@moabdah9 The team has to bring on a sub hooker/front row if either the props or the hooker are sin binned and move one of their other players to the bench, usually a back rower who will be replaced at scrum time by (usually) a centre.
Both the top comments are fucking idiots, he got a yellow for tackling the player without the ball, not a dangerous tackle. He did a straight dump, i'm tired of faggots like you who have clearly never played rugby calling every lifted tackle as a spear, he was yellowed for takling off the ball, which was a bad call since he was commited to the tackle
justifiable yellow, but as far as tackling the player without the ball he's already committed to the tackle, ref has know idea! tackle was dangerous though.
If this is a yellow card, how on earth did Warburton get sent off against France? Sam didn't even drive him down, he just dropped him and he landed at an awkward angle.
Harsh, looks like the player lands on top part of his left shoulder.. Doesn't warrant a yellow, penalty at best. Personally I think it has to be more malicious for a card. Also Rees had every right to make the tackle, something happened like this the other day. Kankowski tapped the ball in the air as he was going to catch it he was tackled (without the ball) he had a moan at the ref, ref said 'If he couldn't tackle you, you could have run the length tapping the ball in the air.'
@Goldih no its not what he actually lands on, its how dangerous it is. so if you turn someone upside down but they luckily land on their shoulder its not a yellow? of course not. he turned him upside down and didnt land him carefully, that is a yellow card. 'penalty at best'? more like penalty at least. yes he had ever right to make the tackle but no one has the right to dump someone turn them upside down and not land them carefully.
@0910dc Rules are rules I get that, but when refs whip out their protractor and see a degree over the horizontal, I think its a little pedantic. I don't agree with the rule (unless head contact with ground first), it slows down the game & diminishes the physicality. In this case, controlled or not.. I don't think there was a serious chance of injury (and as the clip shows there wasn't). I'm not trying to argue just discuss.
i thought a spear was if the tackled player was driven with intent into (head first) into the ground. He was dropped more than driven, and if he had caught the ball, it would have been a great tackle. its the attacking player's superb handling that got him into trouble there. yellow maybe a bit harsh, perhaps just a penalty and a word. there was no malicious intentions there.
Yehr it started as a legal tackle and then you saw him thrust his shoulder into the attacker hard in order to flip the player. Definite spear tackle I think
Its not a spear tackle you spaz. one there was only 1 player and 2 he kept hold of yes it was a late tackle but he went for the tackle at the exact time the ball arrive but that player didnt catch it so
harsh yellow? It was about as clear a yellow as you're going to get. Look at Rees' body angle, his left elbow is straight up, definite spear, definite yellow.
11Jwilliams - a spear tackle doesn't need two people you muppet, and the timing of the tackle is irrelevant, a spear is a spear, even if he was still holding the ball it would have been a spear, the fact you think a spear is alright as the player didn't have the ball is moronic.
harsh yellow? It was about as clear a yellow as you're going to get. Look at Rees' body angle, his left elbow is straight up, definite spear, definite yellow.
11Jwilliams - a spear tackle doesn't need two people you muppet, and the timing of the tackle is irrelevant, a spear is a spear, even if he was still holding the ball it would have been a spear, the fact you think a spear is alright as the player didn't have the ball is moronic.
my mate speared me once and it fucking hurt!! landed on my neck. dumps are the way forward, every tackle i do i try and make it a dump haaha. make the first tackles the hardest so they are scared the shit out of you for the rest of the game! thats what i got told which seems pretty fair to me!!
A dump tackle is not illegal of itself but this was bordering on a spear, the tackled player was not driven into the ground but was still dropped on his head which it is the duty of the tackler to prevent. It is a judgement call but a yellow is not overly harsh.
@SoCalRugger I agree that this is be a yellow. I would argue that this was not a proper spear tackle, there was no downward drive involved, just the turning past horizontal. As I understand it a spear, which I know as downward force after turning the player so they are pushed head or shoulder into the ground can be a straight red.
