Disney was behind SOPA so it can take over many major MMO Companies to make profit off of them like Walmart, and Macy took over department stores. This was a process to drive out businesses that owned Wow, Rift, Mincraft and so on
It's always good to hear people wave an argument away with: "but I turned out just fine". Which is not only ridiculous, since no individual represents or can claim to represent everyone, as it simply ignores the logic and facts presented.
Movies take years to make, in these years, many scenes that turn out 10 minutes might have had months of discussion of every little detail. We have to realize it, these movies don't "pop up", there are individuals behind it choosing how to represent things.
This so called documentary is extremely politically biased, its clearly been put together by people with a left leaning mentality
The disney product is aimed at people who subscribe to traditional values, IE: its a conservative outlook on cultural values. This has never been a secret, it is well known long established fact
The Left does not have a monopoly on the values/beliefs children are exposed to as they are growing up, even though the left has always tried to influence childrens minds.
1: A documentary is supposed to "try" to present facts in an objective way, free from political bias, this film did not even attempt to deal with the subject in an objective way.......but lets be HONEST you already knew that.
2: Comparing your average conservative person weather he is american or european, with a religious extremist , is not only offensive, but its obviously not true, and is little more than inflammatory rhetoric.
If I had a child, I would read them princess/fantasy stories instead of having them watch these movies. When my daughter reads princess stories, I want her to picture HERSELF as a princess, not some skinny, white, perfect hair, perfect teeth, perfect everything girl. I want her to think that SHE is beautiful, not Snow White, or Aerial, or Belle. I think that makes more sense than pushing these unrealistic ideals of "beauty" onto our children. :)
this movie makes me sick. people will always find a way to take the pure/beautiful and ruin it. Dark people are represented as evil because dark colors are thought of as being evil. angels are seen as wearing white/light blue, while satanic figures are dark reds/black. not cause of their skin color. most bad guys in these movies are white but that is never mentioned. VERY biased movie. educate your children. dont rely on movies. stop blaming the world for your ignorance and your messed up kids
Disney's corporate greed is DEFINITELY cloaked in the veil of innocence.
Some of these old fables/fairy tales and stories are a part of history and should be studied, not translated and interpreted for entertainment purposes.
Fact: Brainwashing's most effective method is 'repetition'.
Now ask yourself how many times a day do kids watch their "favorite" disney movies?
"If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough the people will believe it."
If we're going to blame The Lion King for something people should know right away that the Lion King was based on Hamlet... so if people are going to use that against Disney, blame Shakespeare. Also, I grew up watching Disney movies and I turned out just fine. I still love them. I can see why it would be a concern and why people are speculating on the subject, but in the end, we should be looking at the positive messages Disney is trying to send, not the negative ones.
@14Burrows94 -- Excellent point! Because (as we all know) Claudius, Polonius, Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern are all black men in Shakespeare's play. Likewise, Horatio and Laertes are Hamlet's goofy sidekicks (one large and fat, the other small and thin) in Shakespeare.
This documentary illogical with biased claims. They want to blame Disney because it's easier to blame a fortune 500 company than take responsibility as a parent. Consumerism is a fact of a fact of a capitailist economy, the 'wrong' messages are from people who read a movie way, way too deep into it, and inaccuracies in a movie actualy cause me to ask, "So what did actually happen?" and I look it up. You want to teach your children good values? SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM, YOU IMBECILES!
Maybe there's just a lack of good parenting these days and people wants to blame everything on something else instead of admitting that parents aren't as stern as they need to be.
Yes, Disney may have these "subliminal messages" in them but shouldn't we as parents be pointing out the good messages in the movies? I know I do with my kids.
people dont understand that these movie were made when sexism against women was okay and that was the norm. also, some one these movies aren't set in present time. and these sexual jokes are for adults for the parents who see the movie with their children.
Disney rocks period....people need to grow up and realize that these movies have good messages in them and are clean for kids, yes most of the "good" characters are white and that the people need saving are woman, oh no whatever will we do (sarcasm)
Disney is a slick manipulation tool. People are so dumbed down they cannot even analyse what is really being communicated, they are naively caught up in the fantasy.
That is in fact a dangerous place to be but the people cannot see it.
Some of the clues are explained in: "The Early Works of Walt Disney." by Lenon Honor
Can be found on LenonHonorFilms . com or here on You Tube
i don't think the writers of disney sits down and talk about subtly inserting racist or sexist messages into their movies. however, there are these messages inherent in the movies and people (not only children) do pick up on these messages subconsiously overtime.
I was once a fan of the Mickey Mouse Club. Now, I want nothing less than its complete dissolution. In this age of infinite wisdom and information this illusion has no place left. It hinders imagination. To dissolve this profit oriented market agenda, I shall devote my utmost time and sincerity. Change is necessary for humanity to evolve.
has anyone noticed that disney promotes racism so much, why dont u ever see an african american, hispanic or asian child/family in a commercial. its always the European american showing the "American Dream"
@cgomez23361 have u seen disney channel lately??? wizards of waverly place is a mexican/white family and they bring in mex culture with quinceneras and cucuy and such...shake it up main costar is african american thats soo raven had raven symone and it broker numerous records and had spin off cory in the house as well
@JARey26 yea i have seen disney channel, and they are barely integrading the different cultures NOW, but check back a few years ago, u didnt see any different culture other than the european-american culture. im glad disney started using their head and commit themselves to become more universal, rather than limit themselves to a superior culture.
@cgomez23361 not true thats so raven was circa 01-02?? african american family show and the proud family as well afican american/latino they even papi who only spoke spanish
DO NOT WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL GET ANNOYED WITH YOURSELF. YOU'LL START TO NOTICE STEREOTYPES OF GENDERS AND SHAMELESS ADVERTISING EVERYWHERE AND WILL THINK THAT IT IS DISNEY THAT HAS INFLUENCED YOUR WHOLE PERSONALITY AND BEHAVIOUR.
DISNEY IS A GOOD COMPANY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR BAD BITS. I'M JUST ADVISING PEOPLE HERE.
@FloppyAndBoppy I wouldn't say Disney is a good company but they aren't evil. This is just a documentary from people that have it so good they had to find something to bitch about
@phoenixhazard IKR? Granted Disney is a "business" and although they do churn out the whores (eg Miley cyrus, Vanessa Hutchins, etc...) Disney (the shows, characters...) does maintain some innocence and suggests plights of real life. People are brainwashed by Faux News and (C)on (N)ews (N)etwork before being BW'ed by Disney.
LISTEN! I LOVE these films! I've watched them ALL my life and have never once been gravely affected. @gueralita, you're right in a way but having had conversation with my parents about it through the years, I have realised that Disney is a mixed set of values.
Ignorance is bliss.. just because you're not aware of something doesn't mean it's not occurring. Just because someone else observes something that you don't doesn't mean they're making it up nor does it mean that its not real or that they have too much time on their hands. The more you know, the less familiar things start to appear until one day, you see things for their true nature; its virtually impossible to understand some else's intentions when you're projecting your own onto their work..
We watched this in my anthropology class. I found it funny how a lot of my classmates were so personally offended at the message. It was only the females.
@squizz222 We watched in my comm. apps. class of course the females would be offended, women in disney are only seen as beatiful flawless objects lack of a better term.
I have to say.. the guy from Penn State really rubbed me the wrong way. Sometimes I think people hurt their own points by the attitude they have when they try to get it across.He was so high on himself and had such an air about him that turned me off that I din't want to hear what he was saying
This pattern in Disney cinema to lionize (and demonize) characters according to skin color is essentially a perpetuation of Western ideals in general. Themes like these come up in Western literature, esp Western European literature, allllllll the time. Almost every classic I've ever read equated evil with darkness and good with lightness. I tend to look at the big picture & find it's just a fundamental flaw with the culture, Disney being only one piece of the puzzle.
I totally agree with the lady at 1:00. Kids are going to watch these movies for entertainment purposes only. I love Disney and I hope that I can become an animator for them someday. People who are saying that Disney is "dangerous" need to just shut up and be quiet.
In "Sward int he Stone" the character Mad Madam Mim was meant to be a parody of film critics loving only themselves and hating the world. Seems not much has changed in almost 50 years.
You people are crazy. Disney movies are classics, and you people obviously don't apreciate that. You people are convinced disney is racist? well you have to be racist yourself to see something in a racist way. I grew up watching disney movies that warmed my heart and lyrics that captivated my soul and am i racist? am i brainwashed? no! i think that haters are just envious of what a great success disney is.
I want to say yeah your right. I grew up with these films and I love them just as much as the next person, but when you have the evidence and facts shown to you and you chose to not even admit yeah it make have a negative influence on kids then I feel sorry for you. What you saw may not have shaped in how you see different races but it did influence the kids that are shown on this film. Please educate yourself more, these moves made a mockery of all races except for white.
