1:38 Is that Saturday Night Live Alum, Rachel Dratch? She may not have been the prettiest woman you have ever seen, but she is a decent talent. And I am pretty sure she works.
I am not a liberal nor a conservative, but I DO NOT give any type of money to charity. Why? Because I am a tax payer, and some part of my money goes to fund welfare, food stamps, and low income housing supplements. That is charity in my opinion. Now, I will donate clothes and things I don't need anymore.
@R39Jon I know what you are saying. I personally know people who cant work for the reasons you gave. If they could work they would. I know people who are on disability and work part time too. It's hard I know what you mean.
@MrSpemat I can't stand the welfare culture, but I find it amusing that so many fellow conservatives have no clue that Michael Savage, AKA Michael Weiner, is a homosexual. I read his semi-autobiographical 1983 book “Vital Signs” which is about a New York Jewish guy, who fights his homosexual inclinations. Then there's his letter to beat poet Allen Ginsburgh where he said he wanted to "photograph the walls of his rectum."
He's a liberal homo masquerading as a conservative for the almighty dollar!
@MrSpemat Read his books. He is a smart guy, no question, but he figured out what sells, and just plays a character on his radio show. That was my point.
@BoSoxnation1972 - so you claim he's a homosexual despite the fact that he has had two wives - first one he divorced because she refused to have children, and the second one he has two children from and is still married to her? Doesn't sound much like a Homosexual to me...?
@hyuga4477 The business of being on welfare can be quite lucrative. I've got writers bums all around me who live high on the hog smoking and watch tv all day, while I work my ass off to keep a roof over my head....
I think his story is made up. I have known a few people that needed Welfare and they got it. They didnt get anywhere close to 2000 dollars tho...not even 1000 or 500 or 200...the money you get from welfare is a joke most of the time. its nothing to live on.
I think his story is made up. I have known I few people that needed Welfare and they got it. They didnt get anywhere close to 2000 dollars tho...not even 1000 or 500 or 200...the money you get from welfare is a joke most of the time. its nothing to live on.
Several years ago, I used to sell medical supplies for a well known provider (starts with Z) and made next to nothing! Anyway, I was in SF working..I had forgot the lunch my wife made for me. I had about $5 in my pocket and went to the Box for a cheap tasteless lunch. Outside was a "homeless" guy asking for help. While eating this garbage, I saw him pull out a bank-roll...he must have had 3 or 4 hundred bucks! Busting my ass for nothing...and this "bum" had more money than me! Shameless!
The US was supposed to have a limited government b/c the founders knew political power attracts swarms of crooks, demagogues & despots as surely as horse manure attracts swarms of horseflies.
Politics was never meant to be a profession, ike diapers, should be changed often & for the same reasons ! Giving this Obama access to ur wallet is like giving a dog access to ur refrigerator !
I like the photo of the fatso b!tch with a cigarette in one hand all the food to feed her starving face in front of her representing Savage's typical 'client'....lmfao
Instead of going left to right and back, you better just have common sense that you apply to each situation. Running into cover of any mob, left, right, liberal, socialist, fascist, communist is the clear proof of yours and others like you either immaturity or a practical cynicism.
Instead of going left to right and back, you better just have common sense that you apply to each situation. Running into cover of any mob, left, right, liberal, socialist, fascist, communist is the clear proof of yours and others like you either immaturity or a practical cynicism.
You don't start out with a full house full of furniture, you have to work and EARN the money for that. No employer would ever give someone 3K starting off just so their employee can live in a "normal home". I know people that work their asses off and don't have a full house of furniture.
@CRTV1982 Which is truly sick and wrong. NOBODY should have to "work their ass off," especially as MILLIONS want and cannot find work. The way we do things is rigged for the rich to get richer, and for the poor to get screwed. We have to change, dramatically, the way wealth is distributed.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Here is the problem though, wealth is not distributed unless you the government takes the money from someone and gives it to someone else. Yes, some of that has happened here in the US. And yes most people do not understand that when you start making all of these regulations on the market that it does rig the deck for the larger more established businesses and makes it harder for people starting out.
@CRTV1982 That's just not true, it's distributed NOW by low wages, unemployment, and greed to the TOP. Of COURSE we've distributed some to the poor, but it's far, far too little. When the balance lurches even more to the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, that is immoral and unsustainable.
I don't believe Savage for a moment. His salary was $5000 yet start up money for welfare was $3250? In today's dollars, that would put start up money between $15,000 and $20,000.
No, it is true. Savage is about 65 or so. When he was in his 20s - his "hippie" curtains - it was in the 1960s. There was the Left-winger rent control in NY that destroyed communities, so he probably got a cheap apartment. $5,000 was fine for a young man at that time, even in NYC.
@yukiomishima246 The sickest of lies. Rent control never destroyed any communities.
There's a lot that's truly rancid about this Nazi, that he's cooked up the moronic Archie Bunker hate of "hippies" is just pathetic. He attacks freedom, women's rights, the anti-war movement, those who saw the hypocrisy of politicians with pockets full of marlboros and a fridge full of Budweiser railing about the "evils" of marijuana, and how immoral the racism and greed of our society was. We need MORE hippies.
@USAGymnast And tell me, Bozo, what happens to the CHILDREN while she "gets off her lazy ass and works"?? Where do THEY go?
That's the problem, you NEVER have a CLUE about the real world, you listen to right wing hate radio as they viciously attack the victims of poverty, you NEVER have a clue what they really have to deal with. Fine, she gets a job, and her kids just sit in the apartment all day with the TV on? Do you have an INKLING of what decent child care costs?
@PrisonerNumber9653 it never dawns on you that she should of waited for MARRIAGE before popping out kids. then she could stay home with the children while her dutiful husband provided their income. everybody wins nobody loses. welcome to the real world actions have consequences. stop making excuses for people
@amyhuk Please explain how a child is supposed to eat your moralistic sermonizing. Can your puritanical crap pay a doctor bill?
This horseshit "Tut tut, you should wait for marriage!" does exactly ZERO to help anybody. It not only does NOT prevent unwanted pregnancies, it INCREASES them. If you're worried about unwanted pregnancies, you should support things that actually reduce them, honest comprehensive sex education and family planning. Which the right is CUTTING left and right.
@PrisonerNumber9653 she has SEVENTEEN children by at least a dozen different fathers. THAT is what you get when you dont set societal boundries. look i know people are human and they will make mistakes but SEVENTEEN children by 12 different fathers is NOT AN ACCIDENT!!! stop making excusses for people and demand they accept the consequences of their own actions
@amyhuk Horseshit. "Societal boundries" have nothing to do with it. You have taken one extreme and isolated case and decided everyone's like that.
You aren't going to make her "accept the consequences", you're going to punish the children, and they didn't do anything wrong.
Again, were there better sex education in schools, which is opposed by the right, and better family planning, AGAIN opposed by the right, who ALSO oppose a woman's right to choose, this is a lot less likely to happen.
@PrisonerNumber9653 lol...i think she had a little TOO much "sex education" the fact remains if society didnt REWARD her for having children she would of stopped at two...how many children do YOU have? and why? mmmm hmmm mmm hmmm...........you JUST proved my fucking point now didnt you sunshine. dia duit =)
@amyhuk NOBODY wins from your looking down on people who don't meet your standards of "morality". If nobody had sex until their "dutiful husband" (vomit) had a high enough income, most of the world's people wouldn't exist.
You have no CLUE about the real world, and your greed and hogwash absolutely DO have consequences. I'm not "making excuses," you're punishing people for small mistakes FOR LIFE, and punishing their children, who've done nothing wrong, often to the point of death.
@PrisonerNumber9653 money is what money does. when their was one wage earner society wide goods and services where half what they are today. and that is taking into account inflation. it would be like DOUBLING your current income...wouldnt you like that? having twice the amount of money you have now? or if you arent the providing type...wouldnt you like to be able to live off of half what you currently need to survive? either way its win win. it is liberal politics that fucked everything up
@amyhuk No, NOBODY wins from your cheap moralizing and sermons, which AGAIN do absolutely nothing whatsoever to reduce unwanted pregnancies.
And no, NOTHING was fucked up by liberal politics. We didn't create human sexuality, or poverty. We're merely providing reasonable ways of addressing both...while so far you've provided nothing that's proven effective in the slightest against either. Just excuses to NOT help those in need, which is just plain wrong any way you slice it.
@PrisonerNumber9653 i have seen the light. you liberals were right all along. we should encourage unwed mothers to sleep with as many men as possible and reward them with bigger and bigger welfare checks at the tax payers expense. what was i thinking? THAT is what is best for society. you me EVERYBODY involved ESPECIALLY the children. it is a scientific fact a child raised not knowing who its father is will always be more succcesful in life than one who was raised and loved by their own.
and no we should NEVER condemn any action that is counter productive to society we should encourage and nurture anti social behavior. rapists and murderers are just misunderstood its those DAMNED CHRISTIANS...THEY ARE TO BLAME!!!
@USAGymnast I love the truth, I am great with the truth. It is a FACT that it's not profitable to have more children. I know you're VERY stupid, but try to follow along. If you get a LITTLE more money, but your costs increase far MORE than the amount of your income increase...THAT IS NOT A PROFIT.
You want to punish children for the "sins" of the mother (never the father) and you can shove the SHIT of "get off their lazy asses and work" right up YOUR ass. These are VICTIMS, they are not "lazy"
@USAGymnast My God you are stupid. So, a single mom who didn't finish high school because she had to start working can just quit her job and start her own business...
with NOTHING to invest in this business, with NO hope of it making enough in profits INSTANTLY to keep her family fed or the rent paid.
You're truly brainwashed. You have no CLUE what the real world is, you just think "free markets" are a magic wand that cures all ills.
@USAGymnast You have no morals AT ALL. No conscience AT ALL. It's not freedom to support fascism and bigotry, and get to just MAKE UP that it's "moral". Some things are just immoral, whether you like it or not. You can cling to your fascism and your sick greed, but there's nothing remotely moral about them. Nothing.
@USAGymnast Liar. Freedom and liberty are distant STRANGERS to you. Greed isn't freedom. Inequality is NOT liberty. When one isn't free, NOBODY is free. While millions have no liberty, we as a nation have no liberty.
Capitalism is the OPPOSITE of freedom. Greed is the OPPOSITE of liberty.
It's a LIE that it's not compassion, humanity, the right thing to do. How do people with ZERO conscience get created? I don't know what disease destroyed your humanity, but you're a stain on the human race.
@USAGymnast NO, asshole, NOT EVERYBODY can go on student loans. There are MILLIONS unable to go to college because of lack of financial resources. AND, loans pay ONLY for college costs, how does a single mom FEED HER FAMILY while going to school on these magical student loans you think, falsely, are accessible to everyone?
You're a woman, yet STILL follow the despicable sexism of blaming the woman for unwanted pregnancies? You are brainwashed. "Sucks to be you"? FUCK OFF! What a bum you are!
@USAGymnast He investigated nursing home fraud, and saved a lot of lives in the process.
