@ParadigmPenguin How can freedom of speech, and transparency, be evil? In releasing this information to the world, surely he is thinking of far more than himself, but of his supporters and other people he feels deserve to know this information. With regards to the execution part of your comment, there must be thousands of people working within the depths of wikileaks, not to mention the people who provide him with information in the first place. If Assange dies, this will not stop.
This is not freedom of speech. It is the fruition of one man's obsessive and all consuming hatred of the United States, attained at any cost to human life. The leaking of informants for the U.S. government was particularly damning. These people will (and have been) hunted down by terrorists for aiding the United States government.. Thanks to Assange they now have the specifics. Assange strips away all barriers of safety and leaves exposed thousands of innocents.
Assange has killed dozens of people. He deserves to be brought to trial in the U.S. He must be made an example of so others do not think to do the same thing. The same goes for the "soldier" who gave Wikileaks this information.
@ParadigmPenguin Go on: tell us who these "dozens of people" are - you may conceal their identities to a certain degree, if their families so desire, but please do tell me that it's not something you just made up...
Read the cables that Assange released. They detail the specific names of Afghans and Pakistanis who collaborated with U.S. authorities. Extremists have already taken revenge and killed a number of them. There is much news on the subject.
@ParadigmPenguin I've now trawled through a hundred hits or so based on Afghans+Pakistanis+wikileaks+revenge+killed and can't find anything. Isn't it easier if you start hinting as to where you saw these news stories?
I came here from wikileaks twitter and they said to "Listen very closely." Listen very closely to what? The only thing I can think of is what he said at the end "We'll have to see how it plays out in the British courts" Which seems like it could imply that if Assange is extradited to Sweden the U.S. has plans for him already in place where they will "bring [legal?] action" against him. I suppose that's what we're supposed to be listening for here but I don't know.
USA is blamed not only for committing the most crimes in the world as government. but more for admitting them and trying to stop the people's hero from doing the only thing that's right about it
It is true that Mr.Assange took the path of anarchy to stop the world's fake democracy
This isn't as much as about USA as much about the unfair misuse of power against people by the governments, we are not sheep to be grown up, made money on and killed to sell a few billion-worth-firearms.
any system that takes away people's freedom. is a fuck-up for us as species..
if revealing the truth is DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR COUNTRY then I'd say the US needs to take a good hard look in the mirror to see where the problem really lies
America are just like the EU, they don't like free speech and they'll stop at nothing to make an example of anybody that shows the world just how crooked they themselves are, communists!
Ugh I hate the way that ambassador talks. Why doesn't he just straightforwardly say, "I think it would be rather unprofessional of me to go spouting my opinions on such a sensitive matter. What I can tell you is that the U.S. Government intends to wait for Assange to stand trial in Sweden or the U.K."
Strange that ambassador of the US, a traditionally Anglo-Saxon country to the UK, another Anglo-Saxon country happens to be of Talmudic nationality. What a freakin world we live in.
Nice of him at least that he does not insist on speaking Yiddish.
When sinclair61 says Fuck the USA, what he means is fuck these murdering criminals who've been allowed to take over the country, and fuck the mindless citizen majority which is so easily manipulated by the corrupt mainstream media and Internet shills.
When the vast majority of a country has gone to shit in such a way, it can be easier and more therapeutic to just say fuck that country, rather than spell out, in detail, exactly what you mean.
@sinclair61 It would be better to state fuck the U.S. government. The release of information is not what causes great harm the reason it was a secret caused all the harm. There are many Americans that are just as outraged at this. And no country has clean hands if they hold secrets.
The EU and UN (including US) insist on the access of journalists and human rights monitors to the decisions and actions Middle East (and other) governments wish to keep secret. Meanwhile, those involved in Wikileaks are to be prosecuted for publishing documentation of human rights violations the US wants kept secret. But US Amb to UK says no action has been taken. And Wikileaks donation options are restored. Is the clamp easing up? Secretly, of course.
@gary83uk Yes, that's what I was alluding to. Extremely worrying, It would have been great if the interviewer had called him up on it and asked him to elaborate and explain exactly what he meant by that remark, sadly not. That kind of comment could have been used in an argument against Assange 's extradition.
The interesting point in this clip is at the end when the Ambassador says" We'll have to see how this plays out in the British courts". To my knowledge the only thing being played out in the British courts relating to Assange is the Swedish extradition hearing, which SHOULD be totally unrelated to any possible American action against him. What does he mean by that remark?
