Damn this media. What a crock. And where is the gutless Sean Hannity? Why isn't he interviewing Corsi? The Republican tool is being told to stay away from the "birther" story. What a phony.
obama is a black person, not a dirty, filthy, illegal, homosexual, muslim coon like most people say. Just cause he has a fat, ugly, size 14 shoes, wife who got thrown out of law school for being an ignorant fraud, is no reason to blame him. He's just a dumb coon, so many just like him.
Corsi, Manning and Boyles are all patriots. Trump is scum. Read: Rick Wiley, May, 2011. Rick will devastate obama. We all know obama is a homosexual, illegal, muslim coon but Rick has proof that obama must be arrested for extorsion and fraud, On different charges! obama must go to prison. Let Rick explain. obama will be in prison, hopefully shortly. obama is true scum. Read it!
@156sbr It's amazing. They (Obama supporters) will ignore that he paid money to keep his birth certificate (and his school records) hidden, took more than 2 years to show a (fake) birth certificate, yet they will spend all their time defending him.
I'm a graphic designer. I work extensively with Photoshop and illustrator. When I saw that "birth certificate", I knew right off the bat that it was a fake. You can tell that it has been edited. Look at the text/information. A curl & shade.......
@156sbr .. is on the left side, yet the page background remains flat. You can see that it was a copied/edited image placed on a green-paper and copied. At least 2 layers are visible.
Obama has been to Hawaii several times since being president, yet only shows something when a powerful man like Trump calls him on it.
Hawaii governor Ambercrombie (an Obama supporter) tried to find proof that Obama was born in Hawaii to end the claims that Obama was not eligible. He checked for records in ......
@156sbr ... every single hospital in Hawaii that would show Obama was born there. No records of Obama's birth or even his mother were found in any hospitals in Hawaii. The Obama supporters and the left-wing media ignores this. They ignore that Obama first claimed that he was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu until it was no records were found of his birth ( 808-538-9011 or 808-547-4361 for medical recors if you want to call & confirm). His sister then came out & said he was born.....
@156sbr .....at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Again, NO RECORD of Obama being born there (808-535-7000).
Brain-dead Obama supporters & left-wing media also ignore that Michelle Obama said that Kenya was Obama's "hometown". Obama's step-grandmother, Sarah Obama, said that she was present during Obama's birth in Mombasa, Kenya, then her interpreter insisted she mean to say Hawaii. Yet 2 members of the Luo tribe reported that Sarah Obama admits/confirms Obama's birth in Kenya.
@156sbr Yeah and look how well that worked out for you. The same idiots you voted for en masse are trying to take destroy your demographics' Medicare.
And I'm personally going to enjoy watching Obama spank whoever you nominate.
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS You are talking to someone who is not able to think on a logical plane. They are brain-dead, liberal zombies who just repeat the crap all other liberals say. They ignore the truth and incapable of thinking for themselves.
Telling them that they even have brains is quite a compliment.
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS .....who sued a state that passed a law to protect their border (and the border of the United States) from illegals and possibly terrorists coming in to harm America; who spits on our allies while helping out our enemies; who has traveled across the world & on every foreign land his foot touches he trashes America; who has sided with FOUR dictators; who has forced national health care down our throats even though over 65% of Americans didn't want it.
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS .... and who voted AGAINST the Born Alive Infant Protection Act - an Act that guaranteed medical attention be given to a baby who survived an induced labor abortion: Obama voted to let a living baby die -- an act of murder. You are talking to someone who defends Obama even after our national debt has more tripled since he's been president, has the highest unemployment for the longest time in American history, who has the worst housing market since the Great Depression...
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS You are talking to someone (DoubleJiveTalking) who supported and voted Obama - an unqualified, unaccomplished man who was born a red-diaper baby, for his entire life was surrounded by people who hate America; was mentored by a member of the Communist Party USA; who studied, mastered, taught and uses the ideology of a radical Marxist; whose only accomplishments as a senator were voting "present" on a 138 bills because he couldn't make up his mind on a yes or no.........
@156sbr Okay, you keep resorting to welfare queen remarks, and all I'm asking is for you to prove that Obama and/or McCain were either naturalized or somehow ineligible to be President.
It's not surprising that you're dodging the primary topic of debate and instead resorting to tired Conservative stereotyping.
@156sbr I'm sorry to keep proving you wrong. I know how sensitive you Birthers get when someone outside of this deluded bubble Corsi, Taitz et al have constructed around you proves you wrong.
But insulting me and accusing me of being a welfare queen isn't gonna make Obama ineligible to be President.
@156sbr My paid-off 2004 Toyota Corolla would disagree with you, and again, check your laws. It's illegal for non-Cuban Americans to travel to Cuba without a special license from the Treasury Department. :-p
@156sbr I think YOU should familiarize yourself with case law. That way you wouldn't be making these grand statements about McCain and Obama not being eligible to be President...
@156sbr They taught me that when American military families are abroad, and give birth to a child, that child is considered a natural-born citizen. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@156sbr And no. You posted a law referring to Americans going overeas and having children with women living overseas, who then raise that child in a foreign country.
@156sbr I may not have the easiest time translating your horrific grammar into coherent English, but that doesn't mean I'm illiterate.
Your deluded fantasies that I'm some welfare queen is rather laughable, but honestly I'm not surprised. I've read comments from people like you for years. Whenever you post a debunked Birther Talking Point and someone smarter than you debunks it, you go off on a rant and accuse the other person of being uneducated and living off the system.
@156sbr Who's uneducated? You're claiming that Obama and McCain somehow duped the entire country into thinking they were eligible for the Presidency, and split about 130 million votes between them.
@156sbr Dude, you're the one calling children born to military families overseas immigrants, and claiming that nurses in military hospitals are dropping green-cards into the babies' bassinets, when that is clearly not the case.
@156sbr Yes. Let's. You originally invoked it while trying to discredit McCain, however there's no record that McCain EVER went through the naturalization process (hint: He didn't have to. His parents were citizens).
And I'm gainfully employed, thank you. But it's no surprise that you think everybody to the left of Reagan is a welfare queen.
@156sbr Ah yes. Anybody who proves you wrong must be a communist.
I'm not a communist. Just smarter than you. And able to interpret laws as they were written (and thusly interpreted by the Supreme Court). NOT by what I want them to mean.
@156sbr That law abolutely does NOT apply to American families giving birth on American military bases overseas (as you originally stated). Military bases are considered soverign United States territory.
That law applies if any American (not necessarily a soldier) goes to a foreign country, knocks up a foreign woman, the woman gives birth to his child abroad, and the child grows up in that country. The law ensures naturalization for that child.
@156sbr Save your criticism of Obama's policies for another video. That's not what I'm here for. You're welcome to disagree with any as many (or all) of the President's policies that you like.
But it doesn't mean he's illegally occupying the White House.
@156sbr Dude, I saw all those videos THREE YEARS AGO! All that stuff has been debunked. You can guys can keep re-hashing this stuff until Obama quits in '17. Isn't gonna make any of it true.
LOL! Children born overseas to American parents don't have to go through the naturalization process, and most certainly weren't issued "green cards." Do you even know what a green card is?? Clearly not! Infants aren't issued them.
@156sbr And I'm sure you know Alan Keyes is hardly an objective party. He's the guy Obama SPANKED in the 2004 Illinois Senate election, getting 70% of the vote.
It's not a stretch to say Keyes is embittered and has a chip on his shoulder.