I really loved this film. I don't look at Disney movies the same now. What I mean is, I still love them, but I don't read everything portrayed in some of my favorites at face value anymore. However, I don't let that get in the way of the enjoyment I have from watching them.
@aygachu Yeah, I hear ya. I was watching some of it earlier today, as I'm doing my 3rd paper in my writing intensive class on Disney. Later when one lady is cracking on Beauty and the Beast because "he's abusive" and "she still returned to him, she EXCUSED..." and I was like "What the heck??? He learned his lesson, woman!" I still have yet to finish it because it was only available for 2 hour check out and I need to watch this on MY time. So now I have a little time to finish it.
The gender/ethnic/class stereotypes within disney are bad enough. These clearly influence the worldview of children as they develop, hopefully they are exposed to education down the line that helps to challenge such limited perspectives.
What about the bizarre subliminal messages in disney though, seriously.. what is up with that? :/
@ladydondatah disney does not send the wrong message, I grew up with these movies as a kid, and my charateristics and virtues are fine. People seek to ruin good things and find ways to break down people who help so much.
@gueralita THANK YOU! so many people have been posting that it doesnt matter, disney never affected them adversely and they in fact love it, and the video is reading way too far into it and making up shit when it is SO TRUE. the disney formula communicates to young girls/future women--whether they realize it consciously or not--that as women they're helpless, in distress, and can only be happy/saved by a big strong man. the movies always end once they marry the prince, as if nothing else matters
@aaronscrewme obviously that was just A point that i was making and there are many different points one can make on this topic. it's not at all as if my argument was a summation of the film's theses....like i was stating A point, not THE point. maybe you should think about that simple logic before you prematurely reject what i say without even realizing how inane that makes you sound man.
Disney movies practically IS my childhood. Yes, it has influenced me in many ways. but not in bad ways. Every Disney classic movie taught me something new and amazing. Beauty and the Beast -Personality is more important than looks. Cinderella -never lose hope; mulan -work hard, and you'll succeed. ECT. :) Disney movies are a great way for kids to be entertained and learn a valuable lesson. :) I know many pl would disagree, but i for one LOVE Disney classic movies. :) who agreees??????
@ClevverTv24 I know I do! Oh my gosh, I happened to notice this "Satanic Disney" in the related videos and I can't tell you how much that sickens me! I've taken those movies the same way you did. All that about the Beast being abusive, for goodness sake, if he stayed that way he wouldn't have turned human. And "You have your looks, your pretty face..." they need to consider the source already! It's not like King Triton said that. I just watched Snow White and it made me cry... and I'm 37!
Disney has been a staple of my childhood, and it didn't harm me. I just thought of Disney as innocent fun, and like so many people I know, I had wonderful memories of watching the films on videotape with my mother. I will raise my children on Disney movies. I am aware of the questionable material in certain Disney films, but they are above children's heads.
despite all the argumentative theories we have here, you have to admit Disney is a bit too...serious when it comes to making fun of, or even insulting or using their name in vain to protect their industry so badly. But anyway, I had the same keyboard as Dr. Henry xD
and for the record... I don't see why it's so difficult for people to argue maturely on youtube... it seems to be universally impossible. If you want someone to take your point seriously.. don't tell them to "fuck off, and grow a pair."... justify your beliefs and why you believe them so that you actually have something to contribute. I curse, yes, but I just feel like it shows a lack of intelligence when people are dropping f bombs left and right. Talk normally.. it's not that difficult.
Just like anything, influences are going to be presented to our youth, and us. We wake up EVERY day being influenced in some way, shape or form.. To blame disney for the corruption of our youth, is like blaming candy brands for giving our kids cavities.. maybe you should have informed your children that candy will ruin their teeth if consumed in abundance and that brushing their teeth is crucial. It's just ridiculous to me.. do the best you can to be good influential parents, and you're good.
I agree with the ideas behind this... but I just think it's SO dramatic. Like I said in a previous comment, if we want OUR children to grow up being knowledgeable about reality, we as parents are responsible for teaching them that. If your child has been instilled with good morals and logical concepts of reality, disney movies, hollywood, social influences and the like, will NOT affect them in a way that will make them worthless members of society.
@KatieGirl07 - Why reach for the extreme? Has anyone said Disney would produce "worthless members of society"? The concern here is not that Disney will ruin lives but that Disney will help limit lives by limiting modes of thinking.
The Jesuits understood centuries ago the ability to shape children through the power of message: “Give us the child for seven years and we will give you the man.” This simple truth was understood by priests and kings long before the psychology of advertising.
@Sully64ify I appreciate your thoughtful comments by the way... free of profanity and personal attacks. YOU are the kind of youtuber I could debate all day with lol, and who could probably sway my opinions. So thank you.. I really mean that. It's good to know that some maturity still remains in the world
@1lsold: Read a book on logical fallacies. Note especially "strawman." After that check out a dictionary. You don't have much credence talking about "psych" when you can't even spell it correctly.
Here's a better idea. Hop on a plane to Angola and visit an insurgent group. When you see your first 8-year-old carrying his AK-47, you'll get a first-hand education about child soldiers and how children can be molded into EXACTLY what people desire.
Aghhh... the spelling is the common abbreviation for psychology classes like PSYC1101 etc... So you're the straw man I presume in the case? Not so sure what you're getting at buddy but go you.
PS mr. picky... strawman is 2 words... straw *space* man. (since grammar is a measure of wit and intelligence to you)
PSS - Im not sure what kids doing what they have to for survival really has to do with the statement you were trying to make or my response to it.
@1lsold - Yeah ... we're not talking about a course description guide, are we?
PS - More properly: "straw-man," but you misunderstand or have misread. I mentioned neither wit nor intelligence in my reply. You're sensitive on that score?
PPS - I take it you've not seen one of these children interviewed. National Geographic & Frontline have run some excellent stories on the issue. You should examine them.
Aghhh... the spelling is the common abbreviation for psychology classes like PSYC1101 etc... So you're the straw man I presume in the case? Not so sure what you're getting at buddy but go you.
PS mr./ms. picky... strawman is 2 words... straw *space* man. (since grammar is a measure of wit and intelligence to you)
PSS - Im not sure what kids doing what they have to for survival really has to do with the statement you were trying to make or my response to it.
@KatieGirl07 - This simple truth is also seen in folk proverbs. Every parent knows that "little pitchers have big ears," and the implication of that maxim is - like it or not, your influence or not - children WILL pick up on things in their environment and will be shaped by them.
When we understand just how much of the child's media experience is created by the Disney corporation in its various entities, it would be naive to dismiss that influence with "Just do you job as a parent."
@Sully64ify I mean I honestly agree with you... but my argument is to the extremest. The parents that blame britney spears, and movies and the like for their children's shortcomings and misbehavior. It's a cop out to me... if your children are bad, no, it may not entirely lie on the parents.. my brother was a pain growing up and my parents could not have been better lol. I understand what you mean, but I don't appreciate un educated folks blaming disney for their bad parenting skills.
@KatieGirl07 - Oh. Extremist. Yeah I have no time for that nonsense, and frankly they're not worth talking to. The extremist will never listen to reasoned argument. It's part of what makes him an extremist.
I wouldn't want to see anyone blame Disney for all their problems, but I don't think it's too much to ask Disney to consider its media position in the world and respond accordingly. It may cost them a few bucks to produce films that empower women but do it anyway.
i think the mixture of feminine and masculine is beautiful. sure, disney makes their princesses look like barbie dolls (even though they are much more beautiful than barbie dolls) but it's a great relationship between the two genders and it's human nature.
girls can still grow up and want to be politicians or whatever, but using body language can be a tool for success for women, just like having a powerful voice can be an asset for a man. i love being feminine! and i love masculine men!
That one dude is so stupid. Of course Disney wouldn't want you to use their name or likeness, it's call copyright laws, deal with it! How the hell did he become a college professor?
Henry Giroux is a moron. I read his book, it isn't really that great. Yes Disney has all those messages, but it's not like a child is going to understand that. Things such as race are something that a 4-year old isn't going to know unless taught to them. Now that this video is posted on youtube, and he is the one talking about it, whose to say that kids aren't going to search this up especially since it has "DISNEY" in the tags? (no offense to anyone.)
Today I'm an activist for human rights (lgtb rights specifically, which is the SAME), between other things.
I agree that there are those messages in Disney. But that a child grows up watching Disney doesn't have to mean she or he will never be able to get out the box established for her/him.
Deleting the "danger" is not going to solve anything. Providing places where people can learn to have a critical approach for what they see and listen, THAT will.