A perfectly justified yellow card. The tackler has a responsibility to bring the tackled player to ground safely. In this case the tackled player had his body taken beyond horizontal, so the head was lower than the rest of his body - apart from his arms which, thankfully due to his moving the ball on, were free to help cushion his fall. Timing of the tackle was fine - it was a simple man and ball situation. Tackler's situation was not helped by the difference in size between the players.
Well how was Rees meant to know he was going to flick the ball in the last second he had already hit him when the ball reached his hands so i'm sure that wasn't a late tackle.
Secondly it couldn't have been a dangerous tackle because the man didn't land on his head and the player was held onto tight as he went down like a sack of shit
very harsh yellow seeing as he must have thought the player would catch the ball rather than flicking it on, and he didnt spear him, he put him down on his back
And putting someone down on their back is not dangerous, you've obviously never played rugby have you?
I think the card was probably because it was deemed to be an off the ball tackle, which is harsh seeing as it must have appeared to rees like the guy was going to catch the ball rather than just flick it on.
shut the fuck up, anyone can make mistakes you ignorant fuck. DUMP tackles aren't illegal douchebag, and spear tackles are on your head/neck. A yellow card is, essentially, at the referees discretion for a borderline tackle like this, and as this tackle wasn't that dangerous just a warning to be a little carefull would in my opinion have suficed.
If the self appointed authority (or "thrush" as he is better known-can't do you any harm but is an iritant) on spear tackles, known on you tube "truekiiwanker" sees this video clip on here be prepared for a months worth of drivel and self justification! You have been warned-beatingponies, disable this video!!!!
Aberdemon1988, a spear tackle is when they are put on their head, and he is. Also, rugger1994, i don't think it was worthy of a red, the spear was accidental, not put out to injure him and when the tackle first started, he was about to recieve the ball so Matthew Rees had every right to make the tackle
Yeah in the end that is a spear tackle, i don't think he meant it to be though. Still, that's great handling from the harlequins player, didn't deserve to be speared for that skill.
Yea i totally agree with you. That wasn't a dump, it was a spear which for the retards out there is illegal. I think it would have been fine if it was just a dump though, because the player did partially have the ball but just slapped it on as the tackle commenced: too late for the tackler to back out
Very rubbish decision. Use the Welsh to set an example, as usual. Coward bullying refereeing. Blatant trips are OK then, or punching the ball out of a defending ruck, or....etc....
Fuck him up smiler boy, fuck the English.
Entybach 2 months ago
That's a red card
IdargosIRL 2 months ago
anyone know what happens at the scrum when the hookers sin binned? i know its uncontested but u cant even bind without a hooker?
moabdah9 2 months ago
@moabdah9 The team has to bring on a sub hooker/front row if either the props or the hooker are sin binned and move one of their other players to the bench, usually a back rower who will be replaced at scrum time by (usually) a centre.
vegatablesouptom 2 months ago
@vegatablesouptom so the sub comes off when the 10 minutes are over?
moabdah9 2 months ago
@moabdah9 Yup. Or they can stay on, obviously depends on the coach.
vegatablesouptom 2 months ago
@vegatablesouptom oh right kk cheers
moabdah9 2 months ago
Both the top comments are fucking idiots, he got a yellow for tackling the player without the ball, not a dangerous tackle. He did a straight dump, i'm tired of faggots like you who have clearly never played rugby calling every lifted tackle as a spear, he was yellowed for takling off the ball, which was a bad call since he was commited to the tackle
Unevaluated 2 months ago
I'm fine with the yellow card for the spear/over 90deg tackle but the ref gave the yellow for tackling the player without the ball which is nonsense
samsunghy 3 months ago
justifiable yellow, but as far as tackling the player without the ball he's already committed to the tackle, ref has know idea! tackle was dangerous though.
goate08 3 months ago
look at how well he read that! he knew the ball was going to him and didn't drift back, just went straight to him. what a tackle!