@156sbr Are you familiar with the concept of "ancestral heritage"? That's why Michelle meant by "home country", and his grandmother meant by "son of this village." It's called HERITAGE.
My home country is Italy, even though I'm third-generation Italian-American.
And if you think McCain was ineligible, then you aren't familiar with American laws for American children born abroad.
You should do more research instead of reading right-wing blogs with Obama doctored up to look like the Joker.
@156sbr Sarah Obama said it in the same interview where she said she witnessed Barack, Sr. birth. Literally right after (usually where the birthers cut off the tape).
She said repeatedly: "Barack was born in America. In Hawaii." There is no other record of her saying that her step-grandson was born in Kenya. NONE!
@156sbr He never fought anything. No court ever asked him to release his birt certificate.
The SSN "scandal" has been debunked again and again and again.
And the COLB Obama produced in 2008 was a perfectly legal and acceptable proof of identification, per the Hawaii State Department and the Full Faith and Credit clause in the Constitution.
@156sbr Yes you do. It's called "jus solis", or "birthright citizenship." It's been the law of the land in America since 1868.
Per Wong Kim Ark, the only children excluded from birthright citizenship are the children of foreign diplomats, foreign heads of state, and the children of foreigners who are currently occupying the United States due to a hostile military invasion. None of those things apply to the President.
Michelle never said he was born in Kenya. And no I'm not a stooge.
@156sbr On what planet was Barack, Sr. a foreign diplomat? He was a COLLEGE STUDENT on a STUDENT VISA! Another piece of legislation you're citing that is NOT applicable to the President.
His grandmother said REPEATEDLY in that interview: "Barack was born in America." Listen to the ENTIRE audio of the interview. The interviewer mentioned both Obama Sr. and Jr. interchangably, which caused confusion and which is why she said she witnessed her step-son's birth. She stated Obama was born here.
Corsi is a patriot and a hero. Him and Peter Boyles have exposed obama. Corsi has said that after he's done with obama, the next piece of garbage he's going after is Donald Trump. Trump is a true, lying, dirtbag who steals from and ruins other people. Trump must be taken down, he is scum. Trump has little money himself, he lives off his father. obama is a homosexual, illegal muslim porch monkey. Go to: Her Name is Ms Ann. Manning will explain. o'reilly is a scum liar.
Trump is an enormous disappointment in that he promised he'd have that ridiculous new BC checked out by his "EXPERTS". His experts must be idiots as since 15 minutes after it was posted, all of us on FB saw proof it was fake. Hate to think Trump is that good an actor because he had some of us going for a while, altho it was in the back of my mind that he was doing this to help BO get the issue out of the way before campaign season. What a creep. Both of them.
The mainstream media is part of the establishment protecting the usurper Obama. The American people must do their job for them, spread the word about Obama's ineligibility, fraud, and criminal cover-up, and pressure anyone in power who cares about America and who has a conscience to take action.
This is super - duper, balls to the walls retarded. Just double down on the retardation, when that doesn't work, triple down. This is "God of the Gaps" in action, now with retardo-birther action!
When Barack Obama was elected, it was a takeover of the United States government! George Soros is behind it! Our own Supreme Court would not listen to any cases against him! Our Senators, Representatives and Supreme Court are behind this; and all of them are panty wastes for not speaking up against it! If I were running this; I'd say "YOU ARE ALL FIRED!".
The fraudulent birth certificate; is a fact. Obama should get his money back; because as a draftsman for the Moore Business Forms; I could have come up with something better than that! My opinion; AND THE LAW, is that Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama i.e. Barry Soetoro in Indonesia; and the law in our US is that the previous birth certificate is expunged! Case closed!
Bill O'Reilly is worthless. He is hated by liberals but tries to curry favor with them and in the process alienates conservatives.
The reason McCain needed two US citizen parents was he was born in Panama. If you are born on US soil you don't need either parent to be American -- thus, the anchor baby concept.
Excerpt 2. de Vattel's LAW OF NATIONS circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, Sec. 212:
"The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The country, of parents who are citizens. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tactic consent."
@CasperCee Again, not in the Consitution or any Supreme Court decision related to citizenship. We're governed by the Constitution, not the Law of Nations.
"No person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, al the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president;"
Excerpt 3, Article I, Sec. 8:
The Congress shall have the Power…. to define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the LAW O F NATIONS.
@CasperCee Thank for you quoting that and proving my point. The Law of Nations' definition of citizenship isn't in the Consitution, or any other law on the books.
Read the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court decision and learn something...
@DoubleTalkingJive There is no way a person who has Dual Citizenship, or who has had Dual Citizenship, should be eligible under Article II. As you will see in Part Two there is good evidence that Senator Barack Obama is such a person, that Governor Bill Richardson may also be and that Senator John McCain is not. By definition NATURAL BORN = BORN IN THE (SOLE) ALLEGIANCE OF THE USA, not born on US Soil.
@DoubleTalkingJive The US State Department says, ” Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person’s allegiance. However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries.”
@CasperCee Dude, you just quoted a passage that refers to an American citizen getting incarcerated in a foreign country. The State Department is commenting on the ability of American embassies abroad to assist with said incarcerated citizen.
That has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama. LOL!
@DoubleTalkingJive US Law says nothing about Dual Nationality at all, it simply accepts that some people have it, but if Naturalized Citizens cannot be POTUS because they have previously had another Allegiance, and that is exactly why they can’t, then Dual Nationals can’t either, in fact there is less excuse for them.
@DoubleTalkingJive Swayne was quoting the Precedent of English Common Law and Justice Sir William Blackstone, who said: “And this maxim of the law proceeded upon a general principle, that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once.”
Obama was born with dual citizenship - both American and Kenyan.
@DoubleTalkingJive The POTUS had to have only ONE Allegiance. The old Precedent Case for Article II was United States v. Rhodes and in that Case Justice Swayne said, “All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this Country…since as before the Revolution.”
@CasperCee Again, prove Obama has a foreign allegiance. He's only lived in one other country besides the States, and that was for four years in Indonesia going to GRADE SCHOOL. Hardly a foreign allegiance.
And wow you actually just made my point by quoting "Birth and allegiance go together" and "All persons born in the allegiance of the United State are Natural-Born Citizens". Obama was born and raised here. Guess where his allegiance is??
@DoubleTalkingJive The United States Naturalization Act of March 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104, which was written, partly, to clarify Article II says this, “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”. The Framers were clear that you did not have to be born in the USA, or in a State; you could be born anywhere.
@DoubleTalkingJive Article II of the Constitution of the United States DOES NOT mean what almost everybody thinks that it means. When it says, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; ….and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”, it ISN’T talking about WHERE the POTUS is born.
@DoubleTalkingJive Anybody born in territory over which the United States claims legal jurisdiction, at the time of birth, and both of whosePARENTS are United States Citizens is inter alia, and by definition, a natural-born citizen of the USA.
Anyone else inter alia, and by definition, though they be born a Citizen under the XIVth Amendment but of parents of differing allegiance, is not and cannot be a natural-born citizen.
@DoubleTalkingJive To be a Natural Born Citizen one has to be born in a State, or Condition of, Allegiance to the USA. A person with Dual Nationality due to having parents of differing Nationality, who both acknowledged the Birth, is not so born. Their Allegiance is, by definition, divided. Subsequent acquisition of Nationality produces the same problem.
@DoubleTalkingJive Justice Swayne was a good logical thinker, deeply versed in Common Law, both English and American. The key word is Allegiance: “born in the Allegiance of the United States”, not “within the Territory”, or “on the soil of”.
