@latinopomerano i answered your question now your turn,What compelled you to think I was suggesting other Argentines, when i CLEARLY stated BA mayor to you?
@ashyk72 that's not a clear question and rather rhetoric. But if you like to make up your point that you had not intended to generalize on this irrelevant issue, I have no problems to acknowledge that
@latinopomerano you still havent answered the question just another deflecting opinion even though i have just told you i stated BA mayor, so please instead of accusing me over what i havent said, answer my one and only question? its simple my question could not be more clear,.
What compelled you to think I was suggesting other Argentines, when i CLEARLY stated BA mayor to you? for the third time of asking
@latinopomerano my frien UK does not have to do anything firstly, Malvinas wherever that is not my issue, this is about THE FALKLANDS, and always will be, have a bit more respect they have been there longer than Argentina has been a shithole,dictatorship of a country, even the BA mayor tells his own government they are not a democracy, how do you argue with that?
@ashyk72 Are you referring to MACRI?? He is archtype of US and Zionist henchman, he's backed up by foreigners who filled his pockets with money, and he does nothing else but enforcing the neocon agenda, like selling off Patagonia to Gringos.
So what is the CITY OF LONDON jurisdiction? Btw., you still have a monarchy, no parliament in Scotland until recently, crown colonies....
@latinopomerano regardless what you think is real, the FACT remains that is he is the appointed mayor to the people of BA by the people is he not?,
being the Mayor of Argentinas capital makes it all the more significant for that very reason, as for jurisdiction i never suggested once he spoke for other Argentines,that was your assumption, was it not?
which leads me to my question, What on earth made you think I was suggesting other Argentines, when i CLEARLY stated BA mayor?
@ashyk72 look up the discussion here. Malvinas were not discovered by Brits in 1690, in 1745 Spain protessted against plans to establish a brit. colony on Malvinas and stated they belong to Buenos Aires, Brits. accepted the protest. In 1764 there was first French colony that ceded to Buenos Aires. Brits came with CLANDESTINE expedition to Malvinas in 1765 to stir up conflict, they attacked Buenos Aires several times and were defeated. Brits came back and deported Arg. from Malvinas in 1833
@latinopomerano unfortunatley you are correct on your first sentence,"Malvinas were not discovered by Brits in 1690" let me explain why in reality 1590s islands founded by Richard Hawkins, 1690 landing by British captain John Strong etc.. but soverignty will never be discussed in reality as it has no need to be, Falklanders no there past.
no matter how you copy and paste your twisted view on history. non starter im afraid
if winston churchill was alive he would say, never before in human conflict as a country asked for another slap., think not what your country can do for you, think how much your love to give these arges another kicking
the Argies who believe they can con a country like China into becoming involved shows the levels they are prepared to go,they would be wise to go and study Africa where many have created a special relationship with China and the costs involved.
@Oder1001 China won't become involved directly, they will sell the weapons for a good price and provide some satellite information with the Russians. EU is in a crisis, UK does not really participate in it, only to bully Germany.You're more attached to the so called commonwealth. But Spain has ties to Latin America, Argentina is very Italian and there's a strong multi-million axis population all over SA. No one is supporting you, this will be waterloo for anglo zionist hawks
@latinopomerano well we do have some very serious problems in the EU, you are aware of your oustanding debt to the US alone runs into $40 billion which Argentina is refusing to pay and if you count the rest of it your finances its worse than Greece or Portugal. The Chinese like cash up front for all their communist propoganda the are Capitalists in the closet and by the end of 2025 the biggest free market in the world don`t be to sure they will follow the Argentina model to peace and prosperity
@latinopomerano China is interested in making money in the EU just recently the Chinese president offered to buy up a huge amout of Greece's debt as Europe is China main market even more important than the US market, forget this idea that China will come to your rescue and save the Falklands for Argentina they will never sell you weapons that will make a serious threat to the UK or Europe. to doe so will undermine their own economy.
@Oder1001 Have you ever heard of BRIC? It's the new alliance against Anglos with Brasil. Lots of confrontation between Brasil and USA. Remember, you violated treaties with Russia and pointing missiles on them. Don't think you are the only one with weapons anymore, battle ships are more vulnerable than ever. You were colonyzing India, killing millions of them, Churchill stole their food in ww2 with another starvation holocaust there.
@latinopomerano Oh I've heard of BRIC, though clearly you haven't. BRIC is no 'alliance', its merely a grouping of countries with similar types of economies.
Though clearly your outrageous and ignorant claims show you have absolutely no knowledge of either history or current affairs.
@alexsau91 BRIC is maybe not a formal alliance but it exists because all this G7 and Bilderberg clubs are for Anglozionists only. UK is rotten and isolated, times are changing and all your bombed friends will kick you in the ass sooner or later.
@latinopomerano Isolated? The UK is a member state of the most advanced political and economic union that exists; namely the EU. As well as the Commonwealth of Nations, the Council of Europe, G20, G7, NATO and is a leading member of the IMF, WTO and World Bank, and one of only 5 permanently members of the UN security council. Whilst transatlantic disputes happen, it is also the closest ally to the USA.
@latinopomerano you really are delusional Russia had the biggest arsenal pointed at Europe for years, they had so many, the only option the west had would be an immediate nuclear retaliatory strike, I don't know what they teach you in your part of the world. HMS Dauntless is upsetting your president because of the ship presence in the Falklands if you have the capability to remove the ship the question is why don`t you?
@Oder1001 UK and US ALWAYS violate contracts. They're militarising East Europe, while agreements are they should be demilitarised. On Malvinas, UK militarises and extend sea borders. US and UK are invading Muslim countries and threat Iran, they eliminate Palestine. This goes on worldwide since centuries.
@latinopomerano UK and US ALWAYS violate contracts.? you are aware Argentina has violated $40 Billion worth of loans and contracts from the US you clearly have a one sided view of things, UK militarises the islands because of Argentine hostility and the increasing rhetoric to the point of confrontation the Brits did not invade the Falklands Argentina did
@Oder1001 There is a lot views that mask their true intentions by starting out as pro argentine opinions based on mis-information to try and suck you in, then disturbingly,quickly turns to a more sinister, anti-west rant, their main mission, Iraq,Iran,afghanistan,zionist,anti UK & US,etc.... makes you wonder who is really on the otherside of that conversation.
@ashyk72 your aggressions go on worldwide, isn't the globalist agenda pushed by you? The majority of world population opposes this, and yes it's anti-western rant, right so. Malvinas were in the delimitation of the recognised Spanish discoveries, they're in the vicinity of SA under continental shelf law. Historically,Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and French agree on this. Brit. came to claim SA territory and control Cap Horn, and not as romantic sheep farmers on remote island.