THAT is the purpose of education, to use the gifts God's given us to HELP OTHER PEOPLE. Not just to get obscenely rich.
Your mindset WOULD destroy the human race. Inequality at the level you're spinning for isn't anywhere close to sustainable. NOBODY is making a profit off educating all our children, or protecting the environment. Humans exist because decent people REJECT your sick mindset.
@USAGymnast No, I'm not condemning ANYBODY. And no, it is NOT the only reason "almost all" students go to college. Not even vaguely CLOSE. Many who ARE studying business or medicine or law, which WILL lead to well-paying jobs, are doing so NOT just to make money but to HELP PEOPLE. I have a close friend who (after getting a double-major in history and political sciences) graduated with honors from law school. He could have made six figures instantly, INSTEAD he went to work for the state AG.
@USAGymnast NOBODY should have less! YOU are the one wanting MILLIONS to not only have less than others, but less than they need to SURVIVE! What right do YOU have to see children who are sick and cannot afford to see a doctor and say "the person with 14 sports cars is more important than you are"?
@USAGymnast Wow are you stupid. No, jackass, they turned AWAY from the definition of socialism.
Tell me, on what page of Marx's Manifesto are gulags described? Socialism BY DEFINITION is not a dictatorship. Stalin and his ilk were NOT socialists OR Marxists.
@USAGymnast The most VILE of lies. YOU support slavery, not me. Forcing people to work shit jobs for slave wages is slavery. The workers getting their fair share of the wealth THEY CREATE is the opposite of slavery. Polar opposite.
You God damn well ARE responsible for other people, we all are. Claiming it should be supported for you to selfishly hoard wealth for yourself while stomping over the bodies of children YOU put into poverty and hopelessness is sick, just sick. YOU have the disorder.
@USAGymnast And it's not truth, it's the sickest of lies, and proves you have no functioning brain. Liberalism isn't a "mental disorder", it's common human decency. Not only is this a lie from a racist hate radio Nazi, but it's an insult to those who really DO have mental disorders...which, I suppose, you ALSO think is "irresponsible" of them.
@USAGymnast What SHIT!! This has NOTHING to do with "the right decisions". Our system helps the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, it has NOTHING to do with "decisions". Children don't "decide" to be in poverty. People don't "decide" to get sick or hurt or laid off. Your vile LIES that the poor are just people who "drop out and smoke dope" is sick trash, and NOTHING about "responsibility" is in poverty. Some of the most responsible people alive are poor, and the rich are IRRESPONSIBLE.
@USAGymnast Liar, I'm a very intelligent and well-educated person. You are a clueless tool of evil. YES, asshole, physical labor IS work. The idea that sitting in an air-conditioned office moving money around on a computer to screw other people and make yourself wealthy is "work" is idiocy. Someone invests millions in grain futures, a hailstorm wipes out the crops in half of Kansas, prices go up and you make 400,000 dollars over night. If that's "work", I'm the Easter Bunny.
@USAGymnast "Good paying jobs" is NOT the reason one gets an education, jackass. You bet your ASS we should be paying so that EVERYONE has access to education, not just the rich.
You ARE a whore! You think anything's fine if it makes money, NOTHING is of any value if it doesn't make some corporation wealthy. That's the DEFINITION of whoring.
This BULLSHIT of "consequences" for human beings having sex is fascist trash. The rich don't "take care of themselves," WE take care of them!
@USAGymnast My God. My God. You're without the slightest conscience at all. Without any morals, any humanity. You're just a Nazi. It's insane. The idea that you should ask why you put human need ahead of luxury is subhuman. What a pity you can't spend some time in the shoes of the people you hate for being victims of the vile failure of capitalism.
It IS the job of EVERY person to care for others. If people have to be forced to FOLLOW THE LAW, that's their choice.
@USAGymnast BULLSHIT!!! Abstinence is a PROVEN FAILURE. That's not responsibility, it's sermonizing and it DOES NOT WORK. Responsibility is living in the real world where people do have sex, there's not a DAMN thing wrong with it but you do so in a responsible way. It's a LIE to say they promote promiscuity, and a rancid LIE to say they promote abortions, they PREVENT abortions, they do NOT promote them.
And no, you piece of shit, they would NOT "go out of business" without abortion.
@USAGymnast Liar! The CDC most certainly does NOT say anything of the sort.
EVERY HUMAN BEING ALIVE is deserving of health care, of enough to eat, of decent housing, of educational opportunity. There is NO SUCH THING as a person who doesn't deserve these rights.
There are virtually NO addicts who don't want treatment. The problem isn't people choosing addiction, NOBODY chooses addiction. The problem is lack of access to treatment.
NOBODY should be tested on their job without probable cause.
People on welfare are NOT bums, you bastard! And to think it's OK to violate their right to privacy is sick. Just sick. It's cruel, immoral, degrading fascism. And who the fuck are YOU to tell them not to smoke a joint?
@USAGymnast You don't have a problem with someone having 14 sports cars in their garage while people are DYING because of lack of access to health care?
You have a disease. This total lack of any human conscience, putting sick greed ahead of human life, it's an illness. It's sick.
It's a LIE to say I'm "jealous", this isn't about ME. It's a LIE to say I'm a "Maoist", and socialism would lead to a far BETTER life and NOBODY in the life of the people in poverty now. NOBODY.
@USAGymnast God, you're an idiot. No, they can NOT just go get a better job. Do you really think someone who's worked flipping burgers or sweeping floors can just walk in and get a bank VP position? Sure, they can "get another job", flipping burgers across the street. FOR THE SAME SHITTY PAY.
It's a pathetic LIE to claim they don't pay taxes, they pay FAR more of their money in taxes than the wealthy. Sales tax, property tax.
The wealthy don't "earn" obscene luxury, and NOBODY "earns" poverty.
@USAGymnast HORSESHIT!!! They ARE slaves! They can NOT choose to quit those jobs, their childrens' LIVES depend on it, their HOME and HEALTH CARE depend on it. They ARE slaves.
They are NOT at the bottom of the barrel, you Nazi. They are human beings with EVERY SINGLE BIT as much value as the bosses fucking them over. They God damn well ARE victims, and they are FAR, FAR, FAR more noble and virtuous than you will ever be.
@USAGymnast More lies. Your ignorance is incredible. YES, jackass, millions ARE stuck in lousy schools, NO child chose to be in a crappy school. They do NOT have choices.
You bet your ASS we as a society should pay for higher education, and whether or not businesses want to hire those grads has ZERO to do with it. The purpose of the human mind is NOT to be a factory tool. A person who studies nothing but business is NOT an educated person, not at all.
@USAGymnast And I'm not talking about "charity", I'm talking about HUMAN RIGHTS. A person feeding his children shouldn't be "charity", nor should health care or education or housing. These are HUMAN RIGHTS that every person deserves.
@USAGymnast Fuck off, I'm not moving anywhere. I did NOT say Cuba was great, in fact it's suffering from widespread poverty because of the US embargo, and Castro's defiled the revolution with his iron grip on freedom for the people. In spite of this SOME things are still far better. No, Cuba does NOT have anywhere CLOSE to the amount of money the US has.
Yet their infant mortality rate is lower. How can that be?
NO, asshole, USA does NOT do more in charity, certainly NOT "far more".
@USAGymnast Then take Jersey Shore, take it far, far away from here. If people think that's culture, then capitalism has succeeded in destroying America, and once America's gone we'll leave nothing of value behind.
@USAGymnast The wealth CREATED BY WORKERS AND CONSUMERS, NOT THE BOSSES, NOT THE RICH! The idea that unless we let a few hoard most of the wealth in this nation we'll have no indoor plumbing or sanitation is idiotic. The OPPOSITE is true. NOW we have millions stuck in shitty neighborhoods with terrible sanitation services, what I'm talking about is NOBODY living in those conditions. The idea that it would lead to "no art" is a proven lie. It will lead to MORE, more medicine choices too.
@USAGymnast Despicable lies. The working poor contribute FAR more than you claim, and NOBODY contributes "nothing".
You ARE a bum. You support a system that helps the rich get richer while killing millions with crushing poverty no matter HOW hard they work. It's bullshit to call paying taxes "a gun to your head", and it's bullshit to say the workers don't produce wealth, they damn well DO produce the wealth, so do the consumers, but the BOSSES who do NOTHING to produce it keep most of it.
This is an absolute lie--welfare does not hand out 3 grand for furniture. My God--Savage is lying through his teeth here. I too worked as a social worker, you get 4 to 500 bucks a month on welfare, that's it. These people live in hovels, tenements, absolute shit holes. I've been there. I've seen it. Savage is a sad, angry clown, most likely because he's a closeted, repressed homosexual. Go suck a dick, already. You tired old Queen. Racist pig. Shrew.
@JosephCa64 You are absolutely correct about the part that Savage lied about welfare! I was going to say the same thing. People on welfare barely get by. Here's the sad about this whole thing. Most of Savage's viewers would honestly believe the lie that he said, and consider it as fact. Savage is again telling lies to his listeners to advance his political agenda.
@PoliticsILove Savage isn't even a conservative--he's a failed novelist and poet, who was a San Francisco liberal, who apparently was gay, way back when, His name isn't even Savage, It's Michael Weiner. Everything about the guy is a lie.
@Cytrome Beliefs? Like dropping at atomic bomb on the Haj to Mecca? Or calling homosexuals sodomites, who will burn in hell? Yeah I don't like those "beliefs." And, as to the homosexual thing, you do Savage is gay, don't ya?? He's sad, old, pencil necked, chicken shit, coward, closeted queen, self loathing homosexual. Thank u. :}
@Cytrome A piece of trash like Savage isn't worth my anger. If I saw him on the street, I'd probably smack em--just to see him cry like the bitch ass punk he is.
@JosephCa64 I'm fine with someone changing his name, and his sexual orientation is his own damn business.
There's plenty about him to hate. He promotes vicious bigotry, vile greed, and uses airwaves belonging to the public to attack one side of the political debate while hypocritically screaming about how awful it would be if the other side was able to refute his lies. Reagan killing Fairness Doctrine did and is doing massive damage to this nation.
@JosephCa64 I very much agree, it's a sick, vile lie and we should speak out against it whenever possible. Both as one who cares about gay people AND a Christian I find this sick trash of using faith as a weapon especially offensive.
That said, both the act of "outing" people and the rather hoary old myth that everyone or most people who are strongly homophobic are secretly gay probably doesn't help the cause a lot. And, even if they do, some things are just wrong.
@PrisonerNumber9653 I'm NOT done with outting people, but I draw a line when a closeted homosexual like Michael Savage spouts vile hateful homophobic rhetoric. At that point, all bets are off and that person's hypocrisy must be shown. People like Savage and Ted Hagard and Larry Craig--all of whom are gay--encourage stupid people to do stupid things. Attacks on homosexuals are rising of late--pushback by mouth breathing wing nuts, who can't deal with the fact that gay marriage is being accepted.
