The cinemax show: Forbidden Science, is a good show, if more porn was that style it would be better accepted, or that Stars show Sparatacus, HBO ROME, hmm well you get the point, make it a real show and not just stupid stuff
Part of the problem is that sex and nudity is taboo, so it comes out repressed in degrading perverted forms. What we need is pornography that has a story, that has characters with souls, not one-dimensional objects. And we need to show more nudity on TV at day times. Children's eyes won't explode if they see a dick, they have one, too. Pornography is the bad effect of sexual repression in society. We need more sex, more nudity, and then the degrading pornography will decrease.
@AirSandFire I think most people will agree, porn is not for children, im sure children know something about sex, but an introduction to it too early will probably be more detrimental.
But besides, that i agree with you. Porn needs to be art. Not just an industry churning out degrading videos just for profit.
I supposed its the difference between a McDonald hamburger, as opposed to moms cooking or a chef who takes pride in their work.
@qwertypoiu4321 I think it really is more complex than that. Have you seen the entire documentary? It explores many aspects of the industry, it has interviews with producers, consumers and stars in a very detailed study, it's not just a bunch of angry feminazis complaining about "inevitabe male cravings". Look it up.
@GodSalamander No, it is that simple. If you do not like to do it then do not do it, if you do not like to watch it then do not watch it. Any coercive restrictions would be a criminal attack on voluntary expression.
If you do not like racist hate speech, don't watch it.
If you do not like simulated child pornography, don't watch it.
If you do not like pitbull fighting, don't watch it.
It's a bit of an absurd argument.
I agree that people should not watch things they don't want to watch. But here you're claiming, without any proof, that the makers and some of the interviewees want to arrest people. They are simply criticizing pornography.
As I've pointed out before, porn degrades everyone, but especially the men, who are reduced to nothing more than a "stunt dick". Their faces aren't shown, their voices aren't heard and they don't receive top billing. They are hardly acknowledged at all. If you want to see sexual violence that strips women of their dignity, go read the history of the Christian church...it's called the Inqusition.
Um, no. Their voices aren't shown because the target demographic of porn is YOUNG, HETEROSEXUAL MEN. Men that go into porn have more stability in their jobs, as they usually aren't expected to do increasingly extreme things such as double penetration. Almost every woman who is famous in pornography has had to do increasingly extreme things. Men do not.
The core audience of porn isn't going to pay to see men performing--they pay to see women perform! And about being "hardly acknowledged", that's just not true. Almost all the directors, producers, and writers are MEN.
The Spanish Inquisition has nothing to do with Christianity. Biblical Christianity is not religion, what you've mentioned here is a break off from Biblical Christianity such as Catholics, people who believe being baptised as an infant makes them saved, which isn't true because it goes against Romans 10:9. John 3:16, Acts 16:34 where one believes in their heart then confesses with their tongue to be saved & lives as Jesus dd! Satan believe sin God is he saved? Know what your talking about friend!
@CordsZ Not even. Porn degrades women most of all. Men are not shown because most men don't go to see porn to see the GUYS. They go to to see the women. Most porn is targeted and straight males. Of course there are exceptions with gay porn, but the majority is straight porn. Not at gay males or females. So they go to see the women be as humiliated, degraded and practically stripped of their dignity in front of millions of people. It's disgusting.
@smexytbone why does having sex on camera degrade people more than 'normal' private sex between two people.
the camera is just another 'eye' through which people can choose to be viewed, instead of just their partner.
THAT is not bad, being forced into that as your only option in life is bad. so, in conclusion, its not the objectification i have a problem with, it is routine, normalized objectification that takes away multilayered personalities from women that is detrimental to society.
@fredslipknot9 You are are completely incorrect. The camera is just not another added eye. There is also the director watching, the crew watching, the camera men watching, the producers watching and the MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT VIEW PORN WATCHING. To just say that there's just probably 3 people watching is complete bullshit. YOU obviously watch porn. So that's ANOTHER person watching to.