@latinopomerano "Brit came to claim SA territory and control Cap Horn, and not as romantic sheep farmers on remote island."Well the facts are"the Brits did not control Cape Horn" they are 3000 sheep farmers on those remote islands.that's the reality delimitation by who?A Spanish Pope who gave his countrymen hereditary ownership over lands which was not his to give when the Portuguese found out how unfair he changed the demarcation line,the Pope was much a Conquistador as the criminal Pizarro
@latinopomerano seen as you wont or cant answer my original question as it would involve apologizing i will end this conversation.
as i thought "Global Agenda" so it isnt about The Falklands, just another excuse to have an "anti-western rant", as you admited. as for your real agenda, well personally i hope your cause, regardless of how twisted gets revealed for what it is a huge pile of poisoned shit no doubt like your government.
@ashyk72 Agreed he has not really answered any question he retires to his well rehearsed anti stance just like the North Koreans "it`s everyone else fault", no wonder the world does not take them seriously.They have some distance to go to reach political maturity,dealing with truth seems to be a fundamental problem also.
Brits always tried to conquer SA but failed, look up Maitland plan.
Pizarro and the like were not wose than Brit. slavers. At the end of the 18th century, the church was supporting Latin independence, and the church never promoted slavery.
Compare Guatemala with Belize. and the Brit. enclaves in Nicaragua and Honduras in the east with the rest of the country. All of Latin America would be like Jamaica if British had succeeded.
@latinopomerano i rest my case preprogrammed re-written anti-west history with an archaic rhetoric twist, i doubt it is even a human, or somebody following an auto cue on what too say either way its not human.
@latinopomerano Spanish colonists mostly men had liaisons with Amerindian women.European women at the time did not travel to the Americas,their children were mixed race.A Criollo was a person of full Spanish descent,born in the New World as opposed to Spain.Criollos were the offspring of two Peninsulares born in the New World, or of a Castizo parent and one Peninsular or Criollo parent.Criollo was the term to describe the ethnic make up of the populace not its status as citizen or subject .
@latinopomerano the people of Spanish territories were Spanish citizens/subjects ,Criollos is similar to the term colonial as you Argentines remind the UK
constantly, the Falklands islanders are British just like the Criollos are Spanish
@Oder1001 Who said Anglos were not involved in Vietnam. Look up "Britain's small wars" in google, with such cute wars as 'hunting the Mau Mau'. Like in SA, you were bullying in SE Asia. It's always the same ugly queen as head of state of the evil ones.
@latinopomerano I an still waiting on your answer about Spanish colonies and the people there not being Spanish at the time of empire. Yes Australians fought in Vietnam and Yes they are British subjects the decision was made in Australia not London what does that tell you? as for the Mau Mau they were treated much better than Argentina treated their native people.
@Oder1001 The first Span. who arrived in the Americas were driven by greed for gold, they were not acting on behalf of Spain. Spain was involved in Christianisation and urbanisation, where locals were integrated and the Span. mixed with them (only few Span. women ever arrived). The colonies were self maintained AND NOT SPAN. OUTPOSTS. At the end of 18th century, they were becoming indep. (first ever), look up Bolivar. Arg. and Mex. fought of Brit. and Fra., against white domination.
@latinopomerano that will not break either the islanders or the British, Spain tried some thing very similar and had the opposite effect which lasted 16 years or so. China is not going to have war with Europe with its single biggest customer in the world and China`s No 1 market. the islands are an associate state to the EU which means if the UK can not defend the islands the EU are obligated to do so. Spain Italy and Germany are members of the EU and will up hold its EU commitments.
@latinopomerano you do understand that you can only restrict flights through Argentine air space? the Brits can fly round your air space and if you step outside your air space to prevent aircraft flying to the islands the Brits while be legally justified in shooting down Argentine aircraft that interferes with its aircraft in international airspace, by all means prohibit flights over your territory, but do not interfere with aircraft outside it.
@latinopomerano does that also mean Chile will prevent British aircraft flying to and fro the islands? I think not there is a number of people from Chile that work on the islands I wonder if Chile is going to make their own people unemployed to keep Argentina happy?
bear in mind if the oil comes on line there will be vasts amount of work available, if Argentina does not see sense a come to a working relationship with the islanders, then the work and the profits go to Chile.
If China decided to support Argentina in a war against the UK in the Falklands, the entire membership of NATO would be arrayed against it. China and Argentina couldn't even come close to achieving victory over the UK, France, Germany, USA, Spain, Turkey, Canada.
Put simply, China would never take such action that would go beyond the USSR ever went in the Cold War.
And with the forces of the western world against them, would Brazil and co, continue supporting Argentina?
@latinopomerano France Italy Germany for a number of strategic reason will not split European harmony by supporting Argentina in any future conflict, you make a mistake, as for the US being neutral that`s a bigger boost for Argentina, but it means very little to the Brits and we won`t listen to them on the Falklands only the islanders we listen to, but feel free to supply Argentinian troops in the US next war I am sure they will appreciate your support. who will end NATO? not China.
France is the UK's greatest supporter, as France has similar issues. And Spain, Italy and Germany are all signatories of the Treaty of Lisbon - which recognised the UK's claim of the Island. As such not only is the Falklands an overseas territory of the UK, it is an 'Special Overseas Territory' of the EU.
And the USA has not declared neutrality, the current administration is just pushing for talks. They fully backed the UK in the last war.
@alexsau91 People on the street know nothing about this treaty, they'll never support it. Although NATO is killing in Muslim countries, the people other than Anglos en Europe are against it. This just shows your wickedness because otherwise your blocking everything in Europe and only signed this treaty with dumping your dirty past as problems to more decent countries who get fooled once again by your zionist practices.
@latinopomerano Please do not pretend to know about the Treaty of Lisbon and the European people's feeling on it. You don't.
Perhaps if you want to research wickedness you might want to look at the Argentine Dirty War for horrific crimes committed by your country.
At the same time you should check the definition of Zionism; which is an ultra-nationalist Jewish ideology. The nations of the EU are Christian, not Zionists, with it's two leading military members favouring Palestine over Israel.
@alexsau91 No, I do not pretend to know about that contract? wasn't it first called constitution, then rejected by the ppl, why it was renamed and then enforced unilaterally. Nobody knows about this contract, nevertheless can it have authority for SA territory.
The Treaty of Lisbon replaced numerous treaties, including the Constitution for Europe, though this was not because it was rejected by the people, but because it needed updating. The Treaty was not forced 'unilaterally' on it's members, each member state had to agree to it before it was ratified.
A great majority have heard of the Treaty. As I said, do not speak for the European people and do not pretend to know their minds.
