@lilbeaveymac - in the Jewish faith, they sing hymns about Moses, who was the prophet of the restoration during that dispensation. Some find their meetings as dead, stale, and boring... but are we only on earth here to have fun?
@THELDSLIFE im not saying church should be fun,and yes work isnt fun but we still go to work.i still attend dude,last time i went the bishop looked like he was half asleep i had a girl and her man dozing off.then i have to go to priesthood meeting and hear about the dangers of pornography for an hour .....not to mention the testimonies sound as if they are missing the mark.nice architecture ,nicely dressed people and dim lighting aside i think the church is hollow,a dark void.
@THELDSLIFE ok first lest start with this one question-do you believe the bible is corrupted?? step one....dont block me and answer me honestly!!.Be Christlike and tell the truth......Do you believe the bible is trustworthy?? lets start there..............
@liamlloyd77 Joseph Smith was reportedly sealed to 33 women but due to lack of records keeping and some things being lost in the constant pursuit of church leaders and mob justice, not all records have been restored to their proper order. It is unclear as to how many actual women were sealed to Joseph but it is more than ACCURATE to suggest that he was sealed to these women in a WINO or "Wed in name only" as no children were produced by any of the unions and this is 100% historically confirmed.
Im not looking into the meaning of this. Because I will already tell you would I beat the living shit out of them and use them as an example to everyone when I find the source of "THEM".
Look... if people want to believe in this, okay, if EVERYONE thats like me want them to be like that whatever. Is HEIRARCHY cool with this? No comment... if they were to give me reasons why and I told them what I thought and PROVED so many points and they just said why they did this... okay whatever I wont look into it.
FAITH COMES BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD. Romans 10:17
The ability to believe is not determined by how i feel when i pray but by the knowledge of truth found in the word of Christ. Truth is objective, unbiased. Feelings are subjective. Knowledge of truth is critical. Acts 17:2,3.
When something big is at stake I want to put may faith in something concrete,objective and unbiased rather than how I feel about it.
@katoman76 It all comes down on whether you believe the Bible alone is the authoritative word of God. If you don't believe that than, you're no different than jehova's witnesses, islam, and any other man-made religions. They are all sincere you know, but they can't all have the truth, can they? Bye
@SeanImron You know it says the same thing in Deutoronomy...maybe we should exclude everything after Deuteronomy huh? Including the Book of Rev? Enough if your bigotry.
@blackmamba54321 - you make a good point. Maybe the Israelite movement after Joshua could be considered a "radical sect" who continued it's work outside the bounds which Moses had set! Since we CLEARLY can see that Moses did not intend any more to be written based on Deut 4:2-4...
@SeanImron - I'd be extremely interest in knowing where God has written anything down anywhere. Do you have news for the world because it's news to me!
I know God has written at least twice as indicated by the Old Testament.
Where else has God written something with his own two hands? Why are you holding out on us?
@THELDSLIFE woah there don't get your panties in a bunch Im sorry and apologize I did not realize that you were mentally incapable of understanding that by his book I meant scripture (by that I mean real scripture not bull written using magic glasses and disappearing golden tablets). Have you even read the bible? Maybe you should, the Lord will forgive you, all you have to do is ask... well and change. I mean Mormonism is is one step up from Wicca practically a Neo-pagan religion.
@SeanImron John 20:30-31 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
@katoman76 you listed some interesting things so here is my list maybe it will bring you to the light and convert you to Christianity (which Mormon is not)
"Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35 "Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me." Isaiah 43:10 God is eternal – without beginning or end. An eternal being doesn’t come into existence, but rather always exists and always will (aka God is not Adam and no you will never be one)
@SeanImron Since you could not defend your quotation of Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19 versus John 20:30-31and John 21:25 and the meaning of book as "this book", show me where in the bible (book of books) appears the word "bible"? or that one could understand that they were refering to a compilation of books that had not yet occurred?
@SeanImron You are so supported in the bible and you don't know how the bible got to become the bible? You know how many times it has been translated? who firstly gathered these beautiful scriptures and took from it precious things in order to gain power? it's general history. Which things are now being found in the Dead Sea Scrolls which are not manipulated. Dude, you are the one who really needs to be converted, but not by me, but the power of the Holy Ghost.
@SeanImron The term "book" represents "this book" of Revelations or Deuteronomy or any other book written by a prophet. The Bible (book of books) was not called like that until the 700 A.C. by the Roman empire when it was fully gathered. So, they could not referred to the whole book of books, because it had not been fully gathered at that time. Got that?
@katoman76 )…Oh and here are some that don’t even need textual proof Blood atonement, Polygamy, Your Prophet got a revelation from “God” while practicing magic? Does that sound like God or Satan, who apparently is Jesus’ and your spirit brother?
@SeanImron Show me where in the bible says that God changes His ways (Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever). That God said it all and that He cannot rise a prophet again (Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets). Are you sure you are reading the Bible?
@SeanImron Also, the term "add" means to change or say a different way to the gospel he was teaching. The Book of Mormon talks about Jesus Christ as our savior and redeemer, faith, repentance, baptism, the Holy Ghost, etc. It teaches us how to pray to Our Heavenly Father and recognize His answer through His Spirit. Could you tell me which part of this differs from the Gospel?
@katoman76 And speaking of practicing magic, that’s how your book was written using a magic hat and a rock and disappearing gold tablets. But really there is no reason to argue both our churches have thousands of years of credibility behind them right?
@SeanImron Sure, mine has been fully restored in this last dispensation and shall not be taken from earth and yours the church of the Devil who is the father of lies. By the way, yours is SO united.What's the name of your church? How many times have the Evangelicals divided into different denominations? the church of Paul, the church of Peter, etc. If you are so consistant, why is it that you cannot hold yourselves into one?
God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—
From lds.org and Joe Smith -I will go back to the beginning before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth, for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why He interferes with the affairs of man. Cont:
@TH3B3A57 Feel free to spot by one of their Ward houses, they will be only too happy to indoctrinate you into the cult. Remember, there is a 10% salary reduction required from each of your paychecks and their prefer people who are "white and delightsome."
@Farmerat911 Ah. I just wish to learn. =) I have no intentions of being an LDS. I already know the way, the truth, and the life. I'm just interested in learning about them. And teaching THEM the TRUTH
Joesph Smith had sex with 14 year olds ( among his 34 wives). He married other peoples wives, he broke into the newspaper in Navoo, he made fake money, he got convicted of fraud in NY. want more?
@Farmerat911 - according to whom? Broke into the newspaper? Do you even know what you are talking about? 4rd or 5th hand information gets very distorted.
@Farmerat911 - According to whom? Children/offspring produced from any of those marriages? Writer of the Book? His credibility? First-hand account? Eye witnesses who watched his plural marital affairs? On the contrary. It is well documented with whom he had offspring and with whom he did not and any of the above mentioned females listed did not have children and unless they had more advanced methods of birth control back in the day, other than pulling out which is a sin, then no evidence of sex.
Believe whatever you want to, that is up to you but the evidence is out there if you look. So, Joseph Smith didn't usurp his power as Mayor of Navoo to destroy a printing press, that was about to publish some "not so nice things" about him?
@Farmerat911 - I wasn't there and you don't know the events first hand what occurred or whether Joseph felt sorry enough to ask forgiveness but if its anything but
"God shouldn't save Joseph or he's goiong to hell because I think he's wrong" puts you in danger too. Jesus said it best. He that hath not sin, cast the first stone."
It sounds like, in your mind, that being a prophet means he must be perfect. Can you name me one prophet in the Old or New testament that lived perfectly save Jesus?
I am not religious. However, I like to think that the great people of the modern world, Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa, etc., were not out committing significant criminal acts. I will grant you that they all committed some civil disobiedence but that is fundementally different. As I said before, believe whatever you want to, I just find the whole Mormon doctrine to be unusual. I, personally, could never believe it.
