The only thing I notice is that LED Bulbs are too costly and online retailers mark up the products so high i dont even want to purchase it. Good thing I was able to actually find "Authentic" LED manufacturer overseas and get a much better direct factory pricing!. Because of this I decided to sell my own LED lighting products with factory direct pricing for people like that likes to save and get a good deal unlike over priced LEDs.
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LEDs have been implemented in emergency lighting, general lighting and decorative lighting, particularly by using colour-controlled LED lighting modules. Visit electricalproducts com au for details
Electricalproducts com au is an Australia's specialist supplier of all electrical products ranging from Pendant Lighting, Fluorescent Lighting, Downlights, Spotlights, Track Lighting, Oysters, Wall Lights, Ultra Violet Lighting LED Products, Hunter Pacifiic,etc.
LEDs have been implemented in emergency lighting, general lighting and decorative lighting, particularly by using colour-controlled LED lighting modules. Visit electricalproducts com au for details
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LEDs have been implemented in emergency lighting, general lighting and decorative lighting, particularly by using colour-controlled LED lighting modules. Visit electricalproducts com au for details
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LEDs have been implemented in emergency lighting, general lighting and decorative lighting, particularly by using colour-controlled LED lighting modules. Visit electricalproducts com au for details
@pypes84 the heatsink is used to maintain the diode from overheating, even a small increase in temperature above the normal can damage the diode and cut its life expectancy
@martinaee I suggest you read the page on Luminous efficacy over on wikipedia
That puts your typical ballasted LED bulb replacement at around 10% efficient, comparable to LPMV ("florescent") systems, even the LED's themselves peak at 22% (within the range of 0.6-22%, assuming a value of 22% would be very generous).
Unless your using your LED bulbs as heaters then I'm afraid your 90% efficiency statement is bright green BS. Also my invocation of 'physics' cites references.
@pypes84 Thanks for that reply pypes84... I am sucking in as much info about led's as I can find and that was actually really helpful. While you are right the efficiency fig. I had was not possible at all in terms of overall luminous efficacy I do think that figure of a maximum efficiency of 22% will skyrocket. Cree had already achieved 208 lm/W last year in Feb. which is way over 22%---- While I'm sure that is under peak conditions it shows that the tech is leaping forward. imo VERY efficient.
Yes they do make dim able LED's that are 38 dollars. The transformer should be replaced as the load these lights put on the ordinary halogen transformer is so low it doesn't pick it up and can be reflected with them flickering on and off. But some I've heard you can get away with not changing the transformer.
I'm getting a quote on changing the house of 35 halogen down lights to LEDs as the insulation in the roof we hope should be able to cover these lights or come very close to light. ledcentr
I only got CCFL because its cheaper to run and can be more reliable than incandescence. Until leds get to the simular price / performace, I will not be
paying 50$ for a single lamp. Especially since LED life has yet to not be
grossly overestimated by the led manufacture to pump up sales.
I got rid of my CFLs after I got really bad head and eye ache after I spent a few hours sitting the their light: I have a dimly lit flat, only 1 window per room in what used to be the attic, so I have to have the lights on all day, so all day at home = migraine. Since changing back to the old type I've not had any head/eye ache problems but I would like to go to LED and see if they have any effect.
LEDs are much better. CFLs create a huge amount of blue light which do extremely harm your eyes and they flicker. And if you have Pets, they can get sick from the highfrequency buzz the CFLs create. What i like at the LEDs is that you can mix your light allmost gapless from daylight to nice warmwhite (which is amazing for the late evening hours) :)
Though blue has a tendancy to appear brighter due to how your eyes percive wavelength's this infact makes it safer over say red where your brain does not fully register it to adjust the pupil allowing to much light in. However CCFL do produce a large amount of UV but most of this is absorbed and converted in the process of fluorescence. Only real exceptions to this are "dental blue" tube's, but these are uncommon outside of photo development, medical lab's, and dentistry .
You should study more about LED products. If you tested from one company it doesn't mean you know all. It's stupid thinking of every one who tested them once.
