Can you buy me a Ninja 250r? I'll get an attorney to write up a legal binding contract where I have to dedicate a youtube video to you everytime I ride for up to 1 year.
Yea I read online that your not suppose to add synthetic oil until 3000 miles so that the engine is fully broke in the guy I bought my ninja from said the same thing so i will probably wait before adding synthetic oil
go ask any technician or any bike dealer. go tell him what you read off the internet and he will probably smack you. full synthetic is better no matter when you put it in there's less friction and it disperses heat better. Dont give me some bs about "oh well conventional oil conditions the seals better". give me a real reason why its not good. go talk to a real technician.
Using full synthetic oil before the engine is broke in will make you lose power and have a overall weaker engine, the superior friction reduction of synth oil will not let the engine wear the tight tolerances enough to loosen up the engine.The burs and sharp spots from the new engine will not get worn either .I actually researched this on the net and I did read it from pros on many forums. Oh and the bike mechanic I bought my bike from said NO synthetic oil until the engine is fully broken in
WOW,wow, you should not be using syntetic oil yet, is way to early to use it, man you are not goint to let your bike brake in well wich is going to cost you some hose-power. not very smart!
There is a lot of discussion on this. They say on modern engines that it is safe to switch to synthetic oil right away.
Something important to add is that changing the oil at a very low mileage is a good idea because new motors tend to have little metal shavings in the oil system that can be removed by changing the oil and filter.
Also, people posting that they dont go above 6k rpms at "any" time, you need to learn more about your engine. The 250 is a "High" rev engine, look at the tach. 12,500 red line is high. Ya'll are just bogging down you engine. 6k rpm or higher while riding is what you need to be at.
You are not going to hurt these engines unless you neglect basic maintance. The old models did like to spit oil up the engine breather tube, up to the air filter box. Thats cause the crank moves so fast.
All engines run through a test at the factory before selling. Now if they change the oil after that (which you should since thats when all the "break in" material comes loose), which you should, I couldnt tell ya.
Break in on any engine is a very crucial phrase and if your going to disagree with that then your just stupid and should not own a motor vehicle. I've never owned a bike, but an engine is an engine for the most part. If you understand the full concepts you'll do fine. My comment on the 50 mile oil change is that I read that and I don't know really, I would follow the manual on that. But 500 ish miles yes Oil change on any new or rebuilt engine. It will insure the longevity of the motor.
I agree with what he is doing, a New Engine needs a Oil Change around the 500 mile mark. I've rebuilt sport car engines and broken in engine to know that. I'm about to buy a 250r as soon as the dealer gets one in. I've read and talk to a lot of old and experienced bikers and I still have not personally made my mind up on the break in.
im not a bike expert but arent oil filters supposed to catch the metal crap any one who says change the oil in the first 20 to 50 miles hasnt got a clue just read the manual it was writen by experts
The synthetic won't ruin the engine, but supposedly will not allow for a full engine break in which will lose you a few horsepower. In a bike with only 27 hp to start 3 hp would be a very noticeable difference.
I've done quite a bit of research on breaking in the engine for new bikes. The consensus seems to be that you should change the oil very early (like 20-50 miles). Most also say to wait until 1500 miles are on the bike to switch to synthetic. You might do good for your bike to do another oil change with non synthetic oil. You can keep the same filter in since you are not due for another oil change yet, just changing the oil so you can get a proper break in.
omg man i realy cant thank u enough ever since ur first walk around video ive wanted the 08 ninja so bad well as of last tuesday i am now the owned of a brand new 2008 sunbeam red ninja 250 ,and loving every min of having it thank u 4 the videos
how many rpms did you keep it at while breaking it in i have heard keep it at 4 grand but thats only 35 mph i guess i am getting mine in a few weeks same color
nah man i just got mine brand new it will go like 55 at 4k rpm in 6th but its not realy that important to go that slow as long as ur not pinging out it all the time ull be good
drained the oil first then after the majority of the oil was out then took the filter of yes. then let it train on its stand for about a half and then straight up and down for five. then finished it.
as soon as i can figure out how to mount my digital camera on my bike i will put a high speed vid for you. anyone know how i can do so. i allready did 100 no prob.