@Farmerat911 - It's not my responsibility to convince you.
If there is a God, and God is God, then he alone would have the burden of proof to repay to his children. It's a journey that requires faith and not many take it seriously enough. If you've read anything in the Bible or the Book of Mormon, the general messages has been, "If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask it of God and he will give us the knowledge that we desire IF we ask with a sincere heart, real intent, and FAITH. Care to try?
@Farmerat911 - I do know, however, that Joseph said this upon possibly leaving and not returning to Nauvoo, he said, "If my life means nothing to my friends, then it means nothing to me." He faced down his error or mistake. Whether the slanderous article printed against him was true or not, I think that one act of frustration with a lifetime of persecution, personal attacks, and hatred against him, Joseph showed MUCH restraint for his entire life. But that's just my opinion. We are only human.
@hanohanonacowboy - when they tarred and feathered him, he never returned railing for railing. Who would suffer through this their entire life and up until the day that he died? No sane person would unless he truly had divine guidance. Something apparently you wouldn't have to worry about having because it's an easier life to just live "Okay"
@THELDSLIFE: "Something apparently you wouldn't have to worry about having because it's an easier life to just live "Okay""
--You know nothing of my life. Is this the best defense Mormons can muster for their immoral meddling that harmed hundreds of thousands of families-- merely making up falsehoods about those who criticize you rather than answering honestly for your actions?
If this is the best testimony you can offer, it's no wonder your Church is little more than a punch line.
The funny thing is that I am not anti-mormon. I just find the whole "religion" to be comically absurd. I don't care what you (or anyone else) believes, but if it floats your boat that is great.
Looks like the point of this video is that anyone who disagrees with the doctrines of the LDS Church or who criticizes anything at all that Mormons do, does do because they are "anti-Mormon". It could never, ever be because Mormons might sometimes be...well... wrong.
Reminds me of that "falsehood" at 0:51 "Mormons are brainwashed by their leaders and are not allowed to question them". This video's position that "any criticism of us is 'anti-Mormonism' sounds an awful lot like brainwashing to me.
@hanohanonacowboy - no the point of this videos is don't be a dummy who would dedicate their lives at tearing down. That's not what Jesus did. He didn't come to earth to tear down the romans or criticize the Jews. In change, the Jews were the modern day version of the "Anti-Mormons" who repeatedly accused Jesus of Heretical preaching and eventually slayed him. His restored Church would receive no different a treatment. Violent opposition has always been dished out by mediocre minds, right?
@THELDSLIFE None of the opponents in your video is violent. Most appear to be stating honest concerns and complaints about Mormons and their actions. You could answer their complaints with logic... or you could just make a blanket statement that they are all "anti-Mormon". In the first case, someone might actually listen to you. In the second case, why should they?
If you can't answer your critics with facts and logic instead of name-calling, this does not say much for your faith.
At 0:05 a sign recommends taxing the LDS Church. The photo comes from a rally where the Church was accused of using tax-exempt funds to run a political campaign. Do you have an honest defense?
At 0:18 a protestor calls the Mormons a "cult". Certainly Mormons used force to compel others to obey their dogma, as cults do. Do you have an honest response why Americans should not conclude you are a cult? Or is your only response that "Folks actually schedule time for this"?
@THELDSLIFE At 0:51 a sign implies that Mormons believe in polygamy. Can you cite current Church teaching that contradicts that claim? Most Saints can. Or will you just call the sign-maker "anti-Mormon"?
By the way-- if your marriage is sealed in the Temple, how long does it last?
If wife #1 dies, and you marry a 2nd in the Temple, how long are you married to her? If #2 dies and you marry a third, how many wives will you have for eternity?
@THELDSLIFE The guy with the sign at 1:09 says you spent $40 million on hate and fear when you paid for a political campaign to remove your neighbors' legal marriage rights. Your response was about "MILLIONS" spent on "anti-Mormon propoganda".
Looks to me like the guy spent 5 bucks on poster board and a magic marker, while you spent gazillions to take away his civil rights.
Do you have any excuse at all, other than calling this citizen yet another "anti-Mormon" who's out to get you?
@THELDSLIFE At 1:59 you complain that anti-Mormons "mock our missionary efforts".
Missionaries present themselves honestly. They sincerly try to share the restored gospel, believing that the truth of God's doctrine is sufficient to bring others to Him.
But Tom Monson and his cronies--and the Mormons who paid for California's Prop 8 campaign--TRULY mocked those missionaries when they used money to FORCE others to obey LDS doctrine.
Doesn't say much for their faith, in my own opinion.
@THELDSLIFE See how it works, LDSLIFE? You could have taken the claims of any of those folks in your video and made an honest answer to support your beliefs or to excuse your actions.
You could have posted facts about modern-LDS teaching on polygamy or Joseph Smith's supposed underage wives or whatever.
Instead, you just called all the critics all "anti-Mormon", as if that expalins it all away.
I don't think you're "brainwashed", brother. Just lazy.
Thank you very much for this vid "THELDSLIFE". I'm a french LDS and it's not easy everyday ... but I love my Lord, I love the Gospel and I love my church. I knew from the beginning I woud meet "opposition". And in France, an atheist country (and proud of it :-( ) it's even more difficult to be christian. So when I watch your video trying to restaure the truth, I feel really better.
I did my research outside of South Park. I don't take everything they say at face value.
I also don't believe in ANY religion because I KNOW for 100% fact God doesn't exist. Look at all the problems in the world, for a man who is suppose to care about us, he allows people to kill in his name thus violating 1 of the 10 commandments,it allows people to steal and commit other crimes and yet not punished by god.
It's in the history books that JOSEPH SMITH IS A FUCKING CON MAN.
@snake2006 - so you went with someone else who was an Apostate, Mormon Hater, or Excommunicated Anti-Mormon once a member of the church or some other enemy of the church? Sounds objective to me!
@snake2006 - there's big money made in Mormon Bashing. Your buddies Matt and Trey know this. And they're living their life now to the fullest... well almost. All life comes to an end but how will the new beginnings look?
There is no new beginnings idiot. when your dead your worm food, there is nothing after death and that is absolute. Science has proven religion to be a sham. WAKE UP already.
As for Matt and Trey, they have only bashed Morons once in all of South Park, and they did a short lived play. Big whoop, out of 15 seasons of South Park your making it look like they bashed Morons in every episode of a show that bashes all religions including athiesm.
BWAHAHAHAH! a friend that was mormon eh!? strange... the church is pissed at them because they ARE mormon, but yeah.. you go on lying about your mormon faith bud. :)
3 is so undeniably true. Try and leave the church and see how much backlash you get from people who supposedly love you. The funny thing is, we were told "horror" stories about early members of the church getting ostracized by their families and thrown out of their communities for joining the church and how evil that was of them to do so just for having different beliefs. Now, we see the same thing happening accept it is the Mormons persecuting the ex-mormons....
@mobocrat33 - so all mormons everywhere completely ostracize others if they leave the church? how dangerously close to "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" is that? That's like saying all Latinos like loud music, drive low riders, and make cat calls to women as they walk by.
@billymeier182 - how is this video persecution against those who are ex-mormons that behave badly? Should this behavior be rewarded? A bunch of kids throwing mud. What am I doing? I'm making a point that hell hath no fury than someone who feels scorned. Returning railing for railing is the answer.
@XxRayPS3TS85xX - hey, life's short ! Enjoy it! Who cares if there is a possibility of eternal consequences or a chance that no one is really going to be part of this Universe's future or that there's really anything in store for us after we die! Have FUN! PARTY! ALRIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
@October31st1517 - I believe that Anti-Mormons are 100% convinced in their path and sincerely want any and all others who have not deserted or (yet investigated) the church to follow them and also leave it behind.
Leaving behind the covenants made to the Lord, Jesus Christ and the responsibility that he has given me to help build up Zion is just something that I can not and will not do. I am not removing myself from my place. People leave the church but can never TRULY leave it behind or alone.
