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  • I used greneades and i passed it thank you!

  • At 2:55 i ALWAYS get shot and die

  • From 1:48 - Checkpoint, I only threw 2 smoke grenades; for some reason at this part if you just keep unloading your Mk. 22 on the guards (granted you're also nailing the turret guards and actually hitting some of the frogs; takes 1 landed shot every time), they get distracted and their shots hit you less.

    I'm totally using your set as guidance through TBE for my Big Boss medal, so props for that, this run is savage. That being said, You Sir, are a Bastard. So fuckin lucky at so many points haha

  • I'm sorry, but this is bullshit. You were incredibly lucky doing this. For some reason, you took almost no damage at all from the FROGS between 6.46-7.10. When I do it, the ones at 6.56 just unload into me, and even at full health they kill me. And almost all of your grenades missed in that section- you were VERY lucky to have survived...

  • @videogamenostalgia

    Yeah I would say it's pretty BS. I don't consider this section of the game to have much thought necessary to pass it. It really is like 90% luck. Sometimes the FROGS kill you instantly, other times they miss half their shots or more.

    If you think this is the first time, trust me, it took many many attempts to beat this part of the game.

  • @ShinsoShikai Yeah, I just passed it and I agree. It is 90% luck. When i passed, I did nothing different to when I died. I just randomly did it.

  • @videogamenostalgia

    Same here. What I did in my videos is honestly what I did time and again until I got it.

  • this isn't the boss extreme, you lose way too low health when shot..

  • @olewowmgsfan3

    It is trust me, it is.

  • and awesome videos by the way. i really like you did it from a new game, cuz i was sick of seeing people blow through with the solar gun or starting off w/ 50 of everything

  • @creampuffjacks0n

    Thanks. Yeah I find a new game to be much, much harder.

  • heheh i bet this is where 70% of BBE run attempts come to an end. i'm going through one now and really dreading this

  • I have already gotten the BBE...but I wanted to go through the game to find a system to do each part. Been sitting here forever now trying to do this part.....Came straight to youtube, found your video, watched it one time, thats 1...time. And got through this part with virtually no health ( A fly could have sneezed on me and killed me) Cant thank you enough.

  • 10000th view!

    I believe this is the hardest part in achieving no kills/rations.

  • @koiwai108

    Agreed. By far the hardest...And congratulations on being the 10,000th viewer.

  • ive done it... its easy to do 

  • Ahh, you did a couple things i thought i couldn't do or i would get a kill. thx alot.

  • its funny because i just foundd out im on the wrong difficulty....................­.

  • i hate u!!!!!!!!!!! i cant do this i tryed every way possible and i cant do this!!! i haaateeee uuuu!! theres no way to get this done

  • @FelipeLumier

    Lol, it's ok. Just don't give up...sorry to say I couldn't be more original with that response.

  • I really hated this part, it was so difficult on the The Boss Extreme. I almost drop out my PS3 controler !

  • It's impossible!how can u do this??!

  • @Capafresca97

    Lol, not sure, I just do

  • The third part is fucking DIFFICULT!

  • I keep dying at the 2 check points.

  • scracth that the part with the jeeps, frogs and raven

  • why are u using the chaffs???

  • At the time, I wasn't sure if they affected the Gekko's, but they don't, so just disregard me using them.

  • lol i was gunna say they dont do anything atm

  • I tried hard but I couldn't pass the part that raging raven appears just with the MK. 2 Pistol, but I passed it using the Solar Gun, is there any problem?

    And in my status I have 7 flashbacks viewed from mission briefings, but all other status are ok for the BBE, is that ok?

  • Yes, you're perfectly fine.

    The solar gun isn't lethal, so it wont count against you, and viewing flashbacks doesnt affect anything in your chance for BBE.

  • Shinso do you use auto aim??

  • no, i dont

  • when raging raven appears i get shot from the two firsts tanks almost every time. it's really hard to shoot them with the m2 pistol

    do you have any tip for me??

    thanks

  • Auto-aim might help, but I can't confirm.

    Other wise, really you just need to aim better...there arent really any tricks or tips for the situation sadly

  • I aways die in the second part of the bike chase =(

  • when you trank the frogs on the van and they fall don't you get a kill??

  • No, it's unavoidable for the frogs to fall off of vehicles, so it doesnt register as a kill if I used a non-lethal weapon.

  • i cant get past the bit with the haven troopers (the part were it goes slow mo and you go under the two exploding trucks) PLEASE have you got any advice?

    Also i cant get past the bit were the two truck come out from the left just before the haven troopers without getting hit. so by the time i get to the haven troopers, i have about 1/2 life PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help :)

  • Really, most of it comes down to grenade placement. For going under the two trucks, you want to land your grenade right where they appear, so that they have trouble hitting you. If you don't land it right, expect to be retrying a lot.