@JosephCa64 WTF? Where do you get your information? First off, he is not gay. Second of all, he is not homophobic. He's stated plenty of times that he's not anti-gay, just anti-gay marriage and not in favor of having the gay agenda shoved down his throat.
@ChiTownIsaac55 Read up on his youth in San Francisco when h e hung around Ginsberg--find the "novel," he wrote about a man, who sounded remarkably lie him, who was struggling with his attraction towards men. Who writes a book like that? Short of that, listen to his voice!!! A DUH! He sounds like Liberace. And, he said live on TV that gays were sodomites, who would burn in hell. His words. That's where I got my info from--any other questions u need answered there, skippy?
@JosephCa64 He's addressed the picture with Ginsberg, there was a huge group of people skinny dipping there, the picture did not capture all of them. I've listened to him for years and have not caught one whiff of homosexuality. He's married with a family, I don't see why you have to go digging in a book in which you're assuming the character he wrote about was him.
We all know about that episode on his show. He's said things to the contrary hundreds of times. Stop reaching here.
@ChiTownIsaac55 Right, right--skippy dipping with a bunch of gay guys!!! Not suspect at all! LMFAO! He's fruitier than a nutcake and everyone who knew him back then knows it. Sorry to break it to ya. He's a vile, racist, xenophobic, homophobic piece of shit on top of it. He's a worm, a chicken shit, loud mouth radio tough guy, who if you ever saw him in the street, he wouldn't dare say a word to anyone, lest he got his bitch ass kicked to the curb.
@JosephCa64@JosephCa64 You're a typical lib. You lost an argument so you resort to the usual name calling. To your last point, you lose again. Go to his "top ten callers" vid and hit the 10:00 mark. I don't give a damn what you think about his points, but he's not a bitch ass who's afraid to say what he thinks.
@ChiTownIsaac55 Lost an argument? To who? HA!! Listen, skippy, you're just a kid, who is obviously easily led astray by radio shitheads. It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. I'm in the publishing biz--I've been to SF a 100 times for expos and such. You ask anyone, who was around back then and they'll tell you the same, he was as gay as the came. Which is fine, unlike Mr. Weiner, i'm all for gay rights. But I can't stand a self loathing homosexual, which is exactly what Weiner is.
@ChiTownIsaac55 And, I'll repeat, Michael Weiner, all 5 foot nothing and 100 pounds of him would never say a word to anyone's face. In fact, he has to hide in public, as many if not most of the rodeo clowns on radio do.
@JosephCa64 Are you dense. GO TO THE VIDEO AND WATCH HIM TALK OUT IN PUBLIC. You can say he's gay another 100 times, but it won't make it any more true. Understand that, Skippy? You're not getting anyone to laugh with you pathetic humor.
@ChiTownIsaac55 Your link leads nowhere, Einstein, learn how to make a link. And, the fact that you're so upset to learn your hero is gay, says all I need to know about you. Sorry to break it to ya. but he's a cock chugger from the old days. He used to swallow Ginsberg's jizz in the hopes it would give him some talent as a writer and poet. Which of course he did not have any of. He's not even a conservative--don't ya' know that? Sorry, I keep forgetting you're a child.
@JosephCa64 Hey, idiot, youtube changes any time entry to a link. I gave you the title so you can find the clip and then go to the ten minute mark to see the part that's pertinent here. So again, go to "Michael Savage - Top Ten Liberal Callers of All Time!!" and hit the ten minute mark.
Do you know who I am? No, so don't pretend to. You can puff yourself up with your internet tough guy act but you're a punk looking for an outlet to puff out your chest. You're full of shit. Get over yourself.
@ChiTownIsaac55 HA! First off, how can you tell where he is in that pic?. Secondly, yeah, he might go to places where all his lackeys are, but if you saw him on the street and called him out, he'd shit his pants. He's a little nibbish, he's a dumpy little nothing, pencil neck. He's the radio tough guy. He's the punk, who talks tough on a radio, but isn't man enough to say anything to anyone's face. He barely even ever has guests in his studio-every wonder why?
@JosephCa64 You have no facts, nothing of substance to contribute. It's all conjecture from you. I showed you a video to show you that you're a full-of-shit liar and all you do is continue your BS. Do you not have eyes? Did you not see the video of him talking TO SOMEBODY's FACE???? He's the one with the show, you're the nobody going after him on Youtube. You can't deal with that so instead of challenging him you challenge what, his sexuality? I'm done here.
@ChiTownIsaac55 You showed me a picture of him wearing hat! There's no one else in the picture but him. And, yeah I do challenge him on his sexuality, because he said vile things about gay people and he says vile things about Muslims(funny you didn't dare even try to answer that one) he continually lies through his teeth( as he is in this video) and demonizes black people as lazy thieves. He's a loathsome, racist piece of shit and if you admire him, so are you. Feel free to fuck off now.
@PrisonerNumber9653 It means he got somewhere with his beliefs, as he has a strong following and has published best-sellers for a worthy cause. You call it hate and lies; I call it spreading awareness. It's just that you're to idealistic to realize that some of the stuff you call bigotry is truth.
@ChiTownIsaac55 There's no honor in "getting somewhere" spreading hate. There's no cause more UNWORTHY than selling his books full of bigotry and lies. I don't call it hate and lies, it IS hate and lies. There's NO truth in bigotry. His hate of Muslims is NOT based in truth. His hate of gays is NOT based in truth. His hate of blacks, of women, of liberals, NOT BASED IN ANY TRUTH AT ALL.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Why "is it" hate and lies? Are all the former Muslims publishing books about the evils of Islam lying too? Do the numbers(15K+ terrorist attacks since 9/11) lie too? He's against the gay agenda and gay marriage, not Gays. Marriage and family is sacred to some of us and we don't want to see it get mutilated.
He declared that he thinks a black man (Herman Cain) could save America. He supports Allen West, another black man. You're spreading the hate based on mis-information.
@ChiTownIsaac55 Yes, those publishing vicious attacks on Muslims ARE lying. Where you got that number is a mystery, the description of "terrorist" seems to blow in the wind, and NONE of those have anything to do with the average American Muslim whose safety is threatened by the sick bigotry you're supporting, any more than the average Christian should be blamed for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Arabs by our government.
The "gay agenda" is equality, and it IS hate of gays to oppose it.
@ChiTownIsaac55 Marriage and family ARE important, and you're INSULTING them by pretending Jim Crow laws are "protecting the family". Name ONE FAMILY that will be harmed by marriage equality. What marriage will be "destroyed" if the gay couple down the block is married.
Herman Cain is a radical right nut job not qualified for the Bugtussle City Council, and Allen West is a vicious thug. It does NOT reduce his racism to back a couple of tokens, NEITHER of whom truly supports racial justice.
@ChiTownIsaac55 And while we're on the topic, explain to me why Savage said we should drop an atomic bomb on the haj to mecca. This is someone you admire??
@JosephCa64 Yes, they DO encourage people to do stupid things. And YES, we should be right in their face criticizing what they SAY AND DO.
I have absolutely no reason to believe any of them is gay, and couldn't possibly care less. A person's orientation is their own business, and shouldn't be used against anyone. It's wrong when someone's career and life are destroyed because they're gay...ANYONE'S.
There's plenty, MORE than enough, to bash these hate-mongers on. If they're gay, so what?
@PrisonerNumber9653 I don't care if he's gay or not, that's not the issue. The issue is his attacks on gay people. When you do that(AND YOU'RE GAY!) you deserve to be outted(period).
@JosephCa64 Absolute BULLSHIT! Oppose his attacks, blast away, he deserves it. I don't care if someone's totally straight or a flaming queer, they EQUALLY deserve the criticism for what they SAY, and equally deserve their privacy to be respected. NOBODY deserves to be outed, it only harms the cause of equality.
And unless you've actually had sex with these people, this dopey old meme about homophobes all being latent homosexuals was a ball of bunk all along.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Sorry, you couldn't be anymore wrong. It's people like Savage and Ted Haggard, who promote hatred and violence against gay people by calling them ungodly, abominations, sodmites, etc. They deserve to be outted and ridiculed and I'll do it every chance I get. You don't like it? Feel free to fuck off.
@JosephCa64 Congratulations, your own massive ego matters more to you than promoting equality and justice. I swear, assholes like you harm the cause more than a boatload of bigots like this.
WHY does it make you angry to hear this bigotry? Because it's wrong.
And you think the answer to wrong is more wrong.
Again...NOBODY deserves to have their PRIVATE life "outed". People DIE because of this, homophobia KILLS, it's not some game. Say why what he says is wrong, all day till you drop, I do.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Dude, you've got your head so far up your ass, you don't even know what you're saying. Michael Savage, who was/is gay, calls gay people sodomites, who will burn in hell. And, I'm the one spreading homophobia? LMFAO! And, again I'm sorry when someone spreads gay hate(and is himself gay), I'll call him out on it. People have a right to know. Had this hateful little shrew never said what he said, I'd have no interest in his sexuality. But he did say it, so he's fair game.
@JosephCa64 I call bullshit on you now. You pretend to be a gay rights advocate, yet use the term "Savage, who is/was gay".
There is no such thing as a former homosexual, NOBODY can be described as "they were gay, but now they're not."
YES, he says horrible things about gay people, and THOSE should be harshly criticized. Your vile personal attacks DETRACT from that, and pretend that homosexuality is something of which a person should be ashamed.
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're missing the same point again, which makes me wonder how bright you are. It has nothing to do with his sexuality, it has to do with his credibility(or lack thereof). If you say vile things like that and spread hate, it's absolutely ok to let people know that this person is gay and is saying such things to cover up his gayness. That's what it's about. Again, you might not be bright enough to grasp it. And again, I'll say whatever I like. You don't like it. FUCK OFF!
@PrisonerNumber9653 Right, I'm a lowlife. And it's never OK to out someone? Really? When closeted gay Republicans try to pass laws banning gay marriage, gay adoption and even gay people working as teachers, it's wrong to out them?? I DARE YOU TO ANSWER THAT. This is an issue that extends way beyond this piece of dirt of Savage. Again, you either don't know about it or you're not bright to understand it.
@JosephCa64 NO, it is not EVER OK to out someone. The laws banning gay marriage and adoption and the rest were unconstitutional and immoral, THAT is the reason to oppose them. The PRIVATE life of the legislators is not.
Dare me to answer? I HAVE ANSWERED.
Yes, the issue extends very deeply, there are LOTS of examples, and it's DEAD WRONG under ANY circumstance to out someone, EVER.
I know this issue very well, I understand it fine. You lower yourself to their level with tactics like this.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Well, again, skippy, you miss the point. I didn't out anyone. I didn't out the Republican legislators, who did such things. I don't go around investigating people's private lives. I have better things to do. But, other people have outted them. They're out. So, it's not a secret anymore, so why is it wrong to mention? We should all just pretend their not self loathing homosexuals, spreading hate and violence?
