Paul Sereno: What can fossils teach us?

[algerhistogram]

i'm going to bookmark where i am in this video. i have watched through 8:43

[ApocDevTeam]

lol when that crocodile suddenly turned. must have scared the shit out the guy sitting on it

[theinsectmanofwv]

Evolutionists are bluffing when they say their beliefs are scientific. Be sure to look at the list of evolutionists who refuse the debate challenge from Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo.

[Al3xX420]

@theinsectmanofwv You are an idiot for using the term 'evolutionist.' You wouldn't call someone a gravitationist or an atomist.

[Odjii]

Paul Sereno is my favorite paleontologist. Well after Edward Petuch, I love his lectures. .

[LibanPhotography]

12:57 scared the living shit out of me.

[xeikan666]

He is awesome!

[chinaliew]

his english so clear and good

[Icix1]

Yeah there's definitely no proof for evolution.

[nitwitters]

and there's realy no proof there is a god or something of that.

[Icix1]

Just so you know I was being sarcastic. There are MOUNTAINS of evidence, literally, to prove evolution. God just has a few books, written by humans, i might add. A tad fishy perhaps?

God is so powerful he needs mortal men to write down his views, and then he needs mortal men to warp and distort his image over a thousands of years?

[semiliteratedgod]

I wonder then, are internet trolls fully evolved humans?

[Icix1]

Obviously.

[flibbertergibbet]

I don't think any of us are FULLY evolved humans...

[seyoumeye]

the fundamental scientific work/re-searches/papers are all infested by "blood thirsty corporate greedy money makers" making it impossible to re-search our true past reptilian origin. "The snake Master" nor are they pleased with the work of "the serpent's sons" whom mingled with the Adamic mamalian race". Doesn't it require a lot of trial and failure before reaching perfection?

[PathofReason]

What are you talking about? Snake Master?

[seyoumeye]

For Snake Master or "sons of the serpent"...

read Michael Tsarion work although be advice he might be a member of the Rosy Croix...?

[Archaenum]

He's talking illogical, biased nonsense. YT is inundated with idiots like him. Best to ignore them.

[sunrisewalker]

Too many pronouns my friend. Are you talking about the speaker? Or somebody commenting?

[Archaenum]

That was 4 months ago! Reading my comment, the pronoun referred to somebody commenting. I probably addressed it to someone who was having trouble with a troll, but YT placed the comment in the wrong area.

I would not have bothered to watch (or comment on) the video if I considered Paul Sereno an idiot. I am very definitely not a creationist, which would be the incorrect interpretation of my comment.

Satisfied?

[sunrisewalker]

Entirely satisfied.

I didn't mean to offend you. I actually wanted clarification. So I appreciate your response.

[Archaenum]

Sorry if I sounded grumpy. I was probably reacting to having to search through all the comments to find what I originally said. The fault is not yours, it is a problem with the way YT does not link comments together in an easy-to-find manner.

[sunrisewalker]

That is the truth. The comment system in youtube needs a lot of work to be truly user friendly. thanks for taking the time to respond both times, despite that.

[tvat1]

5@@@@@!

[1trip711]

1/5 lame

[waken12]

i cant know if mamals have reached maximum body sice till now - so that argument is pretty silly

[gatyair]

there's a scaling problem for terrestrial vertebrates, the problem is that they have a certain proportion between bone diameter and height, so the diameter of a weight bearing bone (say the femur) increases linearly with hight, it follows that the cross section increases by the second power (pi*r^2) but mass increases with volume which increases by the third power. since bones have a maximum compression strength, they bend over a certain body size (dependent on that proportion i began with).

[waken12]

thank you for your serious answer. You are right but missed the point that this proportion you talk about is also subject of evolution. Future mamals may develop a lighter but more stable bone structure and reach a heigher body weight.

a "maximum" can almost always only claimed for past time periods. ;)

[ViolaeGM]

His insults towards animals in the beginning piss me off

[1trip711]

I colect fossils !!!!!

[Faraway89]

"What can fossils teach us?"

Anyone?

[boardsnow44]

fossils taught him personally that art and science can mesh together to help attract minds of all kinds in the pursuit of advancing knowledge. fossils in general can teach us about evolution and life that came before.

[Icix1]

lol there's a mountain of physical evidence, literally, for evolution and there's this book that says that all this evidence is wrong?

Right.

Sorry, but I live in the real world, not fantasy land. You live, eat, die, and rot in the ground. Stop being so childish and accept life for what it is.

[Chick6517]

Could you teach me how to make the video look like that? My video is always blurry and I feel like I&TBPSQUOm not uploading it right.

[psixosic]

I colect fossils !!!!!

[DeletedDelusion]

Awesome video.

[Paomnnehal]

I see we have a creationist (or maybe troll) on the page lol

All he's doing is quote mining.