You can buy magnetic camera mounts that you put on the tank. Not sure where you can get them from in the USA I know they are £25 in the U.K Its like a camera tripod but with magnetic feet
i wouldn't have put synthetic in it yet...not till at least 4-5 thousand miles. the engine is still breaking in and seating. synthetic is too slick for break in and the rings won't seat correctly or ever seat. at 500 miles the engine is only about 90% brike in and about 95% broke in at 1k miles.
I havee done variable speed. Put heavy and light load on it, uphill, downhill, shifted heavy and soft through every gear. The engine is wore in, the amount of metal flakes was wild. I am going to change the oil again in about five hundred miles.
You changed the oil at about the right time. On a new bike its supposed to be roughly 600miles. And theres nothing wrong with using synthetic oil before 10000miles. Think how long it would take you to do 10k. Thanks for the video
hey how many quarts need it?
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Can you buy me a Ninja 250r? I'll get an attorney to write up a legal binding contract where I have to dedicate a youtube video to you everytime I ride for up to 1 year.
we5leyz 2 years ago
Yea I read online that your not suppose to add synthetic oil until 3000 miles so that the engine is fully broke in the guy I bought my ninja from said the same thing so i will probably wait before adding synthetic oil
dough3208 2 years ago
go ask any technician or any bike dealer. go tell him what you read off the internet and he will probably smack you. full synthetic is better no matter when you put it in there's less friction and it disperses heat better. Dont give me some bs about "oh well conventional oil conditions the seals better". give me a real reason why its not good. go talk to a real technician.
ShwigShwag 2 years ago
Using full synthetic oil before the engine is broke in will make you lose power and have a overall weaker engine, the superior friction reduction of synth oil will not let the engine wear the tight tolerances enough to loosen up the engine.The burs and sharp spots from the new engine will not get worn either .I actually researched this on the net and I did read it from pros on many forums. Oh and the bike mechanic I bought my bike from said NO synthetic oil until the engine is fully broken in
dough3208 2 years ago
WOW,wow, you should not be using syntetic oil yet, is way to early to use it, man you are not goint to let your bike brake in well wich is going to cost you some hose-power. not very smart!
lilfoot4025 3 years ago
There is a lot of discussion on this. They say on modern engines that it is safe to switch to synthetic oil right away.
Something important to add is that changing the oil at a very low mileage is a good idea because new motors tend to have little metal shavings in the oil system that can be removed by changing the oil and filter.
alby13 3 years ago
Also, Amsoil fluids are very good.
alby13 3 years ago
hmmm....some brand new cars come from the dealer with 0 miles and already have synthetic.
FormerFC1 3 years ago
you have no idea what your talking about. Don't think you know something because you heard some tool talking about it on a forum.
ShwigShwag 2 years ago
tortilla box ftw haha
vikingo89us 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this video. Thanks
schellingr 3 years ago
Also, people posting that they dont go above 6k rpms at "any" time, you need to learn more about your engine. The 250 is a "High" rev engine, look at the tach. 12,500 red line is high. Ya'll are just bogging down you engine. 6k rpm or higher while riding is what you need to be at.
You are not going to hurt these engines unless you neglect basic maintance. The old models did like to spit oil up the engine breather tube, up to the air filter box. Thats cause the crank moves so fast.
Rangerscott69 3 years ago
All engines run through a test at the factory before selling. Now if they change the oil after that (which you should since thats when all the "break in" material comes loose), which you should, I couldnt tell ya.
Rangerscott69 3 years ago
Break in on any engine is a very crucial phrase and if your going to disagree with that then your just stupid and should not own a motor vehicle. I've never owned a bike, but an engine is an engine for the most part. If you understand the full concepts you'll do fine. My comment on the 50 mile oil change is that I read that and I don't know really, I would follow the manual on that. But 500 ish miles yes Oil change on any new or rebuilt engine. It will insure the longevity of the motor.
keenanbash 3 years ago
I agree with what he is doing, a New Engine needs a Oil Change around the 500 mile mark. I've rebuilt sport car engines and broken in engine to know that. I'm about to buy a 250r as soon as the dealer gets one in. I've read and talk to a lot of old and experienced bikers and I still have not personally made my mind up on the break in.
keenanbash 3 years ago
Ya, a little too early for synthetic.