Sex is supposed to be a private special thing. Not something that people think it's okay to make money off of
@smexytbone why not, what right do you have too say how people make money. now, obviously, there are limits, but legalising the making of porn would not suddenly cause society to collapse or something so melodramatic. if anything, it would the industry safer, more secure and subject too things like OFCOM or standardized laws/rules.
plus, you provide no reason for WHY sex sghould be private, what makes the camera and people watching it so very different, its just distance and time.
@fredslipknot9 and, further more, what about people who cannot physically engage in sex.
just because of your beliefs, should they be forced to never experiance sex or anything that might replicate it in fantasy, like porn.
nobody forces you too watch it, so dont, but when mature people make a decision, i generally believe that they should not be branded for their choice.
@fredslipknot9 Umm what? Why would they not be able to physically engage in sex? And if it is their religious beliefs then they could get out of their religion. Besides. I HIGHLY doubt watching porn would be acceptable if their religion doesn't even allow sex. I believe in the power of choice but there is nothing that is going to change my opiion that porn IS degrading.
@smexytbone okay, i am willing too except that idea, but i cannot (justifiably) say that porn is degrading until you tell me WHY, and something more sustantial than 'is degrades women because...', as in, i woulddeeply like to understand your reasoning behind your arguments.
@fredslipknot9 Women are often seen as submissive in porn and crazy hungry sex addicts who want to fuck all the time. They get paid for doing more extreme things and those extreme things often have to deal with them being violated in some sick twisted human perversion to feed some guy's fetish behind the computer screen. She may not like doing it, but she does it for the money. In documentaries after girls are finished with the scene they are often crying or feeling disgusted. Most try to numb
@fredslipknot9 the pain and emotional feelings they have with drugs. Women are hardly seen as dominant in porn and can influence men in RL that women are always wanting sex and want to do all these things in porn too, when in reality not a lot of women do. Most women want meaningful relationships not based off of sex. But porn can tell a man otherwise and think that men are supposed to be dominant all the time and women are just supposed to go with it.
@fredslipknot9 Yes, it doesn't cause the collapse of society but it does INFLUENCE society. And more often than not, a negative way.
Lol no. You should really hear the words of EX porn stars and how degraded they felt. And on documentaries there are testimonies from women that say that their first porn experience is the worst experience of their lives. Don't argue with me on that since that is TRUE words come from their mouths.
Go watch porn if you want, but at least I know better. :]
@fredslipknot9 i agree totally with what you say but i have yet too see evidence of these claims send me links and i will happilly believe you as well as agree with what you say.
@fredslipknot9 Please visit antipornography blog here on youtube.
She has many, many links and videos of the evidence you need. She opened my eyes as an ex porn user, and I believe that there needs to be better ways in the pornography industry. Including interviews with ex porn stars.
And I appreciate that you are willing to agree with me. You're probably one of the more sane people I have met here on the internet. Thank you. :)
@smexytbone its cool, i have my own views but i accept that i'm not a god so i dont necessarilly have all the answers. you seem like a guy who knows a fair amount of this stuff, so i asked you.
@fredslipknot9 Ahh well believe it or not, I'm actually a girl. I used to be addicted to porn before and now I've seen better thanks to the antipornographyblog here. I thought she was being dumb and closed minded, but then I realized some things that were actually true from her youtube channel.
@smexytbone well i guess its all about how women are meant to be pure and innocent in public and foxes in the bedroom according too the western ideal of gender/sexuality. i do not profress to know much about feminism, but i like to think i know a llittle bit at least. so yeah, that why i guess women and men both have very dichotomous characters because we are only just starting to break away from old traditions.
@fredslipknot9 True. I believe that the way our society can see women sometimes can not only influence men but women too... well it's good that you do know a little bit to feminism. I am sorta a feminist but porn is something that feminists are against, so I would feel like a hypocrite when I used to watch porn. But for some reason... I kept watching because I did enjoy it, but I always felt guilty afterwads because I knew what went on behind the scenes. True. New generation = new ideals.