The amount of Mercury in a CFL tube is allmost non existent, its about a drop(1/20 mL ) of mercury for a 2 inch diameter 12 Foot long tube. There is 30 time's more mercury in a simple mercury switch. So i would say your statement is a extream exaggeration :P.
@Lokivoid 1/20 mL times how many million thrown into land fill tips because people won't/don't take them to any 'special' point to dispose of them. It's an environmental time bomb.
This is becuse CFL "lightbulbs" are cheaply made using vary poor circuit design, the failures are caused by inadequate cooling on the transformer and transistor and limited to no signal filter and load stablization. Dont use CFL "lightbulbs" just go buy some decent transformer ballist's at your local lowes or homedepot these can run 24/7 for 5+ years with no issue.
Wow. I doubt your knowledge of "climate science" exceeds your mastery of the English language and, indeed, the written word.
I would ask what your opinion of those emails taken from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, but I am prepared to trust my instincts on your abilities which tell me that you either don't know anything about them or if you do will likely deny the authenticity, content, or apparent meaning and also label them a "scam".
Your overuse of flowery words does not impress me whatsoever. CRU's research most largely supports all current theories concerning global warming so I don't know what the Hell you are talking about, but I suspect you don't either. It seems you only read and chose to understand those segments that you feel support your preconceived notions. There is agreeably areas of debate, and nobody (including CRU) claims to have all the answers. The overall body of research supports GW. Undeniable.
You are truly a fool. Legitimate science doesn't manufacturer data, picking and choosing to skew an argument one way or another. This is indeed the case with global warming as the alarmist fail to recognize the Medieval Warming Period and the Little Ice Age. Weather you admit it or not, are aware of it or not, you seek the destruction of modern society by means a Religious CULT known as Global Climate Change.
I am through with you. Get the hell out of my country!
I think it was YOU who initiated the "scam" labeling...not me, but good try at the reversal game. Those alleged emails prove nothing, mean nothing and again segments are being clipped to support the anti-warming crowd. You chose to post here on a board concerning LED's..not GW. You just want to take any oppurtunity to make brash political statements. Don't you instead want videos on monster trucks or something posted by the Heritage Foundation? Just STFU.
Very impressive vid!! In SA, LED bulbs not big but I have tried 3 in my kitchen. I relly tried but could just not give me the light I needed, and Im not fussy :-( Ill wait till they improve!
The LED arays that I have been putting together work quite well with a dimmer. One of my next projects is to get them to work with a triac which will be installable in the point of use unlike the variac which stays in the lab. There is a house in Arizona where I have installed quite a few arays with 330 LEDs each and taking a thousand volts each but they do light the house. One of the tricks is to only drive them to half power. Otherwise they burn out like the factory made junk.
they will light a small room like a bathroom, i have three 1.5 watt led bulbs in my bathroom while not very bright they were way better than i expected considering the low wattage i recommend them if you can get them cheap, also exellent as a secondary light source, the ones at sams club are not bad deal 15 bucks for the three 1.5 watt bulbs
Once they get the reflector design right, they will be able to light up a room just fine. Using led lights in homes is a brand new idea, so stop complaining and give them time to perfect the technology.
1. Fluorescent Bulb environment friendliness is canceled by it''s mercury content and they make your home feel like an office or hospital.
2. Incandescent Bulbs waste energy by releasing heat but in colder climates they help to heat you home so energy is not wasted and your gas bills will be reduced.
3. Led lights are brighter but only when looking at the bulb. LED lights will not fill your room with light. They are good for spot lighting only.
"Led lights are brighter but only when looking at the bulb. They are good for spot lighting only" Wehr did you hear this ? you might refer to the fact that the most leds known to general public have an rather extreme light density but a low over all output. but this dose not apply to modern high power leds ( google for cree MC-E,XR-E,luxeon TFFC k2 and osram ostar) if you want to learn more about leds i highly recommend going to candle power forums
Led are WAY better then cfl even now drop most likely wont break more energy efficent lasts longer and in the future will be better and cheap AND NO MERCURY OR TOXIC SHIT!