    If I'm thinking of the right part, the two trucks that come from the left, you need to just land quick and accurate shots, otherwise they'll bring your health down really fast

  • Thnks, i got past it just after i posted my comment. thx for the quick reply

  • wait a second.......this kills count!?

    omg..hideo its crazy

  • ok thanks, imma try to look for it.. i've only play this game once and i recall getting it from the shadow moses area(before crying wolf) and i just got surprised 'coz you got it before raven, btw i've watched some of your vids and it was amazing, you master the no sound slow walk :):):) that's so pro..

  • where did you got this chaff g.? ain't you'll get that during the place of shadow moses? pls reply...

  • I grabbed the chaff grenades at the end of Act 2

  • Shinso i can use the solar gun ?? or this gun is a special item ??

  • Yes, you can use the solar gun.

  • is throwing the chaff affect the gekko?

  • Not during the bike chase. If I threw them, (I believe I did), I wasn't sure yet if it affected them, at the time of filming this.

  • i think this is the hardest part of the game in the first slow mo i always die

  • isn't the seringe a recovery item?

  • Luckily because you need it against Mantis to win, the game allows you to use it whenever without it counting against you.

  • nah its just nanomachines.

  • why do you use chaffs? is for the gekkos???

  • I used them in case they had helped. But in reality, the chaffs don't do anything in this part, and aren't really needed at all.

  • this is way better than the 139 run i saw .. i mean not as skilled shooting wise but way more clever and more successfull in the third part especially ..

  • when you shoot frogs off the van do those count as kills?

  • As long as its not a lethal weapon, then no

  • it says your ammo is infinite .. is that what is is supposed to be while doing the bbe run ?? if so i never freaking noticed before .. daaang ..

  • It's just for the bike chase part. That's why I have infinite ammo

  • Just Passed it too took me numerous tries. My best advice is timing. Also in the last stage when going against the frogs its best to have full health like ShinsoShikai did. And when I went against the 1st hummer in the last stage I used auto aim and the shot gun with the V ring. never failed after I figured that out.

  • Good :)

  • Finally made it, but thanks to the Solar Gun. And if that's a Special Item I'm screwed and have to reload before I made this ride with the Solar Gun.

  • No, I'm pretty sure it doesn't count, so you're fine.

  • Does Solar Gun count as a Special Item? It doesn't or am I wrong? Cause it can help a bit to take out guys on vehicles.

  • No, it doesnt

  • what is the point of the syringe 07:41 ???

  • wtf y didnt the bird things hit u??? and wat the crap i have never had a frog soldier shoot at mama wit a sniper

  • if it helps you can take cover behind big mama holding triangle

  • i keep dieing on the bit when eva gos slow -mo ( the first time ) she just stops after and the pmcs shoot like fuck =(

  • The part where frogs come again is just so fucking impossible, I couldnt manage it alive even with full hp at the start of the phase....

  • If I use the needle thing, will I still get the big boss emblem?

  • At minute 4:23 your life bar is restored all of a sudden. How did that happen?

  • It refills for you at that point.

  • i never play mgs4.but i got play mgs3 extreme mode n can only use 3 stun.g max.but u sure got a lot of stun.G.

  • They give you infinite at this part. Regardless of difficulty.

  • I honestly doubt that this is the Boss Extreme Level.. Frogs aren't easy to pass by especially in the last part.. and most attacks will take almost half of your life.. Your walkthrough, sir, may be at least at Big Boss, not The Boss Extreme..

  • I'm sorry to dissapoint, but it is Boss Extreme. I've had others question it before as well. But it really is.

    If you think I was able to make it through with this little trouble every single time, then you're wrong. Trust me, I didn't do this part in one try, and there were several cases that I had a much tougher time than seen here.

  • Yea, this part's been giving me trouble. I'm not even doing it on Extreme. I'm doing a normal run with no alerts/kills/items just as kind of a warm up. And this part is really handing it to me.

  • Can someone help me? Whenever I do this part I turn on auto-aim but every time an enemy appears that I WANT to shoot the auto-aim starts dicking around and doesnt actually aim at anyone even if their the only one there and are 10 feet away so my shots miss and I die, so is there any solution to this?

  • I can't really give advice on that. I never use auto-aim

  • you used tha bandana how is this helping T~T

  • I didn't use the bandana, and I didn't even have it unlocked at the time.

  • notice how at certain points in the game you are given infinite ammo.

  • i tried what this guy did but i just die XD

  • I know, it will take more than one try. There is some luck involved.

  • sry i mean the 3 scene!