@alexsau91 even if we disagree on this: the constitution was rejected by vote in Ireland, Netherlands and France with more countries rejecting it. The exactly same paper with some minor changes was then renamed and pulled through the pipeline ridiculing the public vote. Just my view and opinion and probably that of many if not most in Europe.
@latinopomerano Since it was ratified, every country agreed to it. Though France and the Netherlands disagreed with some aspects, and the Irish electorate originally voted against it. After various amendments it was signed by all members, with the Irish public voting in favour. Though this is scarcely difference to any law, bill etc that any national government imposes.
General opposition is tepid. Anti-EU parties exist all across Europe, though very few are electorally successful.
@alexsau91 AGAIN: the military dictatorship in Argentina was installed by USA. They always replaced the elected peronist governments with henchman of the anglozionist agenda. Pinochet WHO IS YOUR FRIEND was supporter of US/UK and on CIA paylist, like the US puppets in Argentina.
Those campaigns were mainly in Chile, and they were in connection with conflicts with the Mapuche. The extent of the Mapuches killed in Argentina is still subject of discussion, and I don't defend that. It is true that Mapuches were/are subdued, and there are still conflicts in the South of Argentina. However, indigenous were always able to integrate into SA society. USA, South Africa, Australia have killed much more.
@Oder1001 no one knew it was about oil in the those days-it was about power projection. But in the 1980s it became more about oil eventhough the technology or price did not justify deep exploration. But, the future potential (perhaps now) with oil exploration is there.
@good2goskee one can equally argue that it was Argentina`s invasion in 82 changed the British Government policy at that time was to let go the islands slowly to the Argentine, one they had taken the islands by force killed any policy the uk government had, now it was to let the islanders make their own choice,bad call by Argentina. with oil it merely aggravates the situation, if the oil works out the financial cost of defending the islands will disappear.
Its time for the UK to invade Argentina, Captain Mainwaring and his crack Walmington-On-Sea detachment should have it all wrapped up in time to get back for drill practice in the church hall! Private Godfrey, expert marksman at 5 yards with his trusted 303 will have personal responsibility to offer the transvestite Argentinian President some of sister Dollys cakes just before shooting her in her testicles!!
Before ww2 you let Poland incorporate Danzig and suppress the population, which was against the statutes. France and Britain had declared war to Germany, Britain tried first to enter into Norway, Czechoslovakia was not invaded. Your point is, Malvinas can't be Argentina whatever of, because there is a small Anglo population. It was Danzig will to be incorporated into Germany, they were under boycott by Poland. They didn't want to be a "free city" as it was thought in the treaty of Versailles.
What I find unbelievable is that we're still giving aid to Argentina!! The UK pays this poor, third world and backwards country £450 million a year in aid!!! Why do we still give them aid?
@AmboGuy When it comes to making a buck, the British are always there, at present 20% of all foreign investment in Argentina is British and more substantial, Yes one fifth all the Aid.The £450 million through the IMF is chicken feed over 12 years. The US is upset with them because the refuse to pay the $40 Billion for previous loans.
Wrong buddy the British and French used no more than 20 aircraft over several months hitting Gaddafi's military hardware, the RAF and the French air force have have over 500 front line combat aircraft between them and that's after the defence cuts. China will not seek confrontation with the UK for Argentina as that would become a very serious matter indeed and consequences Argentina would not escape from it would be very unwise to promote such at situation.
@latinopomerano To my knowledge, that was in 1807, during a war between Britain and Spain, didn't the war of independance start in 1810? Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
Yes their best record was against their own people in the 70s/80s, killed thousands hardly any losses for the military.1833 when the Brits kicked out all 15 soldiers planted there by the Spanish colony of the United provinces,1810 they won independence because the Spanish would not contest it, they have provoked war with every neighbouring country since, but their greatest achievement over 30 000 of their own civilian missing, impressive!
@Oder1001 Ok, thanks for that. I heard that the Spanish were otherwise engaged in the Peninsula War. Did the Spanish abandon Argentina (due to the Peninsula war)? If that is the case, who were the 'Argentinians' actually fighting? Surely the bulk of the Spanish forces were otherwise engaged? I gather by your info that the Argentinian forces are greatly respected.
@mollymoo71 the Spanish did not oppose directly any of the colonies in SA as Napoleon had set his brother on the Spanish throne and the colonies were not about taken orders from a Frenchman,however the Spanish did not recognise Argentina till1859 their argument that they inherited the islands from Spain are some what dubious at best.Spain finally gave up its clams in SA around 1870s,No logic in the case they could inherit before Spain recognised Argentina as a state Spain left the islands in1811
@Oder100 So then how comes that the rest of the world, in particular SA countries are supporting Argentina? You started WW2 by denying Danzig their right of self determination, you do the same in Palestina, you're killing Muslims and invade their countries, you finally returned the stone of destiny. Argentinas claims are well founded, whether you like it or not or be able to comprehend it or not. UK, USA, "Israel" are scumbags of the world, USA will lose to Mexico too, because we rule.
@latinopomerano Danzig was semi autonomous state prior to 1939 and part of Poland Germany invaded, both the UK and France had a defence agreement with Poland and declared war on Germany. When Palestinians learn to love their children more and hate the Jews less they will have peace. As for the Stone of Destiny Edward the first never got his hands on the original. if Argentina`s claims are legitimate take it to ICJ and get full international acknowledged legal verdict. Your Gov refuses
@mollymoo71 they actually murdered their own people, the neighboring countries have since the time of Argentina coming into existence suffered at the wars provoked by the Argentines, many of the British troops from 82 said they fought well and were quite good just badly led so they had some respect from one enemy they started war with.
@Oder1001 the 30.000 figure is vastly exaggerated. Please note that the military dictatorship in Argentina was installed by US, they did not want the peronist (seen as nazi) agenda of independence and social economy. US intervention polarized the country. There were lots of communists in SA and factual civil war. USA and UK killed communists worldwide, it's hypocrite to blame this on Argentine while US and UK was involved in these killings, not to mention Vietnam.
@latinopomerano Yes I get the picture it was every ones fault but not Argentina the figure was taken from Argentine organisation who are investigating Argentina`s Dirty War.the UK was not involved in the Vietnam war, and only went to war when Argentina invaded the Falklands.When leaders of a country are in power elected or not they have the responsibility for their actions,Germany had Nazis caused WW2 and ultimately the destruction of Germany,Argentina came off lightly in comparison
Danzig was formally a free city, but you get the point if you say it was part of Poland. You should know that Poland was about to incorporate it and had an illegal military presence there. Poland also expelled about 2 mill. Germans that came to Poland after ww1 against their will, you should know their was no Polish majority in any territory they got. Poland wanted war with British and french guarantee, and they violated the statutes for Danzig which caused the ultimatum.