Exactly, loco. Power factor *can* be adjusted if you use the right circuitry. I use some chips from IRF *designed* for CFL usage and the suggested reference schematic and get a PF of 0.95 or better. And for the price of adding one cap, another coil and a resistor to the circuit. Making a PF correcting line driven current control power circuit isn;t that hard. Have done so with three Luxeon "Rebel Star" LEDs and I get 640 Lumens and a PF 0.97 at 120 VAC. Oh, and a cost of $30 in parts.
Lastly, you don't mention anything about power factor. Every LED bulb replacement I've seen has a power factor of 0.7 or lower, which means that 30% or more energy needs to be generated than what is actually measured by the power meter. CFLs actually have this problem too.
Good video, but there are few points that I think need clarification. The Eternaleds website states that this product is only a 50W equivalent. Also, the statement that it reaches full brightness instantly needs an asterisk. In fact, almost every single LED product will decrease in light output after it has reached thermal equilibrium.
I totally agree man, wait tell the technology to mature then start to buy them, right know any hardware store does not eve sell led lighting, but supply and demand for LED is very low so the cost is very high, tho it is a promising technology 100 percent eco friendly. Thanks for the video
from production price to ed-consumer price is still 100++ %.
For example Cree,Seoul or the new TFFC K2 Leds
Emitters are sold for about 4 $ per piece
and retail for 10+$ (3 Euro -> 8 Euro in Germany).
Most of the Leds are manufactured in China
with Emitters from Taiwan, eerrrm... China.
So if you buy a Led spot for 100$ , at least 50$ is for Grean Deals , 25$ for his chinese merchant ,and about 20$ is profit for the manufacturers of rest.regards.
I would check out Wholesale LED Lights In the UK. Just google them and see the range of LED Lights they offer.You can call them on 0845 88 33 288
Ambaz0709 8 months ago
if u want 2 learn more about LED lighting i can teach anyone that can and u can get them allot cheeper then this!
mike12skater 8 months ago
Get LED lights at spektrum-led(dot)com
bigrick1234 8 months ago
The only thing I notice is that LED Bulbs are too costly and online retailers mark up the products so high i dont even want to purchase it. Good thing I was able to actually find "Authentic" LED manufacturer overseas and get a much better direct factory pricing!. Because of this I decided to sell my own LED lighting products with factory direct pricing for people like that likes to save and get a good deal unlike over priced LEDs.
LEDSONIXdotCOM 8 months ago
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corathot 11 months ago
Oh, p.s. LED's most definitely DO work on dimmer switches---- LED's aren't the problem, crappy electronics/circuits are.
Look at high end LED flashlights from Fenix, 4Sevens, Surefire, Olight, etc.
martinaee 1 year ago
25 bucks at Lowes.
metalalien79 1 year ago
CESP sell 6w for USD 5.90
WhiteswanMusic 11 months ago
Protip: If your bulb incorporates a large heatsink it probably isn't terribly energy efficient.
pypes84 1 year ago
@pypes84 the heatsink is used to maintain the diode from overheating, even a small increase in temperature above the normal can damage the diode and cut its life expectancy
oleksiyb 1 year ago
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martinaee 1 year ago
@martinaee I suggest you read the page on Luminous efficacy over on wikipedia
That puts your typical ballasted LED bulb replacement at around 10% efficient, comparable to LPMV ("florescent") systems, even the LED's themselves peak at 22% (within the range of 0.6-22%, assuming a value of 22% would be very generous).
Unless your using your LED bulbs as heaters then I'm afraid your 90% efficiency statement is bright green BS. Also my invocation of 'physics' cites references.
pypes84 1 year ago
@pypes84 Thanks for that reply pypes84... I am sucking in as much info about led's as I can find and that was actually really helpful. While you are right the efficiency fig. I had was not possible at all in terms of overall luminous efficacy I do think that figure of a maximum efficiency of 22% will skyrocket. Cree had already achieved 208 lm/W last year in Feb. which is way over 22%---- While I'm sure that is under peak conditions it shows that the tech is leaping forward. imo VERY efficient.
martinaee 1 year ago
environment is fine, I just wanna have a decent light so will keep using old ones..
garagecrap 1 year ago
by the time you reach ROI w led lights, new brighter leds whoulve come out
jiggi4 1 year ago
One major advantage is LED lights starts instantly and isn't hurt by quick on/off cycling that will quickly kill CFLs.