LoNebLoOdLuSt 3 months ago
so why was warburton's a red?
iluvmusicqwe 3 months ago
@iluvmusicqwe exactly, its horrible inconsistencies in refereeing.
acledmaiden 2 months ago
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If this is a yellow card, how on earth did Warburton get sent off against France? Sam didn't even drive him down, he just dropped him and he landed at an awkward angle.
marcj93lfc1 4 months ago
u are allowed to dump tackle people but you cant put em on there heads or let them go in mid air
milliontinz 5 months ago
Your supposed to drive throughand down not up and dump the guy
Alex35c 10 months ago
No a spear tackle is when u pick the player up and smash their head into the ground like a spear
RYANGRAY192 11 months ago
A spear is a straight tackle to the stomach no driving it's how it get it's name
A dump tackle is when you lift them and brin them down hard to the ground
ninjababy97 11 months ago
Harsh, looks like the player lands on top part of his left shoulder.. Doesn't warrant a yellow, penalty at best. Personally I think it has to be more malicious for a card. Also Rees had every right to make the tackle, something happened like this the other day. Kankowski tapped the ball in the air as he was going to catch it he was tackled (without the ball) he had a moan at the ref, ref said 'If he couldn't tackle you, you could have run the length tapping the ball in the air.'
Goldih 11 months ago
@Goldih no its not what he actually lands on, its how dangerous it is. so if you turn someone upside down but they luckily land on their shoulder its not a yellow? of course not. he turned him upside down and didnt land him carefully, that is a yellow card. 'penalty at best'? more like penalty at least. yes he had ever right to make the tackle but no one has the right to dump someone turn them upside down and not land them carefully.
0910dc 10 months ago
@0910dc Rules are rules I get that, but when refs whip out their protractor and see a degree over the horizontal, I think its a little pedantic. I don't agree with the rule (unless head contact with ground first), it slows down the game & diminishes the physicality. In this case, controlled or not.. I don't think there was a serious chance of injury (and as the clip shows there wasn't). I'm not trying to argue just discuss.
Goldih 9 months ago
@Goldih fair enough, your opinion
0910dc 9 months ago
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@Goldih fair enough, your opinion
0910dc 9 months ago
haha well done Mathew.
aggressivegeek 11 months ago
I think yellow for the unsafe tackle was very deserved! However, tackling the player without the ball? Dumb. It was lost in the tackle!
FireyTouch 1 year ago
Deserved.
Killa8Sergey 1 year ago
realisticly it was the scrum halfs fault for being stupid enough to pass the ball t a marked man xD
walesxscarlets 1 year ago
Harsh yellow he was already commited when he tapped it on
95saints 1 year ago
@95saints the yellow is for turning him on his head, not that he made a tackle
0910dc 10 months ago
Harsh yellow but he was already commited before he played the ball on
95saints 1 year ago
wwaaalleessss
90swil 1 year ago
i thought a spear was if the tackled player was driven with intent into (head first) into the ground. He was dropped more than driven, and if he had caught the ball, it would have been a great tackle. its the attacking player's superb handling that got him into trouble there. yellow maybe a bit harsh, perhaps just a penalty and a word. there was no malicious intentions there.
FlankerDeiniol 1 year ago
Yehr it started as a legal tackle and then you saw him thrust his shoulder into the attacker hard in order to flip the player. Definite spear tackle I think
WEBBZfromPANTERA 1 year ago
Its not a spear tackle you spaz. one there was only 1 player and 2 he kept hold of yes it was a late tackle but he went for the tackle at the exact time the ball arrive but that player didnt catch it so
11JWilliams 1 year ago
spear tackle plain and simple. a dump tackle usually ends with a player landing flat on their back or side, not on their neck and shoulders.
PhilTheDrummist 2 years ago
Well, it was halfway between the back and the shoulders. Harsh yellow seeing as he clearly tried to time it correctly.
MyChemAreTheBest 1 year ago
@MyChemAreTheBest
harsh yellow? It was about as clear a yellow as you're going to get. Look at Rees' body angle, his left elbow is straight up, definite spear, definite yellow.
