If Bujinkan Ninpo was a serious system nobody of them would have 15 dans.But this happens beacuse the Grandmaster is not serious.The proof is exactly to this video. "The one who is openminded,understands.."
why the hell are white people doing ninjitsu in japan! ninjas are fucking farmers and their myths ran out of control and clearly only westerners believe the myths
"why the hell are white people doing ninjitsu in japan!"
you spelled it wrong.
"ninjas" the plural of ninja, is NINJA!
"are fucking farmers and their myths ran out of control and clearly only westerners believe the myths"
the assertion that all shinobi are farmers is an unfounded one, nor does it explain the spread of NINJUTSU in most of japan, nor the way it is structured within the other schools of samurai bujutsu that have been preserved.
@Arteanor their weapons are farming tools, almost every single one of them! schools of different skills of fighting die out and a hybrid usually evolves like jigoro kano's judo he unified many different techniques of the out of jiujitsu so what makes ninjitsu different (i could care less about spelling) and they are not soldiers in no way do they work for a state or fight battles
"their weapons are farming tools, almost every single one of them!"
uh, whose lies have you bought ?
" schools of different skills of fighting" ninjutsu is not about fighting.
"he unified many different techniques of the out of jiujitsu so what makes ninjitsu different (i could care less about "
ninjUtsu isn't a martial art. it is the set of skills taught to a SOLDIER, to enable them to better collect and control onformation, sabotage, infiltration...
" but i think youl make it more clear if you said assassin or scout instead of soldier"
uh, actually. since ninjutsu was taught to SOLDIERS to make them intelligence operatives.
since ASSASSIN is ONLY publicized in FOREIGN FAKE histories ( based on legends and comics.. lol seriously) ... to the point you cannot even name someone ASSASSINATED BY SHINOBI!
and since scout's were soldiers.... my ORIGINAL post still has it right... no corrections needed.
LOL at ReighOfShadow...who in the hell is walking around with swords these days? How many for the past 100 years ? Funny how Doug did horribly at the one modern aspect of fighting. He was absolutely helpless.
I wonder how much it cost that guy to stick with Bujinkan until fucking 18th dan. It had to be thousands of dollars at least. I wonder if he had some kind of moment of reflection after being taken down so easily.
@nachtfuchs123 There are way better (and cheaper) places to learn fencing than there. You don't think it's embarrassing that a 15th Dan taught by Hatsumi was completely owned when he tried to take it bare handed?
listen say what you will, but don't bring the cash issue into it. At most MMA schools these days (in big cities) your looking at $3000.00 a year (minimum). It takes usually 10 years to get BB in BJJ. So that's $30,000.00! But yes, BJJ is kick ass. But also really, really expensive.
@tacitusames What ridiculous MMA gyms are in your area? The average rate around here is $100 a month (usually less), and even that is less than half of the cost you're claiming.
@weebles777 Neither of those schools are legitimate. There are no proven surviving schools of ninjutsu. And even if they were, they aren't useful in contemporary society. That is the cold and bitter truth.
@bishuptutu4 I agree mate they're to slow and only using swords which i know is a style but think, your not always gonna have a samurai sword with you especially not in the 21st century....to me this is more like fencing with samurai swords...not real ninjitsu
It only looks slow to you, because they're actually making killing blows. Not like most fencing or sparring arts were they're going for quick little taps to score points. The way they were fighting was to deliver a quick and killing blow to end the fight. Not sit there and pit pat with the other guy and doing little blows that wouldn't even injure someone wearing armor. And barely injure someone not wearing armor.
@BlackShinobiShozoku I know mate...its just well are you aways gonna carry around a samurai sword with you? i mean dont get me wrong it would cool as hell to get to....i mean without getting looks from the cops or anything i mean YES!!! it would be cool as hell but unfortunately we cant.....and hey do you know anymore about ninjutsu i would really like to learn....
@Tonemysterme They are well aware of that. Same with practicing latin. There's no use for it in today society. Ninjutsu is from the Pre-Meiji era, so in legit Ninjutsu schools you will be learning feudal Japanese weapons and combat. So if you don't want to learn how to use a sword, I wouldn't recommend taking Ninjutsu. Also if you don't want to be involved in Feudal Japanese culture and philosophy. I wouldn't do it either. But if you do. Seek Genbukan, Bujinkan, and Jinenkan schools.
@BlackShinobiShozoku okay okay i see mate well what about just your reguar self defense something with great sped and reflex. Not that tykwando shit (im sorry if i misspelled that) i mean that stuff is everywhere i mean like just something to disarm any enemy not to bring death or anything like that just enough pain so that they would be like "damn not messing with him again" and like i said just something quick and fast....what would you recomend?
@BlackShinobiShozoku wow...man....i just looked up some vids on it....it looks very nice and a nice technique thank you so much for the help...wait one more thing...do you know of any place in the U.S.A that teaches it?
@Tonemysterme You'll have to look up Krav Maga classes closes to you. If you cannot find one in the distance you are willing to travel. You might have to find a martial art that is taught closer to you in a distance you're willing to travel.
@tekija1 oh im sorry. i dont remember saying that it was new or unique. i think what i said was none of your business so you go bother someone else right now.
@Creationsofmyown How about shutting your big yap? You and your legitimate Fujita Seiko. All you do is shout here continuously about what is true and what is not. In almost every video related to ninja rhis or ninja that. I once asked for sources in a sword video where you shouted about straight and curved blades, but you still havent ansvered. This time, lets see some sources for those claims and lets start from Fujita. So he was last ninja. Where can I confirm this?
@Creationsofmyown Well... How long did Fujita train with his grandfather? Like 2 years as a kid? How do you know he was even taught Koga ryu back then? Maybe his grandfather tried to make him interested. Or maybe because he said so or believed so? Autehntication of third party makes it truth? How the hell would they know what things they trained in Koga ryu anyway? It wasnt open for everyone.
8 years. werent you pretending to be knowledgeable about this stuff?
i know he inherited KOKA because he has the paperwork to prove it... along with the demonstration he provided to the NKS... a demo of REAL ninjutsu, not a martial art pretending...
independent authentication by an unbiased expert authority is about as close as you can get tp proving TRUTH.
we know what ninjutsu is from the historical documents recovered...
@Creationsofmyown KOKA! Yeah right. Get some kokaine man. How many koga ryu ninjutsu techniques those bansenshukai, ninpiden and shoninki describe? Where can I see some pictures? And I didnt claim "Everything in papers was destroyed." I wrote MAJORITY was. But you are one ignorant fuck who likes to twist everything and yell about truth. Where does it say that Fujita trained 8 years with his grandfather anyway? Maybe it was wrote on the surface of moon or something, but provide real sources now.