@CasperCee Umm according to the Supreme Court opinion that you've quoted TWICE, there's no difference between birth and allegiance, so you just screwed your own argument. :-p
@DoubleTalkingJive But is United States v. Rhodes dealing with only jus soli? Because The United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) states “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.
@CasperCee First of all, US v Rhodes was a fucking Army Sgt. who was charged with TREASON! It was not, unlike Wong Kim Ark, a citizenship case.
Secondly, you don't realize this but by quoting that opinion you're making my argument for me! "Birth and allegiance go together" implies that Obama's allegiance was HERE simply by being born HERE.
@DoubleTalkingJive This is invariably taken to be a statement of pure jus soli based upon Calvin’s Case, 77 Eng. Rep. 377 (1608), which established that under English Common Law “a person’s status was vested at birth, and based upon place of birth–a person born within the King’s Dominion owed Allegiance to the Sovereign, and in turn, was entitled to the King’s protection.”
@CasperCee Casper again, you keep making my arguments for me. "Jus solis" laws, which American has, means that Obama is natural-born and is eliglbe to be President.
Jus solis laws are also why the children of illegal immigrants are giving citizenship simply by being born here.
You're clearly just grabbing cherry-picked quotes from every direction, and don't seem to you even know what you're quoting.
You need to do more research without relying on right-wing blogs.
@DoubleTalkingJive “All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this country…since as before the Revolution.”
@DoubleTalkingJive He wasn’t a man whose advice could be ignored. Note that what particularly concerned Jay was not a political issue but a military issue arising because the President is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. He was bothered by issues of National Security.
-- United States v. Rhodes
In United States v. Rhodes, Supreme Court Justice Noah Haynes Swayne (December 7, 1804 – June 8, 1884) addressed the issue as follows:
@DoubleTalkingJive The Convention agreed and without debate the provision suggested by Jay was written into the Constitution. That Jay’s advice was taken is not surprising because in his career Jay was President of the Continental Congress, Chief Justice of the New York Supreme Court, 1st Chief Justice of the United States, Ambassador to Spain and France, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Secretary of State) and Governor of New York, among other things.
@CasperCee Yes, but the Constiution still makes no reference to the citizenship of one's parents, so you're half-correct, and still wrong on the eligbility issue.
@DoubleTalkingJive "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”
@DoubleTalkingJive Still, why were Naturalized Citizens excluded in the first place? The answer to that lies in the genesis of Article II. It did not spring fully armed and fully grown out of nowhere as Athena sprang from the head of Zeus. It began with a letter. On July 25th, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, then Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention:
@CasperCee I'm not here to comment as to why Naturalized citizens aren't eligible. It's the law of the land, and there's no evidence that Obama is a naturalized citizen (hint: People who are born on U.S. soil don't have to go through the naturalization process).
We can debate that at another time. Stick to Obama.
@DoubleTalkingJive This is not altering Article II but clarifying the meaning of Article II and in so doing it makes clear that it was never the case that one had to be born in the USA to be eligible for the Office of President, one did not need to be Native Born, but one did need to be a Citizen by Birth. However the term Natural Born goes beyond that.
@CasperCee Again, go read the Wong Kim Ark decision. You will see that there is NO such difference between "native-born" and "natural-born." The WKA decision has been the law of the land for 113 years. Hate to break it to ya.
@DoubleTalkingJive The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizen
In short, there is no relevance to Article II in any modern legislation, so you have to determine who is and who is not a Natural Born Citizen by finding out what the men who framed it meant. The Act of 1790 is significant not in itself but because it speaks to the Intention of those who less than three years before Drafted the Constitution and Article II and who also Drafted the Act. The Act states:
@CasperCee Dude, why do you keep quoting a REPEALED law?!
The NA of 1790 stated that only "free white persons" could emigrate to the States and become citizens. That means no blacks, Asians, or slaves could be citizens.
It has been superseded countless time since then. You need to get your clocks fixed.
@DoubleTalkingJive The term Natural Born Citizen occurs in US Law in two places: The Constitution itself and the United States Naturalization Act of March 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104.
@DoubleTalkingJive Just because Obama was supposedly born in Hawaii does NOT MEAN his allegiance is to America.
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree". Do some research on Obama, his parents, who mentored him. Look up Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinksy, Cloward & Piven, William Ayers, Raila Odinga; look at the groups supporting Obama: Communist Party USA, Louis Ferrakhan and the Nation of Islam; look at his choices for his Czars: John Holdren, Kevin Jennings, Van Jones, Carol Browner.
@CasperCee He didn't claim to be the son of a Kenyan national; he IS the son of a Kenyan national. A parents' American citizenship (or lack thereof) has NO bearing on an American-born child's natural-born citizenship.
@DoubleTalkingJive By requirement of the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, no one can be sworn into office as president of the United States without being a natural born citizen;
@DoubleTalkingJive A video appeared in which Michelle Obama said her husband's "home country" was Kenya, though her comments didn't specifically suggest his birth there. The video, posted April 3 on YouTube and forwarded by a score of Internet e-mails, shows Michelle Obama saying, "When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test."
@DoubleTalkingJive "If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"
Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."
@DoubleTalkingJive In March, 2010 a Kenyan lawmaker told the nation's Parliament that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore "not even a native American."
During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America's election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:
This attack on the Corsi book is obscene I hope the publisher becomes the new owner of this fraud of a news source who lied.
Well of course he is constitutionally ineligible. The democrat party for the first time refused to certify their candidate as constitutionally eligible. They actually removed the language from the paperwork. Never ever done that before. All candidates before him were declared constitutionally eligible by their party. Citizen does not make a Natral Born Citizen.
its amazing how the elite even use a man like trump who is powerful in the average persons eyes,the rothschilds can control trump.who owns the federal reserve....the rothschilds,and i quote from these vipers,"give me control of a nations currency and i care not who makes its laws"
A "natural born horse rider" is the child of a father and mother BOTH of which are horse riders. It is in the child's genes to be a horse rider, no matter which parents genes become dominant in the child as they are raised. If only ONE parent is a horse rider and the other is a bird watcher, then that child is in no way a NATURAL BORN HORSE RIDER. That child is HALF horse rider and HALF birdwatcher and it is questionable WHICH will be dominant in their life.
The CFR lame brain media should be flooded wiyh emails telling them what schmucks they are.... There is power in numbers.... I'm convinced that there are more people that are informed than there are those doing the cover-up...
@ideservehell4mysin Trump used Corsi! Corsi gave Trump the book back in April, Trump called Corsi several times during the time Trump was on TV challenging obama. I believe that Trump used Corsi, Trump walks away w/ 60 million & hasn't been heard from since. Trump screwed all his supporters that had hopes, all his talk was BS. Trump was bought out by NBC who supports obama. obama needed Trump 2 push the BC issue so he could release it before the book hit the market. Was Trump the trump card?
@mikestheman3 Your comment that "Trump was bought out by NBC who supports obama. obama needed Trump 2 push the BC issue so he could release it before the book hit the market. Was Trump the trump card?"
is a quite intereresting theory. If true, I wish it could be proved. Do you have anything to back the statement up?
@CPAsheldon Actually it was a theory because of the way everything so neatly fell into place, all the timing is more than just a coincidence, Trump has been silent since Apr. 28 about the BC . However, Alex Jones just posted an interview an hour ago again with Dr. Corsi. Trump called him today pumping info. from Corsi. Corsi asked him to further the birth issue & Trump isn't any longer interested, he now believes Trump is working for the WH. I may have hit it right on the nose, we'll see?