The Mormon church does in fact practice the baptism of the dead. Are you actually a Mormon? Have several Mormon friends, some in Utah, and that is a practice of the church.
@TacticusPrime yes, all mankind must be baptized. Even those who died without that opportunity or else why would only the living get that right or honor?
@THELDSLIFE Orthodox Christianity has rejected the baptism of the dead since the 4th century. Once you are dead, actual Christian doctrine asserts, you've been judged one way or another. You're either beyond help or beyond harm, so either way baptizing you in absentia doesn't make any sense.
@TacticusPrime - so the question would best be directed to the Lord and not to other men as to whether the practice is absolutely necessary for salvation or not. Having a few men suggest it, based on Orthodox Christian thinking as a doctrinal change, wouldn't be enough for me to abandon the practice if the Bible teaches otherwise.
@THELDSLIFE A few men? 1,600+ years of theologians, bishops, pastors, reverends, etc., is not just a few men. To suddenly resurrect such a clearly unbiblical practice smacks of arrogant self regard. Is Mormonism one of those "True Church" cults?
@THELDSLIFE So you think that YOU have a bead on what the Almighty thinks, but all those other theologians and monks and priests, etc., had no idea what they were talking about?
You read and speak Aramaic, Ancient Greek, and Ancient Hebrew? You are familiar with the culture and context of all the authors of the various texts? You have attended a seminary?
In the parlance of the KJV, "Pride goeth before a fall."
@TacticusPrime - thanks to modern day prophets, men no longer need to guess. and yes, there are prophets once again in Israel and I hang my hat on the same hat rack as the Lord's anointed.
@TacticusPrime - I'm about as sane as Noah who warned the world that there would be a flood when nothing of the sort had ever happened before. Just a bunch of crazy, old guys wandering the desert who hallucinated or thought they saw something, eh? Guess we'll all have to find out at some point. Hopefully not all will discover this at their own, negative eternal consequences...
@TacticusPrime I'm about as sane as Noah who warned the world that there would be a flood when nothing of the sort had ever happened before. Just a bunch of crazy, old guys wandering the desert who hallucinated or thought they saw something, eh? Guess we'll all have to find out at some point. Hopefully not all will discover this at their own, negative eternal consequences.
This is like a merry-go round, I was in the LDS Church, I think I know what the core doctrines are, and they are not biblical. the reason for polygamy, as Joseph Smith put it, was needed for man to be like God, or the Mormon interpretation of God, A man with a body of flesh having many wives to populate the worlds they would supposedly create in the next life. but honestly, the doctrine is not the biggest issue, it was the covering up of history and the lies and half truths they keep pushing.
@moparmonster1965 - well you wouldn't have made a good prophet then... prophets are told by God what to do and if you have a hard enough time following one of the Lord's anointed, it's no surprise why you were not privy to those sorts of revelations.
Remember: The Jews used the scriptures to condemn Jesus to death as convinced as they were.
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When there were prophecies that have been made in the Bible which were later considered as prophecies that did not come to pass, what do you call those? And when prophecies about something occurring may happen or may not pending the choices or decisions of the persons involved, what kinds are those?
In other words... Was the prophecy of the Angel given to Eli considered a "No Win" scenario where he absolutely had no way to repent true in all cases?
When there were prophecies that have been made in the Bible which were later considered as prophecies that did not come to pass, what do you call those? And when prophecies about something occurring may happen or may not pending the choices or decisions of the persons involved, what kinds are those?
In other words:
Was the prophecy of the Angel given to Eli considered a "No Win" scenario where he absolutely had no way to repent true in all cases?
"That's why I'll dodge the question and bring up any other tactic I can to distract you from your original point."
Since you don't accept the Bible's authenticity or authority, you therefore can't use it to undermine the primary point here when it can be safely said that you believe it to be missing 'many plain and precious things.' You can't have it both ways.
@THELDSLIFE What you should've said was: " - lemme put it this way...I don't want to discuss this because I would then have to lie and pretend that Joseph Smith was actually what he claimed he was and that way, I can keep my precious, though thoroughly ineffective priesthood because it makes me feel special and gives me the confidence that I otherwise wouldn't normally have.
@moparmonster1965 - If you don't feel qualified to explain the differences between conditional prophecies and ones which are yet pending or have not yet had the chance to come to pass and between those that are inevitable, then just say so. Why not just admit that you're an atheist? because the same arguments and reasonings that you have towards modern prophecy might as well be used against the Bible and the many instances, even the words of Christ Himself, could be construed as FALSE PROPHECY.
@moparmonster1965 - If you don't feel qualified to explain the differences between conditional prophecies and ones which are yet pending or have not yet had the chance to come to pass and between those that are inevitable, then just say so. Why not just admit that you're an atheist? because the same arguments and reasonings that you have towards modern prophecy might as well be used against the Bible and the many instances, even the words of Christ Himself, could be construed as FALSE PROPHECY.
@moparmonster1965 - If you don't feel qualified to explain the differences between conditional prophecies and ones which are yet pending or have not yet had the chance to come to pass and between those that are inevitable, then just say so. Why not just admit that you're an atheist? because the same arguments and reasonings that you have towards modern prophecy might as well be used against the Bible and the many instances, even the words of Christ Himself, could be construed as FALSE PROPHECY.
@THELDSLIFE I agree that there can be several different types of prophecies, but let's address one specifically: Joseph Smith clearly prophesying that the Civil War would lead directly to the end of the world.
@moparmonster1965 - has war not continued to escalate into the wars that followed? Until it should finally end with the great and last war? You know FULL WELL what the prophecy entails and that our assessments of the prophecy are not only plausible but are continuing to come to pass as each and every conflict continues to escalate... and in the time-frames that God usually uses, it's absolutely fitting. Sometimes a "Little Season" Means 400 years, in bible term. Don't expect continuing dialogue.
You're right on one point, however; the Mormon god has no idea how to measure time because we find that polygamy is a 'new and everlasting covenant' as of 1876, but was set aside (wink, wink) in 1890 under the Manifesto, which means that everlasting, in Mormonspeak, actually means 14 years.
No wonder you're so confused.
"Don't expect continuing dialogue?" Are you taking your bat and ball and going home so soon? Are the facts really too much to bear?
There's some nonsense about Gentiles, too, but since the revelation completely omits the Mexican American War, the Mormon War of 1857-1858, WWI, The Bolshevik Revolution, the Spanish Civil War, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, The Gulf War, The Iraq War, or any of the dozen other conflicts directly involving the United States and its interests from that point until now, there's no way to look at this except as a failure.
Instead, Smith built an entire revelation leading to the end of the world; it speaks of the Civil War spreading to all nations, and slaves rising up against their masters and becoming marshaled for war, which would take us to 1863's formation of the United States Colored Troops' 175 regiments that fought for the Union.
Smith's 'revelation' was given a month earlier, and conveniently followed the tariff nullification action of a month before that. What Smith's prophetic abilities missed was the repeal of the Nullification Order in March of 1833.
Back here in reality, however, there are some important facts that Mormons don't know about this that will shed a more accurate light on it. That Smith even mentioned the possibility of a Civil War really isn't impressive at all because not only was this common knowledge at the time, the LDS newspaper Evening and Morning Star, in Jan of 1833, featured an article entitled "Rebellion in South Carolina."
@THELDSLIFE So let me translate: "I already know it was a false prophesy but to admit that means that all else will crumble around me, resulting in the loss of the aforementioned priesthood that I hold so dear."
Had you said that, I would accept it as such. But, surprisingly, you didn't.
@TheSkepticChristian - in contrast, I found nothing interesting about the PBS special. After ten minutes, I wasn't sure it was going to get ANY better and didn't want to invest another 80 minutes into it JUST to say I saw it all!