@Creationsofmyown Who made those scrolls, Fujita? He has stated himself that his grandfather burned majority of scrolls and everything written in papers, BEFORE Fujita started training with him.
those scrolls were made previous to fujita shintazaemon.
since the scrolls you say were burned are sitting in the iga museum.... we can soundly dismiss your claim that "everything in papers" has not been destroyed...
there were some that fujita chose to destroy but that is his prerogative... he didnt have to share it at all...
are you done pretending that fujita's authenticity is in question? it doesnt change that your own claims, how we started this, STILL have NO EVIDENCE
@Creationsofmyown And no, you are not source enough for these. You have too many creations of your own in these things. They also say that Fujita cut a piece from his leg and boiled it to scare Yakuza. Maybe that was ninjutsu too, but in my country, we call it just stupid.
and you said "grandfather burned majority of scrolls and everything written in papers,"
you DID say EVERYTHING in papers... which is blatantly false, as the papers are sitting in the iga museum.
and i never said my word would be source enough... and ya thats the story... imagine to strength of will... insane, but it let him walk away from it.. so if getting out alive is stupid in your country... the list of sources will follow.
@Creationsofmyown "you DID say EVERYTHING in papers... " Read again, here: "He has stated himself that his grandfather burned majority of scrolls and everything written in papers, BEFORE Fujita started training with him." It says MAJORITY of scrolls and everything written in papers. Learn to read. I dont know what all sorts of writings, scrawlings and scribbles he had, but MAJORITY of all that was gone loooong before Fujita learned what just MAY BE koga. So where did you get that 8 years?
@Creationsofmyown The Bugeicho (11/1963) editor Kiyoshi Watatani states that Hatsumi's ideas and lineage are only his ideas and have no proof to support them,[8] but later in the year independent history scholar and author Ryutaro Koyama published his first book on the Togakure ryu entitled Kore wa ninjutsu da! Koyama followed up the following year with an expanded book called Shinsetsu Nihon ninja retsuden, and martial arts authority Yumio Nawa also examined and confirmed the
your claims are uncited on wiki... that may tell you something....
and regardless... hatsumi claims to have scrolls... these have never been authenticated... nobody with the authority to judge them has ever done so...
sure hatsumi will let rank amateurs that have already shelled out thousands to him take a peak... but historians? koryu societies? none have been permitted.
@Creationsofmyown Togakure ryu's historical status in his 1972 book Ninjutsu no kenkyu[9] (Ninchibo Shuppansha). Watatani, editor of the Bugeicho who had said that there was no proof to Hatsumi's claims in 1963 then reverses himself and in his work the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten 1978 from then on treats the Togakure ryu as a historical art.
stupid westerners dishing out loads of cash to get their meaningless ''dans'' you can have all the dans in the world but you still got schooled by a real fighter all these comments 'they were going easy on them'' bullshit why were they hitting them in the face then if they were really masters they could of controlled the fight alot better rather than being pun on their ass like rag dolls and flailing their foam swords around hatsumi is a brilliant con artist! he must be loaded from these fools
"These two white ninjas couldn't beat the two white MMA fighters?! Ha! I bet a 5'2 tall japanese dude could beat them."
No, he probably couldn't. MMA fighters are top trained and have expert reflexes, and they have superior physique to most random people who decide to go into jujitzu training. Plus they are white, and white people are stronger and dominate REAL fighting sports today. Put that in your doju and smoke it.
That is why they will loose, because that 5'2 japanese dude will have perfected his technique much more then they for the simple reasen that he is smaller. Just being bigger does not mean you will win, it only means you will fall harder when you loose.
Physique doesn't have to do with the skill of fighting, but the health and finesse that correlates with the capabilities they can phyiscally do with their bodies. And you said that white people are stronger and dominate in fighting sports...well can you tell me how many white people are in MMA as compared to the rest of the MMA population? MMA has no philosophy, thats why there are more fighters that only commit to fighting in a ring with rules.
hey guys i got this question that i ask everyone on net. i am a karate goju-ryu fighter and when im black belt i want to do another martial art and im rly stuck between ninjitsu and shaolin kung-fu and i want all the ppl that see this message to asnwer me PLZ!!!! but also when u write down the martial art u chose plz write y u chose it. plz answer me and thx
Yeah I really wasn't expecting a reply to my comment. I did not ask for a history lesson. Somene asked which way to go, ninjutsu or shaolin, and I gave my reccomendation. I don't care about your silly governments or your classifications.
yes people who are quick to accept claims from people like hatsumi are usually the ones who choose to remain ignorant of history....
not that there is anything wrong with that... but if you arent willing to argue its history then you cant very well argue it in a historical category, especially when (as a martial art) the bujinkan is quite clearly nothing like what we know ninjutsu to be....
you are the one with the classifications here, i was just helping you out of a mistake you made...
What the hell? Bujinkan? Hatsumi? Some youtuber asked a simple queston in which I gave my opinion. Then you make a random reply to my comment, which was directed at somebody else, about bujikan and hatsumi and mistakes in classifications. Are you trolling?
uh if you dont understand the basic terminology used in my comments ( all of which are directed at you), then you have NO place offering advide to anyone.
you profess that you should only learn ninjutsu if your going to kill someone, but how does that makes any sense? ninjutsu isnt a martial art.... its the art of sitting undetected for 3 days,,,
if your going to give advice, try to not tell people to study an art that has been dead for 40 years,
obviously you dont get it. i dont care. not once did i say ninjutsu was a martial art. furthermore this is youtube and i can write whatever i want in my comments. if you think you can give him better, more professional advice go right ahead. but stfu and stop talking to me!!!
DENSHO, and LEGITIMATE VERIFIABLE( which really is easy) LINEAGE.
the other major proof is that he demonstrated working knowledge of the ninjutsu we know from the historical record... he also did so in the 20's decades before the ninja-craze...
DENSHO, and LEGITIMATE VERIFIABLE( which really is easy) LINEAGE.
the other major proof is that he demonstrated working knowledge of the ninjutsu we know from the historical record... he also did so in the 20's decades before the ninja-craze...
The word "Shaolin" means "little woods" or "little forest." The Shalon Temple was named that just because of its location. And Shaolin martial arts were called Chuan-Fa originally. The term Kung Fu wasn't coined until much later.
oss friend. i am also a goju ryu martial artist. if i had to choose another art to study it would be fujian white crane kung fu because thats where goju came from. but my advice is dont stop training in goju once you attain black belt. thats when your training truly begins. trust me on that one. you have alot to learn always. and in my opinion goju is one of the most versatile arts out there.
@BeedonProductions Hi, maybe I'm a little late for your question, but I'll answer anyway. I dont trust this common fashion of "this is better, this is bad" or the "ultimate MA" stuffs, I believe any MA could make you stronger, and none could work if you dont make it working. Besides, you should do what you think suits for you, what you like. If you like Goju Ryu, you probably should like Tae Kwon Do, or Shaolin. Think what you want, what you really like, not what is "cool", and try. Good Luck.
Pretty much all of these end up in Aiuchi. Not easy to do this and in fairness the beginners did pretty well and Bill won 2-1. Remember we are talking 10 & 15 dan with how many years training. Would have been interesting to see the Japanese shihan.