Corsi's evidence is HUGE and underscores the fraud the mainstream media has become today. The mainstream media is a total crock and marketing department for a broad range of illegal government activities. They need the support of the American people and it's sad that so many buy the media's false stories, hook line and sinker. How can these people look at themselves in the mirror? IMO they are traitors, who care more about their little position in the media than the well-being of America.
I may think Obama is a usurper but it hardly matters other than every document he ever signed will be pulled and filed in the trash can. Nothing will come of this because no one cares about the Constitution any longer.
@lickdacat2 but why today? And why is he releasing other incriminating information on Friday? If you have the documents, why is he spreading them out daily? That seems fishy to me.......
I am going to L-O-V-E hearing people like Bill,Glenn Beck,Sean Hannity and all the liberal media when they find out that their "messiah"is really just a long-legged mack daddy with a penchant for using fake ssn's and being linked to 58 homes across the country. Some of the "owners"of these homes are Tony Tiger, Steve Young, Tyra Banks and Tom Jones.
@mcap52 They all know already and are covering for him. They've had evidence placed in front of them numerous times with a documentation of his crimes. They are instructed to ignore it or ridicule it.
Hat's off and sincere Salute to Dr. Jerome Corsi!! A modern day American Hero!
We all know that the US could only be taken down from within. And the current Lamestream Media has been key in subverting the truth and being nothing more than a propaganda machine for the Leftwing Socialist/Communist enemies of America!
O'Reilly will never seriously investigate the truth surrounding Obama's citizenship because he's a ratings whore, only looking out for himself, and is afraid of the rabid Lefttards!
O what's a little fraud? Where's our sense of humor? We don't actually take the rule of law seriously, do we? How unhip we are! And that's all that really matters - being HIP! And Lord knows our President is THAT. So what's the problem here?
And so, that's all it takes to make the Republican establishment blink. Unbelievable. That's all it takes. They're dropping this scandal like a hot rock, TERRIFIED of looking UNHIP.
@glenwood183 Kudos for his past achievements, but he conducted a horrible interview. There is no excuse for him to not be aware of the Esquire scandal.
Most people, even in talk radio, don't follow this stuff by the hour. Moreover, Corsi himself said the media did not do much to correct the LIE. And I'm sure this show will be used as evidence, by WND during the trial.
Bob let Corsi talk and that's a great interview.
Any REAL CONSERVATIVE knows what Bob Grant means to talk radio, past and present. But I can't say I'm surprised that you don't. Particularly, after seeing that you think Eminem is the modern day James Dean.
You can just feel the frustration in Dr. Corsi's voice!
It's just absolutely shameful the way the MSM is treating this issue. The general public is not at fault for not being fired up over the issue. They need to be spoon fed their daily dose of news and that's exactly why the MSM is avoiding it like the plague. They won't even entertain the possibility this issue is relevant, for fear their viewers will be reminded. Epic fraud by Obama inc. Epic cover up by the MSM!
The lame-stream media is insulting the citizen's intelligence badly; personally I am willing to part-take in a revolt.. Unfortunately too many scared witless morons, we MUST ACT NOW!
Foxnews is spew, so is Al Jazeera and CNN. RT News is now broadcasting out of Washington DC just like Al Jazeera. Guess who owns the most stock in these companies? You Guessed George Soros? YOUR THE WINNER!
I think that this is not being pursued because of the OJ factor - the fear of riots if he is removed.
DONGOE 7 months ago
No !!!! BarackO lying !?!?! He would never lie !!!
If BarackO was Pinocchio his nose would make an elephant's look like a pug nose.
DONGOE 7 months ago
Damn this media. What a crock. And where is the gutless Sean Hannity? Why isn't he interviewing Corsi? The Republican tool is being told to stay away from the "birther" story. What a phony.
mojoidol 8 months ago
obama is a black person, not a dirty, filthy, illegal, homosexual, muslim coon like most people say. Just cause he has a fat, ugly, size 14 shoes, wife who got thrown out of law school for being an ignorant fraud, is no reason to blame him. He's just a dumb coon, so many just like him.
Petekiv 8 months ago
Corsi, Manning and Boyles are all patriots. Trump is scum. Read: Rick Wiley, May, 2011. Rick will devastate obama. We all know obama is a homosexual, illegal, muslim coon but Rick has proof that obama must be arrested for extorsion and fraud, On different charges! obama must go to prison. Let Rick explain. obama will be in prison, hopefully shortly. obama is true scum. Read it!
Petekiv 9 months ago
@156sbr You got that right!!!
CasperCee 9 months ago
@156sbr It's amazing. They (Obama supporters) will ignore that he paid money to keep his birth certificate (and his school records) hidden, took more than 2 years to show a (fake) birth certificate, yet they will spend all their time defending him.
I'm a graphic designer. I work extensively with Photoshop and illustrator. When I saw that "birth certificate", I knew right off the bat that it was a fake. You can tell that it has been edited. Look at the text/information. A curl & shade.......
CasperCee 9 months ago 2
@156sbr .. is on the left side, yet the page background remains flat. You can see that it was a copied/edited image placed on a green-paper and copied. At least 2 layers are visible.
Obama has been to Hawaii several times since being president, yet only shows something when a powerful man like Trump calls him on it.
Hawaii governor Ambercrombie (an Obama supporter) tried to find proof that Obama was born in Hawaii to end the claims that Obama was not eligible. He checked for records in ......
CasperCee 9 months ago
@156sbr ... every single hospital in Hawaii that would show Obama was born there. No records of Obama's birth or even his mother were found in any hospitals in Hawaii. The Obama supporters and the left-wing media ignores this. They ignore that Obama first claimed that he was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu until it was no records were found of his birth ( 808-538-9011 or 808-547-4361 for medical recors if you want to call & confirm). His sister then came out & said he was born.....
CasperCee 9 months ago
@156sbr .....at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Again, NO RECORD of Obama being born there (808-535-7000).
Brain-dead Obama supporters & left-wing media also ignore that Michelle Obama said that Kenya was Obama's "hometown". Obama's step-grandmother, Sarah Obama, said that she was present during Obama's birth in Mombasa, Kenya, then her interpreter insisted she mean to say Hawaii. Yet 2 members of the Luo tribe reported that Sarah Obama admits/confirms Obama's birth in Kenya.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@156sbr You have no proof Obama was born in Kenya, other than debunked Birther myths from 2008.
Stay delusional as the rest of the world passes you by...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Yeah and look how well that worked out for you. The same idiots you voted for en masse are trying to take destroy your demographics' Medicare.
And I'm personally going to enjoy watching Obama spank whoever you nominate.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr And enjoy your delusions of paranoid grandeur as you cling to your guns and Bible....
You're welcome to try again if you're still unwilling to let those pesky "facts" get in the way..
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive You are definitely intellectually bankrupt.
Facts are staring you right in the face & you refuse to acknowledge them?
Did you 'park' your brains?
Use the 'reasoning' powers that the God gave you.
ONLYthroughTHECROSS 9 months ago
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS You are talking to someone who is not able to think on a logical plane. They are brain-dead, liberal zombies who just repeat the crap all other liberals say. They ignore the truth and incapable of thinking for themselves.
