Dog killed by wolf in north Idaho, could be growing trend

[subarkin]

Killing wolves being driven by hate, you will ignite more opposition and help to recruit more people willing to undertake new efforts to preserve our Wild America. Your mind is poisoned by hate and greed and you are not hunters as a part of ecosystem. Why do you want to save livestock? You are tryuing to consider even wild deer as your livestock. There are many methods of keeping livestock safe without kiling wolves.

[subarkin]

Interesting fact: similar situation is with Dingo in Australia. Cattle and ship industry lobby is very strong there and they spend money to make Dingo unworthy outlaw animal. A lot of lies and political propaganda. For example, Dingo is mixed and does not deserve any protection. Moreover, even histories of Australian origin breeds of dogs, in which Dingo genetics was used in the beginning, are being doctored with idea to eliminate this fact, because of hate to Dingo.

[Cloudy011]

The animals are changing! Its not going to be fun if we are the hunted. sorry about your dog* i just lost Wonder few months ago I never wanted him out of my sight for 16 years*

[ColomboNinja]

heres an idea....QUIT HUNTING!!! why the hell are hunting for? game? for fun? to stick one of those animals in your wall? and you cry because they are defending themsefls from you by killing your dog...if you had to kill to survive thats one thing but for game? thats just sick and stupid

[ruj1970]

@ColomboNinja Are you suffering from a mental disorder or do you have a large brain injury? Humans are the apex predator. We hunt just as all predators do and that is simply part of nature. If you are against hunting then don't hunt but don't try to force your ideals on others. Sit down and STFU!!!

[ColomboNinja]

@ruj1970 oh dont give me that BS, i know we are natural hunters, but there is no NEED to hunt anymore since there is food in a supermarket already, hunting is for those who dont have money for food and probably dont live in the U.S., or they are stranded out in the middle of nowhere THEN hunting is ok and NATURAL, but when you hunt just for fun and game or to have the head of an animal in your living room, you have mental problems, and I'm the 1 with brain injury? go find something else to do

[ruj1970]

@ColomboNinja Why would I spend over $1000 for a beef that was raised and processed in god knows what kind of conditions when I can spend a few hundred dollars and spend time enjoying the great outdoors and harvest an elk that is 100% organic and process it myself to fill my freezer. Your go to the grocery store argument is nothing but fail just like your life.

[ruj1970]

@ColomboNinja How hypocritical is it that you wolf lovers say there's no need to hunt go to the grocery store instead. Buying beef supports the ranchers that you idiots bitch about because we graze our cattle on public land and kill wolves to protect our cattle. You idiots are the epitome of ignorance. You all need to be culled from the gene pool!

[ColomboNinja]

@ruj1970 omg your so stupid!! you should be cut out from any gene pool we dont need more dumbasses in the world!! you just said it yourself you could just get a cow and without hunting it or some deer and herd them and even harvest in your land without having to go out and hunt animals...one thing is defending yourself from a wolf attack another is going out to hunting it, to different things. plus havent you heard of organic food markets? dawm your stupid

[ruj1970]

@ColomboNinja Are you suffering from a large brain injury? You don't make any sense at all you retard! Why would I go to an organic market when I can harfest an elk for myself? You're so stupid it's astounding.

[OdessiousJenkins]

Smoke a pack a day!

[subarkin]

It is natural to wolves to kill dogs. Do not take your dogs alone, where wolves live. If you are huntiing, you should know about wolves and other prredators. Keep your dog away fom wolves. WOlf is at home there. You are an intruder.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin No, the wolves are the intruders. They released a non native sub species that does not belong here. Now they are dying from our rifles and traps. Suck on that shit wolf lover.

[subarkin]

@ruj1970 Well, some are supposed to die, There is nothing new in this to the wolves, but still more will survive and replenish the loses. Wrong subspecies? What do you know about this? Do you really think wolves were afraid to cross Canada/Idaho/Montana borders? Did they use GPS. Those were the same wolves traveling across these political lines nowing nothing of their existence. Wolves are reintroduced successfully in Norway and they are always in Italy. Both countries have livestock owners.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin Let me guess, you are nothing but Eurotrash? The wolves that were transplanted into the Northern Rockies are a completely different sub species than the native wolf. Every time you post you demonstrate your ignorance!