This two men of the bujinkan are 10 or 15 DAN??unbelievable!they can't do anything good technique with two mens beginers,no its soo very ashamed and ridiculous.please let's have serious and real training!!forget your 15 dan belt!
@NINJUTSUJAPAN they have to let the two beginners win a little. it's TV you know. they can't be serious otherwise they would have REAL injuries. broken bones for example
The usual rumour going about cyberspace is that sometime in the late 1960's/early 1970's, Mr. Hatsumi applied and was rejected, since Takamatsu sensei had reproduced most of the densho. Another version is that he didn't want the densho to be defaced by scientists for the carbon 14 tests, so he withdrew his application. Rumours are rumours though, you can never learn the truth unless you hear it from the horses mouth. That being Mr. Hatsumi himself & the members of the Kyokai who interviewed him.
ninja's were farmers who took up the art to defend themselves, not ex samurai's. Once you became a samurai u didnt just wake up one day and say i quit, you were devoted to your master for life
Sorry, but they were not "glorified ancient street gangs." In fact, the very first ninja were ex-samurai. And please refrain from smart-ass comments like the one at the end of your reply, they don't make you sound very knowledgable.
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and here i thought my personal insults were an excellent display of knowledge
my point, is that there was no such thing as 'the ninja way', there was no standard skill set, no organization and frankly no good records about how they trained or operated. so for you to say the buj is great because the ninjas were so successful is silly. do you picture ninja union meetings where they laid out specific tactics and policies all to preserved in the scrolls that dictate modern training?
1. Personal insults are not a display of knowledge, but of ignorance of the martial way. 2. You're assuming that Bujinkan is the only school of ninjutsu out there. 3. People like you are the martial-arts equivalent of flat-earthers who believe Apollo 11 never landed on the moon, or creationists who say evolution is a myth. No matter what data is thrown your way, you'll say it is insubstantial. Your mind has already been made up, although I doubt you've faced an artist of the style you criticize.
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1. how are personal insults not a display of knowledge? 2. which ninja academy do you attend and what is their connection with the successful ancient ninjas who prove the arts worth? 3. i doubt very many 'flat-earthers' are aware of the apollo missions. im actually quite interested in evolution.
and i think you said something about data? what are the data to which you refer. the proper data could change my mind, but i don't recall any. are you sure you meant 'data', not just 'information'?
I was wondering the same thing! In Korean arts, we have to allow for an increasing number if years between Dan levels. (1 yrs. from 1st to 2nd Dan, 2 yrs. from 2nd the 3rd Dan, etc.) They must do it completely different to get to those high numbers.
and you DO need to be athletic to strike someones throat because you actually have to hit it before they hit you. something you probably can't do with buj training, since chances are the sparring is sparse and unrealistic
and as far as the knee strikes go, you've got no idea what you are talking about. if you think destroying the knee joint of an attacker is simple and not physically demanding your obviously not on level
do you study a more popular system with a chain of locations? is this a smaller operation? what is the background of this specific ninjutsu you study, which you claim is effective because of what might happen when you go super deadly
I learned from my uncle who has various belts in different styles including ninjutsu. Through him I learned ninjutsu, and through studying I learned more about ninjutsu. Ninjutsu isn't what a lot of people think it is or actually make it out to be. It's a way of survival and a tradition. Not a systematic art that requires specific lineage.
And I realize that unlike what I see bujinkan doing, I need actual sparring practice. And that's what I do against other martial artist.
so i think we can come to an agreement about a few things. you claim ninjutsu works, especially in armed combat, and you offer steve jennum as evidence for this. as you explained, no other evidence can be provided because you don't typically carry a camera.
i criticize ninjutsu because there are 100's of videos of unrealistic ninjutsu training and no evidence that it works, aside from steve jennum of course
im still wondering, what specifically do you study, if not bujinkan ninjutsu?
Yeah I criticize them too. Because they don't know what it's like to actually fight. There's things you learn about fighting by actually being in a fight. They worry more about religious and politics of who has ancient lineage vs actual effective martial arts that works. That's why these videos are under my favs. watch?v=jCbcaLpmeaA
watch?v=0OuU8eIis0E
There's things you can only learn by fighting about fighting. Not by someone holding their arm out without retraction.
Nijutsu's effectiveness can be attested to by the fact that for hundreds of years they served the same function that Navy Seals and Delta Force serve today, only they had no modern technology to assist them.
jesus, again with the steve jennum thing. its one fight, how does one fight prove anything about ninjutsu. there was nothing distinctly ninjutsu about the way jennum fought.
we understand your point, its just not enough to justify the conclusion you keep supporting. unarmed ninjutsu still sucks, even though jennum won that particular fight.
If it sucks, he wouldn't of won. And that's just one Ninjutsu artist. There could be better ones out there, but most ninjutsu artist don't have the mindset of being a Cage Fighter. Because if you want to learn to go toe to toe. You should get into a martial arts that does that. Ninjutsu isn't about going toe to toe in a cage. The only reason why I spar in cages. Is to see how effective my unarmed combat is, not to make a career out of MMA.
if ninjutsu has any merit as a weapons system, where has it proven effective in this respect? do you really think a ninjutsu practitioner would stand a chance with weapons against a decent fencer? kendo? dog brothers?
what is your specific art shinobi? i ask to understand where you are coming from
Well because ninjutsu artist don't have to win going toe to toe with a fencer, kendo practitioner, or a dog brother MA.
As you even saw in this video. It would be a barrage of shuriken or perhaps a black egg(Metsubushi). And then kill while they're disgruntled.
In other words..... in Ninjutsu you practice MANY different skills not just weapons and unarmed combat either. But it's an art of survival. And this has shown itself all the time. Throughout wars.
If Bujinkan Ninpo was a serious system nobody of them would have 15 dans.But this happens beacuse the Grandmaster is not serious.The proof is exactly to this video. "The one who is openminded,understands.."
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vividdevalentine16 3 months ago
Press 8 to see the 15th dan black belt get owned when he tryed empty hand ninjitsu
ThePagfam 3 months ago
Doug is badass
KayDawg16 9 months ago
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norifuu4649 11 months ago
It's Kenjutsu.
Steilhandgranate 11 months ago
why the hell are white people doing ninjitsu in japan! ninjas are fucking farmers and their myths ran out of control and clearly only westerners believe the myths
chilidog1001 1 year ago
@chilidog1001
"why the hell are white people doing ninjitsu in japan!"
you spelled it wrong.
"ninjas" the plural of ninja, is NINJA!
"are fucking farmers and their myths ran out of control and clearly only westerners believe the myths"
the assertion that all shinobi are farmers is an unfounded one, nor does it explain the spread of NINJUTSU in most of japan, nor the way it is structured within the other schools of samurai bujutsu that have been preserved.
soldier +ninjutsu = shinobi.