@JosephCa64 what BULLSHIT! No, we do NOT ignore that they are spreading hate and violence. We DO mind our own damn business. It is NOBODY'S business whether any of the people you mention are gay (and it remains a hysterically unlikely thing that any, much less all, is)
What they SAY is wrong, and it's no no more wrong if they're straight, gay, assexual, or sleeping with space aliens or their houseplants. Their MESSAGE is wrong, their private life is just that...private.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Sure, self loathing homosexuals, who's self loathing is the EXACT reason they spout hatred and violence. It is the absolute cause of it. But, we can't mention it? Sorry, skippy. It's the equal of a jew being a nazi or a black man being in the KKK! I'll call them out every chance I get. Again, you don't like, go fuck a duck!
@JosephCa64 I don't care the cause of it, it's all excuses. It's also a hoary old myth, this business of everyone who's outspoken against equality being a secret latent homosexual.
It's not the same as a black person in the KKK, because everyone can see that someone's black, for better or worse. Sexuality is private unless someone chooses for it not to be. CHOOSES. That's a right every person, even really crappy people, ought to have.
@PrisonerNumber9653 I never said everyone, but there are some we know, Savage, Larry Craig, Ted Haggard. Fuck 'em. I have no sympathy for them. They get what they deserve, what they have put forth has come back to them. And, for the 50th time it's not about their being gay. It's about credibility. If someone publicly damned the KKK and was privately a member of that group, it's wrong to point that out?!?! HA! That's insane and you know it is. Check mate, my friend, game over.
@JosephCa64 God, you're being an idiot. It obviously IS about his being gay (you THINK) because you're talking about outing him.
if you were ONLY talking about what MATTERS, which is what he says and why it's wrong, nobody would be bothering to complain.
Yeah, it's roughly the same to compare someone CHOOSING to join the KKK, and someone being gay, which is NOT chosen. If they're criticized, they can quit the KKK. Nobody ever quit being gay.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Has nothing to do with his gayness, or outting him. I would never out anyone. I didn't out Savage/Weiner. He's been outted for decades now. Everyone knows it. It's the worst kept secret in show biz! But, when you spread hatred and violence toward gay people, when you call them sodomites, who will burn in hell, and you yourself are gay, as Savage/Weiner is, all bets are off. For the 50th time, if u don't like it, feel free to fuck off! Your inane yammerings will not stop me.
@JosephCa64 Again with the name. What trash. He has NOT been "outed for decades", people have been CLAIMING he is gay, with the most ridiculous lack of evidence imaginable. NO, asshole, everyone does NOT "know it", everyone knows a few lowlifes CLAIM it.
"All bets are off" you mean you want to be just as immoral, just as nasty, just as hateful as Savage. You want to sink to his level.
NO, I do NOT like it, nor will I 'fuck off'. Assholes like you HARM the cause of justice.
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're sounding more and more like exactly what you are--a fan of Michael Savage! And he has been outted for decades. I work in the publishing biz, San Fan is a big part of my biz. I know the people there, everyone knows about him. He's gay, or he was, or whatever. Really. I don't care. For the 100th time, you slow witted boob. It has nothing to do with his sexuality. It has to do with hypocrisy. You're just not bright enough to grasp these things.
@JosephCa64 Oh, bullshit! You think NOBODY who hates and fights their life long AGAINST bigotry is REALLY against it unless they support your sick outing of people? YOU have shown yourself to be quite dim, there is a LARGE part of the gay and allied movement VERY opposed to "outing" anyone.
He has NOT been "outed" for decades, a few MORONS have claimed he is gay with ZERO evidence.
It doesn't have to do with "hypocrisy," it has to do with you sinking to his level, making ALL gays look bad.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Right, a few morons! Like Alan Ginsberg, Lawrence Ferlinghetti and every single person involved in the SF publishing world! Some of the smartest people I've ever met. And, of course you''re . . . ahhh . . . not! LMFAO! For the 50th time, I didn't out him. Nor did I attack him for his sexuality, I simply stated a truth. He's gay, or he was and he's vile piece of shit. And for the 50th time, if u don't like it FUCK OFF!
@JosephCa64 You lying sack of SHIT! you ARE outing him, you're going around proclaiming WITH ZERO EVIDENCE that someone who is not openly gay is gay. That's not EVER OK. You ARE attacking his sexuality, you ARE saying it's wrong and bad.
People's sexual orientation shouldn't matter AT ALL, you're saying it does. You claim you are "stating a truth", where the hell is the EVIDENCE? You're "stating" a rumor worthy of junior high pep club.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Everyone in the SF publishing business knows he was gay back in the day. Again, I didn't out him. Savage has been trying to hide these rumors for years and amazingly, he uses the exact same language you do, rather than just ad it what he is. I mean, would it be wrong for me to say Anderson Copper is gay? Or Richard Simmons? Everyone knows their gay just like everyone who knew Michael Weiner back in the day knew he was gay, at least back then he was.
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're accomplishing nothing more than letting me post it again and again for more and more people to see. SAVAGE IS A CLOSETED SELF LOATHING HOMOSEXUAL!!!! So, I thank you for your continued and rampant dullardry, which has allowed me to post it 50 times than I otherwise would have!!!! Nice job, skippy! Thanks again for the helping hand! You want to try for another 50? HA!
@JosephCa64 BULLSHIT! That is a LIE. What you OUGHT to post is that Savage is a hateful bigot.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS GAY OR NOT. Have you slept with him?
You think decency towards others is "dull"? That's no surprise, just as Savage thinks hate and venom is "exciting" and "cool". You're lowering yourself to his level.
I've known people beaten into weeks-long hospital stays solely because they were gay. This is not a "ha". There's nothing funny about it.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Didn't say it was funny, nor do I wish for it to happen. But, the reason it does happen is because of guys like Savage. You know it as well as I do, Prisoner, that there are plenty of people, who;d like to kick the shit out of Savage and his being a closeted homosexual would be way down the list of reasons for that. He puts out a violent, hateful vibe and I would be none too surprised, now would I care, if it came back at him.
@PrisonerNumber9653 " there is a LARGE part of the gay and allied movement VERY opposed to "outing" anyone."
haha, I am gay and I know this is completely false as a fact.... I am not a flamer though so I am the target of hate from fellow gay people because I don't act like Ru Paul...
when the hell are you miserable breeders going to stop acting like you know anything about the gay community? (which is a big fat scam)
@JosephCa64 I am NOT a "fan" of this bastard. I hate his vile, rancid trash as much as ANYONE possibly could. I hate not just his homophobia, but his racism, his vicious bigotry towards Muslims, his sick attacks on teachers and education, his vomit about global warming being a "hoax," his crude sexism, one could go on and on. Mostly I loath his support for greed and inequality, attacking the poor as "deserving" their misery.
And guess what? I would hate it NO LESS if he's gay or straight.
@PrisonerNumber9653 A light needs to be shone on such hypocrites. Because what they do leads to gay people being bullied, beaten and sometimes killed. But, that's ok with you? And, I'm the bad guy?
@JosephCa64 And you are NOT "shining a light" on his bigotry. Criticize the HELL out of it.
His personal sexuality is NOT a party of this, and the fact that gays ARE threatened like this merely points out how truly wrong it is to "out" ANYBODY. Do you really think it serves our cause if you out someone and then he gets killed, making ALL equality advocates look like trash?
NO, you son of a bitch, the hate is NOT ok with me, and you goddam KNOW it. Oppose the hate, do NOT contribute to it.
@PrisonerNumber9653 The point you've been missing all along is, I didn't out Michael Savage, wasn't me. People have known about it for decades. It's no secret. And, again the staggering stupidity you exhibit in accusing me of promoting hatred? I'm for gay rights, I'm for gay marriage, I'm for gays in the military and Michael Savage thinks their sodomites, who will burn in hell. But, I'm spreading hate?
@JosephCa64 That's bullshit. People have not "known" it, people have repeated a RUMOR. Unless you slept with him, you don't know.
You goddam well ARE promoting hatred! EVERY time this happens, it harms the equality movement, it makes gays and their allies look vindictive and nasty and hateful, and lets these bigots become victims.
Savage deserves the most harsh of criticism because of what he says. EVERYTHING we stand for says sexual orientation doesn't matter, but you're ignoring that.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Right, well, we're going in circles. I think calling out hypocrites and traitors to their people is fair game. And, I'll do it every chance I get. You can play the false equivalence game all you like. None of these people have been violently attacked. But, attacks on gay youth rise and rise and rise, because of people like Savage. So that's it. You don't like it---FUCK OFF!
@JosephCa64 You seem to have no conscience whatsoever, if you think it'll help, do it, no matter how much damage it does to somebody. "Fair game", what a load of shit. A person's sexuality is NEVER fair gam
FUCK WELFARE CUNTS.
CripplerCrossface001 1 week ago
Okay Mr.Just Keep It Simple,The Time Can Come When You'll be Needing Help
And Guess Who'll Be The First One Asking For help!!!
Don't Speak Harshly Of The Poor.
Remember,You Came Into This Old World
Cold;Naked;Hungry and Wet!!!
kingbushwickthe33rd 1 month ago
No,I was unable to serve because I couldn't pass the physical 30 years ago.
But I had two nephews who served in Iraq and one of my neice's husband served in Iraq.
What Did You Do???
kingbushwickthe33rd 1 month ago
1:38 Is that Saturday Night Live Alum, Rachel Dratch? She may not have been the prettiest woman you have ever seen, but she is a decent talent. And I am pretty sure she works.
grungefreak10 1 month ago
Besides being a typical chickenhawk neocon draft dodger,Michael Savage woulda been a perfect Kapo at a Nazi Concentration!!!
Plus theyt call him"Candy"because he gives it up so suhweet!!!
I'm sure that he'll be having a"Gay Old Time"tomorrow night at the bathhouse!!!
Just remember Weenie,there'll be a special place in Hell and Matthew Sheppard's waitin'for ya!!!
kingbushwickthe33rd 1 month ago
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@kingbushwickthe33rd
"Besides being a typical chickenhawk neocon draft dodger,Michael Savage woulda been a perfect Kapo at a Nazi Concentration!!!"
"The smart people would never been in the army." - Dr. James Watson, his IQ > your entire family tree.
Romansteel13 1 month ago
@kingbushwickthe33rd
Did you serve in the military.
Or, are you just crapping out of your mouth?
charlesvan13 1 month ago
Im so glad im a conservative
M1911A1pwns 2 months ago
I am not a liberal nor a conservative, but I DO NOT give any type of money to charity. Why? Because I am a tax payer, and some part of my money goes to fund welfare, food stamps, and low income housing supplements. That is charity in my opinion. Now, I will donate clothes and things I don't need anymore.
MrJustkeepitsimple 2 months ago
so how can we help our youth evolve??