[subarkin]

@ruj1970 Whatever I may be, but you are ignorant in wolf biology and taxonomy. Wolf individual range is very large, one day hunting trip may cover up to 50 miles. Reintroduction was done under supervision of our well educated biologists. You are no match to them in knowledge of zoology and biology in general. You can shoot well, perhaps, but do not talk science. Wolves do not recognize political borders, only sea, island or very high mountain ridges can limit their genetical exchange.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin Why don't you do your homework you fucking retard! It is scientific fact that the wolves that were here and the ones that were brought here are very different sub species. Every time you post you show your stupidity.

[subarkin]

@ruj1970 This is not a fact. Even if it would be a fact, it does not matter. All wolves in the north have the same ecology, eat the same food, hunt the same way and the same animals. What you say and what you do tarnishes name of a hunter. Time is working against hunting, unfortunately. To solve the problem, you should enjoy managing elks for shooting in specially organized well fenced areas. The reast should stay wild and with all wilidlife, including wolves and other predators.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin It is a fact you fucking moron! Try reading the wolf recovery plan for the northern rockies. Try reading the ESA. You don't know shit you fucking retard! You wouldn't know a fact if it smashed you in the mouth like your boyfriends cock does every night!

[subarkin]

@ruj1970 There is nothing what you can do. Wolf restoration is on the way and you will never be able to roll this program back. What do you mean Eurotrash? Europe is ahead of us in education, health care and quality of products. Why do we like Volvo, Folksvagen and Mercedes? Europeans eat better quality food, which is less tainted by dubious ingredients. We should seriously consider the fact to be competitive in the world.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin We are rolling their numbers back to where they should be with our hunt. Hell I don't even need a tag, I just shoot the cocksuckers and tell fish and game they were threatening my livestock. They don't care anymore, they want them out just like the rest of us.

[subarkin]

@ruj1970 Keep shooting. We will help wolves to come back later on. Apparantly, you do not like to see wild nature as your ancestors saw it. The time will change again and all in wolves favor.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin I will keep shooting and I rarely mis. 

[subarkin]

If you kill wolves, your hands will be forever dirty and you will be a bad guy. You know this and this fact drives you crazy. You do not love our Wild America. The time will show.

[sarahdeal11]

I feel bad for the dog but not the people. I don't agree with them killing bobcats, cougars, and bears.

[BoomerAndMarleyHusky]

@sarahdeal11 I agree. I sure hope they don't start killing wolves like everybody else!

[ruj1970]

@BoomerAndMarleyHusky Oh but we are killing wolves and the hunt is still open. Come to Idaho and kill a few wolves. 

[sarahdeal11]

@ruj1970 I'm such an imbecile, I'm getting a doctoral degree. don't pass judgment. Wolves were here first, just like many other native wildlife that we have killed off (i.e. mountain lions, bears, jaguars, etc). Pretty soon lots of animals will be extinct because of human greed and ignorance. Nature controls itself.

[ruj1970]

@sarahdeal11 Did you really just say that mountain lions, bears and jauars have been killed off? What are you getting your doctorate in, stupidity? humans are as much a part of nature as all animals. We manage the populations of big game to ensure a healthy population year after year and to ensure that we are able to harvest them as they are a natural resource. Let's not even talk about the non native wolf that was released into the Northern Rockies.

[subarkin]

@ruj1970 Natural world, the WIld America, does not need your management. Keep a herd of elks well fenced and protected, manage them and shoot as needed, but leave wild predators alone.

[ruj1970]

@subarkin In one sentence you say nature doesn't need managed then the next you say we need to fence up elk to shoot. You are the dumbest motherfucker ever! Humans are part of nature you fucking retard!! I'll bet your IQ is lower than 5.

[sarahdeal11]

@ruj1970 ugh, I'm done with this conversation. I'm not a redneck animal killer like you. People like you only want to kill the predators so there are more "big game" for you to shoot. You can call me stupid, but you only demonstrate how ignorant you are. Because there are no natural predators of species such as deer in other parts of the country, they are overpopulated and cause car accidents and destruction of fauna, gardens, etc.