@twadorno666 jesus... people get so damn defensive on here lol. If I didn't have a functioning brain I wouldn't be breathing right now, so I'm pretty sure I'm good in the brain arena. my argument is.. if parents want to blame disney for the way their children are, it's their own fault they weren't better parents. I've seen plenty of blood and guts movies, horror movies, thrillers etc.. but it doesn't mean I want to go kill people. Raise your kids well, and they will make wise decisions.
Kids pick up on these things, they learn all these gender roles, racial steroypes etc. from an earlier age these attitudes are learned and these disney movie project them on a subtle level but its there.
Yeah it's brings back nice memories but you have to think about it and ask yourself do you want your children picking up those images, if you compare the old cartoons that have blatant racist sterotypes to the ones today very little has changed.
I watched Disney movies as a child but developed a hate for Disney for a reason I couldn't put my finger on when I was in my teenage years. Perhaps now I can because I have always had a distaste for homogenised society, aggressive capitalism and inequality.
Disney is capitalist as most of the rest of the world and people get jealous because it sells more than anything eversince it was built.
This guy isn't interested in children, I bet he doesn't even have children, he's only trying to generate some polemic and show himself because he's afraid of breaking his neck if he hangs a watermelon on it.
Disney is a part of the world, it's just like anything else: money for a little joy.
It can only harm people whose parents haven't raized well
i dont understand why everyone has got to make a HUGE deal of Disney movies. THEY ARE FOR KIDS! And, kids wouldnt even underSTAND some things ppl claim are in them subliminally.
@fivefamly subliminal messages are subliminal. They are called sub liminal for a reason, your not supposed to see it. It's When they go unnoticed and unquestioned, That's when they have the most influence.
Despite the fact that there is no body of empirical support for the notion that subliminal advertising is effective, in 1974 the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued an order saying that broadcast outlets that knowingly carry subliminal ads are operating "contrary to the public interest."
@timsartsite In September 2000, Senators Ron Wyden of Oregon and John Breaux of Louisiana complained to the FCC about a Republican ad that flashed the word ''RATS'' (or "BUREAUCRATS") across the screen for 1/30 of a second. ''We have reason to believe that broadcasters are airing television advertisements that contain subliminal messages in violation of the public interest,'' they said,
@sarasmile131 apparently oblivious to the fact that something which can't be registered by the brain is unlikely to have any effect on viewers and is unlikely to violate anything except the reasonable bounds of credulity. " " someone had to have put it there so there has to be evidence that it exists somewhere and if our brains cannot register any of the subliminal content what good does it have in the first place?
(of a stimulus or mental process) below the threshold of sensation or consciousness; perceived by or affecting someone's mind without their being aware of it."
if you cannot see this "subliminal" message, you wouldn't know there was one. That is when it has the most effect
.Many believe that it is not those who are the writers or the animators cartoonist, however they are to blame along with the corporation, because they are an accessory to the DISNEY CORPORATION. Disney since the beginning of its time has been racist and sexist, by writing about the different cultural stereotypes it causes others to believe that it is okay when in actuality it is NOT. It is imperative that we teach our children right , It is imperative that we not support by not WATCHING.
Define "Disney". Do you mean their animated output, all of their films, or the company in general?
At each of those levels, there are films that aren't strictly for-kids fare. Typically only the worst Disney films are kids-only.
On the other side of the token, I'd imagine there are people who think Studio Ghibli films are for children. There are people who think anything animated is for kids, and that shows I enjoy like "Family Guy" and "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" are perverse exceptions.
....and if you play "Stairway to Heaven" backwards you will hear the subliminal messages too!
Give me a break. It is obvious that Disney films through the years reflect the current social "climate" of the times. What was acceptable and entertaining from one time period has a different effect on people in later eras. That is all. Animators played around with the art and pushed the envelope in every decade, like artists have always done and always will. This is not "the great conspiracy".
I'm sorry you're so fixated on ASSUMING what the person is going to say that you don't understand that they mean exactly what they say. There was no mention in this video of Subliminal messaging, nor did she MEAN subliminal. It called for Sublime. The videos create a false perfect world that kids get sucked into, which is entirely unhealthy. Life has ups and downs, and if you cannot get adjusted to riding that wave, you're never complete "I'll be happy when I buy this..."
@paroxysm1984 Yea, probably. I refuse to watch that shitty video again so I will take your word for it on the correct use of the word sublime. Based on your tone though, I will happily tell you to buzz off. Kids do not get sucked into believing that the world is perfect from Disney movies or the Disney Channel (Hanna Montana, Wizards, etc etc). You sound like you are out of contact with kids. Have you visited an elementary school lately?
Yes, it's the best form of education there is, as far as success and efficiency are concerned... But it's not being used in a good way, nor is it a legitimate way to educate children.
However, and I think you know this, the woman probably meant to say that Disney is a subliminal "kind of education", not a "sublime" one, because she says it's "dangerous" for that reason.
So, in conclusion, if you want to blame Disney for scerwing up your kids don't blame the people who make the animated films. These people are artists who want to make a good movie. Blame the Disney CORPORATION if anyone for bad marketing and really, blame the everyday people who have fallen into the mindset that the CORPORATION has set up: Disney film's are films for kids and only for kids.
And speaking of stereotypes,the people who make films like these see animation as a "kid's genre" which it most certainly is not. As an animator I find THAT offensive.
Disney films are not children's films. They are films that can be enjoyed by people of ANY age but that does not make them children's films. And the Disney CORPORATION (ie, the idiots in charge of marketing etc) is not exactly helping to kill that stereotype with their "Princess" franchises etc.
I've listened to tons of "by-animators-for-animators" interviews (ie, interviews not dumbed down for the people who don't can't animate to save their lives) with the people who crafted these films and they are just normal guys who want to make great movies. They don't sit around saying: "MUHAHAHAHA, how can we indoctrinate our children??" and never did. The old Disney guys never saw the films they were making to be "children's films". They saw them as films.
Part 1: There is no "hidden agenda" behind the Disney films. The people who make them, the directors, the story-artists, the animators, etc. just want to make good movies with entertaining stories.
I think there is a hidden agenda. To contrast for example, Miyasaki in Japan makes amazing anime movies that are devoit of such stereotypes. You can be a creative person and make amazing stuff that's not Disney. Disney is creative in a very limited way.
Don't forget that Disney really makes money off of merchandising and advertising. They have images to sell, every princess will buy her dolls.
Wow...I like how people think that because something "is only for entertainment value" that it therefore cannot possibly due harm. What a well thought out argument!
this guy obviously just wants a bit of attention off of disneys back. im glad it hasnt work. its just storys and films! so what if millions of people like disney stuff, they earnt the world wide appreciation that it has today through decades of hard work.
i understand some of the things this video is talking about but most of the stories such as cinderella and sleeping beauty have been around for hundreds of years and were ballets even before they were fairytales... no one found anything wrong with them then... so why now all of a sudden?
Stereotypes were always around, not the same ones we have but they were there. Jewish people were portrayed as being big noised and greedy with money (this has been around since before WW II), Native Americans were portrayed and being savages as well as the Africans that were brought over to be slaves. In Jesus' times Samaritans were supposed to be rude and not help anyone,that's why Jesus used him in the parable.
Because they are the most renowned for doing this. Subliminal messages and in general manipulating kids. They have hundreds of movies out, That is why people point at disney because the length of time they have been doing it.
Few people who judge disney on here know the life of Walt Disney im telling you now if you knew anything about that man you would not be watching his cartoons.
But you are right there is hundreds of others in the mainstream who do this even though its against the law.
Except that alot of these subliminal messages with few exceptions, are stretches pulled out by often religiously indoctrined parents subconsciously looking for problems in what their children watch.
A big part of a child's manipulation comes when a parent does not parent, and instead rely on the tv and movies.
I know alot about Disney, alot about how painfully perfectionist he was, his distrust of jewish people, and I still enjoy his cartoons.
Subliminal messages are there your telling me that in Rescuers the picture of the woman With her boobs in the window is Indoctrinated religious people being picky?
There's a law against subliminal messaging for a reason but most these corporations work above the law and do what they please.
Agreed its the reliance on TV and Disney etc instead of real parenting that is the issue, but that doesn't mean its not manipulating kids purposely...
And you didn't mention that picture, though it would have more grounds if that picture didn't cause the recall of those videos so that scene could be edited out. Look at current dvds and said picture is absent.
And no, they aren't above the law. Which is why the recall was made in the first place.
