@hondo42 I've heard. All I can do right now is listen to another Final Fantasy's great soundtrack and read the youtube comments about the areas and characters...I want to play it sooooo BAD
@finalfan190 he clearly speaks in the game, maybe he would have the same guy who voiced Vincent in that awful Advent Children movie. I found the actor for Vincent in that movie quite good, he has the deep raspy voice and that's what I see Shadow to have personally.
@darthgrahf Composer Nobuo Uematsu actually used spaghetti-western music composer Ennio Morricone (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly) as a point of reference while writing the music for Shadow.
Developers need to understand One thing when they do remakes: Don't change the game, simply remake the game according to graphical standards, perhaps switch some chests around, add a few, make a couple new items. Too much change is bad when you are remaking a game.
@ConvictedHeart I don't know FFVI had some pretty severe balance issues in the endgame. I beat Kefka on my first try at level 40 just spamming Ultima. Cyan could use an overhaul too. If they remade it, I'd like those issues fixed.
@CronoManiac42 I didn't mean that those are the ONLY things they should change. I DO mean that they should be conservative. Sure add some content say an extra dungeon or something. But to change too much is bad.
Shadow always reminded me more of a cowboy/wild west kind of guy than a ninja. Not that ninjas aren't cool, but even his theme has a western feel to it!
Slander Shadow and he doesn't care. Slander Locke and he'll rip your lungs out.
My opinion is that Clyde was Locke's "friend" that was jailed when they were orphans together. Of course Clyde escaped and was on the run only to fall into deeper trouble. A year later he abandoned Relm and shrouded his identity in shadow.
>_< no, not so depressing... its supposed to be kind of Clint Eastwoody.. cheesy n campy yet mysterious.. I used to whistle the original for hours on end and dumb asses who wouldnt understand made fun of me at school (not that it bothered or stopped me)
Shadow: Relm, I am your..... Relm: Noooo!! It can't be true!!! That's IMPOSSIBLE! Shadow:...... Relm: Oh! Cute Puppy! You were saying? Shadow: ....never mind Terra: Are you really Locke's older... Shadow: *mumbles to himself* what the fuck am I doing around these people. Locke: O shrouded one, don't you take off your mask when you fart? Gau: uahu *rofl* fart! Relm: *farts* Gau: *lhao* Relm: *paints his portrait* !@#$%^&*()_%TG^YH&UJ(IO)P@!ESAIO124!58%03782@!)@(&$@)(#*%()@&#%_@##(@)%*KEFF)#JFMM
but yano whose gonna get that remake instead * clears throat * ... The MOMMAS BOY ! The Mommas boy and his litle crew of misfit remakes , ooooo a One Winged Angel . Well I'll tell you what he can do with that wing , he can go fly himself in circles ! Homosexual Circles at that HAHAHAHAHA
@JbCrosell Actually, the graphics are pretty good for the time it was made, 16-bit consoles can't do wonders. In my opinion it looks better than FF7 atleast, early 3d graphics are just somehow annoying to look at...
@JbCrosell I can't think of a game that makes use of the SNES' 16-bit graphics better than FF6. Look at the intricate detail in the environments! Beautiful for what they were working with.
@gomgeya I disagree on a remake... if the present day has taught us anything, it's that anything that gets remade now will end up horrible. You, I, and everyone here knows that if capcom made a remake, the first thing they'd do is try and make it more.... modern... Yes boys and girls, it is possible to break something good, trying to fix it when it's fine as it is. As for the sprites... hell, some sprite games back then still stand taller then most HD, OMG THEY ARE SO REAL, 3D graphics now.
Awesome! I loved this remixed version. The middle of the track has an ominous air about it. It almost gave me the chills. I even like the character artwork you chose for the display. Thanks for posting this
Gau can't copy all monster in the game... just the Veldt Monsters. There are a lot of monsters on the Veldt, but it's nothing compared to the amount in the whole game.
My favorites are Setzer, Mog, ang Gogo. Fixed Dice, Jump (w/spear), and the ability to use every skill in the game... win.
i also remember myself giving megalixir to magic pot in ff7 for hours hours hours and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz all characters final attack to master eccept the last one :P what a geek child life shame to my mom
best character is cyan... i dont remember exactly if it was 4 or 8 hit attack but this attack was the strongest of the game ... i remember myself fighting dynosaur in a little forest for hour and hour and hour and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
youe right i fought in that forest to . was a good place to build up you guys ex level after countless battles it gave you something and i to used it on cyan......man his attack was bad ass. cant think of the name of the item.....what a good game
Tyranosaurs give you like Imps Armor and the Brachosaurs can give you economizer relics. The other cool place to level up is the desert south of the Southern most town where the Hoover and Cactrots are. Cactrot gave 10,000 gil and 10 MP points.