[ruj1970]

@sarahdeal11 We have never had an over population of deer or elk here so why don't you come get the wolves and take them to these other parts of the country you speak of? You are the ignorant sack of shit who has no clue to the reality of what is happening here in the Northern Rockies. You have no business telling Idaho how to manage our wildlife. Go suck a dick bitch!!

[ruj1970]

@sarahdeal11 So you would rather their populations are not controled? You are an imbecile.

[xXRockerGirlXx100]

you cant get back that drive to hunt?! what about the loyalty to fucking even hunt with u i agree redneck dog killers hunting ducks and fuking deer and even god damn hogs isnt enough now u what a fucking dog to hunt a bear?! people get killed by them all the time but its ok to let ur fucking dog chase one?! what the hell is worng with these ppl?!

[1NecroSpawn]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 you know nothing about hunting or hunting dogs. Look that stuff up before posting inane comments.

[xXRockerGirlXx100]

@1NecroSpawn i actualy fucking do i have ppl in my family how a bunch of hunting dogs and ive seen them hunt before birds its ok but fucking bear really think that ok?!

[IKillAllWolves]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 DUMB ASS!!! You no notihng of the sport!

[xXRockerGirlXx100]

@IKillAllWolves yes i fucking do dumbass ppl in my family have hunting dogs my favortie dog is a hunting dog but they do birds and shit not fucking bears asshole! i know alot about fucking hunting dogs and the sport so shut ur fucking mouth with saying i dont know what i am talking bout u dont know if i did or not so dont fucking assume shit!

[Haruhikittty]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 There are many different kinds of hunting dogs. The dogs that you are talking about are retrieving dogs! hunting dogs don’t attack bears head on they drive the bears up trees you are very uneducated and stupid you shouldn’t be allowed to speak.

[xXRockerGirlXx100]

@Haruhikittty dude i bet u didnt even know that u probably had to like google it and i should be aloowed to pseak becuz that makes no fucking since u sound stupid but saying drive them up trees really cuz last time i checked bear arent exactally scared of fucking dogs! and theres stuff all the time bout dogs being killed form stupid shit like this ppl who think like u do shouldnt be allowed to have dogs!

[ruj1970]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 My God you have to be the dumbest person on the internet.

[IKillAllWolves]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 Again you Don't know shit!!! You made the Hall of Shame list!

[IKillAllWolves]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 And yes the Dogs you speak of are a breed of Retriever's (bird dog's) The dogs in this Video Are tracking dogs ,, And they look like Walkers to be Exact! I myself run with Ridgeback's.... although the Type of hunting is refered to as Treeing. Hence the name Treeing Walker's. And they always don't tree some time the Bear stand's his ground and will swat at them So the dogs have to be careful thier agility as well as quick manuvering to work as a team to keep the Bear at Bay!

[xXRockerGirlXx100]

@IKillAllWolves and why do u fucking need to hunt bears hunt them ur self i know dogs love to work wheter it s hearding or retreving but that doesnt sound like a natural thing they wanna do or have a drive for hunting bears? really its like wtf? why would u use dogs to do that. why do u even freaking hunt bears? alls u do is waste a bear life by mounting it on a wall of something cuz not alot of ppl fucking eat bears its stupid that u even hunt them unless there over populated

[IKillAllWolves]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 Did you wake up this morning and eat a big bowl of stupid? I rarely Use dogs for Bear! My dogs are for Coon Hunting. All though they will track a Bear too ,,, well one of them will the others are not traind for that! Do you know what they call my hounds.. Lion hound,, Because in aferica they hunt Lions...And Bear meat is Very healthy... Most all game hunters eat what they Kill! Anyone that hunt's bear eats bear!!! I hunt bears Because it's alot of meat In my freezer!!!

[ruj1970]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 And after reading this post it's obvious you are even dumber since the last post.

[IKillAllWolves]

@xXRockerGirlXx100 I am not assuming, Comon tell me how much I dont know About Hunting dogs! Oh yeah Dont forget to throw out those retarded Insult's.. Because you think it makes you look older KID! lmao! Your the UNEDUCATED ONE!