Telling them that they even have brains is quite a compliment.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS .....who sued a state that passed a law to protect their border (and the border of the United States) from illegals and possibly terrorists coming in to harm America; who spits on our allies while helping out our enemies; who has traveled across the world & on every foreign land his foot touches he trashes America; who has sided with FOUR dictators; who has forced national health care down our throats even though over 65% of Americans didn't want it.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS .... and who voted AGAINST the Born Alive Infant Protection Act - an Act that guaranteed medical attention be given to a baby who survived an induced labor abortion: Obama voted to let a living baby die -- an act of murder. You are talking to someone who defends Obama even after our national debt has more tripled since he's been president, has the highest unemployment for the longest time in American history, who has the worst housing market since the Great Depression...
CasperCee 9 months ago
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS You are talking to someone (DoubleJiveTalking) who supported and voted Obama - an unqualified, unaccomplished man who was born a red-diaper baby, for his entire life was surrounded by people who hate America; was mentored by a member of the Communist Party USA; who studied, mastered, taught and uses the ideology of a radical Marxist; whose only accomplishments as a senator were voting "present" on a 138 bills because he couldn't make up his mind on a yes or no.........
CasperCee 9 months ago
@ONLYthroughTHECROSS I don't need someone who believes in a talking snake telling me what constitutes intelligence.
If you have something to add this to discussion, feel free. But please read your Bible and don't wave it...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Okay, you keep resorting to welfare queen remarks, and all I'm asking is for you to prove that Obama and/or McCain were either naturalized or somehow ineligible to be President.
It's not surprising that you're dodging the primary topic of debate and instead resorting to tired Conservative stereotyping.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Ever gonna post your fact(s) about Obama and McCain being ineligible that WASN'T debunked in 2008?
Didn't think so...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr I'm sorry to keep proving you wrong. I know how sensitive you Birthers get when someone outside of this deluded bubble Corsi, Taitz et al have constructed around you proves you wrong.
But insulting me and accusing me of being a welfare queen isn't gonna make Obama ineligible to be President.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr I'm sure you've witnssed A LOT of things.
However, this still has nothing to do with either McCain or Obama. Can you prove either man is a naturalized citizen?
Didn't think soo..
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr My paid-off 2004 Toyota Corolla would disagree with you, and again, check your laws. It's illegal for non-Cuban Americans to travel to Cuba without a special license from the Treasury Department. :-p
Oops!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr I think YOU should familiarize yourself with case law. That way you wouldn't be making these grand statements about McCain and Obama not being eligible to be President...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr ...And you witnessed nurses handing out green cards?
Where was this? I have some welfare queen illegal immigrant friends who would love to get their hands on a few..... :-p
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr They taught me that when American military families are abroad, and give birth to a child, that child is considered a natural-born citizen. Sorry to burst your bubble.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr And no. You posted a law referring to Americans going overeas and having children with women living overseas, who then raise that child in a foreign country.
And I'm the illiterate one??
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr I may not have the easiest time translating your horrific grammar into coherent English, but that doesn't mean I'm illiterate.
Your deluded fantasies that I'm some welfare queen is rather laughable, but honestly I'm not surprised. I've read comments from people like you for years. Whenever you post a debunked Birther Talking Point and someone smarter than you debunks it, you go off on a rant and accuse the other person of being uneducated and living off the system.
Nothing new here...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Who's uneducated? You're claiming that Obama and McCain somehow duped the entire country into thinking they were eligible for the Presidency, and split about 130 million votes between them.
We can't all be uneducated trash, can we??
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Yes, and according to the laws in place, both McCain and Obama are natural-born American citizens. :-p
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Dude, you're the one calling children born to military families overseas immigrants, and claiming that nurses in military hospitals are dropping green-cards into the babies' bassinets, when that is clearly not the case.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr So McCain is actually Panamanian?? Is he an illegal alien too?!?! Lol...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr I guess a United States Naval hospital on a United States Naval Air Station isn't American enough for you?
What are you implying? That McCain's American citizenship was "leased" as well? LOL!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Yes. Let's. You originally invoked it while trying to discredit McCain, however there's no record that McCain EVER went through the naturalization process (hint: He didn't have to. His parents were citizens).
And I'm gainfully employed, thank you. But it's no surprise that you think everybody to the left of Reagan is a welfare queen.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Ah yes. Anybody who proves you wrong must be a communist.
I'm not a communist. Just smarter than you. And able to interpret laws as they were written (and thusly interpreted by the Supreme Court). NOT by what I want them to mean.
Try again some other time...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Wow. Another Birther resorting to insults when all of his 2008 Birther Talking Points are once again debunked.
What a shock!!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr That law abolutely does NOT apply to American families giving birth on American military bases overseas (as you originally stated). Military bases are considered soverign United States territory.
That law applies if any American (not necessarily a soldier) goes to a foreign country, knocks up a foreign woman, the woman gives birth to his child abroad, and the child grows up in that country. The law ensures naturalization for that child.
What does this have to do with Obama??
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Save your criticism of Obama's policies for another video. That's not what I'm here for. You're welcome to disagree with any as many (or all) of the President's policies that you like.
But it doesn't mean he's illegally occupying the White House.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Dude, I saw all those videos THREE YEARS AGO! All that stuff has been debunked. You can guys can keep re-hashing this stuff until Obama quits in '17. Isn't gonna make any of it true.
LOL! Children born overseas to American parents don't have to go through the naturalization process, and most certainly weren't issued "green cards." Do you even know what a green card is?? Clearly not! Infants aren't issued them.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr And I'm sure you know Alan Keyes is hardly an objective party. He's the guy Obama SPANKED in the 2004 Illinois Senate election, getting 70% of the vote.
It's not a stretch to say Keyes is embittered and has a chip on his shoulder.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Are you familiar with the concept of "ancestral heritage"? That's why Michelle meant by "home country", and his grandmother meant by "son of this village." It's called HERITAGE.
My home country is Italy, even though I'm third-generation Italian-American.
And if you think McCain was ineligible, then you aren't familiar with American laws for American children born abroad.
You should do more research instead of reading right-wing blogs with Obama doctored up to look like the Joker.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Sarah Obama said it in the same interview where she said she witnessed Barack, Sr. birth. Literally right after (usually where the birthers cut off the tape).
She said repeatedly: "Barack was born in America. In Hawaii." There is no other record of her saying that her step-grandson was born in Kenya. NONE!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Okay, then why did you mention foreign diplomats if you weren't implying that Barack, Sr. was one?
You can't prove that Obama was born abroad. And the grandmother story was debunked years ago.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr He never fought anything. No court ever asked him to release his birt certificate.
The SSN "scandal" has been debunked again and again and again.
And the COLB Obama produced in 2008 was a perfectly legal and acceptable proof of identification, per the Hawaii State Department and the Full Faith and Credit clause in the Constitution.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr Yes you do. It's called "jus solis", or "birthright citizenship." It's been the law of the land in America since 1868.
Per Wong Kim Ark, the only children excluded from birthright citizenship are the children of foreign diplomats, foreign heads of state, and the children of foreigners who are currently occupying the United States due to a hostile military invasion. None of those things apply to the President.
Michelle never said he was born in Kenya. And no I'm not a stooge.
NEXT!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@156sbr On what planet was Barack, Sr. a foreign diplomat? He was a COLLEGE STUDENT on a STUDENT VISA! Another piece of legislation you're citing that is NOT applicable to the President.