And yes. Brainwashing is a huge deal in mormonism. Take it from a former member who went through hell and back with all the emotional hurdles and OCD I developed and anxiety attacks when I realized the church wasn't true, but was still mentally conditioned to believe that there would be "eternal consequences" if I decided to leave the church.
@BlizzagaLantean - you'll have to reconcile with God why you became a covenant breaker and quite possible much less than what you could have become with him. So Eternal Consequences? Probably not if you're not expecting much from Eternity... you'll do well if all of that stuff about eternal progression aren't all that important and you'll enjoy your works for a season because all of the things you now feel is okay to do without consequences one day will show to have been a false hope.
@BlizzagaLantean - for some men, it's arrogance. To some men it's confidence. Who knows. Maybe there's an eternal void of nothingness, even though it contradicts the laws of time, space, and energy... but I wouldn't want to take that risk! I ere on the side of eternal truths.
Of course Mormons are counseled to live within their means, that way they will have more than enough money left to pay their tithing. I was born and raised Mormon and #3 on your list is absolutely true. I was told specifically by church leaders not to question ANYTHING and to just do what I was told.
@shannonsshenanigans1 - yet on the other hand, they ask us to pray for God to confirm the truth of all things and regarding their holy calling. Things didn't go well for the children of Israel when they did not do as the Lord's prophet suggest. We can question all we want and follow after our own paths but at our own peril.
The Mormon church teaches that the Catholic Church is not the one true church, unlike the Bible. All Protestants know the Bible points to the Catholic Church as the only stalwart institution built on Christ's correct principals.
@drewskione - the LDS church teaches that the original church, established by God through Peter, had ceased to resemble the church that had been established. And that as the Bible predicted, a falling away would occur. (See Amos 8:11-12) This falling away would happen sometime after the meridian of time or the days of Christ. It would be a wholesale, all encompassing Apostasy that would effect the whole earth. Although the Catholic church rose above the ashes, certain things went missing.
@drewskione Why then did martin luther seing the clear flaws and wrongs of the church decide to reform, so that he would be able to come closer to the church as it is found in the bible. Also I can say that greek orthodox would not agree. They believe catholisism broke from orthodoxy.
all fall short the glory of the lord.you mormons are stating that you can get into heaven if you only do good works.mis representation you will not be judged soely on your works.butt also the content and character of your heart, your soul if you have one.
@Cheshu1 oh yes wicked oh me, watch it or i might eat your kids, seriously grow up... =) All i have done is state the truth as it is, and the truth speaks against slandering gestures, try comw some doctrinal studd next time instead of taking misslead qoutes from people who didn't have all understanding god has
mormons do worship joseph smith,they sing songs about him.....ive been in the meetings,and the church is dead stale and boring.
lilbeaveymac 1 week ago
@lilbeaveymac - in the Jewish faith, they sing hymns about Moses, who was the prophet of the restoration during that dispensation. Some find their meetings as dead, stale, and boring... but are we only on earth here to have fun?
THELDSLIFE 1 week ago
@THELDSLIFE im not saying church should be fun,and yes work isnt fun but we still go to work.i still attend dude,last time i went the bishop looked like he was half asleep i had a girl and her man dozing off.then i have to go to priesthood meeting and hear about the dangers of pornography for an hour .....not to mention the testimonies sound as if they are missing the mark.nice architecture ,nicely dressed people and dim lighting aside i think the church is hollow,a dark void.
lilbeaveymac 1 week ago
@lilbeaveymac - let's have some "Stimulating Gospel Discussions!"
You pick the topic! Sounds like you need some "Spiritual Stimulation!"
THELDSLIFE 1 week ago
@THELDSLIFE ok first lest start with this one question-do you believe the bible is corrupted?? step one....dont block me and answer me honestly!!.Be Christlike and tell the truth......Do you believe the bible is trustworthy?? lets start there..............
lilbeaveymac 1 week ago
many "prophets" of the church are freemasons, do your homework, masonry is satanism even today in 2012, hp blavatsky is the great whore.
torymorton 2 weeks ago
How many wives did Joseph have? How many wives of other men did he marry?
Did the Native American race start out as a curse from God? They really used to be white? LOL
liamlloyd77 2 weeks ago
@liamlloyd77 Joseph Smith was reportedly sealed to 33 women but due to lack of records keeping and some things being lost in the constant pursuit of church leaders and mob justice, not all records have been restored to their proper order. It is unclear as to how many actual women were sealed to Joseph but it is more than ACCURATE to suggest that he was sealed to these women in a WINO or "Wed in name only" as no children were produced by any of the unions and this is 100% historically confirmed.
THELDSLIFE 2 weeks ago
A CLECKHEATON man has been ordained a bishop with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Stephen Beckwith, 36, was ordained as the new bishop of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Dudley Hill near East Bierley.
Mr Beckwith, of Whitechapel Road, Cleckheaton, is married to Clare.
omiolo 2 weeks ago
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MORMONISM was formed in usa. Scientology was too?
Im not looking into the meaning of this. Because I will already tell you would I beat the living shit out of them and use them as an example to everyone when I find the source of "THEM".
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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Look... if people want to believe in this, okay, if EVERYONE thats like me want them to be like that whatever. Is HEIRARCHY cool with this? No comment... if they were to give me reasons why and I told them what I thought and PROVED so many points and they just said why they did this... okay whatever I wont look into it.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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Angel Seth would slaughter Angel MORONi.
Without a doubt, he would get casted out of heaven with the rest of the mormons.
I know why they are in heaven. I "UNDERSTAND" that but... I swear to god. Dont trust mormons either.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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Heres for all of you mormon lovers.
Exodus 15:3 "The LORD is a man of war, the LORD is his name"
That is the baddest ass fucking passage I have ever read in religion. I love that passage.
Sounds so KNIGHTLY? Doesnt it?
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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OMG HAHAHAHA I give up.
This is so... ridiculous. Did everyone read my comment about how mormonism was formed? THAT WAS LIE. DONT LOOK INTO THAT.
I cant believe they wrote that in there Gal 1:8. HAHA... no hes not a CELESTIAL BEING or an Ethereal. He wishes...
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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Im all for people to bash the mason church I mean... the fake christian church I was forced to join.
Sadly the Teutonic families are there.
You ever seen a Teutonic and Templar styles combined? I have...
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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HAHAH
Joe Smith... BIG PIMPIN OMFG
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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... not bad country music.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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FAITH COMES BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD. Romans 10:17
The ability to believe is not determined by how i feel when i pray but by the knowledge of truth found in the word of Christ. Truth is objective, unbiased. Feelings are subjective. Knowledge of truth is critical. Acts 17:2,3.
When something big is at stake I want to put may faith in something concrete,objective and unbiased rather than how I feel about it.
Eternal life is at stake so. your choice.
floryn167 3 weeks ago
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@katoman76 It all comes down on whether you believe the Bible alone is the authoritative word of God. If you don't believe that than, you're no different than jehova's witnesses, islam, and any other man-made religions. They are all sincere you know, but they can't all have the truth, can they? Bye
floryn167 3 weeks ago
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floryn167 3 weeks ago
The people who dislike this video, are people who like to lissen. To the ones who act in hate. Kinda like Hamas suporters.
"Yeah... they hate? Allright I'll suport and belive in them!"
Lols at people who hate the curch, that is about loving and hellping people.
chrstilen5 3 weeks ago
Nice! :D
Lukash636 3 weeks ago
@Lukash636 - hahahahahaa thx.
THELDSLIFE 3 weeks ago
@SeanImron You know it says the same thing in Deutoronomy...maybe we should exclude everything after Deuteronomy huh? Including the Book of Rev? Enough if your bigotry.
blackmamba54321 4 weeks ago
@blackmamba54321 - you make a good point. Maybe the Israelite movement after Joshua could be considered a "radical sect" who continued it's work outside the bounds which Moses had set! Since we CLEARLY can see that Moses did not intend any more to be written based on Deut 4:2-4...