Arteanor 10 months ago
@Arteanor their weapons are farming tools, almost every single one of them! schools of different skills of fighting die out and a hybrid usually evolves like jigoro kano's judo he unified many different techniques of the out of jiujitsu so what makes ninjitsu different (i could care less about spelling) and they are not soldiers in no way do they work for a state or fight battles
chilidog1001 10 months ago
@chilidog1001
"their weapons are farming tools, almost every single one of them!"
uh, whose lies have you bought ?
" schools of different skills of fighting" ninjutsu is not about fighting.
"he unified many different techniques of the out of jiujitsu so what makes ninjitsu different (i could care less about "
ninjUtsu isn't a martial art. it is the set of skills taught to a SOLDIER, to enable them to better collect and control onformation, sabotage, infiltration...
samurai used it first....
Arteanor 10 months ago
@Arteanor youre right but i think youl make it more clear if you said assassin or scout instead of soldier
l3054 4 months ago
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@l3054
"youre right"
of course i am.
" but i think youl make it more clear if you said assassin or scout instead of soldier"
uh, actually. since ninjutsu was taught to SOLDIERS to make them intelligence operatives.
since ASSASSIN is ONLY publicized in FOREIGN FAKE histories ( based on legends and comics.. lol seriously) ... to the point you cannot even name someone ASSASSINATED BY SHINOBI!
and since scout's were soldiers.... my ORIGINAL post still has it right... no corrections needed.
Arteanor 4 months ago
@chilidog1001
ah i get it...
you think ninjutsu magically sprouted fully formed in iga and koka???
or are you buying one of the versions of the hatsumi story??
you really ought to go and start at the beginning of the ninjutsu videos by TSOAS2008 ... easier than me typing in increments...
Arteanor 10 months ago
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YOU BUMPED INTO ME. NOW YOU DIE.
stealthbeast 1 year ago
This isn't ninjutsu. It's just really bad kendo.
glorbax 1 year ago 13
@glorbax ehmm yeah this is not ninjutsu its kenjutsu and now i think is taijutsu with ken..... :)
leon1998 10 months ago
I'm pretty sure Doug would kick your Kendo ass.
CDNCRN 6 months ago
Kendo is bad in it's self
It's sport. No 45 degree steps, no evasion, just smack in a straight line, you fucking idiot.
CDNCRN 6 months ago
@glorbax This is ninjutsu not kendo
ZZaiBoT2011 4 months ago
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actually this is NOT ninjutsu....
there is NO EVIDENCE to support the idea that ninjutsu includes any sort of martial arts component...
there ARE however fakes of every sort... and they ALL say it's a martial art, so it has become a easy way to spot a fake....
Arteanor 4 months ago
LOL at ReighOfShadow...who in the hell is walking around with swords these days? How many for the past 100 years ? Funny how Doug did horribly at the one modern aspect of fighting. He was absolutely helpless.
popasmuerf 1 year ago
I wonder how much it cost that guy to stick with Bujinkan until fucking 18th dan. It had to be thousands of dollars at least. I wonder if he had some kind of moment of reflection after being taken down so easily.
wutduuwnt 1 year ago
@wutduuwnt if they used real swords, i know, who is dead after 5 seconds haha.
nachtfuchs123 1 year ago
@nachtfuchs123 There are way better (and cheaper) places to learn fencing than there. You don't think it's embarrassing that a 15th Dan taught by Hatsumi was completely owned when he tried to take it bare handed?
wutduuwnt 1 year ago
@wutduuwnt That WAS pretty funny!
weebles777 1 year ago
@wutduuwnt
listen say what you will, but don't bring the cash issue into it. At most MMA schools these days (in big cities) your looking at $3000.00 a year (minimum). It takes usually 10 years to get BB in BJJ. So that's $30,000.00! But yes, BJJ is kick ass. But also really, really expensive.
tacitusames 3 months ago
@tacitusames What ridiculous MMA gyms are in your area? The average rate around here is $100 a month (usually less), and even that is less than half of the cost you're claiming.
wutduuwnt 3 months ago
@wutduuwnt Literally every gym in this city is at least $200.00 a month. There is a total of 5 gyms. Some are more like 300.
tacitusames 3 months ago
@tacitusames That sounds really overpriced unless they're offering some serious pro-level training.
wutduuwnt 3 months ago
EM-BARE-ASSED!!
whatsgoingon07 1 year ago 10
Put these losers against a kendoka and you'll see how technical they are.
deimos2k 1 year ago 2
taijutsu is not their speciality. but weapons are ok
ninjutsuHH 1 year ago
do they still teach ninjutsu or no?
DarkBlaze1000 1 year ago
@DarkBlaze1000
Yes they do.
rencrow 1 year ago
@DarkBlaze1000 Ninjutsu is still taught. There are a few small dojo's in my area. Bujinkan "Togakure Ryu." I learned a lot, but prefer Koga Ryu.
weebles777 1 year ago
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@weebles777
"Ninjutsu is still taught." you are going to need to provide some proof for this claim...
"There are a few small dojo's in my area."
unless it is an area of japan i am uninclined to believe you, less so because you say several... when japanese have never heard of them...
"Bujinkan "Togakure Ryu."
is not ninjutsu,. its just a mishmash of martial arts.
"I learned a lot, but prefer Koga Ryu."
which died with fujita seiko... get a clue...
Arteanor 1 year ago 2
@weebles777 Neither of those schools are legitimate. There are no proven surviving schools of ninjutsu. And even if they were, they aren't useful in contemporary society. That is the cold and bitter truth.
glorbax 1 year ago
@glorbax while that may be somewhat true, the skills I learned are quite useful in breaking up bar-fights. So I can't really agree with you there...
weebles777 11 months ago
DOUG WILSON
NINJA MASTER HURRRR HURR
4nj00 1 year ago
LARPers are only cool when there dressed like KISS
itscrazycock 1 year ago
Doug is really technical and quick.
faddy161285 1 year ago
Are they using fukuro shinais or what?
Chawo 1 year ago
ive taken ninjitsu this shit is not ninjitsu its childish
bishuptutu4 1 year ago
@bishuptutu4 I agree mate they're to slow and only using swords which i know is a style but think, your not always gonna have a samurai sword with you especially not in the 21st century....to me this is more like fencing with samurai swords...not real ninjitsu
Tonemysterme 1 year ago
@Tonemysterme
Ninjutsu is from Samurai.
You're obviously not qualified to comment on Ninjutsu.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@Tonemysterme
It only looks slow to you, because they're actually making killing blows. Not like most fencing or sparring arts were they're going for quick little taps to score points. The way they were fighting was to deliver a quick and killing blow to end the fight. Not sit there and pit pat with the other guy and doing little blows that wouldn't even injure someone wearing armor. And barely injure someone not wearing armor.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku I know mate...its just well are you aways gonna carry around a samurai sword with you? i mean dont get me wrong it would cool as hell to get to....i mean without getting looks from the cops or anything i mean YES!!! it would be cool as hell but unfortunately we cant.....and hey do you know anymore about ninjutsu i would really like to learn....