In the internet world where you have a world population that are experts on nothing but believe their opinions have a great weight of merit Julian Assange is a dangerous person. The right to know is paramount in keeping oppression by a tyrany in check. The responsibility of the keeper of information must be realized by that entitiy and competancy must be in equal measure to that responsibility. If personal motive is the only characteristic of the revealer of information chaos............
The world is becoming too secretive. There is material which has to, and always will be covered up. That is understandable, but to cover EVERY god damn governmental document is VERY counter-productive. If all of the information about unrest in the middle-east was released to the public pre-9/11, do you think, we the people, could decipher the motives faster and more efficiently than any government agency!
it WAS NOT detrimental and will not be detrimental to this country or the world. if anyone was put in danger because of leaked documents then how about we protect them like we would anyone in the witness protection program? we're the freaking USA. we're powerful. we appreciate Assange and everything he and the rest of the organization has done for us
America, WAKE UP! you voted 'em in, now you cannot allow these ass-clowns to trample on your freedom and your rights. Assange has broken no law and harmed no person - all he did was blow these guys' cover, and now they want to silence him. THEY are the enemies of the people of the USA, and the world, NOT Julian Assange! speak out! call up your Representative - don't let 'em get away with it! it's YOUR rights they're trampling on!
Good words here. Assange didn't leak the documents thus any action against him has no basis in American law, afaik? And that crypto law angle is a sham too. I'm not sure I like the BBC allowing upper elements of the American gov to come on our TV and give their 'personal views' about legal cases which don't exist.
Yay. I like all the dissent here! Use the momentum?
Well... who knows if the Arab uprisings may spread across other regions on the globe... There are more hidden de-facto dictatorial systems than you see on the first glance. Just saying... ;)
For all Americas lip service to Freedom! Free Speech, Free country, Free trade etc etc... they are very good at doing quite the opposite. Slowly but surely the world and also Americans are coming to terms that all is not what it seems.
So, the question is "would you like to see him on US soil to face charges", and the answer was "we'll have to see how it plays out in British courts." Right? Or did he evade the question entirely? Is he saying that if the UK extradite tp Sweden, they will look at having him sent to the States.. or what? Talk about a political side-step...
(Also, note that he says "COULD be detrimental to [the US]". Nothing so far, but potentially, it could be damaging.)
It used to be that you only had to worry about YOUR OWN country suppressing journalistic work. Now thanks to the EU arrest warrant, you now have to worry about EVERY regime in EVERY country.
Ha ha ha: Play dumb, whilst putting "extreme" political and financial pressure on the UK to assure that he is extradited and tried illegally for a crime that was never committed. Fuck the USA
@booksellergirl The American people are the US policy makers. We voted them in, we are the ones that are responsible and it is now our job to set things right. Wake up American citizens!
@HENJAM48 You know I mean your spokespeople, ie: The executive branch of gangsters and liars and thieves running the genocidal administration. Not you, and not your niece. BUT, you are the only people who can change this. By association it is YOUR responsibility.
@sinclair61 I'm not American but my niece is. I'm worried about her redneck-ish tweets, but we so-far manage to bring her back to earth. I know where Assange spent his childhood. He's not completely "The full Quid", and he can see things that aren't there. By the same reasoning he stumbles across many things that are. I regularly petition may Govt via my Federal Representative. (I also tweet the PM)
With a few scattered exceptions - almost all terrorism is from the USA.
This is a claim easily proven - are people scared of the truth? If so I pity them.
cyanideisabitterpill 10 months ago
"At this stage we have brought no action against Mr Assange ...and we'll have to see how it plays out in the British courts".
Ooops. You're waiting to see how it plays out having brought no action?
smhhms2000 1 year ago
Assange is playing with fire no doubt he will get burnt,but he is not the problem,the USA is the main wrongdoer and needs to put it's house in order.
gerrymc57 1 year ago
ppl need to stop ppl who want to take away more of your rights.
yuddda 1 year ago
He will soon be executed, hopefully! Assange is evil and a compulsive liar who think of no one but himself.
ParadigmPenguin 1 year ago
@ParadigmPenguin How can freedom of speech, and transparency, be evil? In releasing this information to the world, surely he is thinking of far more than himself, but of his supporters and other people he feels deserve to know this information. With regards to the execution part of your comment, there must be thousands of people working within the depths of wikileaks, not to mention the people who provide him with information in the first place. If Assange dies, this will not stop.
