Pulling at 1000ft is doable; but, only just. Assuming an average canopy that opens relatively quickly, you'll be under 500ft as your chute finishes inflating. If you have a malfunction, you can't cut away unless you have a SkyHook. So, you would have to pull the reserve, have two out, and hope something inflates in the next couple of seconds. If you had a high speed malfunction, you would have about one second to pull the reserve. Any longer and you won't slow down enough and you will bounce.
@CrimsonBradders Isn't the whole video is talking about air foil and lift? When the skyflyers glide in the air, the fall rate is less than regular sky divers' because the speed is horizontal, not downward. The wingsuit provides the lift all along throughout the dive. So even when the diver jumps at 10000 feet, vertical speed may be less than that of a base jumper. Some other even said the diver can glide upward by flaring the suit. i.e. vertical speed can be zero or even negative.
Vertical speed maybe less of that of a base jumper but what if the base jumper is wearing a wingsuit as well? What I was mainly referring to by "Maybe if it's a base" was the actual rig since base rigs are designed to open a lot quicker. I'm not trying to say its anywhere near impossible, this comment may contradict my previous:P, but I'm just saying I'd be scared poopless just because my chute usually takes about 1000 feet to completely inflate and slow me down to speed.
@CrimsonBradders I guess you should factor in the horizontal speed that helps to inflate the chute. When you pull, the chute serve as an air brake to slow your horizontal speed. What you used to do in 1000 ft vertically is accomplished probably in 800 ft horizontally plus 200 ft vertically.
This is true, makes sense when everything is taken into account. Are you a jumper? I checked out your profile and just saw some little girls. Your kids maybe?
@eliasgerris They were talking about landing without a chute. They worry about the horizontal speed more than the drop because the wings provide the lift which only exists because of air speed over the wings. i.e. they can actually stop the fall, but gliding forward at highspeed during the landing can be hazardous.
@cplai: Why do they not start with an airplane-style landing? Just mount 4 skids or wheels on their bottomside, and perhaps a 1mm thick nylon plate under their belly - just in case. Or maybe just wide skiis on the bottom and land on water or [non-horizontal] snow (ski slope).
If they can fall at 25mph downward while moving 100mph horizontal, I'm guessing they must be moving 120 to 140 mph horizontal to get enough lift to fly horizontally. That is a lot of speed to lose after touchdown.
I think that is called a flare, like when a bird is about to land. A glide quickly turned into a hover for a brief moment when the forward momentum turns upwards against gravity.
4:47 "It's not just falling through the sky" It's falling with style!
Snapbacks4Sale 5 months ago
Flying negro? Forreal?
sirmicro 5 months ago
I really must go with the PF Vampire 4 design
mavica130 6 months ago
Any versions of this w/ better audeo?
niflap 8 months ago
Pulling at 1000ft is doable; but, only just. Assuming an average canopy that opens relatively quickly, you'll be under 500ft as your chute finishes inflating. If you have a malfunction, you can't cut away unless you have a SkyHook. So, you would have to pull the reserve, have two out, and hope something inflates in the next couple of seconds. If you had a high speed malfunction, you would have about one second to pull the reserve. Any longer and you won't slow down enough and you will bounce.
ForrestDix 1 year ago
Skyflyers open at 1000ft! yeah right. Maybe if its a base but other than that I'd be going for my reserve at that altitude.
CrimsonBradders 1 year ago 3
@CrimsonBradders Isn't the whole video is talking about air foil and lift? When the skyflyers glide in the air, the fall rate is less than regular sky divers' because the speed is horizontal, not downward. The wingsuit provides the lift all along throughout the dive. So even when the diver jumps at 10000 feet, vertical speed may be less than that of a base jumper. Some other even said the diver can glide upward by flaring the suit. i.e. vertical speed can be zero or even negative.
cplai 1 year ago
@cplai
Vertical speed maybe less of that of a base jumper but what if the base jumper is wearing a wingsuit as well? What I was mainly referring to by "Maybe if it's a base" was the actual rig since base rigs are designed to open a lot quicker. I'm not trying to say its anywhere near impossible, this comment may contradict my previous:P, but I'm just saying I'd be scared poopless just because my chute usually takes about 1000 feet to completely inflate and slow me down to speed.
CrimsonBradders 1 year ago
@CrimsonBradders I guess you should factor in the horizontal speed that helps to inflate the chute. When you pull, the chute serve as an air brake to slow your horizontal speed. What you used to do in 1000 ft vertically is accomplished probably in 800 ft horizontally plus 200 ft vertically.
cplai 1 year ago
@cplai
This is true, makes sense when everything is taken into account. Are you a jumper? I checked out your profile and just saw some little girls. Your kids maybe?
CrimsonBradders 1 year ago
Skyflyers open at 1000 feet my ass!
eliasgerris 1 year ago 2
@eliasgerris They were talking about landing without a chute. They worry about the horizontal speed more than the drop because the wings provide the lift which only exists because of air speed over the wings. i.e. they can actually stop the fall, but gliding forward at highspeed during the landing can be hazardous.
cplai 1 year ago
@cplai: Why do they not start with an airplane-style landing? Just mount 4 skids or wheels on their bottomside, and perhaps a 1mm thick nylon plate under their belly - just in case. Or maybe just wide skiis on the bottom and land on water or [non-horizontal] snow (ski slope).
If they can fall at 25mph downward while moving 100mph horizontal, I'm guessing they must be moving 120 to 140 mph horizontal to get enough lift to fly horizontally. That is a lot of speed to lose after touchdown.
honestann 10 months ago
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NICKNUTTS 1 year ago
Genus !!...BRAVO !!
Xx256xx1 1 year ago
Excellent clip, but the presenter was a bit of a moron. and some of the comments: "Rocket technology" "faster canopy flight" Hmmmm...
Lay of the weed a bit
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE SUIT
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
its actually true they can stall their bodies ass a result they asend i wouldnt say thousands of feet but a few inches
brotherlybrother11 2 years ago
I think that is called a flare, like when a bird is about to land. A glide quickly turned into a hover for a brief moment when the forward momentum turns upwards against gravity.
cplai 2 years ago
yes flare and stall is the same thing
brotherlybrother11 2 years ago
@brotherlybrother11 Not quite, a flare converts airspeed to lift where as a stall is when you run out of lift and begin to decend faster.
goingtoeatpizza 2 years ago
Going up?? Funny. Wingsuits can't go "up" without power. Only Tony sounds intelligent.
Good for Flock Unirversity. How many more kids will die as a result of Jeff and Taya's bullshit and bad training?
AzerothKing 2 years ago