If you waste a genji glove and offering on Sabin you're wasting a good character. Offering + genji glove goes to Locke, Shadow uses throw stocked up on tact stars, and Sabin uses blitz, have Celes heal or use runic sword if your enemies are magic based.
Yep I'm doing that now. 8 for whatever reasons is weaker than 4. And Dispatch 1 would be his strongest it seems unless you use 'retort' his #2 and wait.
Shadow's reason for selling his services to the empire are somewhat vague. The rumor that he would slit his momma's throat for a nickle was just a rumor.
He deliberately spread that rumor himself.
*He would* is an obvious assumption and makes people give him the benifit of the doubt..
*He did* would have been either true or slander. Cuz if he did slit his momma's throat for a nickle, he wouldn't be doing business at all.
Do you think he would let someone SLANDER his reputation?
this is in regards to veriden22's comment. your 1A. isnt quite right, although sometimes the drive of a ninja was yes for greed, however. Something most people dont know is that ninjas were in fact samurai, which as u know were very VERY honorable, the reason for the ninja would be like a spec ops member to our military. the lords of the time were simply put warmongers, there for certain tasks needed to be preformed, without fear of compromising there lord.
NInjas were typically not Samurai man. If you read about it, you'd know that Ninja were typically made up of the peasant population. They were not born of nobility as the Samurais were. True, some Samurai's practice ninjutsu, however this was not too common. The shogunates would regularly hire the Ninja to carry out unconventional missions that were deemed dishonorable to the Samurai/Bushido way of life.
The entire game was basically the COMMON AND INDEPENDENT PEOPLE vs the EMPIRE, which was composed of Nobles, Aristocrats, Warmongers, and Scientists that wanted to subjugate everyone.
Cid was probably the only scientist and Celes the only General of which defected to the returners. Everyone else was still Imperial...which wanted to subjugate everyone.
I have always hated the nobles and upper classes. Well. Not all the upper class. Primarily the one's that use their power politically and violently in order to subjugate everyone else.
I think this mix is more fitting for shadow because like someone said it is less country western and more zen like, but the guitar is out of tune starting at 0:56 which I find incredibly annoying. They need to re-record the guitar, or get a pitch shifting plugin.
I agree with you, the western sound of the original is BY FAR better, but I believe the mystic sound of this one (even hen flooded by the background sounds) gives its own rightful place.
The reason (I believe) that Shadow's theme as some qualities of that western twang is because if you know his history, he was a train robber with one of his burglar counterparts. Train robbers have typically been seen as a western symbol, so his theme is actually quite fitting.
Actually, no Shadow is NOT a ninja he is a mercenary it clearly states that the first time you see him in the game. His JOB CLASS is ninja because of his abilities but in FF games JOB CLASS never has any affect on one's personality. And it is as Megamantheory said about train robbers. Also the song indicates lonliness more than thing else which is part of who shadow is because what he had lost in his life and what he has done.
Also, what kind of eastern person would name their child Clyde? Which is a big western name. So in conclussion, Shadow/Clyde is western based, just because you know ninja arts does not make you from the east...in the famous words of Tyler Durden: "Sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken."
Megamantheory is probably right that the train robbing aspect of his backstory was the reason for the western-style theme. They probably named him Clyde after Bonnie and Clyde. But the game does refer to him as a ninja and he definitely looks like one, so I still think they should have made it more ninja/zen like.
1A.) Ninjas were not known of Zen they were assassins with out honor to be seen but worked for the greed of Lords
1B.) Mercs also work for money to appease the greed in themselves by appeasing the greed in their employers, which is the same thing as 1A.
2.) Dressing like a ninja does not make you a ninja, he wears what he does to hide his identity and also to optimize his chances of remaining unseen in dark areas. Have the right tools for the job
Yes he does. He throws shurikens, he's secretive, and he uses swords. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any western outlaw ever robbed a train with a Katana blade and a pouch of ninja stars.
Shadow was not a Ninja during his time as a train robber. He was not even known as Shadow. If anything, it would probably be more appropriate to label him as a thief or a brigand.