His grandmother said REPEATEDLY in that interview: "Barack was born in America." Listen to the ENTIRE audio of the interview. The interviewer mentioned both Obama Sr. and Jr. interchangably, which caused confusion and which is why she said she witnessed her step-son's birth. She stated Obama was born here.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
Corsi is a patriot and a hero. Him and Peter Boyles have exposed obama. Corsi has said that after he's done with obama, the next piece of garbage he's going after is Donald Trump. Trump is a true, lying, dirtbag who steals from and ruins other people. Trump must be taken down, he is scum. Trump has little money himself, he lives off his father. obama is a homosexual, illegal muslim porch monkey. Go to: Her Name is Ms Ann. Manning will explain. o'reilly is a scum liar.
Petekiv 9 months ago
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Blufftonbabe 9 months ago
Trump is an enormous disappointment in that he promised he'd have that ridiculous new BC checked out by his "EXPERTS". His experts must be idiots as since 15 minutes after it was posted, all of us on FB saw proof it was fake. Hate to think Trump is that good an actor because he had some of us going for a while, altho it was in the back of my mind that he was doing this to help BO get the issue out of the way before campaign season. What a creep. Both of them.
Blufftonbabe 9 months ago
The mainstream media is part of the establishment protecting the usurper Obama. The American people must do their job for them, spread the word about Obama's ineligibility, fraud, and criminal cover-up, and pressure anyone in power who cares about America and who has a conscience to take action.
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vastell 9 months ago
This is super - duper, balls to the walls retarded. Just double down on the retardation, when that doesn't work, triple down. This is "God of the Gaps" in action, now with retardo-birther action!
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Infomaniack 9 months ago
When Barack Obama was elected, it was a takeover of the United States government! George Soros is behind it! Our own Supreme Court would not listen to any cases against him! Our Senators, Representatives and Supreme Court are behind this; and all of them are panty wastes for not speaking up against it! If I were running this; I'd say "YOU ARE ALL FIRED!".
eggnog62 9 months ago
The fraudulent birth certificate; is a fact. Obama should get his money back; because as a draftsman for the Moore Business Forms; I could have come up with something better than that! My opinion; AND THE LAW, is that Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama i.e. Barry Soetoro in Indonesia; and the law in our US is that the previous birth certificate is expunged! Case closed!
eggnog62 9 months ago 2
@eggnog62 That last sentence made no absolutely no sense, which isn't surprising...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
Bill O'Reilly is worthless. He is hated by liberals but tries to curry favor with them and in the process alienates conservatives.
The reason McCain needed two US citizen parents was he was born in Panama. If you are born on US soil you don't need either parent to be American -- thus, the anchor baby concept.
007ObiWan 9 months ago
@007ObiWan To be president, you must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. To be a natural born citizen, BOTH PARENTS MUST BE AMERICAN CITIZENS.
Obama's father was NOT an American citizen.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee WRONG!!!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive From the LAW OF NATIONS:
Excerpt 2. de Vattel's LAW OF NATIONS circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, Sec. 212:
"The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The country, of parents who are citizens. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tactic consent."
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Again, not in the Consitution or any Supreme Court decision related to citizenship. We're governed by the Constitution, not the Law of Nations.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive From the CONSTITUTION:
Excerpt 1. Article II, Sec. 1:
"No person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, al the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president;"
Excerpt 3, Article I, Sec. 8:
The Congress shall have the Power…. to define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the LAW O F NATIONS.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Thank for you quoting that and proving my point. The Law of Nations' definition of citizenship isn't in the Consitution, or any other law on the books.
Read the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court decision and learn something...
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive There is no way a person who has Dual Citizenship, or who has had Dual Citizenship, should be eligible under Article II. As you will see in Part Two there is good evidence that Senator Barack Obama is such a person, that Governor Bill Richardson may also be and that Senator John McCain is not. By definition NATURAL BORN = BORN IN THE (SOLE) ALLEGIANCE OF THE USA, not born on US Soil.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee And where did you get that definition from? It's not in any law on the books. Sorry.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The US State Department says, ” Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person’s allegiance. However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries.”
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Dude, you just quoted a passage that refers to an American citizen getting incarcerated in a foreign country. The State Department is commenting on the ability of American embassies abroad to assist with said incarcerated citizen.
That has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama. LOL!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive US Law says nothing about Dual Nationality at all, it simply accepts that some people have it, but if Naturalized Citizens cannot be POTUS because they have previously had another Allegiance, and that is exactly why they can’t, then Dual Nationals can’t either, in fact there is less excuse for them.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee You're confusing dual citizens with dual allegiances. There are entirely different.
Obama never lived in England, never voted in a UK election, never served in the British Armed Forces, and never swore a oath to the Queen.
THAT would be a dual allegiance. Like Schwarzenegger for instance. He was born and raised in Austria, served in the Austrian Army, etc.
Again, none of this applies to Obama. He was born in the States and has lived all but 4 years of his life here.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Swayne was quoting the Precedent of English Common Law and Justice Sir William Blackstone, who said: “And this maxim of the law proceeded upon a general principle, that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once.”
Obama was born with dual citizenship - both American and Kenyan.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Yep. Says nothing about parents' ciitizenship, does it?
Oops!!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The POTUS had to have only ONE Allegiance. The old Precedent Case for Article II was United States v. Rhodes and in that Case Justice Swayne said, “All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this Country…since as before the Revolution.”
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Again, prove Obama has a foreign allegiance. He's only lived in one other country besides the States, and that was for four years in Indonesia going to GRADE SCHOOL. Hardly a foreign allegiance.
And wow you actually just made my point by quoting "Birth and allegiance go together" and "All persons born in the allegiance of the United State are Natural-Born Citizens". Obama was born and raised here. Guess where his allegiance is??
Oops! Birther FAIL!!
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive No, the Framers were talking about Allegiance, Loyalty.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The United States Naturalization Act of March 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104, which was written, partly, to clarify Article II says this, “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”. The Framers were clear that you did not have to be born in the USA, or in a State; you could be born anywhere.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee First of all, that law has been superseded numerous times, particularly the NA of 1795, and of course the 14th Amendment.
And again, you quoted a section that refered to children born OUTSIDE OF THE U.S.! It's not applicable to Obama at all.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Article II of the Constitution of the United States DOES NOT mean what almost everybody thinks that it means. When it says, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; ….and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”, it ISN’T talking about WHERE the POTUS is born.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Okay, and? I'm not disputing where Obama was born. I accept that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. Why are you telling me this?
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Anybody born in territory over which the United States claims legal jurisdiction, at the time of birth, and both of whosePARENTS are United States Citizens is inter alia, and by definition, a natural-born citizen of the USA.
Anyone else inter alia, and by definition, though they be born a Citizen under the XIVth Amendment but of parents of differing allegiance, is not and cannot be a natural-born citizen.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Google "Wong Kim Ark Decision" and then give it a read. We'll talk further then.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive To be a Natural Born Citizen one has to be born in a State, or Condition of, Allegiance to the USA. A person with Dual Nationality due to having parents of differing Nationality, who both acknowledged the Birth, is not so born. Their Allegiance is, by definition, divided. Subsequent acquisition of Nationality produces the same problem.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Justice Swayne was a good logical thinker, deeply versed in Common Law, both English and American. The key word is Allegiance: “born in the Allegiance of the United States”, not “within the Territory”, or “on the soil of”.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Umm according to the Supreme Court opinion that you've quoted TWICE, there's no difference between birth and allegiance, so you just screwed your own argument. :-p
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive But is United States v. Rhodes dealing with only jus soli? Because The United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) states “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee First of all, US v Rhodes was a fucking Army Sgt. who was charged with TREASON! It was not, unlike Wong Kim Ark, a citizenship case.