[swyft187]

I really really like this guy.

[atypicalguy]

Kind of dry but informative. More like this TED.

[tyrbolo]

Crocodile wrestling is real hands on science..

[amazingairbrushing]

science sounds so dumb sometimes!

[code933k]

I think his comments on his own way to science are as great as those dinosaurs shown

[code933k]

Beautiful addition.

[Cyraside]

Enjoyed the talk, but um, what's all this "debate" going on about evolutionary theory here? What's all this talk about no transitional forms, speciation never been observed, and quote mining Stephen Jay Gould about- as if I didn't know what was going on. Tell you what, why don't you guys just go eat your saviours body (cannibalism) and leave the future of humanity to people like Sereno here. Be horny for the end of the world (death worshipping cult) in private as Santa-Christ instructed. Peace.

[TomPaineII]

I'm an evo biology major. I can't wait to be able to stuff like this! I wanna go to a random desert that's way too hot & dig up old dead things! YAY!

[Aaberg123]

"I'm an evo biology major. I can't wait to be able to stuff like this! I wanna go to a random desert that's way too hot & dig up old dead things! YAY!"

Some people devote their entire life to a fairy tale. We call them priests.

[Jessiqua42]

14:24 isolated dinosaurs?! That could mean new species! Yaaaaay!

[ctastrophe]

One pissed-off crocodile

[SpecialKit]

Dearth

[ndjarnag]

best TED video I've seen in a loong time.

[lynchmobb2000]

The vast vast majority of mutations are anywhere from neutral to beneficial. We now know that each individual on earth has an average of 4 base pair mutations different from their parents. That means you and me too.

So the vast majority of mutations add information to the genome.

Your understanding of science and evolution is poor. Spend a few years reading and learning before you try to speak about somethin of which you know almost nothing.

[xinlo]

well done, you toasted his ass.

[saxquiz]

People who don't accept Evolution don't even deserve to be argued with.

[lynchmobb2000]

Sax, the minute I get the feeling my interlocutor is a troll, I stop too.

But the reason I argue is that there is small chance that the next young Einstein or Salk is reading these pages and might chose a different path if they don't see nonsense refuted.

I flatter myself but there is a chance and I hope that thoughtful young people might see that rationalism always wins.

Cheers.

[iurak6868]

thanks for the replies, even though i accept evolution, i learned a few things trough your arguments (4 base pair mutations per generation)

[swyft187]

In the words of the new generations of homo sapien sapiens; You own dude.

[iurak6868]

uff! you haven't been around religious people and channels ,like venomfanx, this guys really think evolution is completely wrong, and the earth is 6000 years old!

[ScienceToTheRescue]

Just a little correction.

"The average mutation rate was estimated to be ~2.5 x 10-8 mutations per nucleotide site or 175 mutations per diploid genome per generation."

[Nachman, Crowell, 2000, "Estimate of the Mutation Rate per Nucleotide in Humans", Genetics, Vol. 156, 297-304]

[lynchmobb2000]

Science, thank you. I learned something new today.

The discussion I was having with that poor uneducated person was merely trying to show that the mutation rate required for evolution to be viable was nothing outrageous or mathematically impossible.

Thanks for the info. Cheers.

[isegoria1]

Darwinians? Where the hell do you intellectually dishonest people get this propaganda?

Again yet another creationist that seriously needs to take a science class.

[swyft187]

You have no clue what you are typing about.

[tomdschneider]

bornagain7777777, see the paper and program pointed to from my channel.

[lynchmobb2000]

Creationist quote mining... what's the matter, couldn't find anything older than 1977? Well, a few things have been discovered since then including, but not limited to:

Tiktaalik - the exact transitional form between fish and land animals. Found. Debate over.

Ambulocetus -the exact transistional form between land animals and whales. Found. Debate over.

Even if not 1 fossil of any kind were ever found, the evidence from comparative biology and genetics would still substantiate evolution.

[bornagain7777777]

So how many molecular transitions do you think it would take to change a land animal into a whale ? 50,000? 1,000,000? Even one transition defies the math of the accepted detrimental mutation rate! Don't get so huffy with me just because the molecular evidence that is now coming in does not add up buddy!

[isegoria1]

Blatant misunderstanding of self replicating systems as well as decent with modification.

[bornagain7777777]

Oh is it?

"The closest science has come to observing and recording actual speciation in animals is the work of Theodosius Dobzhansky in Drosophilia paulistorium fruit flies. But even here, only reproductive isolation, not a new species, appeared." from page 32 "Acquiring Genomes" Lynn Margulis.

[isegoria1]

Utter bullshit. Nice try. Speciation has actually been observed many times over. Had you bothered to take a science class instead of blathering your creationist lies you would have know that.

[farvision]

bornagain7777777 lookup ring species if you want to learn something.