THELDSLIFE 4 weeks ago
Dear LDS you may want to take a look a Revelations one more time, its pretty clear on how god feels about adding to his book.
SeanImron 1 month ago
@SeanImron - I'd be extremely interest in knowing where God has written anything down anywhere. Do you have news for the world because it's news to me!
I know God has written at least twice as indicated by the Old Testament.
Where else has God written something with his own two hands? Why are you holding out on us?
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE woah there don't get your panties in a bunch Im sorry and apologize I did not realize that you were mentally incapable of understanding that by his book I meant scripture (by that I mean real scripture not bull written using magic glasses and disappearing golden tablets). Have you even read the bible? Maybe you should, the Lord will forgive you, all you have to do is ask... well and change. I mean Mormonism is is one step up from Wicca practically a Neo-pagan religion.
SeanImron 1 month ago
@SeanImron - you didn't answer anything I wrote. Besides King James, how did God actually write the Bible?
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@SeanImron John 20:30-31 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
katoman76 3 weeks ago 2
@katoman76 you listed some interesting things so here is my list maybe it will bring you to the light and convert you to Christianity (which Mormon is not)
"Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35 "Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me." Isaiah 43:10 God is eternal – without beginning or end. An eternal being doesn’t come into existence, but rather always exists and always will (aka God is not Adam and no you will never be one)
SeanImron 3 weeks ago
@SeanImron Since you could not defend your quotation of Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19 versus John 20:30-31and John 21:25 and the meaning of book as "this book", show me where in the bible (book of books) appears the word "bible"? or that one could understand that they were refering to a compilation of books that had not yet occurred?
katoman76 3 weeks ago 2
@SeanImron You are so supported in the bible and you don't know how the bible got to become the bible? You know how many times it has been translated? who firstly gathered these beautiful scriptures and took from it precious things in order to gain power? it's general history. Which things are now being found in the Dead Sea Scrolls which are not manipulated. Dude, you are the one who really needs to be converted, but not by me, but the power of the Holy Ghost.
katoman76 3 weeks ago 2
@katoman76 - people wrap themselves up in the Bible when it's convenient for them but when it is inconvenient, then what?
THELDSLIFE 3 weeks ago
@THELDSLIFE Right! They run! Thanks for this video. Apparently our friend went bye bye.
katoman76 3 weeks ago
@SeanImron The term "book" represents "this book" of Revelations or Deuteronomy or any other book written by a prophet. The Bible (book of books) was not called like that until the 700 A.C. by the Roman empire when it was fully gathered. So, they could not referred to the whole book of books, because it had not been fully gathered at that time. Got that?
katoman76 3 weeks ago 2
@katoman76 )…Oh and here are some that don’t even need textual proof Blood atonement, Polygamy, Your Prophet got a revelation from “God” while practicing magic? Does that sound like God or Satan, who apparently is Jesus’ and your spirit brother?
SeanImron 3 weeks ago
@SeanImron Show me where in the bible says that God changes His ways (Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever). That God said it all and that He cannot rise a prophet again (Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets). Are you sure you are reading the Bible?
katoman76 3 weeks ago 2
@SeanImron Also, the term "add" means to change or say a different way to the gospel he was teaching. The Book of Mormon talks about Jesus Christ as our savior and redeemer, faith, repentance, baptism, the Holy Ghost, etc. It teaches us how to pray to Our Heavenly Father and recognize His answer through His Spirit. Could you tell me which part of this differs from the Gospel?
katoman76 3 weeks ago 2
@katoman76 And speaking of practicing magic, that’s how your book was written using a magic hat and a rock and disappearing gold tablets. But really there is no reason to argue both our churches have thousands of years of credibility behind them right?
SeanImron 3 weeks ago
@SeanImron - cease being a tool!
THELDSLIFE 3 weeks ago
@THELDSLIFE maybe you should not dedicate videos to those you dont wish to talk to haha
SeanImron 3 weeks ago
@SeanImron Sure, mine has been fully restored in this last dispensation and shall not be taken from earth and yours the church of the Devil who is the father of lies. By the way, yours is SO united.What's the name of your church? How many times have the Evangelicals divided into different denominations? the church of Paul, the church of Peter, etc. If you are so consistant, why is it that you cannot hold yourselves into one?
katoman76 3 weeks ago
Petiful!
DoctorDon816 1 month ago
God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—
DoctorDon816 1 month ago
From lds.org and Joe Smith -I will go back to the beginning before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth, for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why He interferes with the affairs of man. Cont:
DoctorDon816 1 month ago
I wish to speak privately to a Mormon to gain information about the beliefs of the LDS. Anyone care to inform me?
TH3B3A57 1 month ago
@TH3B3A57 Feel free to spot by one of their Ward houses, they will be only too happy to indoctrinate you into the cult. Remember, there is a 10% salary reduction required from each of your paychecks and their prefer people who are "white and delightsome."
Farmerat911 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - the more delightsome the better!
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 Ah. I just wish to learn. =) I have no intentions of being an LDS. I already know the way, the truth, and the life. I'm just interested in learning about them. And teaching THEM the TRUTH
TH3B3A57 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - blah blah boring and untrue.
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
Joesph Smith had sex with 14 year olds ( among his 34 wives). He married other peoples wives, he broke into the newspaper in Navoo, he made fake money, he got convicted of fraud in NY. want more?
Farmerat911 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - according to whom? Broke into the newspaper? Do you even know what you are talking about? 4rd or 5th hand information gets very distorted.
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
Tanner, 1981, Chapter 17, "Joseph Smith". The Changing World of Mormonism.
Farmerat911 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - According to whom? Children/offspring produced from any of those marriages? Writer of the Book? His credibility? First-hand account? Eye witnesses who watched his plural marital affairs? On the contrary. It is well documented with whom he had offspring and with whom he did not and any of the above mentioned females listed did not have children and unless they had more advanced methods of birth control back in the day, other than pulling out which is a sin, then no evidence of sex.
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
Believe whatever you want to, that is up to you but the evidence is out there if you look. So, Joseph Smith didn't usurp his power as Mayor of Navoo to destroy a printing press, that was about to publish some "not so nice things" about him?
Farmerat911 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - I wasn't there and you don't know the events first hand what occurred or whether Joseph felt sorry enough to ask forgiveness but if its anything but
"God shouldn't save Joseph or he's goiong to hell because I think he's wrong" puts you in danger too. Jesus said it best. He that hath not sin, cast the first stone."
It sounds like, in your mind, that being a prophet means he must be perfect. Can you name me one prophet in the Old or New testament that lived perfectly save Jesus?
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
I am not religious. However, I like to think that the great people of the modern world, Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa, etc., were not out committing significant criminal acts. I will grant you that they all committed some civil disobiedence but that is fundementally different. As I said before, believe whatever you want to, I just find the whole Mormon doctrine to be unusual. I, personally, could never believe it.
Farmerat911 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - It's not my responsibility to convince you.
If there is a God, and God is God, then he alone would have the burden of proof to repay to his children. It's a journey that requires faith and not many take it seriously enough. If you've read anything in the Bible or the Book of Mormon, the general messages has been, "If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask it of God and he will give us the knowledge that we desire IF we ask with a sincere heart, real intent, and FAITH. Care to try?
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
Do you like chuch history?
Mormon Church v. United States - 136 U.S. 1 (1890)
Farmerat911 1 month ago
@Farmerat911 - I do know, however, that Joseph said this upon possibly leaving and not returning to Nauvoo, he said, "If my life means nothing to my friends, then it means nothing to me." He faced down his error or mistake. Whether the slanderous article printed against him was true or not, I think that one act of frustration with a lifetime of persecution, personal attacks, and hatred against him, Joseph showed MUCH restraint for his entire life. But that's just my opinion. We are only human.
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE: "Joseph showed MUCH restraint for his entire life."
-- LOL. Joseph started EXACTLY what your current brethren have continued: the use of force to get your way and intimidate your neighbors.