Rangerscott69 3 years ago
im not a bike expert but arent oil filters supposed to catch the metal crap any one who says change the oil in the first 20 to 50 miles hasnt got a clue just read the manual it was writen by experts
plonker002 3 years ago
how much oil do you have to put in it exactly? is the oil suppose to be in between the lines on the glass window????? please answer
remz88kr 3 years ago
The synthetic won't ruin the engine, but supposedly will not allow for a full engine break in which will lose you a few horsepower. In a bike with only 27 hp to start 3 hp would be a very noticeable difference.
curt248 3 years ago
I've done quite a bit of research on breaking in the engine for new bikes. The consensus seems to be that you should change the oil very early (like 20-50 miles). Most also say to wait until 1500 miles are on the bike to switch to synthetic. You might do good for your bike to do another oil change with non synthetic oil. You can keep the same filter in since you are not due for another oil change yet, just changing the oil so you can get a proper break in.
curt248 3 years ago
omg man i realy cant thank u enough ever since ur first walk around video ive wanted the 08 ninja so bad well as of last tuesday i am now the owned of a brand new 2008 sunbeam red ninja 250 ,and loving every min of having it thank u 4 the videos
lubetubeonmyface 3 years ago
how many rpms did you keep it at while breaking it in i have heard keep it at 4 grand but thats only 35 mph i guess i am getting mine in a few weeks same color
remz88kr 3 years ago
nah man i just got mine brand new it will go like 55 at 4k rpm in 6th but its not realy that important to go that slow as long as ur not pinging out it all the time ull be good
lubetubeonmyface 3 years ago
55 in 6th gear is a lie
Bullride911 3 years ago 3
about 1:28 does that word say tortill wich im thinking ends in tortilla???nice bike mine well be between my legs soon.have fun tortill
randybmxer06 3 years ago
lol u sure to pay attention dont ya. lol i have no clue
gettinginutube 3 years ago
Do not switch to synthetic until your 3,000 mile oil change. sythetic works to well to obtain a proper break in.
mikekreft1 3 years ago 2
hey, did you drain the oil first and THEN take out the oil filter after majority of oil has gone out?
trykp 3 years ago
drained the oil first then after the majority of the oil was out then took the filter of yes. then let it train on its stand for about a half and then straight up and down for five. then finished it.
gettinginutube 3 years ago
as soon as i can figure out how to mount my digital camera on my bike i will put a high speed vid for you. anyone know how i can do so. i allready did 100 no prob.
gettinginutube 3 years ago
You can buy magnetic camera mounts that you put on the tank. Not sure where you can get them from in the USA I know they are £25 in the U.K Its like a camera tripod but with magnetic feet
bikemaddave 3 years ago
i wouldn't have put synthetic in it yet...not till at least 4-5 thousand miles. the engine is still breaking in and seating. synthetic is too slick for break in and the rings won't seat correctly or ever seat. at 500 miles the engine is only about 90% brike in and about 95% broke in at 1k miles.
NOSLOFIVEOH 3 years ago
I havee done variable speed. Put heavy and light load on it, uphill, downhill, shifted heavy and soft through every gear. The engine is wore in, the amount of metal flakes was wild. I am going to change the oil again in about five hundred miles.
gettinginutube 3 years ago
Never!!!Use synthetic oil until 10k milles or you will stop the break in procedure and motor will start eating oil.
flavors3d 3 years ago
it will be fine. if not then amsoil will buy me a new engine. the oil is gaurunteed!!!!!
gettinginutube 3 years ago
You changed the oil at about the right time. On a new bike its supposed to be roughly 600miles. And theres nothing wrong with using synthetic oil before 10000miles. Think how long it would take you to do 10k. Thanks for the video
bikemaddave 3 years ago 2
i think you are right. i heard that it would be fine and i did it and i am happy about it. i am assured it will be plenty ok.
gettinginutube 3 years ago
Dude an engine doesnt take 10000 miles to break in
Bullride911 3 years ago