I don't know about you but if you go and see a ballet about sleeping beauty its the same story to me. I agree some were changed, I know they were, Pocahontas was only a teenager when John Smith came over and she fell in love with John Radcliff, then they moved to England and she died of small pox (or another disease of such). Not all of the stories have been changed though
You're assuming no one found anything wrong with them. Just because we may not know of any historical movements against fairy tales that doesn't mean that they didn't happen. People could have been complaining about this type of thing for hundreds of years, but we'd only know about it if it was documented and circulated.
there wasn't a problem when they were STORIES. But now they are animations and illustrations, this is why children can be manipulated through subliminals. I have seen an ex editors work at Disney and he was an expert at illustration he done a massive video of where he drew sexual images and tons of them and turned them into cartoons you would never even know the base of the image was for instance a woman with her legs open...that's how it works and it works hence theres a law against it.
Of course that's how it works, it's a step in animation where you build a characters starting point. It's only against the law if the finished product is naked.
I read your post and the only thing I take from this is you trying to mentally undress a animated character in an attempt to find a sexual core. Sit a certain way at home, and anybody can call you obscene just the same. No amount of clothing hides the fact that you are naked underneath.
The reason people are so protective about Disney and Disney films is because for some people these films played very important roles in their childhood, their kids childhoods, etc. And when you attack Disney people feel as though you are attacking them.
@girl12121211 I'm almost 38 years old, and I STILL can't help but agree with you. I'm polishing an essay that's due tomorrow morning, and having just watched Snow White for the first time in several years, Disney STILL brings out the child in me. I don't know about anyone else, but these movies gave me a break from my worries and if the girl in the movie had a happy ending, then I was happy. Some things we never outgrow, including tears when Snow White is awakened by "Love's First Kiss."
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This movie makes me want to buy a ton of Disney stock, followed by a long Walt Disney World vacation, just to see the look on that douche Henry Giroux's face
I still think that parents shouldn't be afraid to show their kids Disney movies. It's a way to bring up issues in a non-threatening way.
I mean, for example, you could show a child The Little Mermaid and then encourage him/her to think about Eric's love for Ariel, and the idea that they didn't really know each other, etc.
These moves are entertaining ways to start potentially important conversations.
yup i was the mistake that ruined my mommies life she got kicked out of her house she couldnt go to college with a baby and she had no munnies she was left by my dad when i was 1 so she had to ake care of me
whta i reacted to as a child when watching hunchback of notre dame was that they had changed frollo from "priest" to "judge" and the priest in the movie was a good character. Why coudnt they keep him a priest as in the original story?
I think it's also important to distinguish Disney the CORPORATION (after Walt Disney's death) from the Disney animated features and the people who make them.
Wtf? Snow White- the first Disney Princess- had dark hair. As did Belle from Beauty and the beast, Ariel from Little Mermaid (redhead), and... well, EVERYONE except Sleeping Beauty + Cinderella.
Two movies.
There've been Arabian leading ladies (Jasmine), Chinese (Mulan), Native American (Pocahontas), Gypsy/Roma (Esmerelda) and the upcoming Princess + the Frog stars an African American girl.
did you know the true pocahontas was 10 years old and was not super thin, and tall with long hair and john smith was 30. She never married him she married some farmer. Disney made her with beautiful eyes with long eyelashes and big boobs & tall n thin....
pocahontas in the movie never marries john smith..in fact in the 2nd movie she marries another english guy with brown or red head i cant remember his name
Disney was behind SOPA so it can take over many major MMO Companies to make profit off of them like Walmart, and Macy took over department stores. This was a process to drive out businesses that owned Wow, Rift, Mincraft and so on
jampact132 11 hours ago
It's always good to hear people wave an argument away with: "but I turned out just fine". Which is not only ridiculous, since no individual represents or can claim to represent everyone, as it simply ignores the logic and facts presented.
Movies take years to make, in these years, many scenes that turn out 10 minutes might have had months of discussion of every little detail. We have to realize it, these movies don't "pop up", there are individuals behind it choosing how to represent things.
x23biggestfan 1 month ago
Well he kinda has a point they're all nice and everything they gave us good memories in our childhood but it does have hidden messages...
TheGisa11 1 month ago
This so called documentary is extremely politically biased, its clearly been put together by people with a left leaning mentality
The disney product is aimed at people who subscribe to traditional values, IE: its a conservative outlook on cultural values. This has never been a secret, it is well known long established fact
The Left does not have a monopoly on the values/beliefs children are exposed to as they are growing up, even though the left has always tried to influence childrens minds.
Roguefox2006 1 month ago
@Roguefox2006 -- Errr ... "so called" documentary? If it's not a documentary, what is it?
I agree with your central point, though. Traditional values should be upheld. Just ask any Islamic religious extremist.
Sully64ify 1 month ago in playlist Mickey Mouse Monopoly (1/5)
@Sully64ify
1: A documentary is supposed to "try" to present facts in an objective way, free from political bias, this film did not even attempt to deal with the subject in an objective way.......but lets be HONEST you already knew that.
2: Comparing your average conservative person weather he is american or european, with a religious extremist , is not only offensive, but its obviously not true, and is little more than inflammatory rhetoric.
Roguefox2006 3 weeks ago
I honestly don't care.
Those movies were always entertaining to me as a child and still are to this day.
They are, after all, just movies for entertainment purposes.
XxxXdeidara69XxxX 1 month ago
If I had a child, I would read them princess/fantasy stories instead of having them watch these movies. When my daughter reads princess stories, I want her to picture HERSELF as a princess, not some skinny, white, perfect hair, perfect teeth, perfect everything girl. I want her to think that SHE is beautiful, not Snow White, or Aerial, or Belle. I think that makes more sense than pushing these unrealistic ideals of "beauty" onto our children. :)
xxxBakeneckoxxx 2 months ago
this movie makes me sick. people will always find a way to take the pure/beautiful and ruin it. Dark people are represented as evil because dark colors are thought of as being evil. angels are seen as wearing white/light blue, while satanic figures are dark reds/black. not cause of their skin color. most bad guys in these movies are white but that is never mentioned. VERY biased movie. educate your children. dont rely on movies. stop blaming the world for your ignorance and your messed up kids
aaaaaaahhhhhify 2 months ago 2
Disney's corporate greed is DEFINITELY cloaked in the veil of innocence.
Some of these old fables/fairy tales and stories are a part of history and should be studied, not translated and interpreted for entertainment purposes.
Fact: Brainwashing's most effective method is 'repetition'.
Now ask yourself how many times a day do kids watch their "favorite" disney movies?
"If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough the people will believe it."
-Joseph Goebbels
vilane421 2 months ago 2
If we're going to blame The Lion King for something people should know right away that the Lion King was based on Hamlet... so if people are going to use that against Disney, blame Shakespeare. Also, I grew up watching Disney movies and I turned out just fine. I still love them. I can see why it would be a concern and why people are speculating on the subject, but in the end, we should be looking at the positive messages Disney is trying to send, not the negative ones.
14Burrows94 2 months ago
@14Burrows94 -- Excellent point! Because (as we all know) Claudius, Polonius, Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern are all black men in Shakespeare's play. Likewise, Horatio and Laertes are Hamlet's goofy sidekicks (one large and fat, the other small and thin) in Shakespeare.
Sully64ify 1 month ago in playlist Mickey Mouse Monopoly (1/5)
This documentary illogical with biased claims. They want to blame Disney because it's easier to blame a fortune 500 company than take responsibility as a parent. Consumerism is a fact of a fact of a capitailist economy, the 'wrong' messages are from people who read a movie way, way too deep into it, and inaccuracies in a movie actualy cause me to ask, "So what did actually happen?" and I look it up. You want to teach your children good values? SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM, YOU IMBECILES!
3brerfox 2 months ago 4
WOWWWW disney is amazing and whoever thinks this is stupid disney is AMAZING NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ThePanicatheDisco 2 months ago
..Yeah because when i was young the first thing i though of was "Oh my god Ariel is disobeying her dad" or "oh my god he is meaning sex"..no..umh..
JuBouton 2 months ago
Maybe there's just a lack of good parenting these days and people wants to blame everything on something else instead of admitting that parents aren't as stern as they need to be.
Yes, Disney may have these "subliminal messages" in them but shouldn't we as parents be pointing out the good messages in the movies? I know I do with my kids.
tangled2713 2 months ago
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nagging people ruin the Disney name because I love watch these movies and if there going to bad mouth it THEY never grew up with Walt Disney
bloodycartoongirl 3 months ago
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bloodycartoongirl 3 months ago
people dont understand that these movie were made when sexism against women was okay and that was the norm. also, some one these movies aren't set in present time. and these sexual jokes are for adults for the parents who see the movie with their children.
justmyluck7782 3 months ago
Disney rocks period....people need to grow up and realize that these movies have good messages in them and are clean for kids, yes most of the "good" characters are white and that the people need saving are woman, oh no whatever will we do (sarcasm)
Illussen101 3 months ago
"Subliminal", not "sublime". Not that I don't agree, but not even understanding the words you use to criticize it doesn't help your position.