I was referring to him personally. I'm not even sure what my original comment was in reference to, but I am aware of the name "Shadow" that Clyde and Baram had used for their team.
None of those names were ever used for Shadow's weapons.
In the original, Cyan's weapon limit was to the Knife*.
I know what I am talking about.
Yes, I would call it a Katana, but seriously, that's not what the original game says. :)
It's obvious that I don't really like the FF6 Advanced version. Yes, there were some good changes, but overall, they turned it into a japanophilia game.
And we all know that FF isn't about Japan cramming it's culture down people's throats.
I'm sorry for your retardedness then, but you would really trick yourself into believing that Cyan was fighting with KNIVES the whole time? He was obviously a Samurai, and he obviously used Katana, and even fans of the original could see that something was totally fucked up in the translation. I'm also sorry for you hating the Advanced version, simply because the nation that originally MADE the game, have like Two characters, which only vaguely refference their culture through their weapons.
It's a fantasy you ass terrorist. DID YOU NOT READ "Yes, I would call it a Katana, but seriously, that's not what the original game says. :)" Those so called "translation errors" and convenient changes were part of the game. "Son of a Submariner!" "He'd slit his mama's throat for a nickle" BOTH ARE CLASSIC Remove your idiotic response to me and take my sarcasm with a grain of salt. We both love FF6. Don't ruin it by being a jackass to fellow fans. ff7 fans already piss most people off.
The reaper may be one step behind Shadow, but Shadow is one step behind chuck Norris!
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The greatest of all time
Torin2015 4 days ago
I want to have sex with this game and I haven't even played it yet.
Neobahamut0zero 1 month ago
@Neobahamut0zero Yeah man, greatest game ever made.
hondo42 1 month ago
@hondo42 I've heard. All I can do right now is listen to another Final Fantasy's great soundtrack and read the youtube comments about the areas and characters...I want to play it sooooo BAD
Neobahamut0zero 1 month ago
Be careful. His dog eats strangers...
JasonGarrick 3 months ago
Thumbs up if hearing this made you pull out your old copy of FF3 and play it.
NiHuWi 3 months ago
@NiHuWi It's final fantasy 6 in England ^-^
goldenfantasygirl 3 months ago
@goldenfantasygirl Yeah. I know its FF6 everywhere but the US, but I figured most people would know what I meant.
NiHuWi 3 months ago
@NiHuWi I knew what you meant...O_o...just thought i would share it for the people who didint ^-^
goldenfantasygirl 3 months ago
I personally think Steve Blum is a bit overused in games and anime these days..but this game definitely needs a remake
HeSheYouMeTheyWeUsOk 4 months ago
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ichiha123 5 months ago
Who do you think should voice Shadow? Kevin Conroy who did Batman? Or Steve Blum who did Spike Spiegel?
CHCHuser 6 months ago
@CHCHuser I dont think he should have a voice
finalfan190 6 months ago
@finalfan190 he clearly speaks in the game, maybe he would have the same guy who voiced Vincent in that awful Advent Children movie. I found the actor for Vincent in that movie quite good, he has the deep raspy voice and that's what I see Shadow to have personally.
GamingIdiot42Neo 4 months ago
@CHCHuser i think the guy who voiced Kain in the FF4 remake
CFalcon095 4 months ago
watch?v=HABYaIn_Xd8
my remix
xILOVEMUSIKx 7 months ago
This makes it sound like a Western movie
darthgrahf 7 months ago
@darthgrahf Composer Nobuo Uematsu actually used spaghetti-western music composer Ennio Morricone (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly) as a point of reference while writing the music for Shadow.
waddalicious 6 months ago
Developers need to understand One thing when they do remakes: Don't change the game, simply remake the game according to graphical standards, perhaps switch some chests around, add a few, make a couple new items. Too much change is bad when you are remaking a game.
ConvictedHeart 8 months ago
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CronoManiac42 7 months ago
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CronoManiac42 7 months ago
@ConvictedHeart I don't know FFVI had some pretty severe balance issues in the endgame. I beat Kefka on my first try at level 40 just spamming Ultima. Cyan could use an overhaul too. If they remade it, I'd like those issues fixed.
CronoManiac42 7 months ago
@CronoManiac42 I didn't mean that those are the ONLY things they should change. I DO mean that they should be conservative. Sure add some content say an extra dungeon or something. But to change too much is bad.
ConvictedHeart 7 months ago
Heard this guy would slit his mama's throat for a nickel 0_0!!!!!