@latinopomerano Yes Hilter just wanted Danzig for peace to reign in Europe, so why was his armies in Holland, Belgium, France, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Russia, Norway. Greece Italy and the rest, none of these were in Poland. It was your country that opened its doors to the Nazis`s giving the impression to the world you approved and condone their behaviour, your country`s image is one created by yourselves.
@latinopomerano It was about to be incorporated into Poland so Hitler incorporated it into Germany this was some how more right to you? one is judged by actions if Poland had incorporated it would have been wrong, Hitler did and he was wrong.. eg two wrongs( or supposed wrongs) don`t make right... understand?
@Oder1001 Btw., at the Congress of Vienna in 1815 you prevented Poland from becoming independent against the will of Prussia and Russia. You refused talks about establishing Poland in its ethnic boundaries, that's why both Russia and Germany invaded Poland. Poland had a military dictatorship and attacked all of its neighbors in the 1920 with US/UK support. After Hitler had conquered Poland, he tried to negotiate about borders, but you refused any talks about a just peace.
@latinopomerano Hitler new he would have a war he did not just take Danzig he took Poland that made the situation worse then When Japan attacked Pearl harbour he declared war on the US.
@Oder1001 Learn about the provoked attacked on Pearl Harbour. Btw., US had embargo on Jap, what is act of war. Hawaii was occuped by US, Ger had pact with Jap and US needed a pretext to openly join the war. Hitler had to take Poland because of a 600.000+ army to eliminate, he then tried AGAIN to negotiate. And why did UK leave Poland to Soviets? Becaus they didn't like ANY new country in Europ or else become independent. UK killed and expelled 20 mill. Germ. and let communism into Eur.
@littlelordfauntleroy no. Most so called Nazis who came to Argentina, where low to medium ranks. Btw., they lived unharmed in Germany until the 1950ies. In the 1940ies, ppl did not know about a holocaust. All that frenzy started later.
@Oder1001 the Argentinian military dictatorship was similar to Pinochet, and many others that US/UK supported. The scumbag Pinochet was close to Thatcher. As long as a Saudi Prince, a Chilean or whoever dictator supports USA, you never complain and shout Nazi or terrorist.
@latinopomerano supported Pinochet? why because they bought British military equipment ? so did Argentina that was support also. the reality is the Brits could do nothing about dictatorships anywhere in SA however it was Argentina that attacked the British that makes Argentina the baddie at the same time you threatened war against Chile. it is your own squabbling Argentine nature to provoke war with your neighbours as you have done with every one of them since Argentina existed.
@latinopomerano Still it shows what a poor backwards country you are eh?? Receiving handouts from another country! You must feel quite ashamed about that!!!!
@latinopomerano the majority in the UK would not support a military dictatorships however the when one is attacked you would use any alliance you find even dictators Spain had Franco for years and all had to deal with him in Europe he survived because he was clever enough to know not to join Hitler and stayed out of the war,all SA dictators were treated the same that changed when Argentina attacked you made the islanders fear you never a good impression to give, work at being friends with them.
@Oder1001 Shortly before he died, Pinochet came to UK. You always support dictators and terrorists, and even install them. Terrorists that try to assassinate Hugo Chavez live protected in USA.
@latinopomerano you seem to miss the point Argentina made themselves the enemy of both the UK and Chile as Churchill said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" you may not like it but that's how it works he was here for medical treatment, even in this country we have to treat the sick regardless of their past, Poland's borders over the last 200 years have changed many times, whatever happened at it all the signatories agreed to it England did nothing on its own.
@Oder1001 Apparently, Argentina has a history of claiming Islands which are not their's. One of the reasons Chile supported the UK in the Falklands is because Argentina was laying claim to the Picton, Lennox and Nueva Islands in the Beagle Channel. Islands which are internationally recognised as Chilean. Apparently a war between the two was narrowly avoided in 1978.....cheeky!!
@latinopomerano Read my comment regarding the Picton, Lennox and Nueva Islands. Once again, you are rebuking people that you attack. Read up on the Beagle Conflict, then tell me your country isn't an aggressor.
@mollymoo71 Argentina is the avantgarde of freeing Latinos together with our fellow Mexican friends who suffer US occupation. The milit. dictatorship in Arg. was US installed, the conflict about the islands a dispute between Chile and Argentina. To explain that, is not possible here, but it has to do with Chilean politics in the region. Anyway, the conflict is over, and Chile wants you out of Malvinas, pirates.
@latinopomerano The Beagle Conflict is yet another example of Argentina's aggressive ways, not respecting international law or the rights of the population. How colonial is that? read a few more books boy. Oh, and to call an English man a pirate is actually a compliment.
@mollymoo71 UK was supporting the scumbag Pinochet and installing spying equipment in Chile. hahaha calling an English sucker a pirate is a compliment, what? Because they're even worse than that???
@latinopomerano Oh God yeah, of course we are. That's why we protect the interests of our people who need to be protected from aggressive nations who wish to force their rule upon others who don't want it. We fight against countries who illegally blockade fishing vessels, board them illegally, ban cruise ships from their ports and generally try to make political statements by hurting innocent people. Oh yeah we're worse than pirates.
@latinopomerano and Argentinians were supporting the scumbag junta and if memory serves me correctly Pinochet like the dictator Argentina had was also taken to court in Chile. so no better or worse than any one else you will just have to get used to the fact Argentina isn't any more special than any another country.
@latinopomerano Chile can say what the please to keep the Argentinians from moaning but I suspect given your country`s aggressive history towards it, they rightly would not put faith in Argentina
@Oder1001 Chile had no friends in SA until recently. They have a massive unsettled conflict with Peru and Bolivia, so why you're not upset about that? But now, relations are better. Don't try to exploit on internal conflicts and intervene in the matters of sovereign nations for your sinister pirate acts. SA stands united against your colonialism, you have NO support on you Malvinas .
@latinopomerano SA stand united against argentina .. do you want to know more? have no doubts that you will reap the whirwind for your trouble making ways.
@latinopomerano well given the quality of the people round them its so bad its better not to take them as friends. Why would I be upset? Latin America is one revolution after another, and please man Bolivia? isn't that the country that's had 174 revolutions in 168 years revolutions are a sporting event there.
@latinopomerano you're an obsessive xenophobe with some form of massive emotional instability. Dont think that you speak for anyone other than yourself.
@latinopomerano its called Patagonia the Pacification of the dessert between 1820 to completion in 1888. where mass murder genocide and the destruction of the native peoples.