ThreeString 3 months ago
i didnt even get the racism when i was younger but i see it
TomaMiAmore1991 4 months ago
Disney is a slick manipulation tool. People are so dumbed down they cannot even analyse what is really being communicated, they are naively caught up in the fantasy.
That is in fact a dangerous place to be but the people cannot see it.
Some of the clues are explained in: "The Early Works of Walt Disney." by Lenon Honor
Can be found on LenonHonorFilms . com or here on You Tube
explorer2101 6 months ago
i don't think the writers of disney sits down and talk about subtly inserting racist or sexist messages into their movies. however, there are these messages inherent in the movies and people (not only children) do pick up on these messages subconsiously overtime.
FoodEraser 6 months ago 21
I was once a fan of the Mickey Mouse Club. Now, I want nothing less than its complete dissolution. In this age of infinite wisdom and information this illusion has no place left. It hinders imagination. To dissolve this profit oriented market agenda, I shall devote my utmost time and sincerity. Change is necessary for humanity to evolve.
shashankgogoi 7 months ago
has anyone noticed that disney promotes racism so much, why dont u ever see an african american, hispanic or asian child/family in a commercial. its always the European american showing the "American Dream"
cgomez23361 7 months ago
@cgomez23361 have u seen disney channel lately??? wizards of waverly place is a mexican/white family and they bring in mex culture with quinceneras and cucuy and such...shake it up main costar is african american thats soo raven had raven symone and it broker numerous records and had spin off cory in the house as well
JARey26 6 months ago
@JARey26 yea i have seen disney channel, and they are barely integrading the different cultures NOW, but check back a few years ago, u didnt see any different culture other than the european-american culture. im glad disney started using their head and commit themselves to become more universal, rather than limit themselves to a superior culture.
cgomez23361 6 months ago
@cgomez23361 not true thats so raven was circa 01-02?? african american family show and the proud family as well afican american/latino they even papi who only spoke spanish
JARey26 5 months ago
DO NOT WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL GET ANNOYED WITH YOURSELF. YOU'LL START TO NOTICE STEREOTYPES OF GENDERS AND SHAMELESS ADVERTISING EVERYWHERE AND WILL THINK THAT IT IS DISNEY THAT HAS INFLUENCED YOUR WHOLE PERSONALITY AND BEHAVIOUR.
DISNEY IS A GOOD COMPANY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR BAD BITS. I'M JUST ADVISING PEOPLE HERE.
FloppyAndBoppy 8 months ago
@FloppyAndBoppy I wouldn't say Disney is a good company but they aren't evil. This is just a documentary from people that have it so good they had to find something to bitch about
phoenixhazard 8 months ago
@phoenixhazard IKR? Granted Disney is a "business" and although they do churn out the whores (eg Miley cyrus, Vanessa Hutchins, etc...) Disney (the shows, characters...) does maintain some innocence and suggests plights of real life. People are brainwashed by Faux News and (C)on (N)ews (N)etwork before being BW'ed by Disney.
j2201987 7 months ago
i get what theyre saying . . . but i still like disney lol i most've been brainwashed real good eh? :p
xffokcufxXx 9 months ago
I think a lot of people here are missing the point of the documentary...
ThisOneRocks 10 months ago
LISTEN! I LOVE these films! I've watched them ALL my life and have never once been gravely affected. @gueralita, you're right in a way but having had conversation with my parents about it through the years, I have realised that Disney is a mixed set of values.
mrspottypotterfan 10 months ago
Ignorance is bliss.. just because you're not aware of something doesn't mean it's not occurring. Just because someone else observes something that you don't doesn't mean they're making it up nor does it mean that its not real or that they have too much time on their hands. The more you know, the less familiar things start to appear until one day, you see things for their true nature; its virtually impossible to understand some else's intentions when you're projecting your own onto their work..
JaDeTw33ty92 10 months ago
We watched this in my anthropology class. I found it funny how a lot of my classmates were so personally offended at the message. It was only the females.
squizz222 11 months ago
@squizz222 We watched in my comm. apps. class of course the females would be offended, women in disney are only seen as beatiful flawless objects lack of a better term.
undead50 9 months ago
I have to say.. the guy from Penn State really rubbed me the wrong way. Sometimes I think people hurt their own points by the attitude they have when they try to get it across.He was so high on himself and had such an air about him that turned me off that I din't want to hear what he was saying
sitoritenshi 11 months ago 3
@sitoritenshi
What do you mean? He was arguing his point. Just because he knows what he is talking about it doesn't mean heis somehow full of himself.
ThisOneRocks 10 months ago
This pattern in Disney cinema to lionize (and demonize) characters according to skin color is essentially a perpetuation of Western ideals in general. Themes like these come up in Western literature, esp Western European literature, allllllll the time. Almost every classic I've ever read equated evil with darkness and good with lightness. I tend to look at the big picture & find it's just a fundamental flaw with the culture, Disney being only one piece of the puzzle.
Neat documentary!
cukistcrispeque 11 months ago
Is that Simon Cowell @ 5:57
holyzoo77 11 months ago
ive been lookin for this DOC :) yay.
....quality could b a little better...
BadBoo22 11 months ago
Professor Ortiz sent me here!
camas42 1 year ago
Can't believe the backlash this video is getting, I love Disney movies as much as the next guy but it is what it is and what it is is interesting.
drunkdonutboy 1 year ago
I totally agree with the lady at 1:00. Kids are going to watch these movies for entertainment purposes only. I love Disney and I hope that I can become an animator for them someday. People who are saying that Disney is "dangerous" need to just shut up and be quiet.
suicunewolf 1 year ago
In "Sward int he Stone" the character Mad Madam Mim was meant to be a parody of film critics loving only themselves and hating the world. Seems not much has changed in almost 50 years.
Knoss 1 year ago
You people are crazy. Disney movies are classics, and you people obviously don't apreciate that. You people are convinced disney is racist? well you have to be racist yourself to see something in a racist way. I grew up watching disney movies that warmed my heart and lyrics that captivated my soul and am i racist? am i brainwashed? no! i think that haters are just envious of what a great success disney is.
amazingchocolatechip 1 year ago
I want to say yeah your right. I grew up with these films and I love them just as much as the next person, but when you have the evidence and facts shown to you and you chose to not even admit yeah it make have a negative influence on kids then I feel sorry for you. What you saw may not have shaped in how you see different races but it did influence the kids that are shown on this film. Please educate yourself more, these moves made a mockery of all races except for white.
cece255 1 year ago
@amazingchocolatechip AMEN!!
TheTovestar 11 months ago 2
That guy is a Disney version of a YouTube hater
wiidude553 1 year ago
Disney was a jew what do you expect honesty?
Amocee 1 year ago
I really loved this film. I don't look at Disney movies the same now. What I mean is, I still love them, but I don't read everything portrayed in some of my favorites at face value anymore. However, I don't let that get in the way of the enjoyment I have from watching them.
sundaygirl1000 1 year ago
listen to all you "deep thinkers." SHUT THE FUCK UP
nmnj04 1 year ago
@nmnj04 - Why so serious? It's just a film. Surely it can't be THAT threatening ... can it?
Sully64ify 1 year ago
there are two things that these people forgot: parenting and education.
aygachu 1 year ago
@aygachu Yeah, I hear ya. I was watching some of it earlier today, as I'm doing my 3rd paper in my writing intensive class on Disney. Later when one lady is cracking on Beauty and the Beast because "he's abusive" and "she still returned to him, she EXCUSED..." and I was like "What the heck??? He learned his lesson, woman!" I still have yet to finish it because it was only available for 2 hour check out and I need to watch this on MY time. So now I have a little time to finish it.
Bluepacific07 1 year ago
The gender/ethnic/class stereotypes within disney are bad enough. These clearly influence the worldview of children as they develop, hopefully they are exposed to education down the line that helps to challenge such limited perspectives.
What about the bizarre subliminal messages in disney though, seriously.. what is up with that? :/
maiynnai 1 year ago
Disney is so evil, you gaiz. ;_;
Just like all corporations, right?