@smexytbone well, in a sense, yes, that last point is right. but it is relative, and too assume that a new generation WILL have new ideals is a dangerous assumption too maKE.
sorry, im an IB2 DP student, and TOK is getting on my baxck about these things.
if you don't know what that is, just google 'international baccaleureate TOK'.
@CordsZ Yeah, a large portion of pornography is made for an audience of adult, straight males. What straight guy wants to see another dude getting into the sex? Not many. They would rather see the girl. So... They keep is face out of it. If it's gay porn, both dudes are recognized and are paid significantly more. And most dudes going into porn know this, so as a consequence, a lot of straight guys will do gay porn.
looks about as one-sided as a michael moore film. where's the defence? it's just another whole lotta hate against porn from "conservative" people (whether practicing conservative or just socially so)
Thank you so much for posting this trailer. This is a critically important film that really has the power to change society for the better - especially for women.
Now we need a Japanese hentai version of this movie
sickweirdo 1 month ago
Saying Don't ... affects more than sayng Do ... so cut the crap ...
ProfDoda 2 months ago
Yeah, I watched this the other day on Netflix. Thought it was full of shit.
SRXReborn 2 months ago
stupid anti-porn movie
MTVVH1sucks 4 months ago
The cinemax show: Forbidden Science, is a good show, if more porn was that style it would be better accepted, or that Stars show Sparatacus, HBO ROME, hmm well you get the point, make it a real show and not just stupid stuff
DarkFenix34512 4 months ago
Part of the problem is that sex and nudity is taboo, so it comes out repressed in degrading perverted forms. What we need is pornography that has a story, that has characters with souls, not one-dimensional objects. And we need to show more nudity on TV at day times. Children's eyes won't explode if they see a dick, they have one, too. Pornography is the bad effect of sexual repression in society. We need more sex, more nudity, and then the degrading pornography will decrease.
AirSandFire 7 months ago 10
@AirSandFire I think most people will agree, porn is not for children, im sure children know something about sex, but an introduction to it too early will probably be more detrimental.
But besides, that i agree with you. Porn needs to be art. Not just an industry churning out degrading videos just for profit.
I supposed its the difference between a McDonald hamburger, as opposed to moms cooking or a chef who takes pride in their work.
sullenboy1o3o 5 months ago
@AirSandFire You've obviously havent been to japan.
deathcreator 4 months ago
@AirSandFire what man wants his little girl seeing dozens of penises on tv before shes old enough to know what its for
if she sees dicks on tv, shell want to see them in real life
youre sick for encouraging that
JamaicanCutie18 2 months ago
@JamaicanCutie18 seriously, porn is fucked up
anteaterhands 1 month ago
What happened to the full video? I thought it was licensed for public use?
nta214 7 months ago
There is nothing more wrong with porn than there is with marijuana. If you do not like porn do not watch it.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
@qwertypoiu4321 I think it really is more complex than that. Have you seen the entire documentary? It explores many aspects of the industry, it has interviews with producers, consumers and stars in a very detailed study, it's not just a bunch of angry feminazis complaining about "inevitabe male cravings". Look it up.
GodSalamander 8 months ago
@GodSalamander No, it is that simple. If you do not like to do it then do not do it, if you do not like to watch it then do not watch it. Any coercive restrictions would be a criminal attack on voluntary expression.
qwertypoiu4321 7 months ago
@qwertypoiu4321 "If you do not like porn do not watch it."
If you do not like racist hate speech, don't watch it.
If you do not like simulated child pornography, don't watch it.
If you do not like pitbull fighting, don't watch it.
It's a bit of an absurd argument.
I agree that people should not watch things they don't want to watch. But here you're claiming, without any proof, that the makers and some of the interviewees want to arrest people. They are simply criticizing pornography.
kissfan7 6 months ago
is this documentary there on youtube??? please giv me the link
razeensayed 2 years ago
As I've pointed out before, porn degrades everyone, but especially the men, who are reduced to nothing more than a "stunt dick". Their faces aren't shown, their voices aren't heard and they don't receive top billing. They are hardly acknowledged at all. If you want to see sexual violence that strips women of their dignity, go read the history of the Christian church...it's called the Inqusition.