So for toilet, wardrobe, hall way, fridge, bed light nothing beats LED.
Paxmax 1 year ago
Yes they do make dim able LED's that are 38 dollars. The transformer should be replaced as the load these lights put on the ordinary halogen transformer is so low it doesn't pick it up and can be reflected with them flickering on and off. But some I've heard you can get away with not changing the transformer.
I'm getting a quote on changing the house of 35 halogen down lights to LEDs as the insulation in the roof we hope should be able to cover these lights or come very close to light. ledcentr
trance12007 1 year ago
I only got CCFL because its cheaper to run and can be more reliable than incandescence. Until leds get to the simular price / performace, I will not be
paying 50$ for a single lamp. Especially since LED life has yet to not be
grossly overestimated by the led manufacture to pump up sales.
lol boobies :P
kakureru 1 year ago 2
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mostly wide bulbs cannot fits in the sockets,,,
only narrow bulb can fit in a socket
bestamerica 1 year ago
UV damages your eyes.
Scarlet1604 1 year ago
I got rid of my CFLs after I got really bad head and eye ache after I spent a few hours sitting the their light: I have a dimly lit flat, only 1 window per room in what used to be the attic, so I have to have the lights on all day, so all day at home = migraine. Since changing back to the old type I've not had any head/eye ache problems but I would like to go to LED and see if they have any effect.
Scarlet1604 1 year ago
Hmm... I detect a Canadian accent... :-3
ryepdx 1 year ago
LEDs are much better. CFLs create a huge amount of blue light which do extremely harm your eyes and they flicker. And if you have Pets, they can get sick from the highfrequency buzz the CFLs create. What i like at the LEDs is that you can mix your light allmost gapless from daylight to nice warmwhite (which is amazing for the late evening hours) :)
KRAFTWERK2K6 1 year ago
@KRAFTWERK2K6
Though blue has a tendancy to appear brighter due to how your eyes percive wavelength's this infact makes it safer over say red where your brain does not fully register it to adjust the pupil allowing to much light in. However CCFL do produce a large amount of UV but most of this is absorbed and converted in the process of fluorescence. Only real exceptions to this are "dental blue" tube's, but these are uncommon outside of photo development, medical lab's, and dentistry .
Lokivoid 1 year ago
You should study more about LED products. If you tested from one company it doesn't mean you know all. It's stupid thinking of every one who tested them once.
bartpawlikowski 2 years ago
And if a cfl breaks in your house get ready for hazmat to come in and kick you out to clean all the mercury out
thagonzp 2 years ago
@thagonzp
The amount of Mercury in a CFL tube is allmost non existent, its about a drop(1/20 mL ) of mercury for a 2 inch diameter 12 Foot long tube. There is 30 time's more mercury in a simple mercury switch. So i would say your statement is a extream exaggeration :P.
Lokivoid 1 year ago
@Lokivoid 1/20 mL times how many million thrown into land fill tips because people won't/don't take them to any 'special' point to dispose of them. It's an environmental time bomb.
Scarlet1604 1 year ago
Most of the CFL's I bought didn't last as long as incandescent.
I Would never buy another one.
QuarkToo 2 years ago
I bought some for my house about 15 years ago and they still work
Richard482 2 years ago
@QuarkToo
This is becuse CFL "lightbulbs" are cheaply made using vary poor circuit design, the failures are caused by inadequate cooling on the transformer and transistor and limited to no signal filter and load stablization. Dont use CFL "lightbulbs" just go buy some decent transformer ballist's at your local lowes or homedepot these can run 24/7 for 5+ years with no issue.
Lokivoid 1 year ago
nice love the video man
killacam44 2 years ago
I am going to switch all my lights over to LED so far i have one as a full time night light in the kitchen and we never noticed it on our bill.