TheTechController 2 months ago
@R39Jon I know what you are saying. I personally know people who cant work for the reasons you gave. If they could work they would. I know people who are on disability and work part time too. It's hard I know what you mean.
waterhead001 3 months ago
the welfarians are getting pissed... lol
MrSpemat 3 months ago
@MrSpemat I can't stand the welfare culture, but I find it amusing that so many fellow conservatives have no clue that Michael Savage, AKA Michael Weiner, is a homosexual. I read his semi-autobiographical 1983 book “Vital Signs” which is about a New York Jewish guy, who fights his homosexual inclinations. Then there's his letter to beat poet Allen Ginsburgh where he said he wanted to "photograph the walls of his rectum."
He's a liberal homo masquerading as a conservative for the almighty dollar!
BoSoxnation1972 2 months ago
@BoSoxnation1972 one can be a homo without being a freaking leftist nutcase...
MrSpemat 2 months ago
@MrSpemat Read his books. He is a smart guy, no question, but he figured out what sells, and just plays a character on his radio show. That was my point.
BoSoxnation1972 2 months ago
@BoSoxnation1972 - so you claim he's a homosexual despite the fact that he has had two wives - first one he divorced because she refused to have children, and the second one he has two children from and is still married to her? Doesn't sound much like a Homosexual to me...?
annoyboyPictures 2 weeks ago
Typo. Not writers bums....just bums...
Sobernic1982 4 months ago
@hyuga4477 The business of being on welfare can be quite lucrative. I've got writers bums all around me who live high on the hog smoking and watch tv all day, while I work my ass off to keep a roof over my head....
Sobernic1982 4 months ago 2
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I think his story is made up. I have known a few people that needed Welfare and they got it. They didnt get anywhere close to 2000 dollars tho...not even 1000 or 500 or 200...the money you get from welfare is a joke most of the time. its nothing to live on.
hyuga4477 5 months ago
I think his story is made up. I have known I few people that needed Welfare and they got it. They didnt get anywhere close to 2000 dollars tho...not even 1000 or 500 or 200...the money you get from welfare is a joke most of the time. its nothing to live on.
hyuga4477 5 months ago
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talltom1973 5 months ago
@controversyking Can i quote that on facebook?
007chucknorris007 5 months ago
Several years ago, I used to sell medical supplies for a well known provider (starts with Z) and made next to nothing! Anyway, I was in SF working..I had forgot the lunch my wife made for me. I had about $5 in my pocket and went to the Box for a cheap tasteless lunch. Outside was a "homeless" guy asking for help. While eating this garbage, I saw him pull out a bank-roll...he must have had 3 or 4 hundred bucks! Busting my ass for nothing...and this "bum" had more money than me! Shameless!
DickLodge68 5 months ago
Most of his 'clients' were black. And lazy.
chinafakeeggs 5 months ago
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The US was supposed to have a limited government b/c the founders knew political power attracts swarms of crooks, demagogues & despots as surely as horse manure attracts swarms of horseflies.
Politics was never meant to be a profession, ike diapers, should be changed often & for the same reasons ! Giving this Obama access to ur wallet is like giving a dog access to ur refrigerator !
onstageagain 6 months ago
@controversyking Winston Churchill say that?
JonHall129 6 months ago
@JonHall129 Yah, he did.
ndzapruder 5 months ago
@controversyking I guess I'm heartless. And damned proud of it. Liberals can call me whatever they want.
hooplablahblahblah 6 months ago 21
@hooplablahblahblah Now thats what Im talking about!
TheyHearUsNow 5 months ago
:28 whats the deal with the fruit in the picture? I mean It's like going to a drug house and finding vitamins next to some Meth.
Paladin1warrior 6 months ago
I like the photo of the fatso b!tch with a cigarette in one hand all the food to feed her starving face in front of her representing Savage's typical 'client'....lmfao
steelersfanhawaii 6 months ago 11
Instead of going left to right and back, you better just have common sense that you apply to each situation. Running into cover of any mob, left, right, liberal, socialist, fascist, communist is the clear proof of yours and others like you either immaturity or a practical cynicism.
klinok19 6 months ago
Instead of going left to right and back, you better just have common sense that you apply to each situation. Running into cover of any mob, left, right, liberal, socialist, fascist, communist is the clear proof of yours and others like you either immaturity or a practical cynicism.
klinok19 6 months ago
You don't start out with a full house full of furniture, you have to work and EARN the money for that. No employer would ever give someone 3K starting off just so their employee can live in a "normal home". I know people that work their asses off and don't have a full house of furniture.
CRTV1982 6 months ago
@CRTV1982 Which is truly sick and wrong. NOBODY should have to "work their ass off," especially as MILLIONS want and cannot find work. The way we do things is rigged for the rich to get richer, and for the poor to get screwed. We have to change, dramatically, the way wealth is distributed.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Here is the problem though, wealth is not distributed unless you the government takes the money from someone and gives it to someone else. Yes, some of that has happened here in the US. And yes most people do not understand that when you start making all of these regulations on the market that it does rig the deck for the larger more established businesses and makes it harder for people starting out.
CRTV1982 6 months ago
@CRTV1982 That's just not true, it's distributed NOW by low wages, unemployment, and greed to the TOP. Of COURSE we've distributed some to the poor, but it's far, far too little. When the balance lurches even more to the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, that is immoral and unsustainable.
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RadarGuidedVermin 6 months ago
@RadarGuidedVermin Spare us your KKK hate, and I'm not gay.
If you're not interested, why are you obsessively following every conversation I've ever taken part in?
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Not interested. Try a gay chat room, you'll have better luck.
RadarGuidedVermin 6 months ago
If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart.
If you're still a liberal after 40, you have no brains.
fliegeroh 6 months ago
@fliegeroh No truer words have ever been spoken. Well done good sir!
Xenda 6 months ago
@fliegeroh I guess I never had a heart. Well, atleast I have brains.
CRTV1982 6 months ago
man savage makes total sense.. this shit in america is just plain sad .. wow.
tonytonytee 6 months ago
I don't believe Savage for a moment. His salary was $5000 yet start up money for welfare was $3250? In today's dollars, that would put start up money between $15,000 and $20,000.
Get out of here with this garbage.
rfwelsh 7 months ago
@rfwelsh
No, it is true. Savage is about 65 or so. When he was in his 20s - his "hippie" curtains - it was in the 1960s. There was the Left-winger rent control in NY that destroyed communities, so he probably got a cheap apartment. $5,000 was fine for a young man at that time, even in NYC.
yukiomishima246 7 months ago
@yukiomishima246 The sickest of lies. Rent control never destroyed any communities.
There's a lot that's truly rancid about this Nazi, that he's cooked up the moronic Archie Bunker hate of "hippies" is just pathetic. He attacks freedom, women's rights, the anti-war movement, those who saw the hypocrisy of politicians with pockets full of marlboros and a fridge full of Budweiser railing about the "evils" of marijuana, and how immoral the racism and greed of our society was. We need MORE hippies.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@USAGymnast You are the DEFINITION of irresponsible. You're the single most irresponsible worm I've ever encountered in my life. Numero uno.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast And tell me, Bozo, what happens to the CHILDREN while she "gets off her lazy ass and works"?? Where do THEY go?
That's the problem, you NEVER have a CLUE about the real world, you listen to right wing hate radio as they viciously attack the victims of poverty, you NEVER have a clue what they really have to deal with. Fine, she gets a job, and her kids just sit in the apartment all day with the TV on? Do you have an INKLING of what decent child care costs?
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 it never dawns on you that she should of waited for MARRIAGE before popping out kids. then she could stay home with the children while her dutiful husband provided their income. everybody wins nobody loses. welcome to the real world actions have consequences. stop making excuses for people
amyhuk 6 months ago
@amyhuk Please explain how a child is supposed to eat your moralistic sermonizing. Can your puritanical crap pay a doctor bill?
This horseshit "Tut tut, you should wait for marriage!" does exactly ZERO to help anybody. It not only does NOT prevent unwanted pregnancies, it INCREASES them. If you're worried about unwanted pregnancies, you should support things that actually reduce them, honest comprehensive sex education and family planning. Which the right is CUTTING left and right.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 she has SEVENTEEN children by at least a dozen different fathers. THAT is what you get when you dont set societal boundries. look i know people are human and they will make mistakes but SEVENTEEN children by 12 different fathers is NOT AN ACCIDENT!!! stop making excusses for people and demand they accept the consequences of their own actions
amyhuk 6 months ago
@amyhuk Horseshit. "Societal boundries" have nothing to do with it. You have taken one extreme and isolated case and decided everyone's like that.
You aren't going to make her "accept the consequences", you're going to punish the children, and they didn't do anything wrong.
Again, were there better sex education in schools, which is opposed by the right, and better family planning, AGAIN opposed by the right, who ALSO oppose a woman's right to choose, this is a lot less likely to happen.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 lol...i think she had a little TOO much "sex education" the fact remains if society didnt REWARD her for having children she would of stopped at two...how many children do YOU have? and why? mmmm hmmm mmm hmmm...........you JUST proved my fucking point now didnt you sunshine. dia duit =)
amyhuk 6 months ago
@amyhuk NOBODY wins from your looking down on people who don't meet your standards of "morality". If nobody had sex until their "dutiful husband" (vomit) had a high enough income, most of the world's people wouldn't exist.
You have no CLUE about the real world, and your greed and hogwash absolutely DO have consequences. I'm not "making excuses," you're punishing people for small mistakes FOR LIFE, and punishing their children, who've done nothing wrong, often to the point of death.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 money is what money does. when their was one wage earner society wide goods and services where half what they are today. and that is taking into account inflation. it would be like DOUBLING your current income...wouldnt you like that? having twice the amount of money you have now? or if you arent the providing type...wouldnt you like to be able to live off of half what you currently need to survive? either way its win win. it is liberal politics that fucked everything up
amyhuk 6 months ago
@amyhuk No, NOBODY wins from your cheap moralizing and sermons, which AGAIN do absolutely nothing whatsoever to reduce unwanted pregnancies.
And no, NOTHING was fucked up by liberal politics. We didn't create human sexuality, or poverty. We're merely providing reasonable ways of addressing both...while so far you've provided nothing that's proven effective in the slightest against either. Just excuses to NOT help those in need, which is just plain wrong any way you slice it.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 i have seen the light. you liberals were right all along. we should encourage unwed mothers to sleep with as many men as possible and reward them with bigger and bigger welfare checks at the tax payers expense. what was i thinking? THAT is what is best for society. you me EVERYBODY involved ESPECIALLY the children. it is a scientific fact a child raised not knowing who its father is will always be more succcesful in life than one who was raised and loved by their own.
amyhuk 6 months ago
and no we should NEVER condemn any action that is counter productive to society we should encourage and nurture anti social behavior. rapists and murderers are just misunderstood its those DAMNED CHRISTIANS...THEY ARE TO BLAME!!!
amyhuk 6 months ago
@USAGymnast I love the truth, I am great with the truth. It is a FACT that it's not profitable to have more children. I know you're VERY stupid, but try to follow along. If you get a LITTLE more money, but your costs increase far MORE than the amount of your income increase...THAT IS NOT A PROFIT.