Tonemysterme 1 year ago
@Tonemysterme They are well aware of that. Same with practicing latin. There's no use for it in today society. Ninjutsu is from the Pre-Meiji era, so in legit Ninjutsu schools you will be learning feudal Japanese weapons and combat. So if you don't want to learn how to use a sword, I wouldn't recommend taking Ninjutsu. Also if you don't want to be involved in Feudal Japanese culture and philosophy. I wouldn't do it either. But if you do. Seek Genbukan, Bujinkan, and Jinenkan schools.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku okay okay i see mate well what about just your reguar self defense something with great sped and reflex. Not that tykwando shit (im sorry if i misspelled that) i mean that stuff is everywhere i mean like just something to disarm any enemy not to bring death or anything like that just enough pain so that they would be like "damn not messing with him again" and like i said just something quick and fast....what would you recomend?
Tonemysterme 1 year ago
@Tonemysterme
Try Krav Maga.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku wow...man....i just looked up some vids on it....it looks very nice and a nice technique thank you so much for the help...wait one more thing...do you know of any place in the U.S.A that teaches it?
Tonemysterme 1 year ago
@Tonemysterme You'll have to look up Krav Maga classes closes to you. If you cannot find one in the distance you are willing to travel. You might have to find a martial art that is taught closer to you in a distance you're willing to travel.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku or learn tennis its better than kravmaga
ninjutsuHH 1 year ago
@bishuptutu4
Actually it's spelled Ninjutsu... not Ninjitsu. That alone shows me that you have not taken any legit Ninjutsu classes.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@bishuptutu4 "Ninjitsu" is a spelling error, and means "fruit of stealth" which I hear is quite yummy :-)
weebles777 11 months ago
That empty hand ninjutsu was a fail.
Theyellowma 1 year ago
@Theyellowma
thats because it ISNT ninjutsu... which is because ninjutsu ISNT a martial art...
not that the school is totally bullshit... just the way they take dives to make hatsumi look good.... look untouchable.
slapupchrist has a great vid on it,.
Arteanor 1 year ago
I agree with you if you meant that ninjutsu doesn't exist. It's just made-up fairy tale bullshit.
Theyellowma 1 year ago
@Theyellowma
i would have to DISAGREE with "ninjutsu doesn't exist. It's just made-up fairy tale bullshit"
you should check out the Shinobi Soldiers series here on YT.
its based off of the scrolls we have.
since we have mention of shinobi in 8th century, they CLEARLY existed.
Arteanor 1 year ago
Lol, sounds like fairy tale bullshit to me.
Theyellowma 1 year ago
@Theyellowma
i recommend you READ the scrolls in question then.
discover for yourself.
however, in the mean time, believing you know better than historians is dangerous unless your ok looking foolish later...
i disagree with the genbukan's claims to ninjutsu, BUT they do have nearly complete translations of 3 scrolls you should really see over at ninpo org
bansenshukai, ninpiden, shoninki.
if you have some evidence that also accounts for these and other records i would love to see.
Arteanor 1 year ago
@Theyellowma
HAHAHAHA i agree the people in this video watch a lot of naruto
they need guns lol : )))
StopSexualUrges 1 year ago
@StopSexualUrges
The people in this video are legit Ninjutsu practitioenrs under the Takamatsu-den lineage.
The only ones watching Naruto are you.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@Theyellowma
Actually Ninjutsu does exist historically and is still practiced today.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
wow those Dan's were working as hard at they could too.
smirkdancer 1 year ago
This ninjutsu stuff is so lame, what kinds of losers would ever practice this crap?
jon0g 1 year ago
@jon0g i bet u be gettin ur ass beat to huh???
jevell6 1 year ago
@jevell6 LOL An 18th dan or w.e. these clowns are couldn't even beat up on kindergarden kids. These guys are losers.
jon0g 1 year ago
These guys look kind of clumsy.
jakeizlove 1 year ago
When I heard 15th dan, I was like "This guy is FUCKED."
ekoukano 1 year ago
@ekoukano 16th is the last one, right?
sniper11235 1 year ago
@sniper11235 Having 15 dan-gradings in art is nothing new or unique.
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1 oh im sorry. i dont remember saying that it was new or unique. i think what i said was none of your business so you go bother someone else right now.
sniper11235 1 year ago
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tekija1 1 year ago
@sniper11235 Having 15 dan-gradings in art is nothing new or unique.
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1 "Having 15 dan-gradings in art is nothing new or unique."
uh,,, FUCK YA IT IS.... new atleast...
only the gendai budo ryu use the kyu/dan system... the first being judo...
kano is the first to have adapted the system to budo, before that dan/kyu was used in the game of go.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown How about shutting your big yap? You and your legitimate Fujita Seiko. All you do is shout here continuously about what is true and what is not. In almost every video related to ninja rhis or ninja that. I once asked for sources in a sword video where you shouted about straight and curved blades, but you still havent ansvered. This time, lets see some sources for those claims and lets start from Fujita. So he was last ninja. Where can I confirm this?
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
you have never asked me for sources that i have failed to provide...
want to confirm fujita? write up the Nihon kobudo shinkokai. he was authenticated by them... he also was a trustee.
but of course, if you knew anything about ninjutsu you would know these things..
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Well... How long did Fujita train with his grandfather? Like 2 years as a kid? How do you know he was even taught Koga ryu back then? Maybe his grandfather tried to make him interested. Or maybe because he said so or believed so? Autehntication of third party makes it truth? How the hell would they know what things they trained in Koga ryu anyway? It wasnt open for everyone.
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
8 years. werent you pretending to be knowledgeable about this stuff?
i know he inherited KOKA because he has the paperwork to prove it... along with the demonstration he provided to the NKS... a demo of REAL ninjutsu, not a martial art pretending...
independent authentication by an unbiased expert authority is about as close as you can get tp proving TRUTH.
we know what ninjutsu is from the historical documents recovered...
bansenshukai, ninpiden, shoninki..
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown KOKA! Yeah right. Get some kokaine man. How many koga ryu ninjutsu techniques those bansenshukai, ninpiden and shoninki describe? Where can I see some pictures? And I didnt claim "Everything in papers was destroyed." I wrote MAJORITY was. But you are one ignorant fuck who likes to twist everything and yell about truth. Where does it say that Fujita trained 8 years with his grandfather anyway? Maybe it was wrote on the surface of moon or something, but provide real sources now.
tekija1 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Who made those scrolls, Fujita? He has stated himself that his grandfather burned majority of scrolls and everything written in papers, BEFORE Fujita started training with him.
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
those scrolls were made previous to fujita shintazaemon.
since the scrolls you say were burned are sitting in the iga museum.... we can soundly dismiss your claim that "everything in papers" has not been destroyed...
there were some that fujita chose to destroy but that is his prerogative... he didnt have to share it at all...
are you done pretending that fujita's authenticity is in question? it doesnt change that your own claims, how we started this, STILL have NO EVIDENCE
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown And no, you are not source enough for these. You have too many creations of your own in these things. They also say that Fujita cut a piece from his leg and boiled it to scare Yakuza. Maybe that was ninjutsu too, but in my country, we call it just stupid.