TheInstantClassic1 8 months ago 6
@TheInstantClassic1 i would do the same XD jas kiddin
pinovids 3 months ago
@TheInstantClassic1 Depending on the day he'd do that just because he felt like it
shadowskwerl 1 week ago
"Wherever I go the reaper is just one step behind me..."
GamingIdiot42Neo 9 months ago
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OMFG I ABSOULUTLY LOVE THIS! I POSTED IT TO MY FB MS TWITTER AND YOUTBE ACCOUNT!!!!! And IM burning it to a disc! BEST EVER!
TerraXGaara 9 months ago
Leave us. The dog eats strangers.
SwordSeraph 9 months ago 2
Terra.
In this world are many like me who've killed their emotions. Don't forget that.
-Shadow
My favorite quote of my favorite game.
Kefkadet 10 months ago 12
@Kefkadet Yes, an awesome quote.
HeatLegs 9 months ago
@Kefkadet
TerraxShadow. I ship it!
AngelofKaos 3 months ago
i thought they used gil XD how is it they know of nickels? o_o
leafblight27 11 months ago
He'd slit his mamas throat for a nickel!
superherox7 1 year ago 3
Shadow always reminded me more of a cowboy/wild west kind of guy than a ninja. Not that ninjas aren't cool, but even his theme has a western feel to it!
Th3Skull3r 1 year ago 2
@Th3Skull3r
yeah, he really wasn't much of a ninja lol.
hell Sabin was throwing around Aurabolts that looked like kamehameha's
locke was stealing shit
cyan was swinging that katana like a madman
and shadow threw shit at people.
I still got love for this Ninja though, and this remix!
sick beat, Peace
PixelJustice20XX 1 year ago
*pats Edge* I'm sorry, dude, he has his own theme.
... Also, you're an high-visible ninja.
GOD I love this remix!
InvernoEstivo 1 year ago
Shadow is a true ninja, screw Yuffie and Rikku!
Shadow's my 2nd favorite FF6 character, 1st being Sabin
EliroX904 1 year ago 2
Greatest Final Fantasy ever. After this one they all sucked!
This is the only game where the bad guy wins twice!
johnnytable2 1 year ago
@johnnytable2 what do you mean twice?
ColeCity 1 year ago
I heard his slit his own mother's throat for a nickel.
cygmarx 1 year ago
umm, am i the only one who thinks this remix is crap?
g0ing2n0where 1 year ago
@g0ing2n0where Yes.
iHeronBlue 1 year ago
He'd slit his mama's throat for a nickel!
HandsomeDynamite 1 year ago
Slander Shadow and he doesn't care. Slander Locke and he'll rip your lungs out.
My opinion is that Clyde was Locke's "friend" that was jailed when they were orphans together. Of course Clyde escaped and was on the run only to fall into deeper trouble. A year later he abandoned Relm and shrouded his identity in shadow.
Under lock and shadow resides the past.
LoneIndividual 1 year ago
>_< no, not so depressing... its supposed to be kind of Clint Eastwoody.. cheesy n campy yet mysterious.. I used to whistle the original for hours on end and dumb asses who wouldnt understand made fun of me at school (not that it bothered or stopped me)
terryelfster 1 year ago
Where's a crummy FF song?
MonstersNightmare 1 year ago
Shadow, why are you just standing there?! We're gonna miss the airship!
SDRoman 1 year ago
@ff3player that was an enhanced port, it doesn't fall under remake standards
JackeLL1134 1 year ago
9 people are going to get killed by their own best friend... For the right price.
SarothCyngus 1 year ago 4
That's SHADOW! He'd slit his mama's throat for a nickle...
Kev95682 1 year ago
Is this on a guitar?
wavepsychic 1 year ago
all i gotta say is: sleep around at every inn you possibly can with shadow in your group. you'll see their story unravel.
dragobo 1 year ago 3
The real reason Shadow never takes his mask off is because.... Relm glued it to his face when she was little! :D
2RandomGirls 1 year ago
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He'd slit his mama's throat for a nickel.
BLBDart 1 year ago
@BLBDart thank you captain obvious
megabobu 1 year ago
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BLBDart 1 year ago
badass
joejoeyjoejoejoseph 1 year ago
Where can I get the mp3?
DecimusEX 1 year ago
Epic.
Deathbymimes 1 year ago
"He comes and goes like the wind, swearing allegiance to no one. Hidden behind his wintry gaze lies a face known to none who live..."
mede2099 1 year ago
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HerrQuixota 2 years ago
There is a loneliness to Shadow's theme.