You want to punish children for the "sins" of the mother (never the father) and you can shove the SHIT of "get off their lazy asses and work" right up YOUR ass. These are VICTIMS, they are not "lazy"
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast My God you are stupid. So, a single mom who didn't finish high school because she had to start working can just quit her job and start her own business...
with NOTHING to invest in this business, with NO hope of it making enough in profits INSTANTLY to keep her family fed or the rent paid.
You're truly brainwashed. You have no CLUE what the real world is, you just think "free markets" are a magic wand that cures all ills.
In the real world, "Free markets" are an evil.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast You have no morals AT ALL. No conscience AT ALL. It's not freedom to support fascism and bigotry, and get to just MAKE UP that it's "moral". Some things are just immoral, whether you like it or not. You can cling to your fascism and your sick greed, but there's nothing remotely moral about them. Nothing.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Liar. Freedom and liberty are distant STRANGERS to you. Greed isn't freedom. Inequality is NOT liberty. When one isn't free, NOBODY is free. While millions have no liberty, we as a nation have no liberty.
Capitalism is the OPPOSITE of freedom. Greed is the OPPOSITE of liberty.
It's a LIE that it's not compassion, humanity, the right thing to do. How do people with ZERO conscience get created? I don't know what disease destroyed your humanity, but you're a stain on the human race.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast NO, asshole, NOT EVERYBODY can go on student loans. There are MILLIONS unable to go to college because of lack of financial resources. AND, loans pay ONLY for college costs, how does a single mom FEED HER FAMILY while going to school on these magical student loans you think, falsely, are accessible to everyone?
You're a woman, yet STILL follow the despicable sexism of blaming the woman for unwanted pregnancies? You are brainwashed. "Sucks to be you"? FUCK OFF! What a bum you are!
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast He investigated nursing home fraud, and saved a lot of lives in the process.
THAT is the purpose of education, to use the gifts God's given us to HELP OTHER PEOPLE. Not just to get obscenely rich.
Your mindset WOULD destroy the human race. Inequality at the level you're spinning for isn't anywhere close to sustainable. NOBODY is making a profit off educating all our children, or protecting the environment. Humans exist because decent people REJECT your sick mindset.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast No, I'm not condemning ANYBODY. And no, it is NOT the only reason "almost all" students go to college. Not even vaguely CLOSE. Many who ARE studying business or medicine or law, which WILL lead to well-paying jobs, are doing so NOT just to make money but to HELP PEOPLE. I have a close friend who (after getting a double-major in history and political sciences) graduated with honors from law school. He could have made six figures instantly, INSTEAD he went to work for the state AG.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast NOBODY should have less! YOU are the one wanting MILLIONS to not only have less than others, but less than they need to SURVIVE! What right do YOU have to see children who are sick and cannot afford to see a doctor and say "the person with 14 sports cars is more important than you are"?
What right do you have to kill people with greed?
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Wow are you stupid. No, jackass, they turned AWAY from the definition of socialism.
Tell me, on what page of Marx's Manifesto are gulags described? Socialism BY DEFINITION is not a dictatorship. Stalin and his ilk were NOT socialists OR Marxists.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast The most VILE of lies. YOU support slavery, not me. Forcing people to work shit jobs for slave wages is slavery. The workers getting their fair share of the wealth THEY CREATE is the opposite of slavery. Polar opposite.
You God damn well ARE responsible for other people, we all are. Claiming it should be supported for you to selfishly hoard wealth for yourself while stomping over the bodies of children YOU put into poverty and hopelessness is sick, just sick. YOU have the disorder.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast And it's not truth, it's the sickest of lies, and proves you have no functioning brain. Liberalism isn't a "mental disorder", it's common human decency. Not only is this a lie from a racist hate radio Nazi, but it's an insult to those who really DO have mental disorders...which, I suppose, you ALSO think is "irresponsible" of them.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast What SHIT!! This has NOTHING to do with "the right decisions". Our system helps the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, it has NOTHING to do with "decisions". Children don't "decide" to be in poverty. People don't "decide" to get sick or hurt or laid off. Your vile LIES that the poor are just people who "drop out and smoke dope" is sick trash, and NOTHING about "responsibility" is in poverty. Some of the most responsible people alive are poor, and the rich are IRRESPONSIBLE.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Liar, I'm a very intelligent and well-educated person. You are a clueless tool of evil. YES, asshole, physical labor IS work. The idea that sitting in an air-conditioned office moving money around on a computer to screw other people and make yourself wealthy is "work" is idiocy. Someone invests millions in grain futures, a hailstorm wipes out the crops in half of Kansas, prices go up and you make 400,000 dollars over night. If that's "work", I'm the Easter Bunny.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast "Good paying jobs" is NOT the reason one gets an education, jackass. You bet your ASS we should be paying so that EVERYONE has access to education, not just the rich.
You ARE a whore! You think anything's fine if it makes money, NOTHING is of any value if it doesn't make some corporation wealthy. That's the DEFINITION of whoring.
This BULLSHIT of "consequences" for human beings having sex is fascist trash. The rich don't "take care of themselves," WE take care of them!
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast My God. My God. You're without the slightest conscience at all. Without any morals, any humanity. You're just a Nazi. It's insane. The idea that you should ask why you put human need ahead of luxury is subhuman. What a pity you can't spend some time in the shoes of the people you hate for being victims of the vile failure of capitalism.
It IS the job of EVERY person to care for others. If people have to be forced to FOLLOW THE LAW, that's their choice.
You are truly just scum.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast And it's not a lie, it's a fact. They ARE victims.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast BULLSHIT!!! Abstinence is a PROVEN FAILURE. That's not responsibility, it's sermonizing and it DOES NOT WORK. Responsibility is living in the real world where people do have sex, there's not a DAMN thing wrong with it but you do so in a responsible way. It's a LIE to say they promote promiscuity, and a rancid LIE to say they promote abortions, they PREVENT abortions, they do NOT promote them.
And no, you piece of shit, they would NOT "go out of business" without abortion.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Liar! The CDC most certainly does NOT say anything of the sort.
EVERY HUMAN BEING ALIVE is deserving of health care, of enough to eat, of decent housing, of educational opportunity. There is NO SUCH THING as a person who doesn't deserve these rights.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast It absolutely IS obscene.
There are virtually NO addicts who don't want treatment. The problem isn't people choosing addiction, NOBODY chooses addiction. The problem is lack of access to treatment.
NOBODY should be tested on their job without probable cause.
People on welfare are NOT bums, you bastard! And to think it's OK to violate their right to privacy is sick. Just sick. It's cruel, immoral, degrading fascism. And who the fuck are YOU to tell them not to smoke a joint?
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast You don't have a problem with someone having 14 sports cars in their garage while people are DYING because of lack of access to health care?
You have a disease. This total lack of any human conscience, putting sick greed ahead of human life, it's an illness. It's sick.
It's a LIE to say I'm "jealous", this isn't about ME. It's a LIE to say I'm a "Maoist", and socialism would lead to a far BETTER life and NOBODY in the life of the people in poverty now. NOBODY.
You WANT them there.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast God, you're an idiot. No, they can NOT just go get a better job. Do you really think someone who's worked flipping burgers or sweeping floors can just walk in and get a bank VP position? Sure, they can "get another job", flipping burgers across the street. FOR THE SAME SHITTY PAY.
It's a pathetic LIE to claim they don't pay taxes, they pay FAR more of their money in taxes than the wealthy. Sales tax, property tax.
The wealthy don't "earn" obscene luxury, and NOBODY "earns" poverty.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast HORSESHIT!!! They ARE slaves! They can NOT choose to quit those jobs, their childrens' LIVES depend on it, their HOME and HEALTH CARE depend on it. They ARE slaves.
They are NOT at the bottom of the barrel, you Nazi. They are human beings with EVERY SINGLE BIT as much value as the bosses fucking them over. They God damn well ARE victims, and they are FAR, FAR, FAR more noble and virtuous than you will ever be.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast More lies. Your ignorance is incredible. YES, jackass, millions ARE stuck in lousy schools, NO child chose to be in a crappy school. They do NOT have choices.
You bet your ASS we as a society should pay for higher education, and whether or not businesses want to hire those grads has ZERO to do with it. The purpose of the human mind is NOT to be a factory tool. A person who studies nothing but business is NOT an educated person, not at all.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast And I'm not talking about "charity", I'm talking about HUMAN RIGHTS. A person feeding his children shouldn't be "charity", nor should health care or education or housing. These are HUMAN RIGHTS that every person deserves.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Fuck off, I'm not moving anywhere. I did NOT say Cuba was great, in fact it's suffering from widespread poverty because of the US embargo, and Castro's defiled the revolution with his iron grip on freedom for the people. In spite of this SOME things are still far better. No, Cuba does NOT have anywhere CLOSE to the amount of money the US has.
Yet their infant mortality rate is lower. How can that be?
NO, asshole, USA does NOT do more in charity, certainly NOT "far more".
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Then take Jersey Shore, take it far, far away from here. If people think that's culture, then capitalism has succeeded in destroying America, and once America's gone we'll leave nothing of value behind.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast The wealth CREATED BY WORKERS AND CONSUMERS, NOT THE BOSSES, NOT THE RICH! The idea that unless we let a few hoard most of the wealth in this nation we'll have no indoor plumbing or sanitation is idiotic. The OPPOSITE is true. NOW we have millions stuck in shitty neighborhoods with terrible sanitation services, what I'm talking about is NOBODY living in those conditions. The idea that it would lead to "no art" is a proven lie. It will lead to MORE, more medicine choices too.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Bullshit. There most certainly was NOT a lot less poverty. It was just ignored, as it is now.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@USAGymnast Despicable lies. The working poor contribute FAR more than you claim, and NOBODY contributes "nothing".
You ARE a bum. You support a system that helps the rich get richer while killing millions with crushing poverty no matter HOW hard they work. It's bullshit to call paying taxes "a gun to your head", and it's bullshit to say the workers don't produce wealth, they damn well DO produce the wealth, so do the consumers, but the BOSSES who do NOTHING to produce it keep most of it.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
This is an absolute lie--welfare does not hand out 3 grand for furniture. My God--Savage is lying through his teeth here. I too worked as a social worker, you get 4 to 500 bucks a month on welfare, that's it. These people live in hovels, tenements, absolute shit holes. I've been there. I've seen it. Savage is a sad, angry clown, most likely because he's a closeted, repressed homosexual. Go suck a dick, already. You tired old Queen. Racist pig. Shrew.
JosephCa64 7 months ago
@JosephCa64 You are absolutely correct about the part that Savage lied about welfare! I was going to say the same thing. People on welfare barely get by. Here's the sad about this whole thing. Most of Savage's viewers would honestly believe the lie that he said, and consider it as fact. Savage is again telling lies to his listeners to advance his political agenda.
PoliticsILove 7 months ago
@PoliticsILove Savage isn't even a conservative--he's a failed novelist and poet, who was a San Francisco liberal, who apparently was gay, way back when, His name isn't even Savage, It's Michael Weiner. Everything about the guy is a lie.