UnpricedFire 2 years ago
Global warming and man-made climate change are a SCAM.
sniffsnarff 2 years ago
The actual "Scam" is your claims of global warming being a "scam". Quit being so stupid.
74VDC 2 years ago
Wow. I doubt your knowledge of "climate science" exceeds your mastery of the English language and, indeed, the written word.
I would ask what your opinion of those emails taken from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, but I am prepared to trust my instincts on your abilities which tell me that you either don't know anything about them or if you do will likely deny the authenticity, content, or apparent meaning and also label them a "scam".
Good day to you, sir.
sniffsnarff 2 years ago
Your overuse of flowery words does not impress me whatsoever. CRU's research most largely supports all current theories concerning global warming so I don't know what the Hell you are talking about, but I suspect you don't either. It seems you only read and chose to understand those segments that you feel support your preconceived notions. There is agreeably areas of debate, and nobody (including CRU) claims to have all the answers. The overall body of research supports GW. Undeniable.
74VDC 2 years ago
You are truly a fool. Legitimate science doesn't manufacturer data, picking and choosing to skew an argument one way or another. This is indeed the case with global warming as the alarmist fail to recognize the Medieval Warming Period and the Little Ice Age. Weather you admit it or not, are aware of it or not, you seek the destruction of modern society by means a Religious CULT known as Global Climate Change.
I am through with you. Get the hell out of my country!
sniffsnarff 2 years ago
"I am through with you. Get the hell out of my country!" --sniffsnarl
"You're country"...hahaha...why certainly comrade Stalin, but not until you finish licking the sweat from the under side of my ball sack.
Yeah...I actually have balls, unlike you, sissy boy.
74VDC 2 years ago
Hey, OLD MAN - I don't swing that way!
And if I were Stalin, I wouldn't deport you, I'd have you shot or starved. Obviously, you don't know history either.
So what do you do for a living, besides troll YouTube?
sniffsnarff 2 years ago
stop it...you know you do...you like it. Put on your lip stick and rouge and be a good boy.
74VDC 2 years ago
kinky.
sniffsnarff 2 years ago
I think it was YOU who initiated the "scam" labeling...not me, but good try at the reversal game. Those alleged emails prove nothing, mean nothing and again segments are being clipped to support the anti-warming crowd. You chose to post here on a board concerning LED's..not GW. You just want to take any oppurtunity to make brash political statements. Don't you instead want videos on monster trucks or something posted by the Heritage Foundation? Just STFU.
74VDC 2 years ago
Very impressive vid!! In SA, LED bulbs not big but I have tried 3 in my kitchen. I relly tried but could just not give me the light I needed, and Im not fussy :-( Ill wait till they improve!
5lick5ticker 2 years ago
The LED arays that I have been putting together work quite well with a dimmer. One of my next projects is to get them to work with a triac which will be installable in the point of use unlike the variac which stays in the lab. There is a house in Arizona where I have installed quite a few arays with 330 LEDs each and taking a thousand volts each but they do light the house. One of the tricks is to only drive them to half power. Otherwise they burn out like the factory made junk.
calif92627 2 years ago
this is the future light and save energy
neno0912 2 years ago
they will light a small room like a bathroom, i have three 1.5 watt led bulbs in my bathroom while not very bright they were way better than i expected considering the low wattage i recommend them if you can get them cheap, also exellent as a secondary light source, the ones at sams club are not bad deal 15 bucks for the three 1.5 watt bulbs
deletethefed 2 years ago
I can light 400 leds with a "dead" AA battery. (see my videos) You can't get any more efficient than that. Good video.
Bill
Pirate88179 2 years ago
Once they get the reflector design right, they will be able to light up a room just fine. Using led lights in homes is a brand new idea, so stop complaining and give them time to perfect the technology.
STARZFAN31 2 years ago
Funny how they won't show a room lit up with led bulbs. They are only showing spot light against a wall.
spiker27a 2 years ago
LED's are like flashlights, bright spot light and blinding to look at but will not fill a room with light.
candle power forums are more for flashlights (Spot Lighting). I have some cree led's and they also suck for general lighting.
spiker27a 2 years ago
LOL why not use 3 10W ssc P7 LEDS :P that will be brighter !