Uk, "Israel" and US-Anglos, you're the most hated on the planet in surveys, fucking serial murderers. Argentina is true democracy and fought with their blood Anglo-invasions, Argentina first independent nation in South America after they prevented Anglo take over and defeated Anglo army two times. Anglos deported Argentinians from Malvinas in 1833, before it was Spanish belonging to Buenos Aires that became legally Argentina. Everyone who knows facts about Malvinas supports Argentina.
Britian may not have a carrier task force anymore but it still retains a cutting edge competant battle hardened military. Argentina still has the same kit from the 80s.
Ah Argentina, that bastion of democracy. The country who inveded the peaceful Falklands and commited war crimes. Argentina that well known safe haven for nazi war criminals and is now in league with the chinease.
So just what does Argentina hope to say to the founder of democracy, the country that fought nazism under churchill and has championed human rights?
Perhaps Argentina and their cronies in latin America are doing what they are famous for stabbing people in the back.
Anglo pirates: British Empire with monarch is over, listen to Hugo Chavez. All the weaponry with drones in Afghanistan is worthless for controling the ppl. There was never a war in history that costly and with arms superiority on one side with no actual victory. You are rotten as the Soviet Union. You Allies don't actually control London or any US major city anymore. Argentinia constitution would guarantee way of life of inhabitants there. Do as James Peck and join Argentina before's too late.
This Argentinian blustering is playing right into the British politician's hands. At last, we can divert money to building up arms, providing money for new defence jobs, new weapons systems and fresh R&D, resulting in new sales of our enhanced and improved weaponry to the rest of the World. Gotta love war right? Or maybe Argentina is crying wolf?
its laughable that argentines berate the islanders for being a british colony when the islanders have been there over 200 years. Argentines are just the bastard sons of Spanish colonilism that raped and pillaged south america. Typical hycocritical and blinkered arguments with no foundation! Humiliation again awaits argentina!
Anglos and Zionists deport Palestinians all the time, Cristina has recognised Palestine and others followed. You're killing probably more Muslim civilians in NATO aggression in a month or so than Malvinas have Anglos on it. The colony on Malvinas is nothing else but an extension of UK, the Anglos knew well about the dispute when they came and most won't stay for long without being pampered by Anglos.
Typical Argentine nazi, whining about Jews on a video concerning the continuing freedom of the Falkland islands.
The Falklands are not and never will be Argentine. Chile has more chance of inheriting the Falklands that sad, pathetic, backward, corrupt fascist Argentina.
Ok, the military part in 1982 was not well prepared by Argentina, because they expected no military response by Anglos. This was a US installed puppet regime that thought US would support them. But they kept Malvinas for 72 days and that is good. Argentina defeated Anglo aggressors two times on their soil, they had bad chances to win in 1982 because of lack of exocets. But it was only one lost battle on its way to establishing full sovereignty.
Argentina is not a country it is a joke. Argentina supported Nazis in ww2 and housed Nazi war criminals after the war. In 1982 Argentine fascists invaded sovereign British territory, and rounded up the civilian population at gun point. British forces annihilated the cowardly fascist Argentine forces, destroying their regime in the process. From 1982 onward the Falklands have and always will be British, whilst Argentina remains a backward, insignificant failed fascist state.
Anglos invaded Buenos Aires two times but were defeated by non existing Argentinians?? Wider context: Anglos had plans to conquer all of South America (yes or no?). The dispute with Spain was already pending since long. The so called first Brit. colony came out of clandestine expedition, so they knew very well it was Spanish and tried trickery. And the first French settlement became legally Spanish and then Argentinian. Yes, you have moral obligation for compensating Argentina for invasion.
Your totally ignorant and unaware of facts. The case of Malvinas is well founded for Argentina. Spanish territory became Argentina, what constitutes decolonialization. Your point about Argentina not existing is without merits. How comes that if someone has the slightest knowledge of facts supports Argentina. The crap your talking about is not even in discussion in any legal talk. Thanks that Islam is discovering your island with only irrelevant low life. لله أكبر
Argentina's claim to the Falklands is based around a small outpost that you had for 3 years. The current people who live on the Falklands have been there for 9 generations, and they say they want to remain British.
Argentina has no legal rights and certainly no moral rights in this matter. If you really want them back, try another invasion. Obviously you're too cowardly to try that again, so case closed.
Anglo pirates: this will end up in war and you will lose. Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba have confirmed support, Paraguay, Bolivia and Peru have traditionally good relations with Argentina. USA stays neutral. China suppports Argentina, expect Russia also. In Europa, Spain, Italy, Germany are family of Argentina, Ireland hates you. And then the Muslims and Africa, don't underestimate a few billion anglohaters. Who is ACTUALLY behind you and your claims?
Sorry, but no country on earth is going to take military action in support of Argentina. Why would they? Argentina is a backward 3rd world country of no importance.
The EU has already announced it's support for Falklands self determination. Particularly SPAIN. China has no interest in the matter, nor does Russia.
You can keep making up as much bullshit as you like, but the fact remains, you are NEVER going to take control of the Falklands. End of story.
Here is definite proof of Anglo lies: Anyone who is honest, please visit Spanish Wikipedia and there "Historia_de_las_islas_Malvinas" ,then compare the Spanish version with English(select the language on the right) You may translate with translate.google.com ,Malvinas were first French, then Spanish, then Argentine, Brits came as pirates. Anglos are lied about history and kept stupid, they can't speak foreign languages and have Zionist tv all day instead of education.
Argentina is very good at killing hundreds of thousands of its own people and sending conscript soldiers off to get slaughtered by one of the worlds most formidable military machines, a horrible little facist country continually led by the most ludicrous politicians! Spend more time trying to resolve your fucked up country and dont pick a fight with us again otherwise Buenos Aires will receive a tactical nuke courtesy of Her Majesty the Queen!!
@MrPorkydanjou 11 ships sunked by the poor, and worst argentine marine force ahaha, and the Hermes??? Thank him the americans as always, in a WW2 and Malvinas War, always save your ass!!! greetings to the Sheffields...
@chacho1969 Have you been eating contaminated corned beef? We didnt have 11 ships down there, let alone have that many sunk!! We lost the Sir Galahad, Sheffield and container ship Atlantic Conveyor..You cowards sent one warship the Belgrano which we then turned into an underwater fast food restaurant for hungry fish, and then the rest of your navy hid back in Argentina! Losers!
Such bravery on the Argentine part to lose one ship, then send their entire fleet into hiding, abandoning to their fate the thousands of young men they'd dumped on the Falklands.
The closest thing to bravery an Argie can muster is screaming and howling on YT from their 90s era computers. Quite pathetic.