  • If u have passed the first scene and if u are not as good as the person in the vid(with first person pistol) take the sawn off shotgun and aim to the soldier on top of the second car

  • hi, like some other people that wrote here, i ofently die after the first slow-motion camera (when eva jumps over the barricade). would you say it's a matter of luck? do stun/smoke grenades really make a difference? thanks in advance

  • The whole scene has a lot of luck to it.

    But getting a stun or smoke around their cars before making the jump, and shooting one of the drivers while jumping the barricade can help.

    It won't really save you, but both of those help. Then it's just how well you place your nades after you land. And how fast you can drop the soldiers with handgun shots.

  • What's the point in using the Chaff against the Gekko?

  • There isn't one. At the time of recording though, I figured it wouldn't hurt to try. I hadn't been sure until afterward if it did anything though.

  • Right. Thx for the quick reply. I'm trying to go as fast as I can for BBE on a non-naked run, but I can't hope to be as skillful or as patient (in strategizing beforehand, rather than just going for it).

  • Good plan. Strategizing before hand really helps.

  • How many tryies did it take to do this? I'm stuck on this part, it's almost impossible, when I get through that the first big blockade where you go slow mo, I either die or live barely live then die because of it.

  • I don't truly know. It took me a lot of tries. Too many to count.

  • i always die against the turrets and do those birds count as kills?

  • Yeah, it's a tough part.

    Also, they don't count. But if you hug against Eva, you shouldn't need to shoot them down.

  • ok im now in the last part before raven and im doing that on new game, im surprised of myself btw thanx 4 posting and 4 answer any question!

  • Nice.

    No problem. I try to answer everyone I can on all of my videos.

  • how do you hug eva?

  • Just hold down triangle.

  • quick question though, how the hell did you get full health when rage comes out and you were almost dead before hand......

  • When she appears. You're life bar resets.

  • EVA's pretty tough to be able to drive like that after all those stun grenades going off next to her head! :D

  • Yeah, she's a beast.

  • well i just beat this part, took me forever, and the sad part is I still got to beat it on TBE when I unlock it :(.... the double barrel shotgun with V Ring ammo is a god sent for this part.

  • Lol, yeah. It's a tough part in the game. Good luck on Extreme.

  • Just when I thought that I was good with the Mk. II Pistol...

    Thanks for the video-I now have a better idea of where to chuck off the smoke grenades in the ever-so-annoying third sector of the motorcycle escape.

  • No problem. Glad I could help.

  • i keep dying over here i'm doing your strategy and everything

  • There really is no strategy for this. It really is basically luck.

  • you just gotta try to avoid being shot by the guys in the hummer turrets, there always teh one that kills me or takes so much health off me, that one stray bullet will kill me

  • oh ok i'll take your advice, hopefully, i'll survive

  • do the flyinng people count as kills?

  • No, they don't. They are un-manned

  • thanks again because they are really annoying

  • oh! thats right,

    sorry Shinso, i didn't notice it in the first place that u just laundered the gun only hahaha

    ;-P

  • No big deal. It's cool.

  • he just laundered the gun from drebin. he hadn't done so yet so hat was that animation, not buying ammo.

  • Thanks for the support. People look for any way they can deny that this is Extreme mode.

  • heres a tip. use a automatic pistol on the barrels next to the frogs. it works. doesnt count as a kill either. i tried this...but i accidently killed a frog T.T so i have to do it again. BUT. at the end it said i had only one kill so this works. i tried it. it helps a lot when they start to mass you with frogs. solar gun is a god send for this part as well.

  • dude, you're buying non-lethal ammunition/equipment from his shop, nice try dude, thats undeniable proof that this isnt the boss extreme.

  • Once again, sorry to dissapoint you. But I'm not buying non-lethal ammo/equipment.

  • lol, this isnt even The Boss Extreme, kid

  • Sorry to disapoint you, but it is.

  • U can buy stun granade in BigBoss Extreme?

  • I don't believe so.

  • basically u gotta sleep the dudes on the humvees, they get ONE shot on you, and basically its luck based from there on

  • Yes, it is. What makes you say its not.

  • He´s right aint this Extreme

  • Wait, are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

  • No,no you are right.......:o

  • Ahh, I couldn't tell you what you meant.

  • Yeeeeeeesh. I mean. I actually think it might be just pure luck to get through here on BBE. Shinso's video did not help much. He has very valuable tips but I get half my health taken out by the two gunners that try to block you together every...single...time. Short of liking pain, I can't really think of a good reason for anybody to play a perfect BBE for fun. The face came must be cool. But this? I play games to relieve anxiety and tension. Not add to it. Kudos for the video though

  • Yeah, sometimes I die right in the beginning of the 2nd part xD and sometimes in the Resistance part, they see me RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING XDD

  • Thanks for taking the time to post this Shinso. I'm doing this on a second playthrough, but not using anything special like you did. It's hard, but possible.