[lynchmobb2000]

"So how many molecular transitions do you think it would take to change a land animal into a whale ? 50,000? 1,000,000?"

Molecular transitions? That is a meaningless phrase, but I think what you mean is "base pair mutations." Well, the average mammal species has 3 billion base pairs, then it would take 50 million base pairs. Since it took 15 million years to complete the transition, that is 3-4 base pairs per year, exactly along the lines of what we see in mammals today.

Debate over.

[Aaberg123]

I've seen the same guys arguments that you have. But 50,000 changes over 4 millon years comes to 1 small change every 80 years. No problem.

[bornagain7777777]

To take a line of fossils and claim that they represent a lineage is not a scientific hypothesis that can be tested, but an assertion that carries the same validity as a bedtime story — amusing, perhaps even instructive, but not scientific.Evolutionist - Henry Gee, editor of Nature, on the feasibility of reconstructing phylogenetic trees from fossils

[isegoria1]

Argument from blather? Nice but fail

[lynchmobb2000]

What we see, in the fossil record, is a progressive series of fossils, from simple forms to more advanced forms over the course of 4 billion years.

The fossil record is exactly mirrored by the genetic record. The 2 match up exactly. The species most closely related in the fossil record, are also the most closely related in their genes.

The anatomy of closely related species is also seen in comparative anatomy, which verifies the fossil record and genetic record exactly.

Debate over.

[jack19790]

BAM! Chilifries bitch!

Smoke those sceptics with their will bent on fantacy.

[sy1234]

> Henry Gee, editor of Nature

quote from his Nature profile:

> Despite the fact that the previous iteration of this profile was transparently a work of fantasy, it has required modification because some people were beginning to believe it. For more of the same, you are invited to read this wikipedia entry, almost all of which is wrong...

Sounds like your Christian revisionist buddies have been at work on his Wikipedia article.

Is your quote even trustworthy?

[isegoria1]

As Kent Hovind would say, "You are stupid on Purpose"

[sy1234]

> Allen MacNeill PhD

You list no actual source, just a name.  It's easy to get his AIM, email and phone number. Have you contacted him to verify this quote?

[bornagain7777777]

He personally Gave the quote to me in a debate on the internet, you can e:mail him if you want!

[sy1234]

I found where that quotemine came from. It's from his post on creationist strawmen. Why did you chose to not cite your source?

evolutionlist(.)blogspot(.)com­/2007/10/rm-ns-creationist-and­-id-strawman.html#c91044652091­8958322

[Paomnnehal]

Can you do anything but quote mine? Lol

[cobleymj]

@lynchmobb2000 You obviously dont understand much about the species you are describing

[lynchmobb2000]

@cobleymj

Oh? What specifically am I wrong about?

Or are you just, "that guy"?

[bornagain7777777]

"In virtually all cases a new taxon appears for the first time in the fossil record with most definitive features already present, and practically no known stem-group forms." (Fossils and Evolution, Dr TS Kemp - Curator of Zoological Collections, Oxford University, Oxford Uni Press, p246, 1999)

[sy1234]

That quote makes perfect sense. Do you misunderstand it somehow? Where did you get your degree?

Did you read the book? It definitely doesn't support your creationist dogma. That same book, first chapter:

"What are fossils good for? These remains of organisms that once lived represent the only direct evidence of what has been happening to life on Earth during the last 3000 million (3 billion) years of preserved paleontological history."

[Paomnnehal]

It's a shame the United States produces so little scientists.

[highway234]

paomnnehal: i dunno, i think we probably actually need more generalists.

[lollzor]

Dinosaurs are always interesting to hear about. Great clip!

[1trip711]

Can you say Rambling crappy talk.

This guy is a retard!!!

[Paomnnehal]

I thought it was interesting, he's not retarded.

[1trip711]

YOUR retarded

[Paomnnehal]

The word you're looking for is "You're" as in "You are". I'm not sure I can posses retarded.

[isegoria1]

Rambling crappy talk? But you could not counter even one single point that he made.

[therealgeeza]

the title of this video is misleading. this a rambling talk about not much.

[isegoria1]

Rambling because you just could not grasp the topic.

[therealgeeza]

ha ha. actually they are flying spaghetti monster middens.

[Flyborg]

Your memories were put there to decieve you; the Earth is less than 6 seconds old.

[perqa]

haha xD

[shameoncanada]

Where are the unicorn fossils?

[Khamila1]

Those are invisible and pink! ^^

[pookiehohn]

How can something be invisible and pink?

[farvision]

how can someone rise from the dead?

[pakratmak]

hydraulics, puppetry, jumper cables, catapult, geyser......

[NiNJack]

hahahahahahhahhahahah @ u

[sisyphusorianus9787]

hah... nice, troll.

[Paomnnehal]

Yeah, those damn fossils, misleading people... pshh...

[ThePsychoReturns]

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