Don't like what someone else prints? You could try printing the truth. OR you could just destroy their printing press.
Don't like who your neighbors choose to marry? You could try to convince them of your beliefs about the family. OR you could just ban their marriages.
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@hanohanonacowboy - when they tarred and feathered him, he never returned railing for railing. Who would suffer through this their entire life and up until the day that he died? No sane person would unless he truly had divine guidance. Something apparently you wouldn't have to worry about having because it's an easier life to just live "Okay"
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago
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@THELDSLIFE: "Something apparently you wouldn't have to worry about having because it's an easier life to just live "Okay""
--You know nothing of my life. Is this the best defense Mormons can muster for their immoral meddling that harmed hundreds of thousands of families-- merely making up falsehoods about those who criticize you rather than answering honestly for your actions?
If this is the best testimony you can offer, it's no wonder your Church is little more than a punch line.
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
The funny thing is that I am not anti-mormon. I just find the whole "religion" to be comically absurd. I don't care what you (or anyone else) believes, but if it floats your boat that is great.
Farmerat911 1 month ago
Looks like the point of this video is that anyone who disagrees with the doctrines of the LDS Church or who criticizes anything at all that Mormons do, does do because they are "anti-Mormon". It could never, ever be because Mormons might sometimes be...well... wrong.
Reminds me of that "falsehood" at 0:51 "Mormons are brainwashed by their leaders and are not allowed to question them". This video's position that "any criticism of us is 'anti-Mormonism' sounds an awful lot like brainwashing to me.
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@hanohanonacowboy - no the point of this videos is don't be a dummy who would dedicate their lives at tearing down. That's not what Jesus did. He didn't come to earth to tear down the romans or criticize the Jews. In change, the Jews were the modern day version of the "Anti-Mormons" who repeatedly accused Jesus of Heretical preaching and eventually slayed him. His restored Church would receive no different a treatment. Violent opposition has always been dished out by mediocre minds, right?
THELDSLIFE 1 month ago 2
@THELDSLIFE None of the opponents in your video is violent. Most appear to be stating honest concerns and complaints about Mormons and their actions. You could answer their complaints with logic... or you could just make a blanket statement that they are all "anti-Mormon". In the first case, someone might actually listen to you. In the second case, why should they?
If you can't answer your critics with facts and logic instead of name-calling, this does not say much for your faith.
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE
At 0:05 a sign recommends taxing the LDS Church. The photo comes from a rally where the Church was accused of using tax-exempt funds to run a political campaign. Do you have an honest defense?
At 0:18 a protestor calls the Mormons a "cult". Certainly Mormons used force to compel others to obey their dogma, as cults do. Do you have an honest response why Americans should not conclude you are a cult? Or is your only response that "Folks actually schedule time for this"?
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE At 0:51 a sign implies that Mormons believe in polygamy. Can you cite current Church teaching that contradicts that claim? Most Saints can. Or will you just call the sign-maker "anti-Mormon"?
By the way-- if your marriage is sealed in the Temple, how long does it last?
If wife #1 dies, and you marry a 2nd in the Temple, how long are you married to her? If #2 dies and you marry a third, how many wives will you have for eternity?
What do we call this? (Starts with a "p").
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE The guy with the sign at 1:09 says you spent $40 million on hate and fear when you paid for a political campaign to remove your neighbors' legal marriage rights. Your response was about "MILLIONS" spent on "anti-Mormon propoganda".
Looks to me like the guy spent 5 bucks on poster board and a magic marker, while you spent gazillions to take away his civil rights.
Do you have any excuse at all, other than calling this citizen yet another "anti-Mormon" who's out to get you?
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE At 1:59 you complain that anti-Mormons "mock our missionary efforts".
Missionaries present themselves honestly. They sincerly try to share the restored gospel, believing that the truth of God's doctrine is sufficient to bring others to Him.
But Tom Monson and his cronies--and the Mormons who paid for California's Prop 8 campaign--TRULY mocked those missionaries when they used money to FORCE others to obey LDS doctrine.
Doesn't say much for their faith, in my own opinion.
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
@THELDSLIFE See how it works, LDSLIFE? You could have taken the claims of any of those folks in your video and made an honest answer to support your beliefs or to excuse your actions.
You could have posted facts about modern-LDS teaching on polygamy or Joseph Smith's supposed underage wives or whatever.
Instead, you just called all the critics all "anti-Mormon", as if that expalins it all away.
I don't think you're "brainwashed", brother. Just lazy.
hanohanonacowboy 1 month ago
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the book of mormon is no more the a third and final revelation than the koran. they are both false doctrines that take advantage of stupid people.
gears5336 2 months ago
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the book of mormon is no more the a third and final revelation than the koran. they are both false doctrines that take advantage of stupid people.
gears5336 2 months ago
the book of mormon is no more the a third and final revelation than the koran. they are both false doctrines that take advantage of stupid people.
gears5336 2 months ago
SE ARREPENDAM MEUS FILHOS, DEIXEM DE TANTA APOSTASIA E ABRAN SEUS CORAÇÕES!!!
Thur702 2 months ago
@Thur702 Para quem você está dirigindo este comentário?
THELDSLIFE 2 months ago
Thank you very much for this vid "THELDSLIFE". I'm a french LDS and it's not easy everyday ... but I love my Lord, I love the Gospel and I love my church. I knew from the beginning I woud meet "opposition". And in France, an atheist country (and proud of it :-( ) it's even more difficult to be christian. So when I watch your video trying to restaure the truth, I feel really better.
Eowindurohan 4 months ago 3
@THELDSLIFE
I did my research outside of South Park. I don't take everything they say at face value.
I also don't believe in ANY religion because I KNOW for 100% fact God doesn't exist. Look at all the problems in the world, for a man who is suppose to care about us, he allows people to kill in his name thus violating 1 of the 10 commandments,it allows people to steal and commit other crimes and yet not punished by god.
It's in the history books that JOSEPH SMITH IS A FUCKING CON MAN.
snake2006 4 months ago
@snake2006 - so you went with someone else who was an Apostate, Mormon Hater, or Excommunicated Anti-Mormon once a member of the church or some other enemy of the church? Sounds objective to me!
THELDSLIFE 2 months ago
@snake2006 - you only hope that God doesn't exist because it frees you up to live a life of self-gratification and a life without consequences.
THELDSLIFE 2 months ago
Matt Stone and Trey Parker didn't lie about Mormanism.
Your the one being lied to and you are gullible to believe it.
Joseph Smith was a known con man and his so called religion is bullshit just like every other god damn religion out there.
THERE IS NO GOD, that is 10000% fact. Deny it all you want, but the fact is there is and never was a God.
snake2006 4 months ago
@snake2006 - there's big money made in Mormon Bashing. Your buddies Matt and Trey know this. And they're living their life now to the fullest... well almost. All life comes to an end but how will the new beginnings look?
THELDSLIFE 2 months ago
@THELDSLIFE
There is no new beginnings idiot. when your dead your worm food, there is nothing after death and that is absolute. Science has proven religion to be a sham. WAKE UP already.
As for Matt and Trey, they have only bashed Morons once in all of South Park, and they did a short lived play. Big whoop, out of 15 seasons of South Park your making it look like they bashed Morons in every episode of a show that bashes all religions including athiesm.
Fucking idiot.
snake2006 2 months ago
@snake2006 - Being rude just gets you blocked, Spend that unending void of nothingness after death however you see fit.