But it's an acid edged loneliness. He is dangerous and mysterious but sad and regretful.
Song is perfect for him.
AMDfreak27 2 years ago 3
For a ninja shadow has an awesome western theme.
MiaLaLa4 2 years ago 4
Total slaughter...
Total slaughter...
I won't leave... a single man alive
La de da de dai.
Genocide
La de da de duh
An ocean of blood.
Oh shit sorry that was vash the stampede, but the characters are kind of similar in the fact they're portrays as ruthless drifters.
El90Proof 2 years ago
When in actuality they're both not nearly as dreaded and sadistic as they're thought to be.
Well then again shadow still might slit his mother's throat for a nickle. =x
El90Proof 2 years ago
Final Fantasy VI had the best ensemble cast of characters ever seen in gaming history, with Shadow being among the best!
Kahalasama 2 years ago
I just hated his randomly leaving the party when he's needed the most.
I loved the character intros in the game.
OnionMan 2 years ago
Best final fantasy game ever, best story poor graphics, this one deserves a remake!
JbCrosell 2 years ago 43
but yano whose gonna get that remake instead * clears throat * ... The MOMMAS BOY ! The Mommas boy and his litle crew of misfit remakes , ooooo a One Winged Angel . Well I'll tell you what he can do with that wing , he can go fly himself in circles ! Homosexual Circles at that HAHAHAHAHA
Sasoriemo 2 years ago
@JbCrosell Actually, the graphics are pretty good for the time it was made, 16-bit consoles can't do wonders. In my opinion it looks better than FF7 atleast, early 3d graphics are just somehow annoying to look at...
DarkvindFromIllier 1 year ago 2
@JbCrosell
When it came out those graphics were AWESOME! lol I wanted to cry the first time I played it. ;p
littlelopeep 1 year ago
@JbCrosell If by "poor graphics" you mean "badass for it's time" then I'll forgive you...
mogthemoogle160 1 year ago
@JbCrosell I agree with the remake part though :D
mogthemoogle160 1 year ago
@mogthemoogle160
Offcourse, those graphics where good for it's time.
But now! we want voices and ff13 graphics!!! :o
Kefka needs to keep his laugh though. o.O
JbCrosell 1 year ago
@JbCrosell they did remake the final fantasy 6 in 2007 on the GBA
ff3player 1 year ago
@JbCrosell I can't think of a game that makes use of the SNES' 16-bit graphics better than FF6. Look at the intricate detail in the environments! Beautiful for what they were working with.
Davetacular45 1 year ago
@JbCrosell I completely agree. A remake would be amazing.
johnnytable2 1 year ago
@JbCrosell The geaphics are awesome, in a retro sense
EliroX904 1 year ago
@JbCrosell
It was all timing. FF3/6 will never be able to capture new audiences in the sprite graphics mode. But I agree. on the re-make.
gomgeya 1 year ago
@gomgeya I disagree on a remake... if the present day has taught us anything, it's that anything that gets remade now will end up horrible. You, I, and everyone here knows that if capcom made a remake, the first thing they'd do is try and make it more.... modern... Yes boys and girls, it is possible to break something good, trying to fix it when it's fine as it is. As for the sprites... hell, some sprite games back then still stand taller then most HD, OMG THEY ARE SO REAL, 3D graphics now.
JadetheTempest 10 months ago 2
@JbCrosell
for past standards, the graphics were good.
CaptainObvious0000 9 months ago
@CaptainObvious0000 amzing even, I still think they're amazing.
InsanoRider777 8 months ago
@JbCrosell in 3 dimensions :D just like final fantasy 10. that would be epic... just saying
DragonsWrath09 9 months ago
@JbCrosell I second that.
GamingIdiot42Neo 4 months ago
@JbCrosell oh, come on, it's made for SNES, it was pretty good graphics for an SNES game
dapithapon 4 months ago
He comes and goes like the wind, swearing allegiance to no one. Hidden behind his wintry gaze lies a face known to none who live...
DestructorKoopa 2 years ago 72
@DestructorKoopa "The Dog eats strangers."
OnionMan 1 year ago
Is this on a album i can buy?