[ParisLoOfficialTV]

I have a solution, stop hunting! it's ridiculous how the dog owners get all emotional about there dogs dying, but feel nothing for the wildlife that they murder. they only feel something for what belongs to them, but as far as killing wildlife it doesn't matter to them. HUNTING IS NOT A SPORT, IN A SPORT BOTH SIDES SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN THE GAME. make the connection!!!!!!!

[McPhersonPatriot]

@ParisLoOfficialTV do you live in idaho or anyother place where wolves are problems, wolves kill for fun! killing is a sport for them! wolves destroy herds of elk or deer just for fun, just because they can, we hunt deer for food, and they make that hard. so we cant hunt wolves who hunt other things for fun? wolves murder,hunters keeps wolves in control and limit what they murder,not tomention people have been killed by wolves, wolves "are in the game".

[ParisLoOfficialTV]

@McPhersonPatriot No i don't live in idaho, but i understand how wolves behave.... they don't kill for fun, wolves kill for food & to protect there family. just like humans would kill to protect there families... keep in mind that humans invade there area to hunt, so what do they expect? thats where wolves live, they have no other place to live, humans knock down trees to build houses and the wildlife is running out of room, they were here first there for we don't have the right to takeover!

[Amunrad]

Hey greengenez, pull that dick out of your ass so that you can fart a decent response. Sorry about your damn luck turdbag!

[ben7551]

well, next time use a pack fighting dogs like pitbull's... I bet wolves will be having hard time getting away from a bite to the neck...lol.

[TheCajunGambit1]

@ben7551 I'd rather use a pack of German Shepherds or Irish Wolfhounds instead. My neighbors Pitbull got killed by a pack of Coyotes and there alot smaller than a wolf lol. I thought Pitbulls are strong Dogs and it couldn't take down a pack of Coyotes all by itself?

[ben7551]

@TheCajunGambit1 lol your funny.... German Shepherds or Irish Wolfhounds are not bread for fighting, coyotes are not for fighting, single coyote vs single pit, no question ask who die first... lol.... next time you use a dog, use the right breed for the job. If guarding, use German Shepherds...lol. Should I believe you? heck no... you got the application wrong.

[TheCajunGambit1]

@ben7551 I know Irish Wolfhounds were not bred for fighting but they can be used to hunt down and kill wolves for hunting. Yea I agree a single pit can kill a single coyote no problem but when theres a pack of Coyotes and one Pitbull then the Pitbulls days are numbered unless there are more Pitbulls against the pack. I shouldn't have said the Coyotes killed my neighbors Pitbull they had to put it down due to its injuries from the attack. Coyotes will do anything if there hungry enough.

[ben7551]

@TheCajunGambit1 Yes, I agree with you, I saw a youtube video of Wolfhound killing wolf.

And yea coyotes are very cunning in luring their pray into death traps.

I was never a hunter, I'm using my dogs to wake me up at in the middle of the night when intruders come closer, and maybe by then I will become a hunter if someone tries to break in, I hope no one does... ;-) lol... you have a great day.. and nice chatting with you... take care.

[TheCajunGambit1]

@ben7551 Yup you too. :) I undrestimated the power of a Pitbull after seeing a scene in the movie White Fang. White Fang  was a Wolf or I should say Wolf Hybrid used in Dog fighting and he defeated every Dog in the fighting arena until he was put up against a Pitbull. Which the Pitbull locked onto his neck and slowly defeated him. Even though White Fang was part Dog he had the strength and fangs of a Wolf so I should say hes equal to a Wolf and a Pitbull defeated White Fang. lol.

[556mm11]

hahahahahahahaha faget



[uJackMeHoff2]

lol

[Amunrad]

Shoot the wolves and put the rifle butt to their pups.

[greengenez1]

@Amunrad i hate peeps like u try to get rid of wolfs cuz u are a stupid fag so shut up

[idahocountryboy51]

I feel for you bud. The only good wolf is a dead one. And to lose a good hound over something we done want is wrong. They are destroying Idaho wildlife. KILL THEM ALL. Hope your still running. Good luck.

[hatsudai69]

you are responsible for the death of your dogs by abusing them as weapons to murder endangered animals, this makes you stupid rednecks DOG KILLERS!