*goes to watch The Little Mermaid*
IvyPane 1 year ago
Disney sends the wrong message period...No justifications, consciously, the children dont get it, but the sub-conscious does!!
ladydondatah 1 year ago 25
@ladydondatah disney does not send the wrong message, I grew up with these movies as a kid, and my charateristics and virtues are fine. People seek to ruin good things and find ways to break down people who help so much.
esot3ric54 3 months ago
@gueralita THANK YOU! so many people have been posting that it doesnt matter, disney never affected them adversely and they in fact love it, and the video is reading way too far into it and making up shit when it is SO TRUE. the disney formula communicates to young girls/future women--whether they realize it consciously or not--that as women they're helpless, in distress, and can only be happy/saved by a big strong man. the movies always end once they marry the prince, as if nothing else matters
gonameaspoon 1 year ago
@gonameaspoon Your conclusion sucks. It's more than that! You go on some feminist tirade... when you've missed the bigger, more complex picture.
aaronscrewme 10 months ago
@aaronscrewme obviously that was just A point that i was making and there are many different points one can make on this topic. it's not at all as if my argument was a summation of the film's theses....like i was stating A point, not THE point. maybe you should think about that simple logic before you prematurely reject what i say without even realizing how inane that makes you sound man.
gonameaspoon 10 months ago
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@gonameaspoon Good reply but the last sentence doesn't make sense. "my argument was NOT a summation." "prematurely reject what i say." Duh?
aaronscrewme 10 months ago
Disney movies practically IS my childhood. Yes, it has influenced me in many ways. but not in bad ways. Every Disney classic movie taught me something new and amazing. Beauty and the Beast -Personality is more important than looks. Cinderella -never lose hope; mulan -work hard, and you'll succeed. ECT. :) Disney movies are a great way for kids to be entertained and learn a valuable lesson. :) I know many pl would disagree, but i for one LOVE Disney classic movies. :) who agreees??????
ClevverTv24 1 year ago
@ClevverTv24 I know I do! Oh my gosh, I happened to notice this "Satanic Disney" in the related videos and I can't tell you how much that sickens me! I've taken those movies the same way you did. All that about the Beast being abusive, for goodness sake, if he stayed that way he wouldn't have turned human. And "You have your looks, your pretty face..." they need to consider the source already! It's not like King Triton said that. I just watched Snow White and it made me cry... and I'm 37!
Lavenderrose73 1 year ago
Disney has been a staple of my childhood, and it didn't harm me. I just thought of Disney as innocent fun, and like so many people I know, I had wonderful memories of watching the films on videotape with my mother. I will raise my children on Disney movies. I am aware of the questionable material in certain Disney films, but they are above children's heads.
31operafan 1 year ago
despite all the argumentative theories we have here, you have to admit Disney is a bit too...serious when it comes to making fun of, or even insulting or using their name in vain to protect their industry so badly. But anyway, I had the same keyboard as Dr. Henry xD
genjikaka 1 year ago
family guy used disney images! FAMILY GUY > ALL DISNEY!
JiGSaW918 1 year ago
and for the record... I don't see why it's so difficult for people to argue maturely on youtube... it seems to be universally impossible. If you want someone to take your point seriously.. don't tell them to "fuck off, and grow a pair."... justify your beliefs and why you believe them so that you actually have something to contribute. I curse, yes, but I just feel like it shows a lack of intelligence when people are dropping f bombs left and right. Talk normally.. it's not that difficult.
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
Just like anything, influences are going to be presented to our youth, and us. We wake up EVERY day being influenced in some way, shape or form.. To blame disney for the corruption of our youth, is like blaming candy brands for giving our kids cavities.. maybe you should have informed your children that candy will ruin their teeth if consumed in abundance and that brushing their teeth is crucial. It's just ridiculous to me.. do the best you can to be good influential parents, and you're good.
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
I agree with the ideas behind this... but I just think it's SO dramatic. Like I said in a previous comment, if we want OUR children to grow up being knowledgeable about reality, we as parents are responsible for teaching them that. If your child has been instilled with good morals and logical concepts of reality, disney movies, hollywood, social influences and the like, will NOT affect them in a way that will make them worthless members of society.
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07 - Why reach for the extreme? Has anyone said Disney would produce "worthless members of society"? The concern here is not that Disney will ruin lives but that Disney will help limit lives by limiting modes of thinking.
The Jesuits understood centuries ago the ability to shape children through the power of message: “Give us the child for seven years and we will give you the man.” This simple truth was understood by priests and kings long before the psychology of advertising.
Sully64ify 1 year ago
@Sully64ify I appreciate your thoughtful comments by the way... free of profanity and personal attacks. YOU are the kind of youtuber I could debate all day with lol, and who could probably sway my opinions. So thank you.. I really mean that. It's good to know that some maturity still remains in the world
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
@Sully64ify
This is not true... you cannot mold children into what you desire. read a psyc book
1lsold 1 year ago
@1lsold: Read a book on logical fallacies. Note especially "strawman." After that check out a dictionary. You don't have much credence talking about "psych" when you can't even spell it correctly.
Here's a better idea. Hop on a plane to Angola and visit an insurgent group. When you see your first 8-year-old carrying his AK-47, you'll get a first-hand education about child soldiers and how children can be molded into EXACTLY what people desire.
Sully64ify 1 year ago
@Sully64ify
Aghhh... the spelling is the common abbreviation for psychology classes like PSYC1101 etc... So you're the straw man I presume in the case? Not so sure what you're getting at buddy but go you.
PS mr. picky... strawman is 2 words... straw *space* man. (since grammar is a measure of wit and intelligence to you)
PSS - Im not sure what kids doing what they have to for survival really has to do with the statement you were trying to make or my response to it.
1lsold 1 year ago
@1lsold - Yeah ... we're not talking about a course description guide, are we?
PS - More properly: "straw-man," but you misunderstand or have misread. I mentioned neither wit nor intelligence in my reply. You're sensitive on that score?
PPS - I take it you've not seen one of these children interviewed. National Geographic & Frontline have run some excellent stories on the issue. You should examine them.
Sully64ify 1 year ago
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@Sully64ify
Aghhh... the spelling is the common abbreviation for psychology classes like PSYC1101 etc... So you're the straw man I presume in the case? Not so sure what you're getting at buddy but go you.
PS mr./ms. picky... strawman is 2 words... straw *space* man. (since grammar is a measure of wit and intelligence to you)
PSS - Im not sure what kids doing what they have to for survival really has to do with the statement you were trying to make or my response to it.
1lsold 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07 - This simple truth is also seen in folk proverbs. Every parent knows that "little pitchers have big ears," and the implication of that maxim is - like it or not, your influence or not - children WILL pick up on things in their environment and will be shaped by them.
When we understand just how much of the child's media experience is created by the Disney corporation in its various entities, it would be naive to dismiss that influence with "Just do you job as a parent."
Sully64ify 1 year ago
@Sully64ify I mean I honestly agree with you... but my argument is to the extremest. The parents that blame britney spears, and movies and the like for their children's shortcomings and misbehavior. It's a cop out to me... if your children are bad, no, it may not entirely lie on the parents.. my brother was a pain growing up and my parents could not have been better lol. I understand what you mean, but I don't appreciate un educated folks blaming disney for their bad parenting skills.
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07 *extremists
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07
funny how extremists are the only ones who ever change anything...
1lsold 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07 - Oh. Extremist. Yeah I have no time for that nonsense, and frankly they're not worth talking to. The extremist will never listen to reasoned argument. It's part of what makes him an extremist.
I wouldn't want to see anyone blame Disney for all their problems, but I don't think it's too much to ask Disney to consider its media position in the world and respond accordingly. It may cost them a few bucks to produce films that empower women but do it anyway.
Sully64ify 1 year ago
sweet. i was looking all over for this. thanks for posting
WonderWomanFan4life 1 year ago
i think the mixture of feminine and masculine is beautiful. sure, disney makes their princesses look like barbie dolls (even though they are much more beautiful than barbie dolls) but it's a great relationship between the two genders and it's human nature.
girls can still grow up and want to be politicians or whatever, but using body language can be a tool for success for women, just like having a powerful voice can be an asset for a man. i love being feminine! and i love masculine men!
48073419900127 1 year ago
That one dude is so stupid. Of course Disney wouldn't want you to use their name or likeness, it's call copyright laws, deal with it! How the hell did he become a college professor?
BigDogJang0 1 year ago
fuck the liberals who made this documentary. There just movies get a life stop searching for something to bitch about.
ak34809723 1 year ago
Henry Giroux is a moron. I read his book, it isn't really that great. Yes Disney has all those messages, but it's not like a child is going to understand that. Things such as race are something that a 4-year old isn't going to know unless taught to them. Now that this video is posted on youtube, and he is the one talking about it, whose to say that kids aren't going to search this up especially since it has "DISNEY" in the tags? (no offense to anyone.)
Death9215 1 year ago
I grew up with disney films and series.
Today I'm an activist for human rights (lgtb rights specifically, which is the SAME), between other things.
I agree that there are those messages in Disney. But that a child grows up watching Disney doesn't have to mean she or he will never be able to get out the box established for her/him.
Deleting the "danger" is not going to solve anything. Providing places where people can learn to have a critical approach for what they see and listen, THAT will.
Skailish 1 year ago
two words: MAGIC. KILLERS.