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
i already told you where you could find them...
and you said "grandfather burned majority of scrolls and everything written in papers,"
you DID say EVERYTHING in papers... which is blatantly false, as the papers are sitting in the iga museum.
and i never said my word would be source enough... and ya thats the story... imagine to strength of will... insane, but it let him walk away from it.. so if getting out alive is stupid in your country... the list of sources will follow.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
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@Creationsofmyown "you DID say EVERYTHING in papers... " Read again, here: "He has stated himself that his grandfather burned majority of scrolls and everything written in papers, BEFORE Fujita started training with him." It says MAJORITY of scrolls and everything written in papers. Learn to read. I dont know what all sorts of writings, scrawlings and scribbles he had, but MAJORITY of all that was gone loooong before Fujita learned what just MAY BE koga. So where did you get that 8 years?
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
here... you can track it down if you want to argue it....
Bugei Ryuha Daijiten, 1978 Watatani Kiyoshi, Yamada Tadashi.
Koga Ryu Ichidai Ki , (Reprint of Doronron: Saigo No Ninja) 1959, Fujita Seiko.
Kenpo Gokui Atemi Sakkatsu-Ho Meikai, Fujita Seiko.
Ninja To Ninjutsu, 2003 Nakashima Atsumi.
Black Belt Magazine, 1967 vol. 2, Andrew Adams.
Black Belt Magazine, 1967 vol. 3, Andrew Adams.
Ninja: The Invisible Assassins, 1970 Andrew Adams.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@tekija1 continued
Ninja: The True Story of Japan's Secret Warrior Cult, 1991, Stephen Turnbull.
Koryu Bujutsu: Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan, 1997, Diane Skoss.
Secrets of the Samurai: The Martial Arts of Feudal Japan, 1973, Oscar Ratti/Adele Westbrook.
Classical Budo: The Martial Arts and Ways of Japan: vol. 2, 1973, Don F Draeger.
but you know better than all of these people right?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Ok. I go to read 9 books and 2 magazines right now.
tekija1 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown The Bugeicho (11/1963) editor Kiyoshi Watatani states that Hatsumi's ideas and lineage are only his ideas and have no proof to support them,[8] but later in the year independent history scholar and author Ryutaro Koyama published his first book on the Togakure ryu entitled Kore wa ninjutsu da! Koyama followed up the following year with an expanded book called Shinsetsu Nihon ninja retsuden, and martial arts authority Yumio Nawa also examined and confirmed the
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1 wow you can paste from wikipedia?
your mother must be proud...
your claims are uncited on wiki... that may tell you something....
and regardless... hatsumi claims to have scrolls... these have never been authenticated... nobody with the authority to judge them has ever done so...
sure hatsumi will let rank amateurs that have already shelled out thousands to him take a peak... but historians? koryu societies? none have been permitted.
just prove the link to daisuke for me. kthxbye
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Togakure ryu's historical status in his 1972 book Ninjutsu no kenkyu[9] (Ninchibo Shuppansha). Watatani, editor of the Bugeicho who had said that there was no proof to Hatsumi's claims in 1963 then reverses himself and in his work the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten 1978 from then on treats the Togakure ryu as a historical art.
tekija1 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown But this just cant be true, right?
tekija1 1 year ago
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tekija1 1 year ago
never throw both weapons...geez fist vs sword..XD
takashiclan 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA
*breath*
HAHAHAHAHAH!
kungfuwookie 1 year ago
stupid westerners dishing out loads of cash to get their meaningless ''dans'' you can have all the dans in the world but you still got schooled by a real fighter all these comments 'they were going easy on them'' bullshit why were they hitting them in the face then if they were really masters they could of controlled the fight alot better rather than being pun on their ass like rag dolls and flailing their foam swords around hatsumi is a brilliant con artist! he must be loaded from these fools
hoboguru 1 year ago
blackbelt beating by 1 week training man?
that's sucks
kendo is not like that
if they fight with kendo man they just die
crush12100 1 year ago
are they wearing blackbelts? they've been there a week
GingerSkate7 2 years ago
"These two white ninjas couldn't beat the two white MMA fighters?! Ha! I bet a 5'2 tall japanese dude could beat them."
No, he probably couldn't. MMA fighters are top trained and have expert reflexes, and they have superior physique to most random people who decide to go into jujitzu training. Plus they are white, and white people are stronger and dominate REAL fighting sports today. Put that in your doju and smoke it.
Sinekyre14 2 years ago
@Sinekyre14
That is why they will loose, because that 5'2 japanese dude will have perfected his technique much more then they for the simple reasen that he is smaller. Just being bigger does not mean you will win, it only means you will fall harder when you loose.
Thonero 1 year ago 2
@Sinekyre14
Physique doesn't have to do with the skill of fighting, but the health and finesse that correlates with the capabilities they can phyiscally do with their bodies. And you said that white people are stronger and dominate in fighting sports...well can you tell me how many white people are in MMA as compared to the rest of the MMA population? MMA has no philosophy, thats why there are more fighters that only commit to fighting in a ring with rules.
lYakuzal 1 year ago
Now can you tell me how that relates to Martial arts and how that can be described as REAL fighting?
It should tell you why there are only MMA fighters who have taken discipline in only a very few and somewhat common martial arts.
lYakuzal 1 year ago
those hosts suck! just watch taekwondo final.
id replace them to Bas Rutten and chuck norris ;D
imagine how cool it would be
MrCepelinas 2 years ago
hey guys i got this question that i ask everyone on net. i am a karate goju-ryu fighter and when im black belt i want to do another martial art and im rly stuck between ninjitsu and shaolin kung-fu and i want all the ppl that see this message to asnwer me PLZ!!!! but also when u write down the martial art u chose plz write y u chose it. plz answer me and thx
BeedonProductions 2 years ago
only learn ninjitsu if your gonna kill someone
if not, shaolin is the way
theedwardashford 1 year ago
you do know that sholin is simply the name of a 2 type classification system,
if it wasnt wudan, it was shaolin, whether it came from anywhere near the temple ever or not.
its just a buzzword the government picked while classifying the kungfu in an attempt to support its resurgence.
i recommend swordsage's excellent video on the topic.
and i suggest the shinobi soldier series here on youtube, you may learn some more about ninjutsu.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
Yeah I really wasn't expecting a reply to my comment. I did not ask for a history lesson. Somene asked which way to go, ninjutsu or shaolin, and I gave my reccomendation. I don't care about your silly governments or your classifications.
theedwardashford 1 year ago
yes people who are quick to accept claims from people like hatsumi are usually the ones who choose to remain ignorant of history....
not that there is anything wrong with that... but if you arent willing to argue its history then you cant very well argue it in a historical category, especially when (as a martial art) the bujinkan is quite clearly nothing like what we know ninjutsu to be....
you are the one with the classifications here, i was just helping you out of a mistake you made...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
What the hell? Bujinkan? Hatsumi? Some youtuber asked a simple queston in which I gave my opinion. Then you make a random reply to my comment, which was directed at somebody else, about bujikan and hatsumi and mistakes in classifications. Are you trolling?
theedwardashford 1 year ago
uh if you dont understand the basic terminology used in my comments ( all of which are directed at you), then you have NO place offering advide to anyone.
you profess that you should only learn ninjutsu if your going to kill someone, but how does that makes any sense? ninjutsu isnt a martial art.... its the art of sitting undetected for 3 days,,,
if your going to give advice, try to not tell people to study an art that has been dead for 40 years,
no ninjutsu alive today, NONE
Arteanor 1 year ago 2
woops, seems my brother was on youtube last night.... left his account on...
how about we keep it simple for you ed,
what makes you think ninjutsu is for killing people? and what makes you think that what you know is anywhere close to ninjutsu?