(among many other unpleasant things...)

[NickLikesToSweepPick]

@hatsudai69 You are one dumb motherfucker dude. Have you ever been around a well trained dog? I don't mean house trained, I mean trained to do one of many different types of work. They LOVE what they do. My duck dog looks at the sky for birds to fly over and can barely contain her in the blind when she hears gunfire. That is what she loves to do, retrieve ducks. Also, not of the mentioned animals are endangered. Grow the fuck up and educate yourself.

[hatsudai69]

@NickLikesToSweepPick with wolves around there is no need for hunters

and no need to put dogs in harms way. now you can go back

and fuck your livestock!

[NickLikesToSweepPick]

@hatsudai69 You obviously know nothing about the introduction. As is with all predators, the further away one gets from the equator the bigger the predators are and their behavioral patterns are different. The wolf they illegally introduced to Yellowstone and Idaho is Canus Lupus Occidentalis, native to the Mckenzie Valley in NWT. It outweighs the extinct native wolf by about 80lbs and hunts in packs while the native wolf hunted in pairs for SMALL game. Got anything but childish insults?

[idahochas]

@hatsudai69 actually, the dogs are used as trackers....you ignorant fucking democrat. dont you have a tree to hug somewhere? thank god for us republicans. fucking lefties are nothing but bleeding heart irrational fools. no common sense when it comes to these types of issues. where do you live by the way? i bet its nowhere near wolf country. so with that being said, SHUT THE FUCK UP. you have no first hand knowledge or experiences, so your opinions mean jack shit. end of story.

[hatsudai69]

@idahochas thanks for exposing yourself and helping my case!

[idahochas]

@hatsudai69 ha ha ha. you have no case. you're a democrat. no one takes you seriously. but keep on keepin' on dipshit.

[ShabazzAllah1]

Wolves do the same thing to Coyotes, it's natural for one predetor to try and elimenate another predetor from competing for the limited food supply in the area. Coyotes will kill wolf pups in the dean if they have a chance. These domesticated dogs have no chance with wolves or coyotes out in the wild. The people that live way out in the very rural areas should leave the animals alone and stop hunting for fun using military guns on defenceless animals they don't even eat. What a waste of life.

[NickLikesToSweepPick]

@ShabazzAllah1 The only time you will see a hunter not eat his kill is in the most isolated incidences, it is in fact illegal not to utilize all of the meat from these kills in most states. Hunting is not about "fun," in these "rural areas" that, for some reason, threaten you suburbanites and city dwellers so much. It is most often for a healthy source of meat that doesn't come from a factory farm. If you are against hunting and are not vegan you have no right to shit on hunting. Fuck off.

[MrSbc327]

this happens alot more than people hear of. wont be long before they pack off a kid. i find wolf tracks within 200 yards of my house all the time and thats within 400 yards of a bus stop. hopefully it they will just get a liberal while jogging or snow shoeing

[6gipps]

there's a lot of emotion in the comments on this page

[aky19832001]

Why is this suprising to people. I dont understand. Dogs are preditors as are wolf. Jake was weaker than the wolf and got killed.

You know what the hell you need to implement into hunting dogs, 1-wear a neck and body vest that has spikes

2-Have at least 2-3 mastiff like breeds along with the pack. My friend has a Kangel implemented into this pack, and this Lone kangal has killed a wolf before.

[buckskin3030]

Just pack a pistol and take charge like we do in Oregon.

[a92123]

get a bigger dog.

[CoalLovesStan]

Well maybe he shouldn't of been fucking hunting where there are wolves present. Its obvious that tey were only protecting their territory. No wonder wolves can be so aggressive at times. Its because your hunting them! Fucking sick-ass americans. Seriously, if you stop maybe they'll stop to. Idiots. Go DIE in Hell

[kriteekme]

@CoalLovesStan

"Seriously, if you stop maybe they'll stop to. Idiots. Go DIE in Hell"...says the stupid european.

Go drink some tea you pussy. haha.