THELDSLIFE 2 months ago
BWAHAHAHAH! a friend that was mormon eh!? strange... the church is pissed at them because they ARE mormon, but yeah.. you go on lying about your mormon faith bud. :)
Sumibraxis 5 months ago
3 is so undeniably true. Try and leave the church and see how much backlash you get from people who supposedly love you. The funny thing is, we were told "horror" stories about early members of the church getting ostracized by their families and thrown out of their communities for joining the church and how evil that was of them to do so just for having different beliefs. Now, we see the same thing happening accept it is the Mormons persecuting the ex-mormons....
mobocrat33 5 months ago 2
@mobocrat33 - so all mormons everywhere completely ostracize others if they leave the church? how dangerously close to "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" is that? That's like saying all Latinos like loud music, drive low riders, and make cat calls to women as they walk by.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@mobocrat33 No Mormon is going to try to persecute me to my Face because I would throw him into another universe.
billymeier182 4 months ago
@billymeier182 - how is this video persecution against those who are ex-mormons that behave badly? Should this behavior be rewarded? A bunch of kids throwing mud. What am I doing? I'm making a point that hell hath no fury than someone who feels scorned. Returning railing for railing is the answer.
THELDSLIFE 4 months ago
@oregonisboring - Kenny and Cartman know their stuff!
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
The mormon religion is straight up fucked in the head! They should all smoke a fat ass blunt and enjoy themselves! lol
XxRayPS3TS85xX 5 months ago
@XxRayPS3TS85xX - cute, guy...
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE let me guess your trying to be sarcistic right?
XxRayPS3TS85xX 5 months ago
@XxRayPS3TS85xX - hey, life's short ! Enjoy it! Who cares if there is a possibility of eternal consequences or a chance that no one is really going to be part of this Universe's future or that there's really anything in store for us after we die! Have FUN! PARTY! ALRIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
- Yeah, I'm layin' it on thick!
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
"People leave the church but can never TRULY leave it behind or alone."
Gee, I wonder why? I'd love nothing more than to never look back, but it's really hard when I have to deal with such harassment.
BlizzagaLantean 5 months ago
@BlizzagaLantean Oh yeah, and not all ex-mormons are "anti" mormons. Damn. Stop acting like this is the case.
BlizzagaLantean 5 months ago
@BlizzagaLantean - are you having a conversation with yourself?
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
Do you believe anti-momons to be insinscere?
October31st1517 5 months ago
@October31st1517 - I believe that Anti-Mormons are 100% convinced in their path and sincerely want any and all others who have not deserted or (yet investigated) the church to follow them and also leave it behind.
Leaving behind the covenants made to the Lord, Jesus Christ and the responsibility that he has given me to help build up Zion is just something that I can not and will not do. I am not removing myself from my place. People leave the church but can never TRULY leave it behind or alone.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
The Mormon church does in fact practice the baptism of the dead. Are you actually a Mormon? Have several Mormon friends, some in Utah, and that is a practice of the church.
TacticusPrime 5 months ago
@TacticusPrime yes, all mankind must be baptized. Even those who died without that opportunity or else why would only the living get that right or honor?
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE Orthodox Christianity has rejected the baptism of the dead since the 4th century. Once you are dead, actual Christian doctrine asserts, you've been judged one way or another. You're either beyond help or beyond harm, so either way baptizing you in absentia doesn't make any sense.
TacticusPrime 5 months ago
@TacticusPrime - so the question would best be directed to the Lord and not to other men as to whether the practice is absolutely necessary for salvation or not. Having a few men suggest it, based on Orthodox Christian thinking as a doctrinal change, wouldn't be enough for me to abandon the practice if the Bible teaches otherwise.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE A few men? 1,600+ years of theologians, bishops, pastors, reverends, etc., is not just a few men. To suddenly resurrect such a clearly unbiblical practice smacks of arrogant self regard. Is Mormonism one of those "True Church" cults?
TacticusPrime 5 months ago
@TacticusPrime - when 1 is aligned with the Almighty God, he is always in the Majority.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE So you think that YOU have a bead on what the Almighty thinks, but all those other theologians and monks and priests, etc., had no idea what they were talking about?
You read and speak Aramaic, Ancient Greek, and Ancient Hebrew? You are familiar with the culture and context of all the authors of the various texts? You have attended a seminary?
In the parlance of the KJV, "Pride goeth before a fall."
TacticusPrime 5 months ago
@TacticusPrime - thanks to modern day prophets, men no longer need to guess. and yes, there are prophets once again in Israel and I hang my hat on the same hat rack as the Lord's anointed.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE hehehe, ok mate ok. It's become clear that you are not a sane person.
TacticusPrime 5 months ago
@TacticusPrime - I'm about as sane as Noah who warned the world that there would be a flood when nothing of the sort had ever happened before. Just a bunch of crazy, old guys wandering the desert who hallucinated or thought they saw something, eh? Guess we'll all have to find out at some point. Hopefully not all will discover this at their own, negative eternal consequences...
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@TacticusPrime I'm about as sane as Noah who warned the world that there would be a flood when nothing of the sort had ever happened before. Just a bunch of crazy, old guys wandering the desert who hallucinated or thought they saw something, eh? Guess we'll all have to find out at some point. Hopefully not all will discover this at their own, negative eternal consequences.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE Not interested in ocean-front property in AZ. but how about if I buy a little house in a good neighborhood in Zarahemla?
eeikman 5 months ago
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TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
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TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
Everyone, I made a new video of moparmonster1965
watch?v=iaBcCm122yQ
Its a little funny :)
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
This is like a merry-go round, I was in the LDS Church, I think I know what the core doctrines are, and they are not biblical. the reason for polygamy, as Joseph Smith put it, was needed for man to be like God, or the Mormon interpretation of God, A man with a body of flesh having many wives to populate the worlds they would supposedly create in the next life. but honestly, the doctrine is not the biggest issue, it was the covering up of history and the lies and half truths they keep pushing.
billymeier182 5 months ago
@billymeier182 - Read D&C 38:30 at some point. The Lord has warned all of us but some of us did not get the memo.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE Read Matthew 7: v 15-20 at some point. The Lord warned all of us but some of us did not get the memo.
eeikman 5 months ago
Whew! Luckily, this doesn't apply to me because I don't believe much of anything I'm told. I do my research and let my fingers do the walking.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - well you wouldn't have made a good prophet then... prophets are told by God what to do and if you have a hard enough time following one of the Lord's anointed, it's no surprise why you were not privy to those sorts of revelations.
Remember: The Jews used the scriptures to condemn Jesus to death as convinced as they were.
Prices continue to be low on my ocean front property... get your bid in SOON!
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE You're right about at least that, and unlike Joseph Smith, I never tried.
If Joseph Smith, for example, was 'the Lord's anointed,' how many of his false prophecies make him a false prophet? One? Ten? A hundred?
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - How many mistakes can a Saint make and still be saved? 7 x 70?
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE Didn't your parents teach you that it's impolite to answer a question with a question? Clearly not.
Now answer the question and get ready for some facts.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - lemme put it this way...
When there were prophecies that have been made in the Bible which were later considered as prophecies that did not come to pass, what do you call those? And when prophecies about something occurring may happen or may not pending the choices or decisions of the persons involved, what kinds are those?
In other words... Was the prophecy of the Angel given to Eli considered a "No Win" scenario where he absolutely had no way to repent true in all cases?
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - lemme put it this way...
When there were prophecies that have been made in the Bible which were later considered as prophecies that did not come to pass, what do you call those? And when prophecies about something occurring may happen or may not pending the choices or decisions of the persons involved, what kinds are those?
In other words:
Was the prophecy of the Angel given to Eli considered a "No Win" scenario where he absolutely had no way to repent true in all cases?
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
"That's why I'll dodge the question and bring up any other tactic I can to distract you from your original point."