TheVDRun1988 2 years ago
Now, the theme sounds ninja
Bastik42 2 years ago
@Bastik42 To be honest, I would say its more of a mix of a ninja/cowboy theme
ZoieFalcona 2 years ago
Awesome! I loved this remixed version. The middle of the track has an ominous air about it. It almost gave me the chills. I even like the character artwork you chose for the display. Thanks for posting this
DBarns7 2 years ago
1:32 to 1:48: Badass
The great ninja of all, he just kick the ass of ryu hayabusa.
rafaelluiz18 2 years ago
Sorry but Ryu HAs No Equal not even Joe Musashi (This is coming from a huge FF Fan whose fave game in the series is FF6 and a fan of shadows as Well)
eatkeniii 2 years ago
hmm, I respect your opinion ^^
but Ryu cut's hi's mama throat for a nickel?
lol, that's badass for sure.
rafaelluiz18 2 years ago
true lol. Then again Shadow didnt turn out so heasrtless either did he...
eatkeniii 2 years ago
NOONE Does it better than Ryu not even Shadow!
eatkeniii 2 years ago
god this sounds so nice ot my ears =)
Darksyby 2 years ago
This music reminds me of Diablo.
SlavicDemon 2 years ago 2
You know, My favorite character was Gau, his ability to copy ALL monsters in the game was very cool to me
Zorlion 2 years ago
Well, All monsters in the land you first got him in. Once you left that island place, that was it.
ILuvKonata 2 years ago
The Veldt
VashFanboy1 2 years ago
Gau can't copy all monster in the game... just the Veldt Monsters. There are a lot of monsters on the Veldt, but it's nothing compared to the amount in the whole game.
My favorites are Setzer, Mog, ang Gogo. Fixed Dice, Jump (w/spear), and the ability to use every skill in the game... win.
RoboVoldy 2 years ago
i also remember myself giving megalixir to magic pot in ff7 for hours hours hours and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz all characters final attack to master eccept the last one :P what a geek child life shame to my mom
beamuth 2 years ago
best character is cyan... i dont remember exactly if it was 4 or 8 hit attack but this attack was the strongest of the game ... i remember myself fighting dynosaur in a little forest for hour and hour and hour and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
beamuth 2 years ago
youe right i fought in that forest to . was a good place to build up you guys ex level after countless battles it gave you something and i to used it on cyan......man his attack was bad ass. cant think of the name of the item.....what a good game
milkymigs 2 years ago
Tyranosaurs give you like Imps Armor and the Brachosaurs can give you economizer relics. The other cool place to level up is the desert south of the Southern most town where the Hoover and Cactrots are. Cactrot gave 10,000 gil and 10 MP points.
BearAssassin 2 years ago
Genji Gloves + X-Fight(dunno what item from anymore) + Sabin = everything is dead
HandQfDoom 2 years ago
The offering, in the SNES, and PS1. Master's Scroll in GBA. But yeah, equip that to Setzer with Fixed Dice, and insta kill everything. =D
shadowsaber2 2 years ago
If you waste a genji glove and offering on Sabin you're wasting a good character. Offering + genji glove goes to Locke, Shadow uses throw stocked up on tact stars, and Sabin uses blitz, have Celes heal or use runic sword if your enemies are magic based.
veriden22 2 years ago
Genji glove + offering + impartisans + Gau + Stray Cat rage = win combo.
Ferriswheel31 2 years ago 2
But that deals a ton less damage than Genji Gloves and offering. Even phantom Rush.
OnyonKnight 2 years ago
The game is easy enough with out purposefully breaking it.
veriden22 2 years ago
Yep I'm doing that now. 8 for whatever reasons is weaker than 4. And Dispatch 1 would be his strongest it seems unless you use 'retort' his #2 and wait.
BearAssassin 2 years ago
Third best caracter of the game, first is Tina, second Locke
Volviert 2 years ago 2
hmmmmm
i wouldnt say tina even though she is cool. mine is Locke sabin then shadow :)
Spoc1012 2 years ago
He would slit his mother's fucking neck for a GP... Sounds about right XD!
TheNattak 2 years ago 2
When was Shadow jailed..?
megamantheory 2 years ago
They left a lot unsaid.
There were so many gaps in FF6, and it still turned out to be a great game.
Imagine if they filled in the blanks. :)
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
I let him...die! T_T
Akazu3 2 years ago
you suck!
You never bothered to replay the game to save his ass?
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
therefore, the Ninja portrayal of Shadow's character, i.e. the lack of emotion, or element of darkness fitted the Ninja persona perfectly.
megamantheory 2 years ago
I would agree with you there.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
Locke and Shadow.
