How Hollywood Gets It Wrong on Torture and Interrogation: P2

[TheRichDarkEarth]

A real eye-opener. Thank you.

[HenryOrientJnr]

As I understand it, the Bush administration approved the use of waterboarding exactly three times, only against known high-ranking Al Qaeda operatives.

The abuse at Abu Ghraib was not officially sanctioned and those responsible have been punished.

I think in historical context it will be seen that the Bush administration attempted to be extremely careful in its use of "enhanced interrogation techniques".

The policy was a mistake however and I am saddened that some conservatives defend it.

[Exitus767]

I think history will tell that the Bush administration attempted to be extremely careful in trying to not get freakin caught.

[AndroidPolitician]

@HenryOrientJnr

Actually there are 30,000 people in Iraq being held without trial and an unknown number of them are being tortured.

[Xid3d]

the problem with making secrets public is that terrorists now know that water boarding is fake.

Now we will have to go with how they do it in the movie "Good Fellas" where they put that guys head in a vice.

So thanks to you retarded liberals giving away secrets, we have to use harder methods now!

[yohohobottleofrum]

Torture never saves "countless lives". If the CIA doesn't know about a plot against the US several months in advance, then no amount of torture would get information to stop anything.

[ChudFapper]

Again, you people see the world in black and white. There is a place for torture, but that doesn't mean it should be used liberally.

If torture can save hundreds of thousands of lives, for example, in the case of a nuclear device being placed in a highly populated area, I support torture if there's a high chance they got a suspect who's very likely to be guilty.

In regular criminal cases, I don't support it.

If you oppose torture to save countless lives, you're both ignorant and downright evil

[catgivens]

thank you for this invaluable film.

I'm passing it along.

[Bucephalus2008]

Bush, Cheney and other members of the Bush administration should be prosecuted for war crimes. In fact Cheney admitted on a TV news broadcast that he supports waterboarding. These are despicable human beings.

[NickJones55]

"...Cheney admitted on a TV news broadcast that he supports waterboarding."

I support waterboarding Cheney & company.

[Bucephalus2008]

NickJones55 Good for you. You are travelling in notorious company with the likes of Bush and cronies, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and other terrorists. These are the people who agree with you and sanction torture.

[Bucephalus2008]

Torture as entertainment is irresponsible and egregious.

[miltownmom]

Programs like 24 hours do influence the viewers, whether they realize it or not. These programs are not entertainment. They should be banned like pornography is banned. If people want to watch this type of "entertainment" they can go to special stores and rent it. It does not speak well of us as a society.

[Darusdei]

Well i like 24 it's like a comedy for my wicked taste :D

i just cant wait what kinda crazy shit Bauer

does next :D

also the veeery pro american view is very funny :D

[gavin190084]

Shut the fuck up! THis is TV, and it is for entertainment. I am a former US army Green Beret, and I have never tortured anyone, nor witnessed any US personel torture anyone.

[Bucephalus2008]

Reality is otherwise. Unfortunately, the Bush administration lacked boundaries and sanctioned torture. Maybe not everyone is affected by popular entertainment, but many believe the myths, especially when the president approves of this misguided policy.

[pepelapiu2004]

Did you think the video was attacking you personally?

I you have never seen torture, then I guess you were never posted at abu graid or Guantanamo

[ChudFapper]

It's sad to see the insanity human rights have brought us. They say the health of one murderer is worth more than the lives of thousands of innocents.

[Bucephalus2008]

You are operating under the premise that the person is presumed guilty without a trial. Because of Bush's sanctioning of torture, many innocent people have been injured or died because of this unacceptable policy. The United State, once a bastion of democracy, has lost credibility on the world stage. You obviously disagree with seasoned professionals who maintain that torture does not work. If you believe that human rights does not have a place in our society, you are truly a lost soul.

[pepelapiu2004]

>They say the health of one murderer is worth

>more than the lives of thousands of innocents.

You and I certainly didn't watch the same video ..... did you see the first part?

[Darusdei]

apparently you dont even grasp the concept

and i would advise to sit down and be quiet

if you cant keep up...

[ThoughtCriminal911]

BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA. US GOVERMENT STANDS FOR TORTURE. The ordinary citizens are not to blame.

[utterlyplanetarium]

It's not saying they are. And it's not saying the US government doesn't utilise torture. It's saying they shouldn't, and there's no law or reason to support such acts.

Which I for one am quite pleased about, whatever Howard "Jack Bauer is awesome" Gordon might witter on about.

[OneWeirdDude]

@utterlyplanetarium Jack Bauer IS awesome. It's just that he's as much a fiction as the Ninja Turtles and shouldn't be taken seriously.