@chacho1969 Its a shame the Americans always support us and not Argentina isnt it? Maybe because they know that youre such a shitty backward country full of cowards and that the UK is full of warriors who drink Argentinian blood! Oh and by the way we have nuclear weapons, what have you got? NOTHING! A flick of the switch my son and youre history...
@MrPorkydanjou Yes, It s a shame...that the americans always support england....and you know it. We fought against the americans: the completely list of sunked ships:HMS Sheffield,HMS Coventry, HMS Antelope, HMS Ardent,RFA Sir Galahad,RFA Sir Tristam,Atlantic Coveyor, Foxtrot 4. Total ( 8 ships official)
The United Kingdom WILL defend the Falklands to our bitter end, we will not be pushed around by second rate South American nations, who think they are on the up. Truth is WE the British can when we need, show ourselves and our greatness with Fire and Sword and we as a people are capable of causing a terrible Tempest which would if we are provoked set Argentina and her allies ablaze, be mindful of who you are dealing with, we the British Never give up, WE NEVER give in and we protect what is ours
The Brits started WWII because they denied self determmination to Danzig that was under Polish rule and formerly it was German. Like in Palestine when Danzigers where to leave the place they could not return. Poland had military presence and factual boycott of the city. That's why the ultimatum came to Poland. Brits and Polacs wanted war over this and no solution. The British gave guarantee to Polish oppressive politics against the will of the Danzig population.
@madhammudeux Nothing worst that the ignorance, and you are ill mannered and ignorant: please, read The Sun 13 January 2005...ahahaha.
For illustrated your stupid brain: the V2 caused 7500 killed in London in WWII, but you dont sill know it because not study in your "High Brainwashed School of Ignorance"....Interesting...no? ahahahaha.
@MegaTRUTH007 The Malvinas came to Spain and then to Argentina when it was founded. it was legally Spanish based on agreed treaties. It was properly incorporated into Argentina and had Argentine settlers that were forcefully expelled by British agression. Learn about history, ignorant.
@mrmemanme No, they were not first. It was first French, then partly British and then Spanish based on contractual agreement. It was not uncommon that colonies changed the owner. The Spanish territory together with the Malvinas then became Argentina. The Malvinas were incorporated into Argentina and belonged to Patagonia. They were then attacked by USA and later occupied by Brits. At that time there was already an Argentine population living on the islands that was deported.
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Arg-Vice pres. "Get Falklands back"
Arg-govt. pressures Union boss over mass strikes,govt investigates his family.
Arg-chubut prov, defy govt. vessel ban and will accept cruises
Falk.-dictated flights from arg. unlikely, Arg. want to change "1999 accord" flight aggreement
Arg.govt.-blocks UK imports,Capital Mayor blasts own Govt "THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY"
Falk.-ceremony for last of Arg. mines cleared
EU,-Aid to Arg. should stop while The Falklands are threatened
ashyk72 10 hours ago
Presstv, that explains the anti-west bullshit,
ashyk72 15 hours ago
answer the question if you can.
ashyk72 16 hours ago
@ashyk72 what question?
latinopomerano 16 hours ago
@latinopomerano i answered your question now your turn,What compelled you to think I was suggesting other Argentines, when i CLEARLY stated BA mayor to you?
ashyk72 16 hours ago
@ashyk72 that's not a clear question and rather rhetoric. But if you like to make up your point that you had not intended to generalize on this irrelevant issue, I have no problems to acknowledge that
latinopomerano 16 hours ago
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@latinopomerano you still havent answered the question just another deflecting opinion even though i have just told you i stated BA mayor, so please instead of accusing me over what i havent said, answer my one and only question? its simple my question could not be more clear,.
What compelled you to think I was suggesting other Argentines, when i CLEARLY stated BA mayor to you? for the third time of asking
ashyk72 15 hours ago
Arg-chubut prov, defy govt. vessel ban and will accept cruises
Falk.-dictated flights from arg. unlikely, Arg. want to change "1999 accord" flight aggreement
Arg-teacher strike,out of control
Arg.govt.-blocks UK imports,Capital Mayor blasts own Govt "THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY"
Falk.-ceremony for last of Arg. mines cleared
EU,-Aid to Arg. should stop while The Falklands are threatened
Arg.govt.-bars UK & US cruises. officals,opposition and UK govt. blast ,"Economic Suicide"
ashyk72 20 hours ago
@ashyk72 UK ships must flag as UK and not some pirate flag. Malvinas are nothing else than a Brit. occupied territory.
latinopomerano 18 hours ago
@latinopomerano my frien UK does not have to do anything firstly, Malvinas wherever that is not my issue, this is about THE FALKLANDS, and always will be, have a bit more respect they have been there longer than Argentina has been a shithole,dictatorship of a country, even the BA mayor tells his own government they are not a democracy, how do you argue with that?
ashyk72 18 hours ago
@ashyk72 Are you referring to MACRI?? He is archtype of US and Zionist henchman, he's backed up by foreigners who filled his pockets with money, and he does nothing else but enforcing the neocon agenda, like selling off Patagonia to Gringos.
So what is the CITY OF LONDON jurisdiction? Btw., you still have a monarchy, no parliament in Scotland until recently, crown colonies....
latinopomerano 17 hours ago
@latinopomerano regardless what you think is real, the FACT remains that is he is the appointed mayor to the people of BA by the people is he not?,
being the Mayor of Argentinas capital makes it all the more significant for that very reason, as for jurisdiction i never suggested once he spoke for other Argentines,that was your assumption, was it not?
which leads me to my question, What on earth made you think I was suggesting other Argentines, when i CLEARLY stated BA mayor?
ashyk72 16 hours ago
@ashyk72 well, if he says Argentina is no democracy, what is his opinion, he admits not having been appointed by a democratic process.
Why do Brits here always label Argentina 3rd world, nazi, fascist, did not exist etc. in support of their claims for Malvinas?
latinopomerano 16 hours ago
@ashyk72 look up the discussion here. Malvinas were not discovered by Brits in 1690, in 1745 Spain protessted against plans to establish a brit. colony on Malvinas and stated they belong to Buenos Aires, Brits. accepted the protest. In 1764 there was first French colony that ceded to Buenos Aires. Brits came with CLANDESTINE expedition to Malvinas in 1765 to stir up conflict, they attacked Buenos Aires several times and were defeated. Brits came back and deported Arg. from Malvinas in 1833
latinopomerano 16 hours ago
@latinopomerano unfortunatley you are correct on your first sentence,"Malvinas were not discovered by Brits in 1690" let me explain why in reality 1590s islands founded by Richard Hawkins, 1690 landing by British captain John Strong etc.. but soverignty will never be discussed in reality as it has no need to be, Falklanders no there past.
no matter how you copy and paste your twisted view on history. non starter im afraid
ashyk72 15 hours ago
if winston churchill was alive he would say, never before in human conflict as a country asked for another slap., think not what your country can do for you, think how much your love to give these arges another kicking
michaelkeeble1 1 day ago
@michaelkeeble1 if it keeps on going the way it has been it will likely come about.