11Jwilliams - a spear tackle doesn't need two people you muppet, and the timing of the tackle is irrelevant, a spear is a spear, even if he was still holding the ball it would have been a spear, the fact you think a spear is alright as the player didn't have the ball is moronic.
PhilTheDrummist 1 year ago
@MyChemAreTheBest
harsh yellow? It was about as clear a yellow as you're going to get. Look at Rees' body angle, his left elbow is straight up, definite spear, definite yellow.
11Jwilliams - a spear tackle doesn't need two people you muppet, and the timing of the tackle is irrelevant, a spear is a spear, even if he was still holding the ball it would have been a spear, the fact you think a spear is alright as the player didn't have the ball is moronic.
PhilTheDrummist 1 year ago
spear i think that has happened for me .. landed on head = spear :P
brahms909 2 years ago
yeh there is a fine line between spears and dumps... guess its up to the ref to call it :P
Al1enwar3 2 years ago
my mate speared me once and it fucking hurt!! landed on my neck. dumps are the way forward, every tackle i do i try and make it a dump haaha. make the first tackles the hardest so they are scared the shit out of you for the rest of the game! thats what i got told which seems pretty fair to me!!
poacher08 2 years ago
yeah textbook spear i h8 cunts that use deliberate dangerous play stupid fat prick
brasher01 2 years ago
Stupid fat prick who plays for Wales? What level do you play at? Goodbye
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MyChemAreTheBest 1 year ago
nah it wasn't a good tackle it was a spear tackle mate he landed on his head and the tackler didn't go down with him :P
Boomboxmc 2 years ago
stupid touch judge nd stupid ref
harefavourites 2 years ago
actualy there was bothing wrong witht that
that was a great text book tackle
ryandav08 2 years ago
@ryandav08
nearly is but no the guys neck just hit the gorund first
breakingcaveboy 2 years ago
Thats a Fair Tackle, He touches the ball when the player tackles him.
UnitedProviences 2 years ago
Looks like he flashed a big cheesy mile at 00:26
Spuddfluff 2 years ago
Awesome timing and power on that hit :P They hurt alot, i couldn't tell if he landed on his neck or his shoulder
Heftybadgers 2 years ago
A dump tackle is not illegal of itself but this was bordering on a spear, the tackled player was not driven into the ground but was still dropped on his head which it is the duty of the tackler to prevent. It is a judgement call but a yellow is not overly harsh.
senluijr 2 years ago 21
@senluijr uh yes it is, though i do not agree with it, it is a penalty, since this was also a spear, its a yellow.
SoCalRugger 10 months ago
@SoCalRugger I agree that this is be a yellow. I would argue that this was not a proper spear tackle, there was no downward drive involved, just the turning past horizontal. As I understand it a spear, which I know as downward force after turning the player so they are pushed head or shoulder into the ground can be a straight red.
senluijr 9 months ago
the player did have the ball, ref was wrong on that note, but he did dump him on his head...
SoCalRugger 2 years ago
its not illegal if you go to ground with the man... a stupid yellow
boomerblink182 2 years ago
A perfectly justified yellow card. The tackler has a responsibility to bring the tackled player to ground safely. In this case the tackled player had his body taken beyond horizontal, so the head was lower than the rest of his body - apart from his arms which, thankfully due to his moving the ball on, were free to help cushion his fall. Timing of the tackle was fine - it was a simple man and ball situation. Tackler's situation was not helped by the difference in size between the players.
SKID986 2 years ago 10
he was commited its rugby not tiddlywinks
M374EVL 2 years ago
i dont think he had clue that he pasted the ball if you look he already started his tackle when hw flicks it on
adamcoates1994 2 years ago
Well how was Rees meant to know he was going to flick the ball in the last second he had already hit him when the ball reached his hands so i'm sure that wasn't a late tackle.