StevenE93 1 year ago
@StevenE93
This is not freedom of speech. It is the fruition of one man's obsessive and all consuming hatred of the United States, attained at any cost to human life. The leaking of informants for the U.S. government was particularly damning. These people will (and have been) hunted down by terrorists for aiding the United States government.. Thanks to Assange they now have the specifics. Assange strips away all barriers of safety and leaves exposed thousands of innocents.
ParadigmPenguin 1 year ago
@ParadigmPenguin
And you will be eternally condemned for your evil lies.
nir560 1 year ago
@ParadigmPenguin You Tosser.. Get a life, have children, see a movie...or a therapist.
HENJAM48 11 months ago
@HENJAM48
Assange has killed dozens of people. He deserves to be brought to trial in the U.S. He must be made an example of so others do not think to do the same thing. The same goes for the "soldier" who gave Wikileaks this information.
ParadigmPenguin 11 months ago
@ParadigmPenguin Go on: tell us who these "dozens of people" are - you may conceal their identities to a certain degree, if their families so desire, but please do tell me that it's not something you just made up...
fjslfhalfhkdjfh 11 months ago
@fjslfhalfhkdjfh
Read the cables that Assange released. They detail the specific names of Afghans and Pakistanis who collaborated with U.S. authorities. Extremists have already taken revenge and killed a number of them. There is much news on the subject.
ParadigmPenguin 11 months ago
@ParadigmPenguin I've now trawled through a hundred hits or so based on Afghans+Pakistanis+wikileaks+revenge+killed and can't find anything. Isn't it easier if you start hinting as to where you saw these news stories?
fjslfhalfhkdjfh 11 months ago
I came here from wikileaks twitter and they said to "Listen very closely." Listen very closely to what? The only thing I can think of is what he said at the end "We'll have to see how it plays out in the British courts" Which seems like it could imply that if Assange is extradited to Sweden the U.S. has plans for him already in place where they will "bring [legal?] action" against him. I suppose that's what we're supposed to be listening for here but I don't know.
DiwataMan 1 year ago
Ambassadors are not supposed to have personal opinions. How did this guy get his job?
Jesuisquejesuis 1 year ago
USA is blamed not only for committing the most crimes in the world as government. but more for admitting them and trying to stop the people's hero from doing the only thing that's right about it
Dinoraptor101 1 year ago
It is true that Mr.Assange took the path of anarchy to stop the world's fake democracy
This isn't as much as about USA as much about the unfair misuse of power against people by the governments, we are not sheep to be grown up, made money on and killed to sell a few billion-worth-firearms.
any system that takes away people's freedom. is a fuck-up for us as species..
Dinoraptor101 1 year ago
if revealing the truth is DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR COUNTRY then I'd say the US needs to take a good hard look in the mirror to see where the problem really lies
whatevadotbiteme 1 year ago 3
America are just like the EU, they don't like free speech and they'll stop at nothing to make an example of anybody that shows the world just how crooked they themselves are, communists!
bringbackmydemocracy 1 year ago 2
@bringbackmydemocracy THEY'RE FAR MORE WORSE THEN THIS ..
THEY ARE FASCIST!! AND NAZI!!-LIKE!
honestyjones 1 year ago
Ugh I hate the way that ambassador talks. Why doesn't he just straightforwardly say, "I think it would be rather unprofessional of me to go spouting my opinions on such a sensitive matter. What I can tell you is that the U.S. Government intends to wait for Assange to stand trial in Sweden or the U.K."
TomwithOnions 1 year ago
Strange that ambassador of the US, a traditionally Anglo-Saxon country to the UK, another Anglo-Saxon country happens to be of Talmudic nationality. What a freakin world we live in.
Nice of him at least that he does not insist on speaking Yiddish.
DSternoff 1 year ago
Time to release every cable written by Mr. Susman.
marxmarvmi 1 year ago 3
When sinclair61 says Fuck the USA, what he means is fuck these murdering criminals who've been allowed to take over the country, and fuck the mindless citizen majority which is so easily manipulated by the corrupt mainstream media and Internet shills.
When the vast majority of a country has gone to shit in such a way, it can be easier and more therapeutic to just say fuck that country, rather than spell out, in detail, exactly what you mean.