CordsZ 3 years ago 3
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Um, no. Their voices aren't shown because the target demographic of porn is YOUNG, HETEROSEXUAL MEN. Men that go into porn have more stability in their jobs, as they usually aren't expected to do increasingly extreme things such as double penetration. Almost every woman who is famous in pornography has had to do increasingly extreme things. Men do not.
Somethingreallycool 2 years ago 6
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The core audience of porn isn't going to pay to see men performing--they pay to see women perform! And about being "hardly acknowledged", that's just not true. Almost all the directors, producers, and writers are MEN.
Somethingreallycool 2 years ago 3
If you don't believe me, look up "AVN awards" and search through the names of those nominated for 'best director', for instance.
Somethingreallycool 2 years ago
The Spanish Inquisition has nothing to do with Christianity. Biblical Christianity is not religion, what you've mentioned here is a break off from Biblical Christianity such as Catholics, people who believe being baptised as an infant makes them saved, which isn't true because it goes against Romans 10:9. John 3:16, Acts 16:34 where one believes in their heart then confesses with their tongue to be saved & lives as Jesus dd! Satan believe sin God is he saved? Know what your talking about friend!
Tubsta1 2 years ago
@CordsZ Not even. Porn degrades women most of all. Men are not shown because most men don't go to see porn to see the GUYS. They go to to see the women. Most porn is targeted and straight males. Of course there are exceptions with gay porn, but the majority is straight porn. Not at gay males or females. So they go to see the women be as humiliated, degraded and practically stripped of their dignity in front of millions of people. It's disgusting.
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone why does having sex on camera degrade people more than 'normal' private sex between two people.
the camera is just another 'eye' through which people can choose to be viewed, instead of just their partner.
THAT is not bad, being forced into that as your only option in life is bad. so, in conclusion, its not the objectification i have a problem with, it is routine, normalized objectification that takes away multilayered personalities from women that is detrimental to society.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 You are are completely incorrect. The camera is just not another added eye. There is also the director watching, the crew watching, the camera men watching, the producers watching and the MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT VIEW PORN WATCHING. To just say that there's just probably 3 people watching is complete bullshit. YOU obviously watch porn. So that's ANOTHER person watching to.
Sex is supposed to be a private special thing. Not something that people think it's okay to make money off of
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone why not, what right do you have too say how people make money. now, obviously, there are limits, but legalising the making of porn would not suddenly cause society to collapse or something so melodramatic. if anything, it would the industry safer, more secure and subject too things like OFCOM or standardized laws/rules.
plus, you provide no reason for WHY sex sghould be private, what makes the camera and people watching it so very different, its just distance and time.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 and, further more, what about people who cannot physically engage in sex.
just because of your beliefs, should they be forced to never experiance sex or anything that might replicate it in fantasy, like porn.
nobody forces you too watch it, so dont, but when mature people make a decision, i generally believe that they should not be branded for their choice.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 Umm what? Why would they not be able to physically engage in sex? And if it is their religious beliefs then they could get out of their religion. Besides. I HIGHLY doubt watching porn would be acceptable if their religion doesn't even allow sex. I believe in the power of choice but there is nothing that is going to change my opiion that porn IS degrading.
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone okay, i am willing too except that idea, but i cannot (justifiably) say that porn is degrading until you tell me WHY, and something more sustantial than 'is degrades women because...', as in, i woulddeeply like to understand your reasoning behind your arguments.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 Women are often seen as submissive in porn and crazy hungry sex addicts who want to fuck all the time. They get paid for doing more extreme things and those extreme things often have to deal with them being violated in some sick twisted human perversion to feed some guy's fetish behind the computer screen. She may not like doing it, but she does it for the money. In documentaries after girls are finished with the scene they are often crying or feeling disgusted. Most try to numb
smexytbone 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 the pain and emotional feelings they have with drugs. Women are hardly seen as dominant in porn and can influence men in RL that women are always wanting sex and want to do all these things in porn too, when in reality not a lot of women do. Most women want meaningful relationships not based off of sex. But porn can tell a man otherwise and think that men are supposed to be dominant all the time and women are just supposed to go with it.
smexytbone 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 Yes, it doesn't cause the collapse of society but it does INFLUENCE society. And more often than not, a negative way.