Since you don't accept the Bible's authenticity or authority, you therefore can't use it to undermine the primary point here when it can be safely said that you believe it to be missing 'many plain and precious things.' You can't have it both ways.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE What you should've said was: " - lemme put it this way...I don't want to discuss this because I would then have to lie and pretend that Joseph Smith was actually what he claimed he was and that way, I can keep my precious, though thoroughly ineffective priesthood because it makes me feel special and gives me the confidence that I otherwise wouldn't normally have.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - If you don't feel qualified to explain the differences between conditional prophecies and ones which are yet pending or have not yet had the chance to come to pass and between those that are inevitable, then just say so. Why not just admit that you're an atheist? because the same arguments and reasonings that you have towards modern prophecy might as well be used against the Bible and the many instances, even the words of Christ Himself, could be construed as FALSE PROPHECY.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - If you don't feel qualified to explain the differences between conditional prophecies and ones which are yet pending or have not yet had the chance to come to pass and between those that are inevitable, then just say so. Why not just admit that you're an atheist? because the same arguments and reasonings that you have towards modern prophecy might as well be used against the Bible and the many instances, even the words of Christ Himself, could be construed as FALSE PROPHECY.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - If you don't feel qualified to explain the differences between conditional prophecies and ones which are yet pending or have not yet had the chance to come to pass and between those that are inevitable, then just say so. Why not just admit that you're an atheist? because the same arguments and reasonings that you have towards modern prophecy might as well be used against the Bible and the many instances, even the words of Christ Himself, could be construed as FALSE PROPHECY.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE I agree that there can be several different types of prophecies, but let's address one specifically: Joseph Smith clearly prophesying that the Civil War would lead directly to the end of the world.
I find this one particularly amusing.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@moparmonster1965 - has war not continued to escalate into the wars that followed? Until it should finally end with the great and last war? You know FULL WELL what the prophecy entails and that our assessments of the prophecy are not only plausible but are continuing to come to pass as each and every conflict continues to escalate... and in the time-frames that God usually uses, it's absolutely fitting. Sometimes a "Little Season" Means 400 years, in bible term. Don't expect continuing dialogue.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
You're right on one point, however; the Mormon god has no idea how to measure time because we find that polygamy is a 'new and everlasting covenant' as of 1876, but was set aside (wink, wink) in 1890 under the Manifesto, which means that everlasting, in Mormonspeak, actually means 14 years.
No wonder you're so confused.
"Don't expect continuing dialogue?" Are you taking your bat and ball and going home so soon? Are the facts really too much to bear?
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
There's some nonsense about Gentiles, too, but since the revelation completely omits the Mexican American War, the Mormon War of 1857-1858, WWI, The Bolshevik Revolution, the Spanish Civil War, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, The Gulf War, The Iraq War, or any of the dozen other conflicts directly involving the United States and its interests from that point until now, there's no way to look at this except as a failure.
Unless you actually want it to be true.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
Instead, Smith built an entire revelation leading to the end of the world; it speaks of the Civil War spreading to all nations, and slaves rising up against their masters and becoming marshaled for war, which would take us to 1863's formation of the United States Colored Troops' 175 regiments that fought for the Union.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
Smith's 'revelation' was given a month earlier, and conveniently followed the tariff nullification action of a month before that. What Smith's prophetic abilities missed was the repeal of the Nullification Order in March of 1833.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
Back here in reality, however, there are some important facts that Mormons don't know about this that will shed a more accurate light on it. That Smith even mentioned the possibility of a Civil War really isn't impressive at all because not only was this common knowledge at the time, the LDS newspaper Evening and Morning Star, in Jan of 1833, featured an article entitled "Rebellion in South Carolina."
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
@THELDSLIFE So let me translate: "I already know it was a false prophesy but to admit that means that all else will crumble around me, resulting in the loss of the aforementioned priesthood that I hold so dear."
Had you said that, I would accept it as such. But, surprisingly, you didn't.
moparmonster1965 5 months ago
I watched the documentary the Mormons, it was cool,
I don't agree with all of it, but its much better than anti-mormon propaganda.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian - in contrast, I found nothing interesting about the PBS special. After ten minutes, I wasn't sure it was going to get ANY better and didn't want to invest another 80 minutes into it JUST to say I saw it all!
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
Religion is regarded by the common people as true.
By the wise.....as false.
And by the rulers....as useful.
fab42 6 months ago
@fab42 - "God must have loved the common people because he made so many of them. - Abraham Lincoln
THELDSLIFE 6 months ago
And yes. Brainwashing is a huge deal in mormonism. Take it from a former member who went through hell and back with all the emotional hurdles and OCD I developed and anxiety attacks when I realized the church wasn't true, but was still mentally conditioned to believe that there would be "eternal consequences" if I decided to leave the church.
BlizzagaLantean 6 months ago
@BlizzagaLantean - you'll have to reconcile with God why you became a covenant breaker and quite possible much less than what you could have become with him. So Eternal Consequences? Probably not if you're not expecting much from Eternity... you'll do well if all of that stuff about eternal progression aren't all that important and you'll enjoy your works for a season because all of the things you now feel is okay to do without consequences one day will show to have been a false hope.
THELDSLIFE 6 months ago
@THELDSLIFE Your arrogance astounds me.
BlizzagaLantean 5 months ago
@BlizzagaLantean - You forgot to mention witty...
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
@BlizzagaLantean - for some men, it's arrogance. To some men it's confidence. Who knows. Maybe there's an eternal void of nothingness, even though it contradicts the laws of time, space, and energy... but I wouldn't want to take that risk! I ere on the side of eternal truths.
THELDSLIFE 5 months ago
Thumbs up if you only kept this video running just to listen to the song.
BlizzagaLantean 6 months ago
With all of the New York City buzz on all things Mormon these days
-- from "The Book of Mormon" to "I'm a Mormon" to dueling Mormons
for the Republican presidential nomination -- it is understandable
that the New York Times felt it was a good time to send a reporter
to upstate New York to "get the Mormon view of the extended Mormon
moment" at the LDS Church's annual Hill Cumorah Pageant.
omiolo 6 months ago
Times has a 'Mormon Moment' at Hill Cumorah Pageant
Deseret News
omiolo 6 months ago
Of course Mormons are counseled to live within their means, that way they will have more than enough money left to pay their tithing. I was born and raised Mormon and #3 on your list is absolutely true. I was told specifically by church leaders not to question ANYTHING and to just do what I was told.
shannonsshenanigans1 6 months ago
@shannonsshenanigans1 - yet on the other hand, they ask us to pray for God to confirm the truth of all things and regarding their holy calling. Things didn't go well for the children of Israel when they did not do as the Lord's prophet suggest. We can question all we want and follow after our own paths but at our own peril.
THELDSLIFE 6 months ago
The Mormon church teaches that the Catholic Church is not the one true church, unlike the Bible. All Protestants know the Bible points to the Catholic Church as the only stalwart institution built on Christ's correct principals.
drewskione 6 months ago
@drewskione - the LDS church teaches that the original church, established by God through Peter, had ceased to resemble the church that had been established. And that as the Bible predicted, a falling away would occur. (See Amos 8:11-12) This falling away would happen sometime after the meridian of time or the days of Christ. It would be a wholesale, all encompassing Apostasy that would effect the whole earth. Although the Catholic church rose above the ashes, certain things went missing.
THELDSLIFE 6 months ago
@drewskione Why then did martin luther seing the clear flaws and wrongs of the church decide to reform, so that he would be able to come closer to the church as it is found in the bible. Also I can say that greek orthodox would not agree. They believe catholisism broke from orthodoxy.
hashaborgonja 6 months ago
@hashaborgonja I so made a statement I do not believe. My statement was absurd.
drewskione 6 months ago
@Cheshu1 truth
badgarcia 6 months ago
all fall short the glory of the lord.you mormons are stating that you can get into heaven if you only do good works.mis representation you will not be judged soely on your works.butt also the content and character of your heart, your soul if you have one.
badgarcia 6 months ago
@Cheshu1 Slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaandeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
hashaborgonja 6 months ago
@Cheshu1 oh yes wicked oh me, watch it or i might eat your kids, seriously grow up... =) All i have done is state the truth as it is, and the truth speaks against slandering gestures, try comw some doctrinal studd next time instead of taking misslead qoutes from people who didn't have all understanding god has
hashaborgonja 6 months ago