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07 There was no magic affiliated with Disney movies at all. Just thinly veiled mental/emotional manipulation of vulnerable children.
twadorno666 1 year ago
@twadorno666 sounds like something a magic killer would say ;)
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
@KatieGirl07 or someone with a brain who knows what real magic is ;)
twadorno666 1 year ago
@twadorno666 jesus... people get so damn defensive on here lol. If I didn't have a functioning brain I wouldn't be breathing right now, so I'm pretty sure I'm good in the brain arena. my argument is.. if parents want to blame disney for the way their children are, it's their own fault they weren't better parents. I've seen plenty of blood and guts movies, horror movies, thrillers etc.. but it doesn't mean I want to go kill people. Raise your kids well, and they will make wise decisions.
KatieGirl07 1 year ago
Kids pick up on these things, they learn all these gender roles, racial steroypes etc. from an earlier age these attitudes are learned and these disney movie project them on a subtle level but its there.
Yeah it's brings back nice memories but you have to think about it and ask yourself do you want your children picking up those images, if you compare the old cartoons that have blatant racist sterotypes to the ones today very little has changed.
MizzDiamonds 1 year ago 3
The girl at 4:05 was obviously influenced by Disney at a young age. Her make up is spot on for Ursula from the Little Mermaid.
hlm23 1 year ago
I watched Disney movies as a child but developed a hate for Disney for a reason I couldn't put my finger on when I was in my teenage years. Perhaps now I can because I have always had a distaste for homogenised society, aggressive capitalism and inequality.
09Meru 1 year ago
Disney is capitalist as most of the rest of the world and people get jealous because it sells more than anything eversince it was built.
This guy isn't interested in children, I bet he doesn't even have children, he's only trying to generate some polemic and show himself because he's afraid of breaking his neck if he hangs a watermelon on it.
Disney is a part of the world, it's just like anything else: money for a little joy.
It can only harm people whose parents haven't raized well
Lunaisabelle 1 year ago
Wonderful, I am so glad that there are people who are willing to talk about this.
walkcordatus 1 year ago
i dont understand why everyone has got to make a HUGE deal of Disney movies. THEY ARE FOR KIDS! And, kids wouldnt even underSTAND some things ppl claim are in them subliminally.
fivefamly 1 year ago
@fivefamly subliminal messages are subliminal. They are called sub liminal for a reason, your not supposed to see it. It's When they go unnoticed and unquestioned, That's when they have the most influence.
timsartsite 1 year ago
@timsartsite so if you cannot see this "subliminal" message how do you know there is one?
sarasmile131 1 year ago
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timsartsite 1 year ago
Despite the fact that there is no body of empirical support for the notion that subliminal advertising is effective, in 1974 the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued an order saying that broadcast outlets that knowingly carry subliminal ads are operating "contrary to the public interest."
sarasmile131 1 year ago
@timsartsite In September 2000, Senators Ron Wyden of Oregon and John Breaux of Louisiana complained to the FCC about a Republican ad that flashed the word ''RATS'' (or "BUREAUCRATS") across the screen for 1/30 of a second. ''We have reason to believe that broadcasters are airing television advertisements that contain subliminal messages in violation of the public interest,'' they said,
sarasmile131 1 year ago
@sarasmile131 apparently oblivious to the fact that something which can't be registered by the brain is unlikely to have any effect on viewers and is unlikely to violate anything except the reasonable bounds of credulity. " " someone had to have put it there so there has to be evidence that it exists somewhere and if our brains cannot register any of the subliminal content what good does it have in the first place?
sarasmile131 1 year ago
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sarasmile131 1 year ago
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@sarasmile131 "subliminal |səˈblimənl|
adjective Psychology
(of a stimulus or mental process) below the threshold of sensation or consciousness; perceived by or affecting someone's mind without their being aware of it."
if you cannot see this "subliminal" message, you wouldn't know there was one. That is when it has the most effect
timsartsite 1 year ago
.Many believe that it is not those who are the writers or the animators cartoonist, however they are to blame along with the corporation, because they are an accessory to the DISNEY CORPORATION. Disney since the beginning of its time has been racist and sexist, by writing about the different cultural stereotypes it causes others to believe that it is okay when in actuality it is NOT. It is imperative that we teach our children right , It is imperative that we not support by not WATCHING.
montanez413 1 year ago
I meant Disney in general.
Sounds like you are familiar with Disney.
Could you recommend some Disney movies enjoyable for adults as well?
Anybody knows that every single person has his or her own opinion toward the two.
Could you give me your opinion if you don't mind?
mk880704 1 year ago
Disney is for children.
Ghibli is enjoyable for anyone.
Any opposition?
mk880704 1 year ago
Define "Disney". Do you mean their animated output, all of their films, or the company in general?
At each of those levels, there are films that aren't strictly for-kids fare. Typically only the worst Disney films are kids-only.
On the other side of the token, I'd imagine there are people who think Studio Ghibli films are for children. There are people who think anything animated is for kids, and that shows I enjoy like "Family Guy" and "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" are perverse exceptions.
GarudaStudio 1 year ago
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mk880704 1 year ago
....and if you play "Stairway to Heaven" backwards you will hear the subliminal messages too!
Give me a break. It is obvious that Disney films through the years reflect the current social "climate" of the times. What was acceptable and entertaining from one time period has a different effect on people in later eras. That is all. Animators played around with the art and pushed the envelope in every decade, like artists have always done and always will. This is not "the great conspiracy".
7tnorris 1 year ago
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7tnorris 1 year ago
@7tnorris
I'm sorry you're so fixated on ASSUMING what the person is going to say that you don't understand that they mean exactly what they say. There was no mention in this video of Subliminal messaging, nor did she MEAN subliminal. It called for Sublime. The videos create a false perfect world that kids get sucked into, which is entirely unhealthy. Life has ups and downs, and if you cannot get adjusted to riding that wave, you're never complete "I'll be happy when I buy this..."
paroxysm1984 1 year ago
@paroxysm1984 Yea, probably. I refuse to watch that shitty video again so I will take your word for it on the correct use of the word sublime. Based on your tone though, I will happily tell you to buzz off. Kids do not get sucked into believing that the world is perfect from Disney movies or the Disney Channel (Hanna Montana, Wizards, etc etc). You sound like you are out of contact with kids. Have you visited an elementary school lately?
7tnorris 1 year ago
"disney is dangerous because it's a sublime kind of education"
sublime means " of outstanding spiritual, intellectual, or moral worth "
so in conclusion, this documentary says disney is awesome!
theZodiacDigital 1 year ago
Yes, it's the best form of education there is, as far as success and efficiency are concerned... But it's not being used in a good way, nor is it a legitimate way to educate children.
However, and I think you know this, the woman probably meant to say that Disney is a subliminal "kind of education", not a "sublime" one, because she says it's "dangerous" for that reason.
Peace.
SamiKunfentu 1 year ago
Part 4:
So, in conclusion, if you want to blame Disney for scerwing up your kids don't blame the people who make the animated films. These people are artists who want to make a good movie. Blame the Disney CORPORATION if anyone for bad marketing and really, blame the everyday people who have fallen into the mindset that the CORPORATION has set up: Disney film's are films for kids and only for kids.
hiyaanimation 1 year ago 2
Part 3:
And speaking of stereotypes,the people who make films like these see animation as a "kid's genre" which it most certainly is not. As an animator I find THAT offensive.
Disney films are not children's films. They are films that can be enjoyed by people of ANY age but that does not make them children's films. And the Disney CORPORATION (ie, the idiots in charge of marketing etc) is not exactly helping to kill that stereotype with their "Princess" franchises etc.
hiyaanimation 1 year ago 3
Part 2:
I've listened to tons of "by-animators-for-animators" interviews (ie, interviews not dumbed down for the people who don't can't animate to save their lives) with the people who crafted these films and they are just normal guys who want to make great movies. They don't sit around saying: "MUHAHAHAHA, how can we indoctrinate our children??" and never did. The old Disney guys never saw the films they were making to be "children's films". They saw them as films.
hiyaanimation 1 year ago 3
Part 1: There is no "hidden agenda" behind the Disney films. The people who make them, the directors, the story-artists, the animators, etc. just want to make good movies with entertaining stories.
hiyaanimation 1 year ago 3
I think there is a hidden agenda. To contrast for example, Miyasaki in Japan makes amazing anime movies that are devoit of such stereotypes. You can be a creative person and make amazing stuff that's not Disney. Disney is creative in a very limited way.
Don't forget that Disney really makes money off of merchandising and advertising. They have images to sell, every princess will buy her dolls.