Lol no. You should really hear the words of EX porn stars and how degraded they felt. And on documentaries there are testimonies from women that say that their first porn experience is the worst experience of their lives. Don't argue with me on that since that is TRUE words come from their mouths.
Go watch porn if you want, but at least I know better. :]
smexytbone 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 i agree totally with what you say but i have yet too see evidence of these claims send me links and i will happilly believe you as well as agree with what you say.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 Please visit antipornography blog here on youtube.
She has many, many links and videos of the evidence you need. She opened my eyes as an ex porn user, and I believe that there needs to be better ways in the pornography industry. Including interviews with ex porn stars.
And I appreciate that you are willing to agree with me. You're probably one of the more sane people I have met here on the internet. Thank you. :)
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone its cool, i have my own views but i accept that i'm not a god so i dont necessarilly have all the answers. you seem like a guy who knows a fair amount of this stuff, so i asked you.
thanks.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 Ahh well believe it or not, I'm actually a girl. I used to be addicted to porn before and now I've seen better thanks to the antipornographyblog here. I thought she was being dumb and closed minded, but then I realized some things that were actually true from her youtube channel.
Yup no problem. And thank you. :]
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone you are like the only girl i know who who admits too having watched/is watching porn.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 Ahaha wow interesting. :)
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone well i guess its all about how women are meant to be pure and innocent in public and foxes in the bedroom according too the western ideal of gender/sexuality. i do not profress to know much about feminism, but i like to think i know a llittle bit at least. so yeah, that why i guess women and men both have very dichotomous characters because we are only just starting to break away from old traditions.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 True. I believe that the way our society can see women sometimes can not only influence men but women too... well it's good that you do know a little bit to feminism. I am sorta a feminist but porn is something that feminists are against, so I would feel like a hypocrite when I used to watch porn. But for some reason... I kept watching because I did enjoy it, but I always felt guilty afterwads because I knew what went on behind the scenes. True. New generation = new ideals.
smexytbone 1 year ago
@smexytbone well, in a sense, yes, that last point is right. but it is relative, and too assume that a new generation WILL have new ideals is a dangerous assumption too maKE.
sorry, im an IB2 DP student, and TOK is getting on my baxck about these things.
if you don't know what that is, just google 'international baccaleureate TOK'.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@fredslipknot9 believe me, its really hard.
fredslipknot9 1 year ago
@CordsZ so your saying porn is not sexist?
sullenboy1o3o 5 months ago
@CordsZ Yeah, a large portion of pornography is made for an audience of adult, straight males. What straight guy wants to see another dude getting into the sex? Not many. They would rather see the girl. So... They keep is face out of it. If it's gay porn, both dudes are recognized and are paid significantly more. And most dudes going into porn know this, so as a consequence, a lot of straight guys will do gay porn.
rachaelswiftt 1 month ago
looks about as one-sided as a michael moore film. where's the defence? it's just another whole lotta hate against porn from "conservative" people (whether practicing conservative or just socially so)
mikeo713713 3 years ago
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NO. People who use their brains and believe in dignity hate porn.
darkentity88 3 years ago 22
Radical feminists are in no way conservative.
ioploki 2 years ago
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It's not just radical feminists who hate porn. Look up Chomsky's answer to this question on the right.
Somethingreallycool 2 years ago 14
Thank you so much for posting this trailer. This is a critically important film that really has the power to change society for the better - especially for women.
AntiPornographyBlog 3 years ago 2
This looks like a really powerful documentary. I hope many people get the chance to see it!
AntiSexploitation 3 years ago