Secondly, you don't realize this but by quoting that opinion you're making my argument for me! "Birth and allegiance go together" implies that Obama's allegiance was HERE simply by being born HERE.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive This is invariably taken to be a statement of pure jus soli based upon Calvin’s Case, 77 Eng. Rep. 377 (1608), which established that under English Common Law “a person’s status was vested at birth, and based upon place of birth–a person born within the King’s Dominion owed Allegiance to the Sovereign, and in turn, was entitled to the King’s protection.”
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Casper again, you keep making my arguments for me. "Jus solis" laws, which American has, means that Obama is natural-born and is eliglbe to be President.
Jus solis laws are also why the children of illegal immigrants are giving citizenship simply by being born here.
You're clearly just grabbing cherry-picked quotes from every direction, and don't seem to you even know what you're quoting.
You need to do more research without relying on right-wing blogs.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive “All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this country…since as before the Revolution.”
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive He wasn’t a man whose advice could be ignored. Note that what particularly concerned Jay was not a political issue but a military issue arising because the President is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. He was bothered by issues of National Security.
-- United States v. Rhodes
In United States v. Rhodes, Supreme Court Justice Noah Haynes Swayne (December 7, 1804 – June 8, 1884) addressed the issue as follows:
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The Convention agreed and without debate the provision suggested by Jay was written into the Constitution. That Jay’s advice was taken is not surprising because in his career Jay was President of the Continental Congress, Chief Justice of the New York Supreme Court, 1st Chief Justice of the United States, Ambassador to Spain and France, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Secretary of State) and Governor of New York, among other things.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Yes, but the Constiution still makes no reference to the citizenship of one's parents, so you're half-correct, and still wrong on the eligbility issue.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Still, why were Naturalized Citizens excluded in the first place? The answer to that lies in the genesis of Article II. It did not spring fully armed and fully grown out of nowhere as Athena sprang from the head of Zeus. It began with a letter. On July 25th, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, then Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention:
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee I'm not here to comment as to why Naturalized citizens aren't eligible. It's the law of the land, and there's no evidence that Obama is a naturalized citizen (hint: People who are born on U.S. soil don't have to go through the naturalization process).
We can debate that at another time. Stick to Obama.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive This is not altering Article II but clarifying the meaning of Article II and in so doing it makes clear that it was never the case that one had to be born in the USA to be eligible for the Office of President, one did not need to be Native Born, but one did need to be a Citizen by Birth. However the term Natural Born goes beyond that.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Again, go read the Wong Kim Ark decision. You will see that there is NO such difference between "native-born" and "natural-born." The WKA decision has been the law of the land for 113 years. Hate to break it to ya.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizen
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive
In short, there is no relevance to Article II in any modern legislation, so you have to determine who is and who is not a Natural Born Citizen by finding out what the men who framed it meant. The Act of 1790 is significant not in itself but because it speaks to the Intention of those who less than three years before Drafted the Constitution and Article II and who also Drafted the Act. The Act states:
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Dude, why do you keep quoting a REPEALED law?!
The NA of 1790 stated that only "free white persons" could emigrate to the States and become citizens. That means no blacks, Asians, or slaves could be citizens.
It has been superseded countless time since then. You need to get your clocks fixed.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The term Natural Born Citizen occurs in US Law in two places: The Constitution itself and the United States Naturalization Act of March 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive The Wong Kim Ark Decision was made in 1898.....AFTER the he United States Naturalization Act of January 29, 1795.
Congress cannot change the meaning of The Constitution by Legislation.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee *Sigh*
Another repealed law. The NA of 1795 was repealed by the NA of 1798, which itself was repealed in 1802.
I'm gonna write this in caps so you get it: YOU'RE QUOTING REPEALED LAWS!!!!
Now stop making excuses and go read Wong Kim Ark.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Just because Obama was supposedly born in Hawaii does NOT MEAN his allegiance is to America.
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree". Do some research on Obama, his parents, who mentored him. Look up Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinksy, Cloward & Piven, William Ayers, Raila Odinga; look at the groups supporting Obama: Communist Party USA, Louis Ferrakhan and the Nation of Islam; look at his choices for his Czars: John Holdren, Kevin Jennings, Van Jones, Carol Browner.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Okay you're completely off on another tangent.
Stick to the matter at hand. Did you read the Wong Kim Ark decision yet??
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Obama was adopted by an Indonesian national stepfather as a child, potentially abrogating his "natural born citizen" status;
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee How? Obama couldn't have renounced his American citizenship, and it couldn't have been renounced on his behalf.
You don't just "lose" your citizenship if you move to a foreign country for a couple of years. Americans can come and go as they please.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive Obama has claimed to be the son of a Kenyan national and a subject of the United Kingdom at birth;
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee He didn't claim to be the son of a Kenyan national; he IS the son of a Kenyan national. A parents' American citizenship (or lack thereof) has NO bearing on an American-born child's natural-born citizenship.
Read the Wong Kim Ark decision.
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive By requirement of the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, no one can be sworn into office as president of the United States without being a natural born citizen;
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive A video appeared in which Michelle Obama said her husband's "home country" was Kenya, though her comments didn't specifically suggest his birth there. The video, posted April 3 on YouTube and forwarded by a score of Internet e-mails, shows Michelle Obama saying, "When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test."
They are liars and covering up his past.
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Yep. Italy is my home country too, although I was born here and my family is 110 years from Italy.
Are you familiar with the concept of ancestral heritage??
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive "If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"
Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."
CasperCee 9 months ago
@DoubleTalkingJive In March, 2010 a Kenyan lawmaker told the nation's Parliament that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore "not even a native American."
During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America's election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:
CasperCee 9 months ago
@CasperCee Did he present any evidence to source that claim? Of course not.
Do you have any evidence that proves Obama was born there? Of course not!!
But he's correct that Obama is not descended from any known Native-American tribes. :-p
DoubleTalkingJive 9 months ago
RT News is stock-owned by George Soros.....
TBaker1964 9 months ago
This attack on the Corsi book is obscene I hope the publisher becomes the new owner of this fraud of a news source who lied.
Well of course he is constitutionally ineligible. The democrat party for the first time refused to certify their candidate as constitutionally eligible. They actually removed the language from the paperwork. Never ever done that before. All candidates before him were declared constitutionally eligible by their party. Citizen does not make a Natral Born Citizen.
pataskalagirl 9 months ago 2
Oreilly is a total spinning FRAUD, just Like barry soetoro
nobody19133 9 months ago
its amazing how the elite even use a man like trump who is powerful in the average persons eyes,the rothschilds can control trump.who owns the federal reserve....the rothschilds,and i quote from these vipers,"give me control of a nations currency and i care not who makes its laws"
ideservehell4mysin 9 months ago 2
A "natural born horse rider" is the child of a father and mother BOTH of which are horse riders. It is in the child's genes to be a horse rider, no matter which parents genes become dominant in the child as they are raised. If only ONE parent is a horse rider and the other is a bird watcher, then that child is in no way a NATURAL BORN HORSE RIDER. That child is HALF horse rider and HALF birdwatcher and it is questionable WHICH will be dominant in their life.
JEDIALADDIN 9 months ago 2
i dont know how bill can look at him self in the mirror. He is a fake and lying reporter..
dj4real4546 9 months ago
The CFR lame brain media should be flooded wiyh emails telling them what schmucks they are.... There is power in numbers.... I'm convinced that there are more people that are informed than there are those doing the cover-up...