It's certainly better than "God bless the USA".
crestit3645 1 year ago
@crestit3645
Very true. People often forget that it's the leaders of a country that should be held accountable for their actions, not the country itself.
Tweakd3d 1 year ago 2
@sinclair61 It would be better to state fuck the U.S. government. The release of information is not what causes great harm the reason it was a secret caused all the harm. There are many Americans that are just as outraged at this. And no country has clean hands if they hold secrets.
DeltaRomeoPapa 1 year ago 4
The EU and UN (including US) insist on the access of journalists and human rights monitors to the decisions and actions Middle East (and other) governments wish to keep secret. Meanwhile, those involved in Wikileaks are to be prosecuted for publishing documentation of human rights violations the US wants kept secret. But US Amb to UK says no action has been taken. And Wikileaks donation options are restored. Is the clamp easing up? Secretly, of course.
dianasheart 1 year ago 3
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I think this comment from TimeKeeperEnigma bears repeating:
"US better tread lightly or they may see an Uprising on American soil as with other dictatorial nations."
Rest assured, I'll be supporting that movement when it comes.
rhapsodical78 1 year ago
@moonchild678 I know who Julian Assange is. This man mispronounced his name - on purpose?
N4TH4NJ4Y 1 year ago
"We'll have to see how it plays out in the British courts"
Translated: If Britain sends him to Sweden we've got him.
gary83uk 1 year ago 8
@gary83uk Yes, that's what I was alluding to. Extremely worrying, It would have been great if the interviewer had called him up on it and asked him to elaborate and explain exactly what he meant by that remark, sadly not. That kind of comment could have been used in an argument against Assange 's extradition.
exogenesis1000 1 year ago 4
The interesting point in this clip is at the end when the Ambassador says" We'll have to see how this plays out in the British courts". To my knowledge the only thing being played out in the British courts relating to Assange is the Swedish extradition hearing, which SHOULD be totally unrelated to any possible American action against him. What does he mean by that remark?
exogenesis1000 1 year ago 8
just criminals covering over up for other criminals
club213542 1 year ago 4
Louis Susman is a old fuck, he needs to come back and we'll send the UK a diplomat who understands the First fucking Amendment.
MEpianist 1 year ago 4
No pressure? You mean the state department really didn't send those memos over to PayPal, Mastercard, and Bank of America?
MMORPguy 1 year ago 5
In the internet world where you have a world population that are experts on nothing but believe their opinions have a great weight of merit Julian Assange is a dangerous person. The right to know is paramount in keeping oppression by a tyrany in check. The responsibility of the keeper of information must be realized by that entitiy and competancy must be in equal measure to that responsibility. If personal motive is the only characteristic of the revealer of information chaos............
KidSheIeen 1 year ago
and disorder may ensue in the world. And the predictor of that outcome cannot be found. As the task of predicting it is impossible.
KidSheIeen 1 year ago
The world is becoming too secretive. There is material which has to, and always will be covered up. That is understandable, but to cover EVERY god damn governmental document is VERY counter-productive. If all of the information about unrest in the middle-east was released to the public pre-9/11, do you think, we the people, could decipher the motives faster and more efficiently than any government agency!
Cod4Paradox 1 year ago 3
it WAS NOT detrimental and will not be detrimental to this country or the world. if anyone was put in danger because of leaked documents then how about we protect them like we would anyone in the witness protection program? we're the freaking USA. we're powerful. we appreciate Assange and everything he and the rest of the organization has done for us
tiffanihillin 1 year ago 6
watch him say it backwards when cables come out showing with positive spin
lesleyblood1 1 year ago
Yes, it is obviously detrimental for Americans to know the truth about their government lol
intermender 1 year ago 6
When an ambassador gives a "personal view" in public, you can be 100% sure that it's also a governmental view.
funkalunatic 1 year ago 12
WHAT AN UGLE CUNT!!!!!!
glenn1326 1 year ago
ASSANGE IS THEIR PARTNER-Beware of the deception!
MrHOGARES 1 year ago
FAT BULL SHIT ARTIST BLOWS MORE SMOKE-
Nothing new here-
MrHOGARES 1 year ago
Assange "received stole material" ?!!!
eeemotion 1 year ago
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kjigme 1 year ago
America, WAKE UP! you voted 'em in, now you cannot allow these ass-clowns to trample on your freedom and your rights. Assange has broken no law and harmed no person - all he did was blow these guys' cover, and now they want to silence him. THEY are the enemies of the people of the USA, and the world, NOT Julian Assange! speak out! call up your Representative - don't let 'em get away with it! it's YOUR rights they're trampling on!
kjigme 1 year ago 5
who is this Mr Assahn he mentions at 0:59?