Oder1001 1 day ago
the Argies who believe they can con a country like China into becoming involved shows the levels they are prepared to go,they would be wise to go and study Africa where many have created a special relationship with China and the costs involved.
Oder1001 1 day ago
@Oder1001 China won't become involved directly, they will sell the weapons for a good price and provide some satellite information with the Russians. EU is in a crisis, UK does not really participate in it, only to bully Germany.You're more attached to the so called commonwealth. But Spain has ties to Latin America, Argentina is very Italian and there's a strong multi-million axis population all over SA. No one is supporting you, this will be waterloo for anglo zionist hawks
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano well we do have some very serious problems in the EU, you are aware of your oustanding debt to the US alone runs into $40 billion which Argentina is refusing to pay and if you count the rest of it your finances its worse than Greece or Portugal. The Chinese like cash up front for all their communist propoganda the are Capitalists in the closet and by the end of 2025 the biggest free market in the world don`t be to sure they will follow the Argentina model to peace and prosperity
Oder1001 1 day ago
@latinopomerano China is interested in making money in the EU just recently the Chinese president offered to buy up a huge amout of Greece's debt as Europe is China main market even more important than the US market, forget this idea that China will come to your rescue and save the Falklands for Argentina they will never sell you weapons that will make a serious threat to the UK or Europe. to doe so will undermine their own economy.
Oder1001 1 day ago
@Oder1001 Have you ever heard of BRIC? It's the new alliance against Anglos with Brasil. Lots of confrontation between Brasil and USA. Remember, you violated treaties with Russia and pointing missiles on them. Don't think you are the only one with weapons anymore, battle ships are more vulnerable than ever. You were colonyzing India, killing millions of them, Churchill stole their food in ww2 with another starvation holocaust there.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano Oh I've heard of BRIC, though clearly you haven't. BRIC is no 'alliance', its merely a grouping of countries with similar types of economies.
Though clearly your outrageous and ignorant claims show you have absolutely no knowledge of either history or current affairs.
alexsau91 1 day ago
@alexsau91 BRIC is maybe not a formal alliance but it exists because all this G7 and Bilderberg clubs are for Anglozionists only. UK is rotten and isolated, times are changing and all your bombed friends will kick you in the ass sooner or later.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano Isolated? The UK is a member state of the most advanced political and economic union that exists; namely the EU. As well as the Commonwealth of Nations, the Council of Europe, G20, G7, NATO and is a leading member of the IMF, WTO and World Bank, and one of only 5 permanently members of the UN security council. Whilst transatlantic disputes happen, it is also the closest ally to the USA.
Your clearly delusional, as well as ignorant.
alexsau91 1 day ago
@latinopomerano you really are delusional Russia had the biggest arsenal pointed at Europe for years, they had so many, the only option the west had would be an immediate nuclear retaliatory strike, I don't know what they teach you in your part of the world. HMS Dauntless is upsetting your president because of the ship presence in the Falklands if you have the capability to remove the ship the question is why don`t you?
Oder1001 1 day ago
@Oder1001 UK and US ALWAYS violate contracts. They're militarising East Europe, while agreements are they should be demilitarised. On Malvinas, UK militarises and extend sea borders. US and UK are invading Muslim countries and threat Iran, they eliminate Palestine. This goes on worldwide since centuries.
latinopomerano 18 hours ago
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@latinopomerano UK and US ALWAYS violate contracts.? you are aware Argentina has violated $40 Billion worth of loans and contracts from the US you clearly have a one sided view of things, UK militarises the islands because of Argentine hostility and the increasing rhetoric to the point of confrontation the Brits did not invade the Falklands Argentina did
Oder1001 15 hours ago
@Oder1001 There is a lot views that mask their true intentions by starting out as pro argentine opinions based on mis-information to try and suck you in, then disturbingly,quickly turns to a more sinister, anti-west rant, their main mission, Iraq,Iran,afghanistan,zionist,anti UK & US,etc.... makes you wonder who is really on the otherside of that conversation.
ashyk72 15 hours ago
@ashyk72 your aggressions go on worldwide, isn't the globalist agenda pushed by you? The majority of world population opposes this, and yes it's anti-western rant, right so. Malvinas were in the delimitation of the recognised Spanish discoveries, they're in the vicinity of SA under continental shelf law. Historically,Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and French agree on this. Brit. came to claim SA territory and control Cap Horn, and not as romantic sheep farmers on remote island.
latinopomerano 14 hours ago
@latinopomerano "Brit came to claim SA territory and control Cap Horn, and not as romantic sheep farmers on remote island."Well the facts are"the Brits did not control Cape Horn" they are 3000 sheep farmers on those remote islands.that's the reality delimitation by who?A Spanish Pope who gave his countrymen hereditary ownership over lands which was not his to give when the Portuguese found out how unfair he changed the demarcation line,the Pope was much a Conquistador as the criminal Pizarro
Oder1001 13 hours ago
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ashyk72 13 hours ago
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@latinopomerano seen as you wont or cant answer my original question as it would involve apologizing i will end this conversation.
as i thought "Global Agenda" so it isnt about The Falklands, just another excuse to have an "anti-western rant", as you admited. as for your real agenda, well personally i hope your cause, regardless of how twisted gets revealed for what it is a huge pile of poisoned shit no doubt like your government.
ashyk72 13 hours ago
@ashyk72 Agreed he has not really answered any question he retires to his well rehearsed anti stance just like the North Koreans "it`s everyone else fault", no wonder the world does not take them seriously.They have some distance to go to reach political maturity,dealing with truth seems to be a fundamental problem also.
Oder1001 13 hours ago
@Oder1001 What questions did I not answer?
Brits always tried to conquer SA but failed, look up Maitland plan.
Pizarro and the like were not wose than Brit. slavers. At the end of the 18th century, the church was supporting Latin independence, and the church never promoted slavery.
Compare Guatemala with Belize. and the Brit. enclaves in Nicaragua and Honduras in the east with the rest of the country. All of Latin America would be like Jamaica if British had succeeded.
latinopomerano 12 hours ago
@latinopomerano i rest my case preprogrammed re-written anti-west history with an archaic rhetoric twist, i doubt it is even a human, or somebody following an auto cue on what too say either way its not human.
i call it COMM-BOT
ashyk72 12 hours ago
@latinopomerano I asked you if the people BA while a colony of Spain were not recognised as Spanish citizens ... what were they then?