JosephCa64 7 months ago
@JosephCa64 haha i love people and their worthless gossip. Trying to paint a bad picture over someone you don't like over his beliefs..
Cytrome 6 months ago
@Cytrome Beliefs? Like dropping at atomic bomb on the Haj to Mecca? Or calling homosexuals sodomites, who will burn in hell? Yeah I don't like those "beliefs." And, as to the homosexual thing, you do Savage is gay, don't ya?? He's sad, old, pencil necked, chicken shit, coward, closeted queen, self loathing homosexual. Thank u. :}
JosephCa64 6 months ago
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@JosephCa64 so? what is your point?
amyhuk 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 UMAD?
Cytrome 6 months ago
@Cytrome A piece of trash like Savage isn't worth my anger. If I saw him on the street, I'd probably smack em--just to see him cry like the bitch ass punk he is.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 I'm fine with someone changing his name, and his sexual orientation is his own damn business.
There's plenty about him to hate. He promotes vicious bigotry, vile greed, and uses airwaves belonging to the public to attack one side of the political debate while hypocritically screaming about how awful it would be if the other side was able to refute his lies. Reagan killing Fairness Doctrine did and is doing massive damage to this nation.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 I'm certainly fine with anyone's sexual orientation too--but not when they call homosexuals, sodomites, who will burn in hell.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 I very much agree, it's a sick, vile lie and we should speak out against it whenever possible. Both as one who cares about gay people AND a Christian I find this sick trash of using faith as a weapon especially offensive.
That said, both the act of "outing" people and the rather hoary old myth that everyone or most people who are strongly homophobic are secretly gay probably doesn't help the cause a lot. And, even if they do, some things are just wrong.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
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JosephCa64 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 I'm NOT done with outting people, but I draw a line when a closeted homosexual like Michael Savage spouts vile hateful homophobic rhetoric. At that point, all bets are off and that person's hypocrisy must be shown. People like Savage and Ted Hagard and Larry Craig--all of whom are gay--encourage stupid people to do stupid things. Attacks on homosexuals are rising of late--pushback by mouth breathing wing nuts, who can't deal with the fact that gay marriage is being accepted.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 WTF? Where do you get your information? First off, he is not gay. Second of all, he is not homophobic. He's stated plenty of times that he's not anti-gay, just anti-gay marriage and not in favor of having the gay agenda shoved down his throat.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 Read up on his youth in San Francisco when h e hung around Ginsberg--find the "novel," he wrote about a man, who sounded remarkably lie him, who was struggling with his attraction towards men. Who writes a book like that? Short of that, listen to his voice!!! A DUH! He sounds like Liberace. And, he said live on TV that gays were sodomites, who would burn in hell. His words. That's where I got my info from--any other questions u need answered there, skippy?
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 He's addressed the picture with Ginsberg, there was a huge group of people skinny dipping there, the picture did not capture all of them. I've listened to him for years and have not caught one whiff of homosexuality. He's married with a family, I don't see why you have to go digging in a book in which you're assuming the character he wrote about was him.
We all know about that episode on his show. He's said things to the contrary hundreds of times. Stop reaching here.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 Right, right--skippy dipping with a bunch of gay guys!!! Not suspect at all! LMFAO! He's fruitier than a nutcake and everyone who knew him back then knows it. Sorry to break it to ya. He's a vile, racist, xenophobic, homophobic piece of shit on top of it. He's a worm, a chicken shit, loud mouth radio tough guy, who if you ever saw him in the street, he wouldn't dare say a word to anyone, lest he got his bitch ass kicked to the curb.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 @JosephCa64 You're a typical lib. You lost an argument so you resort to the usual name calling. To your last point, you lose again. Go to his "top ten callers" vid and hit the 10:00 mark. I don't give a damn what you think about his points, but he's not a bitch ass who's afraid to say what he thinks.
You're full of it Joseph and you know it.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 Lost an argument? To who? HA!! Listen, skippy, you're just a kid, who is obviously easily led astray by radio shitheads. It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. I'm in the publishing biz--I've been to SF a 100 times for expos and such. You ask anyone, who was around back then and they'll tell you the same, he was as gay as the came. Which is fine, unlike Mr. Weiner, i'm all for gay rights. But I can't stand a self loathing homosexual, which is exactly what Weiner is.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 And, I'll repeat, Michael Weiner, all 5 foot nothing and 100 pounds of him would never say a word to anyone's face. In fact, he has to hide in public, as many if not most of the rodeo clowns on radio do.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Are you dense. GO TO THE VIDEO AND WATCH HIM TALK OUT IN PUBLIC. You can say he's gay another 100 times, but it won't make it any more true. Understand that, Skippy? You're not getting anyone to laugh with you pathetic humor.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
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JosephCa64 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 Your link leads nowhere, Einstein, learn how to make a link. And, the fact that you're so upset to learn your hero is gay, says all I need to know about you. Sorry to break it to ya. but he's a cock chugger from the old days. He used to swallow Ginsberg's jizz in the hopes it would give him some talent as a writer and poet. Which of course he did not have any of. He's not even a conservative--don't ya' know that? Sorry, I keep forgetting you're a child.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Hey, idiot, youtube changes any time entry to a link. I gave you the title so you can find the clip and then go to the ten minute mark to see the part that's pertinent here. So again, go to "Michael Savage - Top Ten Liberal Callers of All Time!!" and hit the ten minute mark.
Do you know who I am? No, so don't pretend to. You can puff yourself up with your internet tough guy act but you're a punk looking for an outlet to puff out your chest. You're full of shit. Get over yourself.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 HA! First off, how can you tell where he is in that pic?. Secondly, yeah, he might go to places where all his lackeys are, but if you saw him on the street and called him out, he'd shit his pants. He's a little nibbish, he's a dumpy little nothing, pencil neck. He's the radio tough guy. He's the punk, who talks tough on a radio, but isn't man enough to say anything to anyone's face. He barely even ever has guests in his studio-every wonder why?
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 You have no facts, nothing of substance to contribute. It's all conjecture from you. I showed you a video to show you that you're a full-of-shit liar and all you do is continue your BS. Do you not have eyes? Did you not see the video of him talking TO SOMEBODY's FACE???? He's the one with the show, you're the nobody going after him on Youtube. You can't deal with that so instead of challenging him you challenge what, his sexuality? I'm done here.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 You showed me a picture of him wearing hat! There's no one else in the picture but him. And, yeah I do challenge him on his sexuality, because he said vile things about gay people and he says vile things about Muslims(funny you didn't dare even try to answer that one) he continually lies through his teeth( as he is in this video) and demonizes black people as lazy thieves. He's a loathsome, racist piece of shit and if you admire him, so are you. Feel free to fuck off now.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 If you think "having a show" on which he spreads hate and lies makes him a "somebody", you're nowhere.
Savage is the lowest form of human life, a person who's made himself rich selling bigotry.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 It means he got somewhere with his beliefs, as he has a strong following and has published best-sellers for a worthy cause. You call it hate and lies; I call it spreading awareness. It's just that you're to idealistic to realize that some of the stuff you call bigotry is truth.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 There's no honor in "getting somewhere" spreading hate. There's no cause more UNWORTHY than selling his books full of bigotry and lies. I don't call it hate and lies, it IS hate and lies. There's NO truth in bigotry. His hate of Muslims is NOT based in truth. His hate of gays is NOT based in truth. His hate of blacks, of women, of liberals, NOT BASED IN ANY TRUTH AT ALL.
It's not "idealistic" it's truth.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Why "is it" hate and lies? Are all the former Muslims publishing books about the evils of Islam lying too? Do the numbers(15K+ terrorist attacks since 9/11) lie too? He's against the gay agenda and gay marriage, not Gays. Marriage and family is sacred to some of us and we don't want to see it get mutilated.
He declared that he thinks a black man (Herman Cain) could save America. He supports Allen West, another black man. You're spreading the hate based on mis-information.
ChiTownIsaac55 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 Yes, those publishing vicious attacks on Muslims ARE lying. Where you got that number is a mystery, the description of "terrorist" seems to blow in the wind, and NONE of those have anything to do with the average American Muslim whose safety is threatened by the sick bigotry you're supporting, any more than the average Christian should be blamed for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Arabs by our government.
The "gay agenda" is equality, and it IS hate of gays to oppose it.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 Marriage and family ARE important, and you're INSULTING them by pretending Jim Crow laws are "protecting the family". Name ONE FAMILY that will be harmed by marriage equality. What marriage will be "destroyed" if the gay couple down the block is married.
Herman Cain is a radical right nut job not qualified for the Bugtussle City Council, and Allen West is a vicious thug. It does NOT reduce his racism to back a couple of tokens, NEITHER of whom truly supports racial justice.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@ChiTownIsaac55 And while we're on the topic, explain to me why Savage said we should drop an atomic bomb on the haj to mecca. This is someone you admire??
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Yes, they DO encourage people to do stupid things. And YES, we should be right in their face criticizing what they SAY AND DO.
I have absolutely no reason to believe any of them is gay, and couldn't possibly care less. A person's orientation is their own business, and shouldn't be used against anyone. It's wrong when someone's career and life are destroyed because they're gay...ANYONE'S.
There's plenty, MORE than enough, to bash these hate-mongers on. If they're gay, so what?
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 I don't care if he's gay or not, that's not the issue. The issue is his attacks on gay people. When you do that(AND YOU'RE GAY!) you deserve to be outted(period).
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Absolute BULLSHIT! Oppose his attacks, blast away, he deserves it. I don't care if someone's totally straight or a flaming queer, they EQUALLY deserve the criticism for what they SAY, and equally deserve their privacy to be respected. NOBODY deserves to be outed, it only harms the cause of equality.
And unless you've actually had sex with these people, this dopey old meme about homophobes all being latent homosexuals was a ball of bunk all along.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Sorry, you couldn't be anymore wrong. It's people like Savage and Ted Haggard, who promote hatred and violence against gay people by calling them ungodly, abominations, sodmites, etc. They deserve to be outted and ridiculed and I'll do it every chance I get. You don't like it? Feel free to fuck off.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Congratulations, your own massive ego matters more to you than promoting equality and justice. I swear, assholes like you harm the cause more than a boatload of bigots like this.
WHY does it make you angry to hear this bigotry? Because it's wrong.
And you think the answer to wrong is more wrong.
Again...NOBODY deserves to have their PRIVATE life "outed". People DIE because of this, homophobia KILLS, it's not some game. Say why what he says is wrong, all day till you drop, I do.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Dude, you've got your head so far up your ass, you don't even know what you're saying. Michael Savage, who was/is gay, calls gay people sodomites, who will burn in hell. And, I'm the one spreading homophobia? LMFAO! And, again I'm sorry when someone spreads gay hate(and is himself gay), I'll call him out on it. People have a right to know. Had this hateful little shrew never said what he said, I'd have no interest in his sexuality. But he did say it, so he's fair game.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 I call bullshit on you now. You pretend to be a gay rights advocate, yet use the term "Savage, who is/was gay".