GAMEFREAK666666 2 years ago
3 things you should consider:
1. Fluorescent Bulb environment friendliness is canceled by it''s mercury content and they make your home feel like an office or hospital.
2. Incandescent Bulbs waste energy by releasing heat but in colder climates they help to heat you home so energy is not wasted and your gas bills will be reduced.
3. Led lights are brighter but only when looking at the bulb. LED lights will not fill your room with light. They are good for spot lighting only.
spiker27a 2 years ago
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ston932 2 years ago
"Led lights are brighter but only when looking at the bulb. They are good for spot lighting only" Wehr did you hear this ? you might refer to the fact that the most leds known to general public have an rather extreme light density but a low over all output. but this dose not apply to modern high power leds ( google for cree MC-E,XR-E,luxeon TFFC k2 and osram ostar) if you want to learn more about leds i highly recommend going to candle power forums
ston932 2 years ago
energy saving bulbs:800 lumens 0.110 W
led bulbs:60 lumens 0.030 W
kevinkm77 2 years ago
Led are WAY better then cfl even now drop most likely wont break more energy efficent lasts longer and in the future will be better and cheap AND NO MERCURY OR TOXIC SHIT!
Ieonman 3 years ago
that's 5318008 and it's backwards I mean! :)
soccerchick6969 3 years ago
I'm surprised that no one else noticed that the calculator spelled out 'boobies' when flipped (8008135)
soccerchick6969 3 years ago 34
@soccerchick6969 this is fucking subliminal messaging...thay did that so everybody who watch this movie would purchase their bulbs :)))
quiteobserver 1 year ago
@soccerchick6969 epic
Blasphemouscody666 1 year ago
You know, "CCrane" has been experimenting with LED bulbs, you might want to check out their site and give their bulbs a tryout.
EclipseWebJS 3 years ago
Exactly, loco. Power factor *can* be adjusted if you use the right circuitry. I use some chips from IRF *designed* for CFL usage and the suggested reference schematic and get a PF of 0.95 or better. And for the price of adding one cap, another coil and a resistor to the circuit. Making a PF correcting line driven current control power circuit isn;t that hard. Have done so with three Luxeon "Rebel Star" LEDs and I get 640 Lumens and a PF 0.97 at 120 VAC. Oh, and a cost of $30 in parts.
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
mercury bulbs f that. led is the fruture.
tony550 3 years ago
Lastly, you don't mention anything about power factor. Every LED bulb replacement I've seen has a power factor of 0.7 or lower, which means that 30% or more energy needs to be generated than what is actually measured by the power meter. CFLs actually have this problem too.
locoberzerker 3 years ago
Good video, but there are few points that I think need clarification. The Eternaleds website states that this product is only a 50W equivalent. Also, the statement that it reaches full brightness instantly needs an asterisk. In fact, almost every single LED product will decrease in light output after it has reached thermal equilibrium.
locoberzerker 3 years ago
LEDs do work on a dimmer!
pamperchu 3 years ago 2
Only if the drive circuitry is designed properly. Many LED bulb replacements don't work on dimmers.
locoberzerker 3 years ago 7
I totally agree man, wait tell the technology to mature then start to buy them, right know any hardware store does not eve sell led lighting, but supply and demand for LED is very low so the cost is very high, tho it is a promising technology 100 percent eco friendly. Thanks for the video
nineaclock 3 years ago
The high initial cost is because the marge
from production price to ed-consumer price is still 100++ %.
For example Cree,Seoul or the new TFFC K2 Leds
Emitters are sold for about 4 $ per piece
and retail for 10+$ (3 Euro -> 8 Euro in Germany).
Most of the Leds are manufactured in China
with Emitters from Taiwan, eerrrm... China.
So if you buy a Led spot for 100$ , at least 50$ is for Grean Deals , 25$ for his chinese merchant ,and about 20$ is profit for the manufacturers of rest.regards.
WiAmp 3 years ago 2