JakeBlakeProject 9 months ago
trump was just a guinea pig so Obama can produce a bc,now where's trump?
ideservehell4mysin 9 months ago
@ideservehell4mysin Trump used Corsi! Corsi gave Trump the book back in April, Trump called Corsi several times during the time Trump was on TV challenging obama. I believe that Trump used Corsi, Trump walks away w/ 60 million & hasn't been heard from since. Trump screwed all his supporters that had hopes, all his talk was BS. Trump was bought out by NBC who supports obama. obama needed Trump 2 push the BC issue so he could release it before the book hit the market. Was Trump the trump card?
mikestheman3 9 months ago 4
@mikestheman3 Your comment that "Trump was bought out by NBC who supports obama. obama needed Trump 2 push the BC issue so he could release it before the book hit the market. Was Trump the trump card?"
is a quite intereresting theory. If true, I wish it could be proved. Do you have anything to back the statement up?
CPAsheldon 9 months ago
@CPAsheldon Actually it was a theory because of the way everything so neatly fell into place, all the timing is more than just a coincidence, Trump has been silent since Apr. 28 about the BC . However, Alex Jones just posted an interview an hour ago again with Dr. Corsi. Trump called him today pumping info. from Corsi. Corsi asked him to further the birth issue & Trump isn't any longer interested, he now believes Trump is working for the WH. I may have hit it right on the nose, we'll see?
mikestheman3 9 months ago
Ron Paul doesnt want anything to do with this...
TheeAntiChrist2013 9 months ago 2
Corsi's evidence is HUGE and underscores the fraud the mainstream media has become today. The mainstream media is a total crock and marketing department for a broad range of illegal government activities. They need the support of the American people and it's sad that so many buy the media's false stories, hook line and sinker. How can these people look at themselves in the mirror? IMO they are traitors, who care more about their little position in the media than the well-being of America.
twandbl 9 months ago 6
I may think Obama is a usurper but it hardly matters other than every document he ever signed will be pulled and filed in the trash can. Nothing will come of this because no one cares about the Constitution any longer.
brder4ev 9 months ago
@brder4ev Well this is certainly doing to determine whether that is true or not. I am afraid you are correct however...
billp4 9 months ago
It's time to get to the MF's behind Obama/Bush..that's where the real problems lie.
IronRangeSurvival 9 months ago
Corsi is going to release documents today that will prove without a doubt Obama is a total fraud and an illegal alien to top it all off.
lickdacat2 9 months ago
@lickdacat2 but why today? And why is he releasing other incriminating information on Friday? If you have the documents, why is he spreading them out daily? That seems fishy to me.......
ConcernedONETOO 9 months ago 2
I proudly stopped watching any of the cable news channels..including Fox!!
njmhk 9 months ago 3
arrest Barry and the whole corrupt cogress. Traitors will hang.
TheFloydReport 9 months ago
I am going to L-O-V-E hearing people like Bill,Glenn Beck,Sean Hannity and all the liberal media when they find out that their "messiah"is really just a long-legged mack daddy with a penchant for using fake ssn's and being linked to 58 homes across the country. Some of the "owners"of these homes are Tony Tiger, Steve Young, Tyra Banks and Tom Jones.
mcap52 9 months ago
@mcap52 They all know already and are covering for him. They've had evidence placed in front of them numerous times with a documentation of his crimes. They are instructed to ignore it or ridicule it.
MyMaeve 9 months ago 3
Hat's off and sincere Salute to Dr. Jerome Corsi!! A modern day American Hero!
We all know that the US could only be taken down from within. And the current Lamestream Media has been key in subverting the truth and being nothing more than a propaganda machine for the Leftwing Socialist/Communist enemies of America!
O'Reilly will never seriously investigate the truth surrounding Obama's citizenship because he's a ratings whore, only looking out for himself, and is afraid of the rabid Lefttards!
CaptCody2 9 months ago
O what's a little fraud? Where's our sense of humor? We don't actually take the rule of law seriously, do we? How unhip we are! And that's all that really matters - being HIP! And Lord knows our President is THAT. So what's the problem here?
And so, that's all it takes to make the Republican establishment blink. Unbelievable. That's all it takes. They're dropping this scandal like a hot rock, TERRIFIED of looking UNHIP.
MyFriendLeonard1 9 months ago
What a depressing video. Poor Dr. Corsi. All he can get to interview him is some senile old relic.
OneLaBonBon 9 months ago
@OneLaBonBon
Your ignorance has no floor. Corsi was a guest on the most listened to talk station, in the entire nation, for 20+ minutes.
Please, get a CLUE!
glenwood183 9 months ago
Barry is so desperate that he's visiting his "ancestral homeland- Ireland."
reevaluate2008 9 months ago
@reevaluate2008 I hope they keep him.
MyFriendLeonard1 9 months ago
@MyFriendLeonard1 We should be so lucky.
reevaluate2008 9 months ago
lets hope for the best and barry gets sent packing
GONECRUISING72 9 months ago
Impeach the kenyan and deport the criminal
savior02 9 months ago
Who the hell is Bob? Sounds like he's about 150 years old. What a dumbell!
OneLaBonBon 9 months ago
@OneLaBonBon
Bob Grant has been in talk radio for 63 years, genius. As Rush says, "Bob Grant paved the way for the rest of us."
glenwood183 9 months ago
@glenwood183 Kudos for his past achievements, but he conducted a horrible interview. There is no excuse for him to not be aware of the Esquire scandal.
OneLaBonBon 9 months ago
@OneLaBonBon
Most people, even in talk radio, don't follow this stuff by the hour. Moreover, Corsi himself said the media did not do much to correct the LIE. And I'm sure this show will be used as evidence, by WND during the trial.
Bob let Corsi talk and that's a great interview.
Any REAL CONSERVATIVE knows what Bob Grant means to talk radio, past and present. But I can't say I'm surprised that you don't. Particularly, after seeing that you think Eminem is the modern day James Dean.
glenwood183 9 months ago
@OneLaBonBon What do you have against old people?
reevaluate2008 9 months ago
You can just feel the frustration in Dr. Corsi's voice!
It's just absolutely shameful the way the MSM is treating this issue. The general public is not at fault for not being fired up over the issue. They need to be spoon fed their daily dose of news and that's exactly why the MSM is avoiding it like the plague. They won't even entertain the possibility this issue is relevant, for fear their viewers will be reminded. Epic fraud by Obama inc. Epic cover up by the MSM!
kanukster 9 months ago 2
The lame-stream media is insulting the citizen's intelligence badly; personally I am willing to part-take in a revolt.. Unfortunately too many scared witless morons, we MUST ACT NOW!
ImpeachAllCriminals1 9 months ago 5
Even if you offer Bill O'Reilly a million bucks he will NEVER EVER have Jerome Corsi on his show....
AMAZINGXPRESS 9 months ago 24
Foxnews is spew, so is Al Jazeera and CNN. RT News is now broadcasting out of Washington DC just like Al Jazeera. Guess who owns the most stock in these companies? You Guessed George Soros? YOUR THE WINNER!
Just toss that TV away. ;-)
Zalahblue 9 months ago 6
ha ha ha! Bob Grant is always a dollar short and a day late!
AH ha ha ha. absolutely priceless! Same thing happened with the UK and Mike Savage issue.
WhitePlumeMountain 9 months ago 2
@WhitePlumeMountain Great video, I hope WND buries Esquire, and exposes Obama for the fraud, lying usurper that he is!
WhitePlumeMountain 9 months ago 33