2 simple questions,
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
obviously you dont get it. i dont care. not once did i say ninjutsu was a martial art. furthermore this is youtube and i can write whatever i want in my comments. if you think you can give him better, more professional advice go right ahead. but stfu and stop talking to me!!!
theedwardashford 1 year ago
Who was the last ninja, if the art died 40 years ago?
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
Fujita Seiko, Soke of Koka-ryu Wada-ha ninjutsu
he also went on record many times saying he was the last ninja,
and even wrote a book with that title..(the last nina)
hope that clears things up for you.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Hey lol, really. What proves he is more authentic than Takamatsu Toshitsugu?
tekija1 1 year ago
@tekija1
DENSHO, and LEGITIMATE VERIFIABLE( which really is easy) LINEAGE.
the other major proof is that he demonstrated working knowledge of the ninjutsu we know from the historical record... he also did so in the 20's decades before the ninja-craze...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@tekija1
DENSHO, and LEGITIMATE VERIFIABLE( which really is easy) LINEAGE.
the other major proof is that he demonstrated working knowledge of the ninjutsu we know from the historical record... he also did so in the 20's decades before the ninja-craze...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
The word "Shaolin" means "little woods" or "little forest." The Shalon Temple was named that just because of its location. And Shaolin martial arts were called Chuan-Fa originally. The term Kung Fu wasn't coined until much later.
44excalibur 1 year ago
i learned ninjutsu and never killed someone!
ninjutsu was used to kill in the feudal japan, now a days is used just as a tradictional martial art...
kyubinoyouko1 1 year ago
oss friend. i am also a goju ryu martial artist. if i had to choose another art to study it would be fujian white crane kung fu because thats where goju came from. but my advice is dont stop training in goju once you attain black belt. thats when your training truly begins. trust me on that one. you have alot to learn always. and in my opinion goju is one of the most versatile arts out there.
shendoboy 1 year ago
@BeedonProductions Hi, maybe I'm a little late for your question, but I'll answer anyway. I dont trust this common fashion of "this is better, this is bad" or the "ultimate MA" stuffs, I believe any MA could make you stronger, and none could work if you dont make it working. Besides, you should do what you think suits for you, what you like. If you like Goju Ryu, you probably should like Tae Kwon Do, or Shaolin. Think what you want, what you really like, not what is "cool", and try. Good Luck.
Raposamandinga 1 year ago
jaja the human weapon guys were pissed in this
episode!
Nautilus987 2 years ago
ja pierdole [*]
yommek 2 years ago
what's the different between ninja and shinobi?
emanresu81 2 years ago 2
There is no diference, I think in japan they were called shinobi and later they were called ninja
nickk95 2 years ago 2
yea, there isn't much difference
ninja is a compound word, written as 忍者 in japanese.
the first character by itself means to conceal, and written in its verb stem form is pronounced shinobi.
the 2nd character means person-who-does-this-as-occupation. (similar in some respects to the -er suffix in english)
so basically shinobi = someone who is concealing themselves and ninja = someone who does that as an occupation
Dahvood 2 years ago
shinobi is the japanese word for ninja
ranmelzac 2 years ago
Pretty much all of these end up in Aiuchi. Not easy to do this and in fairness the beginners did pretty well and Bill won 2-1. Remember we are talking 10 & 15 dan with how many years training. Would have been interesting to see the Japanese shihan.
jediknight2006 2 years ago
This two men of the bujinkan are 10 or 15 DAN??unbelievable!they can't do anything good technique with two mens beginers,no its soo very ashamed and ridiculous.please let's have serious and real training!!forget your 15 dan belt!
NINJUTSUJAPAN 2 years ago
@NINJUTSUJAPAN they have to let the two beginners win a little. it's TV you know. they can't be serious otherwise they would have REAL injuries. broken bones for example
rondendik 2 years ago
@rondendik You r right...but at least they should show a correct technique of handling the bo...no offence^^
IgaShinobis 2 years ago
well its so common for westerners to receive a few dan grades with each visit to japan isnt it! thats what keeps them going.
I heard someone comment that if Hatsumi realy took these guys seriously he would have sent japanese shihan.
alanfigueroa123 2 years ago 2
There is no proven origin of Ninjutsu. It is possible that many styles of it were invented though.
Some Samurai did change to being Ninja, while others were Farmers, or even traditional villages.
Also, there are 3 Ninjutsu schools i know of.
Obviously Bujinkan, another im having trouble remembering, it starts with a "J", and another i haven't bothered to try to remember.
I know there are 3 i just cant name the other 2.
This is a very VERY effective martial art.
hazza3 2 years ago
It's all bull. Check out this interesting article on the true history of the bujinkan.
sustainedreaction. yuku. com /topic/5540
MuayThai31681 2 years ago
One cannot consider a school "illegitimate" merely because it does not belong to these organizations.
ReignOfShadow 2 years ago
The usual rumour going about cyberspace is that sometime in the late 1960's/early 1970's, Mr. Hatsumi applied and was rejected, since Takamatsu sensei had reproduced most of the densho. Another version is that he didn't want the densho to be defaced by scientists for the carbon 14 tests, so he withdrew his application. Rumours are rumours though, you can never learn the truth unless you hear it from the horses mouth. That being Mr. Hatsumi himself & the members of the Kyokai who interviewed him.
ReignOfShadow 2 years ago
Reference :
blog . bushinbooks . com/2006/07/05/nihon-kobudo-shinkokai-nihon-kobudo-kyokai/
ReignOfShadow 2 years ago
Are those swords made of wood?
MrFrance87 2 years ago
They are made of bamboo covered in leather.
BujinkanMartialArts 2 years ago
Thank you.
MrFrance87 2 years ago
ninja's were farmers who took up the art to defend themselves, not ex samurai's. Once you became a samurai u didnt just wake up one day and say i quit, you were devoted to your master for life
Warlordx91 2 years ago
Check some history bro.
It's common knowledge that most 'ninja' were also Samurai.
I think you fall victim to the misconception of what a ninja was.