    I now can do the third part about 75% of the time. Using auto-aim on the first two turrets ensures no more reloading from damage; and the smoke works 100% of the time for me on the next two (make sure to hold triangle passing the red car). Thanks for the tips, Dude!

  • dont no y u bother 2 record the first 4 minutes, its just a white screen because of the stun nades

  • Lol, thats true.

  • i get to the part right before where she says "the frogs"! and i die,i think it might be because i didnt throw enough smoke grenades...did u have trouble here?and do u have tips for me?

  • Hmm, i can't recall. Considering I had trouble throughout the entire thing. Besides aiming better, using V-ring, or throwing smoke and stuns in the correct spots, there aren't any tips.

  • would a v-ring work better?

  • Yeah, it would.

  • at the 2nd part of this im having trouble shotting the michine gun guy in the 2nd van and u got him in 2 shots,any tips for me?

  • There really aren't any tips besides aiming better.

  • omg yes! i beat this scene! lol i kept dying and dying so i replayed the whole scene saving up my solar gun ammo till the last part and i finally beat this horrible level...so happy i almost watched the cut scene afterwards before realizing the time lol

  • lol, nice job.

  • Lol, you get new Solar Gun ammo every checkpoint xD but NICE you beat this level, I just plain suck ._. I keep stunning myself and die while blinded.

  • lol wow i suck at this...i didnt die on solid normal but i keep dying on extreme! sumtimes i die right off the bat lol...im stuck on the second checkpoint of this part and whenever i get to the second pair of humvees i get murdered ...*sigh* ill just keep tyring i guess =____=

  • every1 having rouble with this should keep in mind that if thier health is depleted and they reach a checkpoint, save then quit, set ur PS3 a few days ahead 2 restore health then keep going, it helps gr8ly thruout the game on the 'no health items stipulation'

  • Yeah, that would work. But I might feel sort of cheap using that.

  • Haven't quite gotten through this, but just something small I came across. After the checkpoint where your health is restored, the second guy in the jeep you come across you can actually auto-aim and hit him with your tranq gun if you fire as soon as it says locked-on. Doesn't always work, but I've had it work often enough to think it worthy of pointing out.

  • Hmm, sounds interesting. I never messed with Auto-aim.

  • Even better actually, but I was going through other guides to compare strategies and I saw a tip that works great for the first 2 jeeps in the area. Auto-aim using the twin barrel shotgun with the v-rings. Hide behind Eva till the first jeep ends up on your side then pop up and shoot. Doesn't even require a headshot and it locks on very quickly. The second one you can just stay aiming and shoot as soon as it's locked on. Just need to be more accurate with my smoke grenades on the FROGs now hehe

  • The only trouble I face, is that I don't have any V-Ring ammo.

  • Sorry but but if you use the twin barrel shotgun don't you end up killing the pmc's? I am currently stuck in the last scene before raging raven and am finding it very hard to make it through. Any tip would be helpful. Does the shotgun take different ammo i can use without killing the pmc's?

  • If you use V-ring ammo it's basically tranq ammo. It knocks enemies out.

  • Thanks for the tip! will definitely try it!

  • the twin barrel shotgun takes v-ring ammo which does not kill the enemies

  • You can change the shotgun ammo. Press and hold L2 and go to shotgun and press O until it goes to V-RING.

  • I never messed with Auto-aim but it is a very effective strategy.

  • Ok, this is officially insane. It's not too easy to aim the grenades and all. How come you sometimes use smoke and sometimes stun?

  • Sometimes smoke work better.

  • I think unless u have played this scene on bbe u dnt appreciate how difficult it actually is.

  • Definitely. I never expected it to be as tough as it was.

  • can i ask considerin im actually stuck on the scene. wats the key i mean on the vids it looks easy nd i ust always seem to fail when i meet the frogs,

  • Trust me, that's far from easy. I failed a lot of times too. Really there isn't much of a key to getting past it. It sort of comes down to luck. You just keep trying your best until you get it.

  • Because RR's minions like NEVER hit you in their attempt to shoot you down.

  • Another way is to SHOOT THE FRIGGIN BARRELS!! They do NOT count as kills and it helps big time.

  • Yeah, that can work as well.

  • ups sorry, my bad!

    can i earn some extra if i master bbe from a new game or is for challenge?

  • No, it's just for an extra challenge.

  • hello guys!

    fortunately I finally found the "secret key", making this passage quite easy to handle.

    JUST USE THE **SOLAR GUN** ALL THE WAY, don't shoot the ravens and don't use grenades at all. the solar gun needn't to be loaded at all each time, in order to take down the frogs; one short-fired hit suffices to make them gone. by doing this, I ended up with the health bar 1/2 full.

    greetz rosh

  • Well, the majority of us know that. But if you're doing a New Game BBE run. Then you don't have that option.