[KX250rider184]

@CoalLovesStan wow fucker you got some nerve you really do i hope a wolf kills your ass then while hes ripping you to pieces you might think... hmmmm... i shoulda hunted the bitch and killed it b4 he killed me

[naamhier]

@CoalLovesStan you're a frickin idiot. :p

[wolfforce58205]

Man, poor dog =( Well, dogs, I suppose.

[pablobrenda76]

My suggestion is for these people to get some real shepards.

Kangal are maybe the best for that Job,65-80 kg dogs that work in team and are specialized in wild life.

You dont need a fighting dog like Presa Canario for example because its not working as a team..if it sees a wolf then it will go for the wolf and this is the mistake!!It can kill in 5 minutes a wolf but not a pack of them.Wolfs 80% work in teams and are clever animals!!

No need for killings..just protection!!Respect the wild life!

[use2slam2]

time to introduce a couple Sarplaninac's to your hound pack. i feel sorry for any wolf that comes across 2-3 of these. you may also want to look into a couple Caucasian Ovcharka's, Alabai or Kangals.

[rksu747]

Insanely ironic that this guy would be crying about losing his "innocent' dog! These morons hunt for sport. Why should the wolves sit around and wait to be slaughtered?

[EmoBabe2234]

go wolves!!! do you know how many wolves are inhumanly killed because owners get their dogs to kill them?!! the dog was probably harrassing the wolf. a pack would do alote more damage. btw

[Eaglecreekbrewer]

@EmoBabe2234 Which shows just exactly what a complete moron you really are, do you petards ever get any facts before spewing garbage out of your piehole?

Your name suits you....just another emotionally intoxicated idiot.

[EmoBabe2234]

@Eaglecreekbrewer dick just cause im emo dont mean shit! fking prick!

[xxxAirmidxxx]

@EmoBabe2234 No the wolf probably saw the dog as easy kill and went for it. I bet you're the type of person that would let your parents or any other kinsmen die in order to rescue a dying fish.....

[TheGodclouD]

FUCK THAT REALLY SAD I AM SO SORRY

[TheGodclouD]

FUCK

[NoDrunkDrivers]

Old news.

[BruceH59]

Thanks to the evil vile Wolf cult playing Michael Vic they get to cheer for the wolves when dogs are slaughtered by their champion the wolves. What a bunch of sick twisted perverted people.

[bulydawg]

thats the risks you take when you hunt anywhere,unfortunately these things happen.the owner of the dog needs to keep his chin up and carry on doing what he's doing.and be happy his dog got killed out in the field,not run over or poisened or something crap like that.if i was him i would put a bait station in place somewhere with some mates then shoot the wolves when they turn up,the authorities dont need to know.

[jebustjr]

Are you not allowed to shoot wolves when they attack your pet there?

[BruceH59]

@jebustjr Of course not the evil Wolf cult wants the wolves protected so they can keep killing dogs. Then like sick twisted Michael vic Wannabe they spread their cancer everywhere saying too bad your dog die the wolves own the woods.

[codyfegely]

@BruceH59 hehe u sicko u wildlhating hatin nazi bruce hemming cowardly man nazi worshipping lunatic

[MrMorphed]

Big problem is these wolves are non native specie ILLEGALLY introduced by the very people we pay to protect our herds, live stock and hunting rights. Sanderson, these wolves made the few remaining resident wolves extinct and will be making many more animals extinct as well. I think we should hunt/kill more than just wolves, as the penalty for treason is_____________ . Time to man up fellow hunters and stop following treasonous laws like these and take matters into our own hands.

[johnjohn222244]

kill every wolf you see in idaho they pieces of crap!

[ChosenTV09]

Man that blows. I Have a Kangal and he's 190lbs of brute strength and idk if he could face a entire pack let alone a 50lb hounds. So sad :(

[kniveznor1]

its sad, but thats the wild for you, there are risks going into places where bears and wolves are. thats like blaming someone for shooting a wolf if it came into a school filled with kids. it is sad tho, i would be heart broken if one of my dogs was killed by a wolf.

[sanderson78]

awesome!!! I mean too bad his dog died but that means the wolf population is back on the rise after near extinction

[naamhier]

@sanderson78 are you shitting me? those things reproduce like fucking rabbits

[cdamauser1963]

@sanderson78 your an assclown