Isntallowed 2 years ago 2
ninja were farmer that got sick of the samurai
being assholes so buy useing farm tools they made there selfs into deadly weapons.
Like ninjtsu its made to kill fast then go back to hiding
lorddrew599 2 years ago
hes right
only way to leave a Samurai was to die
lorddrew599 2 years ago
Read something that wasn't written by a fourteen year old boy before you start talking. Honestly, it's good for your public image.
Isntallowed 2 years ago
yet so many people do
nicerebound 2 years ago
True monsier...sword are a lot different from a fist.
War of arts is a sport and Martial art is a Fighting style of fist. There are differences from sport and UFC
KevinVang1000 2 years ago
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Lol at the ninja fag trying to fight him for real! He should've sticked to playing with his plastic swords.
Theyellowma 2 years ago
served the same function that Navy Seals and Delta Force more like CIA or MI6
hohooha 2 years ago
Sorry, but they were not "glorified ancient street gangs." In fact, the very first ninja were ex-samurai. And please refrain from smart-ass comments like the one at the end of your reply, they don't make you sound very knowledgable.
44excalibur 2 years ago 2
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and here i thought my personal insults were an excellent display of knowledge
my point, is that there was no such thing as 'the ninja way', there was no standard skill set, no organization and frankly no good records about how they trained or operated. so for you to say the buj is great because the ninjas were so successful is silly. do you picture ninja union meetings where they laid out specific tactics and policies all to preserved in the scrolls that dictate modern training?
nicerebound 2 years ago
1. Personal insults are not a display of knowledge, but of ignorance of the martial way. 2. You're assuming that Bujinkan is the only school of ninjutsu out there. 3. People like you are the martial-arts equivalent of flat-earthers who believe Apollo 11 never landed on the moon, or creationists who say evolution is a myth. No matter what data is thrown your way, you'll say it is insubstantial. Your mind has already been made up, although I doubt you've faced an artist of the style you criticize.
44excalibur 2 years ago
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1. how are personal insults not a display of knowledge? 2. which ninja academy do you attend and what is their connection with the successful ancient ninjas who prove the arts worth? 3. i doubt very many 'flat-earthers' are aware of the apollo missions. im actually quite interested in evolution.
and i think you said something about data? what are the data to which you refer. the proper data could change my mind, but i don't recall any. are you sure you meant 'data', not just 'information'?
nicerebound 2 years ago
i thought ninjas killed samuri?
04brandl 2 years ago
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@44excalibur
"the very first ninja were ex-samurai "
this is not true at all... the first shinobi WERE samurai. not ex, but current.
next your going to tell me that ninjutsu is a martial art right???
"And please refrain from smart-ass comments like the one at the end of your reply, they don't make you sound very knowledgable."
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
15 dan? wtf man....i thought that the 10 th dan is the last....:))
GigiChelbosu 2 years ago
I was wondering the same thing! In Korean arts, we have to allow for an increasing number if years between Dan levels. (1 yrs. from 1st to 2nd Dan, 2 yrs. from 2nd the 3rd Dan, etc.) They must do it completely different to get to those high numbers.
4thDan 2 years ago
Ohhh a 15° Dan ninjutsu master down fall with de ashi barai, i don't understand, could be a ninja fake. Bujinkan??? 5:19
Navatorey 2 years ago
and you DO need to be athletic to strike someones throat because you actually have to hit it before they hit you. something you probably can't do with buj training, since chances are the sparring is sparse and unrealistic
and as far as the knee strikes go, you've got no idea what you are talking about. if you think destroying the knee joint of an attacker is simple and not physically demanding your obviously not on level
nicerebound 2 years ago
do you study a more popular system with a chain of locations? is this a smaller operation? what is the background of this specific ninjutsu you study, which you claim is effective because of what might happen when you go super deadly
nicerebound 2 years ago
I learned from my uncle who has various belts in different styles including ninjutsu. Through him I learned ninjutsu, and through studying I learned more about ninjutsu. Ninjutsu isn't what a lot of people think it is or actually make it out to be. It's a way of survival and a tradition. Not a systematic art that requires specific lineage.
And I realize that unlike what I see bujinkan doing, I need actual sparring practice. And that's what I do against other martial artist.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 years ago
so i think we can come to an agreement about a few things. you claim ninjutsu works, especially in armed combat, and you offer steve jennum as evidence for this. as you explained, no other evidence can be provided because you don't typically carry a camera.
i criticize ninjutsu because there are 100's of videos of unrealistic ninjutsu training and no evidence that it works, aside from steve jennum of course
im still wondering, what specifically do you study, if not bujinkan ninjutsu?
nicerebound 2 years ago
Yeah I criticize them too. Because they don't know what it's like to actually fight. There's things you learn about fighting by actually being in a fight. They worry more about religious and politics of who has ancient lineage vs actual effective martial arts that works. That's why these videos are under my favs. watch?v=jCbcaLpmeaA
watch?v=0OuU8eIis0E
There's things you can only learn by fighting about fighting. Not by someone holding their arm out without retraction.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 years ago
Nijutsu's effectiveness can be attested to by the fact that for hundreds of years they served the same function that Navy Seals and Delta Force serve today, only they had no modern technology to assist them.
44excalibur 2 years ago
i ask you when ninjutsu has proven effective with weapons and you give me excuses and some vague hypotheticals...
nicerebound 2 years ago
Well I don't have a video camera with me on standby,nor do I catch everything on video. So I have to give you hypotheticals.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 years ago
jesus, again with the steve jennum thing. its one fight, how does one fight prove anything about ninjutsu. there was nothing distinctly ninjutsu about the way jennum fought.
we understand your point, its just not enough to justify the conclusion you keep supporting. unarmed ninjutsu still sucks, even though jennum won that particular fight.
nicerebound 2 years ago
If it sucks, he wouldn't of won. And that's just one Ninjutsu artist. There could be better ones out there, but most ninjutsu artist don't have the mindset of being a Cage Fighter. Because if you want to learn to go toe to toe. You should get into a martial arts that does that. Ninjutsu isn't about going toe to toe in a cage. The only reason why I spar in cages. Is to see how effective my unarmed combat is, not to make a career out of MMA.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 years ago
if ninjutsu has any merit as a weapons system, where has it proven effective in this respect? do you really think a ninjutsu practitioner would stand a chance with weapons against a decent fencer? kendo? dog brothers?
what is your specific art shinobi? i ask to understand where you are coming from
nicerebound 2 years ago
Where has it proven effective?
Well because ninjutsu artist don't have to win going toe to toe with a fencer, kendo practitioner, or a dog brother MA.
As you even saw in this video. It would be a barrage of shuriken or perhaps a black egg(Metsubushi). And then kill while they're disgruntled.
In other words..... in Ninjutsu you practice MANY different skills not just weapons and unarmed combat either. But it's an art of survival. And this has shown itself all the time. Throughout wars.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha, you actually think you train like ancient warriors?!?!
i ask again, what do you practice exactly?
nicerebound 2 years ago
I practice Ninjutsu.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 years a