N4TH4NJ4Y 1 year ago 2
Good words here. Assange didn't leak the documents thus any action against him has no basis in American law, afaik? And that crypto law angle is a sham too. I'm not sure I like the BBC allowing upper elements of the American gov to come on our TV and give their 'personal views' about legal cases which don't exist.
Yay. I like all the dissent here! Use the momentum?
inflivia 1 year ago 6
Wow, there's something really unusual going on with the US ambassador's voice. I want to look inside is throat.
Saerain 1 year ago 5
Well... who knows if the Arab uprisings may spread across other regions on the globe... There are more hidden de-facto dictatorial systems than you see on the first glance. Just saying... ;)
itekisan 1 year ago 3
I cant stand the American dictatorship.
ryno2085 1 year ago 7
For all Americas lip service to Freedom! Free Speech, Free country, Free trade etc etc... they are very good at doing quite the opposite. Slowly but surely the world and also Americans are coming to terms that all is not what it seems.
antoconno 1 year ago 5
They bring Assange here and the Anonymous in United States will tear that damn prison to the ground to get him out.
TimeKeeperEnigma 1 year ago 7
@TimeKeeperEnigma I will be one of the protester's tearing the prison down, after I tear down the detention center in Quantico.
ForbesFortune 1 year ago 4
US better tread lightly or they may see an Uprising on American soil as with other dictatorial nations.
TimeKeeperEnigma 1 year ago 6
So, the question is "would you like to see him on US soil to face charges", and the answer was "we'll have to see how it plays out in British courts." Right? Or did he evade the question entirely? Is he saying that if the UK extradite tp Sweden, they will look at having him sent to the States.. or what? Talk about a political side-step...
(Also, note that he says "COULD be detrimental to [the US]". Nothing so far, but potentially, it could be damaging.)
MiXueLe 1 year ago
can we plz remind the public that any & all information on wikileaks was POSTED on wikileaks? Assange didnt steal.
TheMattPhoenix 1 year ago
have brought no action against who? mr. assan? mr. hassan? lol. at least he seems to be considering it an issue of freedom of press.
DonPhrostByte 1 year ago
It used to be that you only had to worry about YOUR OWN country suppressing journalistic work. Now thanks to the EU arrest warrant, you now have to worry about EVERY regime in EVERY country.
How long before they go for mainstream media?
0muffins0 1 year ago 3
@0muffins0 not long.
sinclair61 1 year ago
He hasn't done anything wrong, just criminals covering over up for other criminals and trying to make the good guy look bad
godlikeangel 1 year ago 67
Ha ha ha: Play dumb, whilst putting "extreme" political and financial pressure on the UK to assure that he is extradited and tried illegally for a crime that was never committed. Fuck the USA
sinclair61 1 year ago 96
@sinclair61 I'm not sure that I appreciate the F* the USA comment. Hey, I hope you can see the difference between US policy and the American people.
booksellergirl 1 year ago 2
@booksellergirl The American people are the US policy makers. We voted them in, we are the ones that are responsible and it is now our job to set things right. Wake up American citizens!
a207a1 1 year ago 8
@sinclair61Yes I can. Fuck the US criminal executive branch!
sinclair61 1 year ago
@sinclair61 I agree the world is better off the wikileaks but the phrase "fuck USA" doesn't help at all.
griego1583 1 year ago
@sinclair61 Not all of them.. Forest Gump is innocent and so is my niece.
HENJAM48 11 months ago
@HENJAM48 You know I mean your spokespeople, ie: The executive branch of gangsters and liars and thieves running the genocidal administration. Not you, and not your niece. BUT, you are the only people who can change this. By association it is YOUR responsibility.
sinclair61 11 months ago
@sinclair61 I'm not American but my niece is. I'm worried about her redneck-ish tweets, but we so-far manage to bring her back to earth. I know where Assange spent his childhood. He's not completely "The full Quid", and he can see things that aren't there. By the same reasoning he stumbles across many things that are. I regularly petition may Govt via my Federal Representative. (I also tweet the PM)
HENJAM48 11 months ago