Secondly it couldn't have been a dangerous tackle because the man didn't land on his head and the player was held onto tight as he went down like a sack of shit
lol
MasterSenji 2 years ago 2
still pretty dangerous
10wongc1 2 years ago
yup
MasterSenji 2 years ago
seen him in mcdonalds yesterday
joelakafuzzy 2 years ago
very harsh yellow seeing as he must have thought the player would catch the ball rather than flicking it on, and he didnt spear him, he put him down on his back
rob12192 2 years ago
VERY HARSH!! it was a blatant card. just because it wasn't intentional doesn't mean it isn't dangerous.
yaz044 2 years ago
er, when did i say anything about international?
And putting someone down on their back is not dangerous, you've obviously never played rugby have you?
I think the card was probably because it was deemed to be an off the ball tackle, which is harsh seeing as it must have appeared to rees like the guy was going to catch the ball rather than just flick it on.
rob12192 2 years ago
I said intentional you nimrod!! and he was DUMPED on his shoulder. learn to read and learn the rules....
yaz044 2 years ago
shut the fuck up, anyone can make mistakes you ignorant fuck. DUMP tackles aren't illegal douchebag, and spear tackles are on your head/neck. A yellow card is, essentially, at the referees discretion for a borderline tackle like this, and as this tackle wasn't that dangerous just a warning to be a little carefull would in my opinion have suficed.
rob12192 2 years ago
If the self appointed authority (or "thrush" as he is better known-can't do you any harm but is an iritant) on spear tackles, known on you tube "truekiiwanker" sees this video clip on here be prepared for a months worth of drivel and self justification! You have been warned-beatingponies, disable this video!!!!
SayWeAreGoingUp 2 years ago
Aberdemon1988, a spear tackle is when they are put on their head, and he is. Also, rugger1994, i don't think it was worthy of a red, the spear was accidental, not put out to injure him and when the tackle first started, he was about to recieve the ball so Matthew Rees had every right to make the tackle
Cmanization 2 years ago
Maybe but players have to be more dissciplined..
rugger1994 2 years ago
i'd call that more a spear, it was also very late, definate yellow possibly red y'know
rugger1994 2 years ago
wasnt very late at all he was tackled exactly the same time as he flicked the ball on. open your eyes.
thyuiooo 2 years ago
good call
j1z2n3r 2 years ago
how can people saythat is a spear tackle!
its clearly a dump. if its was a spear tackle he would be flying in, not lifting the carrier off his feet.
Aberdemon1988 2 years ago
definitely a yellow.
samafia1 2 years ago
this shows how hard the game of rugby is, even tho the guy is gettin dumped/speared, he is still making sure the ball goes to his player. love rugby!
maccy809 2 years ago
dont think it deserved a yellow
matt2k6wales 2 years ago
although i don't think he intended to spear him, the tackle was dangerously close to being one so i don't think it was a harsh yellow.
rob12192 2 years ago
Yeah in the end that is a spear tackle, i don't think he meant it to be though. Still, that's great handling from the harlequins player, didn't deserve to be speared for that skill.
jkiddy1800 3 years ago
Should have been a red card. Spear tackles have been made illegal for a reason.
Dump tackles are fine, awesome in fact, but only a mong would say that that was not a spear tackle.
nimrod379 3 years ago
Yea i totally agree with you. That wasn't a dump, it was a spear which for the retards out there is illegal. I think it would have been fine if it was just a dump though, because the player did partially have the ball but just slapped it on as the tackle commenced: too late for the tackler to back out
CaesarNick777 3 years ago
some peaple call it a spear tackle but i dont
hanniblelector08 3 years ago 3
Shouldnt be a yellow IMO it was a perfectly good tackle. The game is rugby is made for hits like those.
Eircom101 3 years ago
Should have been a red.
That's extraordinarily dangerous.
Diom1982 3 years ago
Very rubbish decision. Use the Welsh to set an example, as usual. Coward bullying refereeing. Blatant trips are OK then, or punching the ball out of a defending ruck, or....etc....
Shithead refereeing.
manyhighhills 3 years ago 2