There is no such thing as a former homosexual, NOBODY can be described as "they were gay, but now they're not."
YES, he says horrible things about gay people, and THOSE should be harshly criticized. Your vile personal attacks DETRACT from that, and pretend that homosexuality is something of which a person should be ashamed.
Outing people is always wrong, every time.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're missing the same point again, which makes me wonder how bright you are. It has nothing to do with his sexuality, it has to do with his credibility(or lack thereof). If you say vile things like that and spread hate, it's absolutely ok to let people know that this person is gay and is saying such things to cover up his gayness. That's what it's about. Again, you might not be bright enough to grasp it. And again, I'll say whatever I like. You don't like it. FUCK OFF!
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Sure, you have the right to say it.
But it's an asshole thing to do. You don't get to talk about what a lowlife Savage is, then prove it...by being even more of a lowlife.
I'm not missing any point. You're just being a dick. You whine about him saying vile things, then want to do something even more vile.
What part of this is confusing? It is NEVER OK to out ANYBODY under ANY circumstance.
I also think your credibility is ZERO. Your PROOF that he's gay??? Where's THAT??
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Right, I'm a lowlife. And it's never OK to out someone? Really? When closeted gay Republicans try to pass laws banning gay marriage, gay adoption and even gay people working as teachers, it's wrong to out them?? I DARE YOU TO ANSWER THAT. This is an issue that extends way beyond this piece of dirt of Savage. Again, you either don't know about it or you're not bright to understand it.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 NO, it is not EVER OK to out someone. The laws banning gay marriage and adoption and the rest were unconstitutional and immoral, THAT is the reason to oppose them. The PRIVATE life of the legislators is not.
Dare me to answer? I HAVE ANSWERED.
Yes, the issue extends very deeply, there are LOTS of examples, and it's DEAD WRONG under ANY circumstance to out someone, EVER.
I know this issue very well, I understand it fine. You lower yourself to their level with tactics like this.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Well, again, skippy, you miss the point. I didn't out anyone. I didn't out the Republican legislators, who did such things. I don't go around investigating people's private lives. I have better things to do. But, other people have outted them. They're out. So, it's not a secret anymore, so why is it wrong to mention? We should all just pretend their not self loathing homosexuals, spreading hate and violence?
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 what BULLSHIT! No, we do NOT ignore that they are spreading hate and violence. We DO mind our own damn business. It is NOBODY'S business whether any of the people you mention are gay (and it remains a hysterically unlikely thing that any, much less all, is)
What they SAY is wrong, and it's no no more wrong if they're straight, gay, assexual, or sleeping with space aliens or their houseplants. Their MESSAGE is wrong, their private life is just that...private.
I missed no "point".
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Sure, self loathing homosexuals, who's self loathing is the EXACT reason they spout hatred and violence. It is the absolute cause of it. But, we can't mention it? Sorry, skippy. It's the equal of a jew being a nazi or a black man being in the KKK! I'll call them out every chance I get. Again, you don't like, go fuck a duck!
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 I don't care the cause of it, it's all excuses. It's also a hoary old myth, this business of everyone who's outspoken against equality being a secret latent homosexual.
It's not the same as a black person in the KKK, because everyone can see that someone's black, for better or worse. Sexuality is private unless someone chooses for it not to be. CHOOSES. That's a right every person, even really crappy people, ought to have.
CALL THEM OUT FOR HATE, NOT FOR BEING GAY!
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 I never said everyone, but there are some we know, Savage, Larry Craig, Ted Haggard. Fuck 'em. I have no sympathy for them. They get what they deserve, what they have put forth has come back to them. And, for the 50th time it's not about their being gay. It's about credibility. If someone publicly damned the KKK and was privately a member of that group, it's wrong to point that out?!?! HA! That's insane and you know it is. Check mate, my friend, game over.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 God, you're being an idiot. It obviously IS about his being gay (you THINK) because you're talking about outing him.
if you were ONLY talking about what MATTERS, which is what he says and why it's wrong, nobody would be bothering to complain.
Yeah, it's roughly the same to compare someone CHOOSING to join the KKK, and someone being gay, which is NOT chosen. If they're criticized, they can quit the KKK. Nobody ever quit being gay.
It's not just wrong, it accomplishes NOTHING.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Has nothing to do with his gayness, or outting him. I would never out anyone. I didn't out Savage/Weiner. He's been outted for decades now. Everyone knows it. It's the worst kept secret in show biz! But, when you spread hatred and violence toward gay people, when you call them sodomites, who will burn in hell, and you yourself are gay, as Savage/Weiner is, all bets are off. For the 50th time, if u don't like it, feel free to fuck off! Your inane yammerings will not stop me.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Again with the name. What trash. He has NOT been "outed for decades", people have been CLAIMING he is gay, with the most ridiculous lack of evidence imaginable. NO, asshole, everyone does NOT "know it", everyone knows a few lowlifes CLAIM it.
"All bets are off" you mean you want to be just as immoral, just as nasty, just as hateful as Savage. You want to sink to his level.
NO, I do NOT like it, nor will I 'fuck off'. Assholes like you HARM the cause of justice.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're sounding more and more like exactly what you are--a fan of Michael Savage! And he has been outted for decades. I work in the publishing biz, San Fan is a big part of my biz. I know the people there, everyone knows about him. He's gay, or he was, or whatever. Really. I don't care. For the 100th time, you slow witted boob. It has nothing to do with his sexuality. It has to do with hypocrisy. You're just not bright enough to grasp these things.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 Oh, bullshit! You think NOBODY who hates and fights their life long AGAINST bigotry is REALLY against it unless they support your sick outing of people? YOU have shown yourself to be quite dim, there is a LARGE part of the gay and allied movement VERY opposed to "outing" anyone.
He has NOT been "outed" for decades, a few MORONS have claimed he is gay with ZERO evidence.
It doesn't have to do with "hypocrisy," it has to do with you sinking to his level, making ALL gays look bad.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Right, a few morons! Like Alan Ginsberg, Lawrence Ferlinghetti and every single person involved in the SF publishing world! Some of the smartest people I've ever met. And, of course you''re . . . ahhh . . . not! LMFAO! For the 50th time, I didn't out him. Nor did I attack him for his sexuality, I simply stated a truth. He's gay, or he was and he's vile piece of shit. And for the 50th time, if u don't like it FUCK OFF!
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 You lying sack of SHIT! you ARE outing him, you're going around proclaiming WITH ZERO EVIDENCE that someone who is not openly gay is gay. That's not EVER OK. You ARE attacking his sexuality, you ARE saying it's wrong and bad.
People's sexual orientation shouldn't matter AT ALL, you're saying it does. You claim you are "stating a truth", where the hell is the EVIDENCE? You're "stating" a rumor worthy of junior high pep club.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Everyone in the SF publishing business knows he was gay back in the day. Again, I didn't out him. Savage has been trying to hide these rumors for years and amazingly, he uses the exact same language you do, rather than just ad it what he is. I mean, would it be wrong for me to say Anderson Copper is gay? Or Richard Simmons? Everyone knows their gay just like everyone who knew Michael Weiner back in the day knew he was gay, at least back then he was.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're accomplishing nothing more than letting me post it again and again for more and more people to see. SAVAGE IS A CLOSETED SELF LOATHING HOMOSEXUAL!!!! So, I thank you for your continued and rampant dullardry, which has allowed me to post it 50 times than I otherwise would have!!!! Nice job, skippy! Thanks again for the helping hand! You want to try for another 50? HA!
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 BULLSHIT! That is a LIE. What you OUGHT to post is that Savage is a hateful bigot.
YOU DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS GAY OR NOT. Have you slept with him?
You think decency towards others is "dull"? That's no surprise, just as Savage thinks hate and venom is "exciting" and "cool". You're lowering yourself to his level.
I've known people beaten into weeks-long hospital stays solely because they were gay. This is not a "ha". There's nothing funny about it.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Didn't say it was funny, nor do I wish for it to happen. But, the reason it does happen is because of guys like Savage. You know it as well as I do, Prisoner, that there are plenty of people, who;d like to kick the shit out of Savage and his being a closeted homosexual would be way down the list of reasons for that. He puts out a violent, hateful vibe and I would be none too surprised, now would I care, if it came back at him.
JosephCa64 6 months ago
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@PrisonerNumber9653 " there is a LARGE part of the gay and allied movement VERY opposed to "outing" anyone."
haha, I am gay and I know this is completely false as a fact.... I am not a flamer though so I am the target of hate from fellow gay people because I don't act like Ru Paul...
when the hell are you miserable breeders going to stop acting like you know anything about the gay community? (which is a big fat scam)
MrSpemat 3 months ago
@JosephCa64 I am NOT a "fan" of this bastard. I hate his vile, rancid trash as much as ANYONE possibly could. I hate not just his homophobia, but his racism, his vicious bigotry towards Muslims, his sick attacks on teachers and education, his vomit about global warming being a "hoax," his crude sexism, one could go on and on. Mostly I loath his support for greed and inequality, attacking the poor as "deserving" their misery.
And guess what? I would hate it NO LESS if he's gay or straight.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 A light needs to be shone on such hypocrites. Because what they do leads to gay people being bullied, beaten and sometimes killed. But, that's ok with you? And, I'm the bad guy?
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 And you are NOT "shining a light" on his bigotry. Criticize the HELL out of it.
His personal sexuality is NOT a party of this, and the fact that gays ARE threatened like this merely points out how truly wrong it is to "out" ANYBODY. Do you really think it serves our cause if you out someone and then he gets killed, making ALL equality advocates look like trash?
NO, you son of a bitch, the hate is NOT ok with me, and you goddam KNOW it. Oppose the hate, do NOT contribute to it.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 The point you've been missing all along is, I didn't out Michael Savage, wasn't me. People have known about it for decades. It's no secret. And, again the staggering stupidity you exhibit in accusing me of promoting hatred? I'm for gay rights, I'm for gay marriage, I'm for gays in the military and Michael Savage thinks their sodomites, who will burn in hell. But, I'm spreading hate?
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 That's bullshit. People have not "known" it, people have repeated a RUMOR. Unless you slept with him, you don't know.
You goddam well ARE promoting hatred! EVERY time this happens, it harms the equality movement, it makes gays and their allies look vindictive and nasty and hateful, and lets these bigots become victims.
Savage deserves the most harsh of criticism because of what he says. EVERYTHING we stand for says sexual orientation doesn't matter, but you're ignoring that.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Right, well, we're going in circles. I think calling out hypocrites and traitors to their people is fair game. And, I'll do it every chance I get. You can play the false equivalence game all you like. None of these people have been violently attacked. But, attacks on gay youth rise and rise and rise, because of people like Savage. So that's it. You don't like it---FUCK OFF!
JosephCa64 6 months ago
@JosephCa64 You seem to have no conscience whatsoever, if you think it'll help, do it, no matter how much damage it does to somebody. "Fair game", what a load of shit. A person's sexuality is NEVER fair gam