Locke and Clyde.
The names just fit together really easily.
And has anyone come up with an explanation for Locke's reasons to go with Celes to infiltrate Vector, the Imperial Capital.
"Someone important to me was jailed by the Empire. I've hated the Empire ever since... I joined the Returners when I realized the
Empire was rotten to the core. I wanted to make a difference."
SOMEONE IMPORTANT=JAILED, not killed, not injured, JAILED.
My theory is; Shadow is Locke's brother
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
I remember Locke saying that and
never really thought who could it be.
TheRingPupil 2 years ago
Shadow's reason for selling his services to the empire are somewhat vague. The rumor that he would slit his momma's throat for a nickle was just a rumor.
He deliberately spread that rumor himself.
*He would* is an obvious assumption and makes people give him the benifit of the doubt..
*He did* would have been either true or slander. Cuz if he did slit his momma's throat for a nickle, he wouldn't be doing business at all.
Do you think he would let someone SLANDER his reputation?
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
Furthermore!
Think about Locke's reasons for not telling who it was that was jailed by the empire?
Maybe he knew Clyde was a thief, and didn't want people to think of him as a thief?
Shadow may have been the reason Locke prefers treasure hunter. Because it sounds more heroic than criminal.
Therefore, he must have been ashamed of this "important person" but still loved him.
Maybe Shadow was like Robin hood, but got caught. 1 million GP's stolen back from the Empire. :) People fear the empire
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
this is in regards to veriden22's comment. your 1A. isnt quite right, although sometimes the drive of a ninja was yes for greed, however. Something most people dont know is that ninjas were in fact samurai, which as u know were very VERY honorable, the reason for the ninja would be like a spec ops member to our military. the lords of the time were simply put warmongers, there for certain tasks needed to be preformed, without fear of compromising there lord.
lorinbilliard 2 years ago
NInjas were typically not Samurai man. If you read about it, you'd know that Ninja were typically made up of the peasant population. They were not born of nobility as the Samurais were. True, some Samurai's practice ninjutsu, however this was not too common. The shogunates would regularly hire the Ninja to carry out unconventional missions that were deemed dishonorable to the Samurai/Bushido way of life.
megamantheory 2 years ago
The entire game was basically the COMMON AND INDEPENDENT PEOPLE vs the EMPIRE, which was composed of Nobles, Aristocrats, Warmongers, and Scientists that wanted to subjugate everyone.
Cid was probably the only scientist and Celes the only General of which defected to the returners. Everyone else was still Imperial...which wanted to subjugate everyone.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
I have not done the research on ninjas myself, but I know that the Ronin were former Samurai.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
I wonder why they threw away their titles.
Maybe they were good people?
I have always hated the nobles and upper classes. Well. Not all the upper class. Primarily the one's that use their power politically and violently in order to subjugate everyone else.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
I think the original Western version is more fitting for reasons already stated. Still, I like this mix. Got a haunting appeal to it...
shinstabber 2 years ago 2
I think the guitar tuning was intentional... it has a dissonant sound to it.
daeghen 2 years ago
I think this mix is more fitting for shadow because like someone said it is less country western and more zen like, but the guitar is out of tune starting at 0:56 which I find incredibly annoying. They need to re-record the guitar, or get a pitch shifting plugin.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
Wonderful.
MDthornton83 2 years ago
this is an awesome remix, sounds quite different. added to my favourites
stezo2k 2 years ago
I never liked Shadow for some reason. Whenever I had to deal with him in the game I was always annoyed and I usually avoided getting him in my party.
gungnir2357 2 years ago
I agree with you, the western sound of the original is BY FAR better, but I believe the mystic sound of this one (even hen flooded by the background sounds) gives its own rightful place.
megamantheory 3 years ago
Well shadow is a ninja, not a country western hero. I never understood why they chose that theme for him.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
The reason (I believe) that Shadow's theme as some qualities of that western twang is because if you know his history, he was a train robber with one of his burglar counterparts. Train robbers have typically been seen as a western symbol, so his theme is actually quite fitting.
megamantheory 2 years ago 2
Yeah I definitely agree.