Renegen1 1 year ago
Disney is my drug don't take it away please...
oddsource 1 year ago
Wow...I like how people think that because something "is only for entertainment value" that it therefore cannot possibly due harm. What a well thought out argument!
bday121 1 year ago
Disney is a poor mans Studio Ghibli
doctorHOUSE 2 years ago
Disney does stereotype in some of the movies they have produced...LMAO like that race car movie..omg it was tooooo funny
lmalachi108 2 years ago
this guy obviously just wants a bit of attention off of disneys back. im glad it hasnt work. its just storys and films! so what if millions of people like disney stuff, they earnt the world wide appreciation that it has today through decades of hard work.
sorceeeey90 2 years ago
Honestly? Really?
NecroNetica 1 year ago
i understand some of the things this video is talking about but most of the stories such as cinderella and sleeping beauty have been around for hundreds of years and were ballets even before they were fairytales... no one found anything wrong with them then... so why now all of a sudden?
sarasmile131 2 years ago 4
@sarasmile131 Because "hundreds of years ago" femminism and common stereotypes were nonexistant
lolmuffins123 2 years ago 4
@lolmuffins123
Stereotypes were always around, not the same ones we have but they were there. Jewish people were portrayed as being big noised and greedy with money (this has been around since before WW II), Native Americans were portrayed and being savages as well as the Africans that were brought over to be slaves. In Jesus' times Samaritans were supposed to be rude and not help anyone,that's why Jesus used him in the parable.
sarasmile131 1 year ago
@sarasmile131
people have been doing this for years...everyone decides to point the finger at disney for some reason
MissAlainey1991 1 year ago
Because they are the most renowned for doing this. Subliminal messages and in general manipulating kids. They have hundreds of movies out, That is why people point at disney because the length of time they have been doing it.
Few people who judge disney on here know the life of Walt Disney im telling you now if you knew anything about that man you would not be watching his cartoons.
But you are right there is hundreds of others in the mainstream who do this even though its against the law.
SHAOLINSINZ 1 year ago
Except that alot of these subliminal messages with few exceptions, are stretches pulled out by often religiously indoctrined parents subconsciously looking for problems in what their children watch.
A big part of a child's manipulation comes when a parent does not parent, and instead rely on the tv and movies.
I know alot about Disney, alot about how painfully perfectionist he was, his distrust of jewish people, and I still enjoy his cartoons.
SmashBroDx 1 year ago
nope your wrong.
Subliminal messages are there your telling me that in Rescuers the picture of the woman With her boobs in the window is Indoctrinated religious people being picky?
There's a law against subliminal messaging for a reason but most these corporations work above the law and do what they please.
Agreed its the reliance on TV and Disney etc instead of real parenting that is the issue, but that doesn't mean its not manipulating kids purposely...
SHAOLINSINZ 1 year ago
No, I'm right.
And you didn't mention that picture, though it would have more grounds if that picture didn't cause the recall of those videos so that scene could be edited out. Look at current dvds and said picture is absent.
And no, they aren't above the law. Which is why the recall was made in the first place.
SmashBroDx 1 year ago
Because the stories weren't the same before Disney got a hold of them. Disney's movies are not the same as the original stories.
cemoddle 1 year ago 4
@cemoddle
I don't know about you but if you go and see a ballet about sleeping beauty its the same story to me. I agree some were changed, I know they were, Pocahontas was only a teenager when John Smith came over and she fell in love with John Radcliff, then they moved to England and she died of small pox (or another disease of such). Not all of the stories have been changed though
sarasmile131 1 year ago
You're assuming no one found anything wrong with them. Just because we may not know of any historical movements against fairy tales that doesn't mean that they didn't happen. People could have been complaining about this type of thing for hundreds of years, but we'd only know about it if it was documented and circulated.
bday121 1 year ago
there wasn't a problem when they were STORIES. But now they are animations and illustrations, this is why children can be manipulated through subliminals. I have seen an ex editors work at Disney and he was an expert at illustration he done a massive video of where he drew sexual images and tons of them and turned them into cartoons you would never even know the base of the image was for instance a woman with her legs open...that's how it works and it works hence theres a law against it.
SHAOLINSINZ 1 year ago
Of course that's how it works, it's a step in animation where you build a characters starting point. It's only against the law if the finished product is naked.
I read your post and the only thing I take from this is you trying to mentally undress a animated character in an attempt to find a sexual core. Sit a certain way at home, and anybody can call you obscene just the same. No amount of clothing hides the fact that you are naked underneath.
SmashBroDx 1 year ago
Until someone comes up with an equally alluring alternative, criticism of Disney will never have any great impact.
ral1334 2 years ago
Gainax has some cool stuff.
Knoss 2 years ago
The reason people are so protective about Disney and Disney films is because for some people these films played very important roles in their childhood, their kids childhoods, etc. And when you attack Disney people feel as though you are attacking them.
girl12121211 2 years ago 24
@girl12121211 thats one thing that makes disney so dangerous
JesterPoetryArtVlogs 1 year ago
@girl12121211 I'm almost 38 years old, and I STILL can't help but agree with you. I'm polishing an essay that's due tomorrow morning, and having just watched Snow White for the first time in several years, Disney STILL brings out the child in me. I don't know about anyone else, but these movies gave me a break from my worries and if the girl in the movie had a happy ending, then I was happy. Some things we never outgrow, including tears when Snow White is awakened by "Love's First Kiss."
Lavenderrose73 1 year ago
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This movie makes me want to buy a ton of Disney stock, followed by a long Walt Disney World vacation, just to see the look on that douche Henry Giroux's face
PyromaniacStudios 2 years ago
Dr. Henry Giroux in this video reminds me of Larry David! hehe. No disrespect meant though; I like listening to his theories about Disney.
Justin2192 2 years ago
I still think that parents shouldn't be afraid to show their kids Disney movies. It's a way to bring up issues in a non-threatening way.
I mean, for example, you could show a child The Little Mermaid and then encourage him/her to think about Eric's love for Ariel, and the idea that they didn't really know each other, etc.
These moves are entertaining ways to start potentially important conversations.
Soulforge00 2 years ago 13
@Soulforge00 that she was willing to give up her greatest gift, her voice, to be near him?
babzc 1 year ago
@babzc The message that was sent is he was with Ariel only for her looks.
undead50 9 months ago
does anyone know what the main argument in this movie might be?
crazychrzkidd 2 years ago
did you watch it? It's about how popular media reinforce dominant stereotypes... Watch it again and you will see (hopefully).
navazguitar 2 years ago 2
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SmokeEater2388 2 years ago
my mom took me to disneyland when i was six months old but she was only 18 but still
XavierDrake 2 years ago
you mean you were a product of teen pregnancy?!
Duvmasta 2 years ago
yup i was the mistake that ruined my mommies life she got kicked out of her house she couldnt go to college with a baby and she had no munnies she was left by my dad when i was 1 so she had to ake care of me
XavierDrake 2 years ago
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Walt Disney was a 33rd degree freemanson, sick motherfucker sold he's soul for the minds of little boys and girls thru out the world
u want proof look at he's signature "walt disney"
can u see thee number of the beast here I'll tell you
first half of the w =6
the dot oN the i= 6
the y= 6 ,
or it could all just be one big consiracy ... How ever you look at it
it ur child mind not urs
bust2007 2 years ago
whta i reacted to as a child when watching hunchback of notre dame was that they had changed frollo from "priest" to "judge" and the priest in the movie was a good character. Why coudnt they keep him a priest as in the original story?
ensittare 2 years ago 2
I thought he was a judge on top of being a priest.
Scardy 2 years ago
Yo! I had a knock off drugstore (Rite Aid) version of that make up set when I was a girl.
lavinder11 2 years ago
I think it's also important to distinguish Disney the CORPORATION (after Walt Disney's death) from the Disney animated features and the people who make them.
taffysaur 2 years ago
Wtf? Snow White- the first Disney Princess- had dark hair. As did Belle from Beauty and the beast, Ariel from Little Mermaid (redhead), and... well, EVERYONE except Sleeping Beauty + Cinderella.
Two movies.
There've been Arabian leading ladies (Jasmine), Chinese (Mulan), Native American (Pocahontas), Gypsy/Roma (Esmerelda) and the upcoming Princess + the Frog stars an African American girl.
Think before you speak.
taffysaur 2 years ago 3
did you know the true pocahontas was 10 years old and was not super thin, and tall with long hair and john smith was 30. She never married him she married some farmer. Disney made her with beautiful eyes with long eyelashes and big boobs & tall n thin....
TheAmberlulu14 2 years ago 2
pocahontas in the movie never marries john smith..in fact in the 2nd movie she marries another english guy with brown or red head i cant remember his name
jaime45x 2 years ago
the real pocahontas married john rolfe. also known as her love interest from the second movie.
lilcrazy09 2 years ago