MilanJ4 2 years ago
Actually, no Shadow is NOT a ninja he is a mercenary it clearly states that the first time you see him in the game. His JOB CLASS is ninja because of his abilities but in FF games JOB CLASS never has any affect on one's personality. And it is as Megamantheory said about train robbers. Also the song indicates lonliness more than thing else which is part of who shadow is because what he had lost in his life and what he has done.
veriden22 2 years ago 2
Also, what kind of eastern person would name their child Clyde? Which is a big western name. So in conclussion, Shadow/Clyde is western based, just because you know ninja arts does not make you from the east...in the famous words of Tyler Durden: "Sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken."
veriden22 2 years ago
Megamantheory is probably right that the train robbing aspect of his backstory was the reason for the western-style theme. They probably named him Clyde after Bonnie and Clyde. But the game does refer to him as a ninja and he definitely looks like one, so I still think they should have made it more ninja/zen like.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
Alright, take this in a different perspective.
1A.) Ninjas were not known of Zen they were assassins with out honor to be seen but worked for the greed of Lords
1B.) Mercs also work for money to appease the greed in themselves by appeasing the greed in their employers, which is the same thing as 1A.
2.) Dressing like a ninja does not make you a ninja, he wears what he does to hide his identity and also to optimize his chances of remaining unseen in dark areas. Have the right tools for the job
veriden22 2 years ago
Well, in my opinion dressing like a ninja does make you a ninja. Besides, the game calls him a ninja. Copy and paste this in the YouTube search:
Final Fantasy III (6) Story - Part 7
and look at 0:25. It says ninja right there.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
So if I was to don a army beret I'd instantly be part of the green berets just because I dress like one?
jewmaster111 2 years ago
If there was some RPG character that looked like a Green Beret, I would expect him to have a military-style theme.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
Because he is a country western character?
His name is Clyde, he used to rob trains, he has a Doberman, he's a merc, he doesn't at all have any ninja qualities except his attire.
jewmaster111 2 years ago
Except the most important quality which you forgot, his class. Locke is a thief. Shadow is a ninja.
IfOUGHTpIRANHAz 2 years ago
AHEM!
Locke is not a thief.
He is a Treasure Hunter.
MurlocShaman14 2 years ago 5
lol...good one.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
Hell yeah.
SoulCalibrator 2 years ago
Correction
He is a Travel Worn Adventurer searching the world over, for relics of the past.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
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MurlocShaman14 2 years ago
Yes he does. He throws shurikens, he's secretive, and he uses swords. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any western outlaw ever robbed a train with a Katana blade and a pouch of ninja stars.
goodvibrato 2 years ago 2
Touche
ElDoucho 2 years ago
Shadow was not a Ninja during his time as a train robber. He was not even known as Shadow. If anything, it would probably be more appropriate to label him as a thief or a brigand.
megamantheory 2 years ago
You're right, I was just being fecicious.
goodvibrato 2 years ago
technically he WAS called shadow. that was the group name he and Baram used.
Strongbad717 2 years ago
Strongbad, who argued that he wasn't called Shadow?
megamantheory 2 years ago
you. "He was not even known as Shadow."
Strongbad717 2 years ago
I was referring to him personally. I'm not even sure what my original comment was in reference to, but I am aware of the name "Shadow" that Clyde and Baram had used for their team.
megamantheory 2 years ago
He never used Katana's.
Only Dirks.
the Kodachi is basically a Dirk. And that was the only Japanese blade he ever used.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
He almost only used Ninja Swords, or wakazachi's. Sasuke's Blade, Oborozuki, these are all crossed over Ninja swords from Final Fantasy.
Cyan uses Katana's.
GarlandFraser 2 years ago
I played the original.
None of those names were ever used for Shadow's weapons.
In the original, Cyan's weapon limit was to the Knife*.
I know what I am talking about.
Yes, I would call it a Katana, but seriously, that's not what the original game says. :)
It's obvious that I don't really like the FF6 Advanced version. Yes, there were some good changes, but overall, they turned it into a japanophilia game.
And we all know that FF isn't about Japan cramming it's culture down people's throats.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
I'm sorry for your retardedness then, but you would really trick yourself into believing that Cyan was fighting with KNIVES the whole time? He was obviously a Samurai, and he obviously used Katana, and even fans of the original could see that something was totally fucked up in the translation. I'm also sorry for you hating the Advanced version, simply because the nation that originally MADE the game, have like Two characters, which only vaguely refference their culture through their weapons.
GarlandFraser 2 years ago
HerrQuixota 2 years ago 3
Well, it's a difference of opinion then!
Personally I believed the Advanced remake made the game richer for the experience.
"He'd kill his best friend for the right price..." sounds more 'Edgar' to me than the other line.
GarlandFraser 2 years ago