Oder1001 10 hours ago
@Oder1001 they were criollos, only when born in Spain they were Spanish. The concept of citizen was established in republics and did not exist then.
latinopomerano 6 hours ago
@latinopomerano Spanish colonists mostly men had liaisons with Amerindian women.European women at the time did not travel to the Americas,their children were mixed race.A Criollo was a person of full Spanish descent,born in the New World as opposed to Spain.Criollos were the offspring of two Peninsulares born in the New World, or of a Castizo parent and one Peninsular or Criollo parent.Criollo was the term to describe the ethnic make up of the populace not its status as citizen or subject .
Oder1001 57 minutes ago
@latinopomerano the people of Spanish territories were Spanish citizens/subjects ,Criollos is similar to the term colonial as you Argentines remind the UK
constantly, the Falklands islanders are British just like the Criollos are Spanish
Oder1001 39 minutes ago
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@latinopomerano the question was on the other thread you said
@Oder1001 Argentinians inhabitants never were Spanish citizens before independence. Do you have any understanding about colonialism??
latinopomerano 2 days ago
my question to you
latinopomerano they weren't? So Spanish colonies were what exactly if not Spanish?
Oder1001 2 days ago
Oder1001 10 hours ago
@Oder1001 Who said Anglos were not involved in Vietnam. Look up "Britain's small wars" in google, with such cute wars as 'hunting the Mau Mau'. Like in SA, you were bullying in SE Asia. It's always the same ugly queen as head of state of the evil ones.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano I an still waiting on your answer about Spanish colonies and the people there not being Spanish at the time of empire. Yes Australians fought in Vietnam and Yes they are British subjects the decision was made in Australia not London what does that tell you? as for the Mau Mau they were treated much better than Argentina treated their native people.
Oder1001 1 day ago
@Oder1001 The first Span. who arrived in the Americas were driven by greed for gold, they were not acting on behalf of Spain. Spain was involved in Christianisation and urbanisation, where locals were integrated and the Span. mixed with them (only few Span. women ever arrived). The colonies were self maintained AND NOT SPAN. OUTPOSTS. At the end of 18th century, they were becoming indep. (first ever), look up Bolivar. Arg. and Mex. fought of Brit. and Fra., against white domination.
latinopomerano 18 hours ago
fucking Kelpers: news for you: no more flights from Malvinas to Chile, routes will be canceled.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano that will not break either the islanders or the British, Spain tried some thing very similar and had the opposite effect which lasted 16 years or so. China is not going to have war with Europe with its single biggest customer in the world and China`s No 1 market. the islands are an associate state to the EU which means if the UK can not defend the islands the EU are obligated to do so. Spain Italy and Germany are members of the EU and will up hold its EU commitments.
Oder1001 1 day ago
@latinopomerano you do understand that you can only restrict flights through Argentine air space? the Brits can fly round your air space and if you step outside your air space to prevent aircraft flying to the islands the Brits while be legally justified in shooting down Argentine aircraft that interferes with its aircraft in international airspace, by all means prohibit flights over your territory, but do not interfere with aircraft outside it.
Oder1001 1 day ago
@Oder1001 currently flights go trough Argentinian air space, but the point is Chile will stop them.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano does that also mean Chile will prevent British aircraft flying to and fro the islands? I think not there is a number of people from Chile that work on the islands I wonder if Chile is going to make their own people unemployed to keep Argentina happy?
bear in mind if the oil comes on line there will be vasts amount of work available, if Argentina does not see sense a come to a working relationship with the islanders, then the work and the profits go to Chile.
Oder1001 1 day ago
If China decided to support Argentina in a war against the UK in the Falklands, the entire membership of NATO would be arrayed against it. China and Argentina couldn't even come close to achieving victory over the UK, France, Germany, USA, Spain, Turkey, Canada.
Put simply, China would never take such action that would go beyond the USSR ever went in the Cold War.
And with the forces of the western world against them, would Brazil and co, continue supporting Argentina?
alexsau91 1 day ago
@alexsau91 Spain, Italy, Germany and Croatia are behind Argentina, don't you know that?? France tend to Argentina too.
USA declared neutrality.
You have a good point asking "what if". It will be the end of NATO and Anglo hegemony.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano France Italy Germany for a number of strategic reason will not split European harmony by supporting Argentina in any future conflict, you make a mistake, as for the US being neutral that`s a bigger boost for Argentina, but it means very little to the Brits and we won`t listen to them on the Falklands only the islanders we listen to, but feel free to supply Argentinian troops in the US next war I am sure they will appreciate your support. who will end NATO? not China.
Oder1001 1 day ago
@latinopomerano Please please tell me your joking?
France is the UK's greatest supporter, as France has similar issues. And Spain, Italy and Germany are all signatories of the Treaty of Lisbon - which recognised the UK's claim of the Island. As such not only is the Falklands an overseas territory of the UK, it is an 'Special Overseas Territory' of the EU.
And the USA has not declared neutrality, the current administration is just pushing for talks. They fully backed the UK in the last war.
alexsau91 1 day ago
@alexsau91 People on the street know nothing about this treaty, they'll never support it. Although NATO is killing in Muslim countries, the people other than Anglos en Europe are against it. This just shows your wickedness because otherwise your blocking everything in Europe and only signed this treaty with dumping your dirty past as problems to more decent countries who get fooled once again by your zionist practices.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano Please do not pretend to know about the Treaty of Lisbon and the European people's feeling on it. You don't.
Perhaps if you want to research wickedness you might want to look at the Argentine Dirty War for horrific crimes committed by your country.
At the same time you should check the definition of Zionism; which is an ultra-nationalist Jewish ideology. The nations of the EU are Christian, not Zionists, with it's two leading military members favouring Palestine over Israel.
alexsau91 1 day ago
@alexsau91 No, I do not pretend to know about that contract? wasn't it first called constitution, then rejected by the ppl, why it was renamed and then enforced unilaterally. Nobody knows about this contract, nevertheless can it have authority for SA territory.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano So you clearly don't know.
The Treaty of Lisbon replaced numerous treaties, including the Constitution for Europe, though this was not because it was rejected by the people, but because it needed updating. The Treaty was not forced 'unilaterally' on it's members, each member state had to agree to it before it was ratified.
A great majority have heard of the Treaty. As I said, do not speak for the European people and do not pretend to know their minds.
alexsau91 1 day ago
@alexsau91 even if we disagree on this: the constitution was rejected by vote in Ireland, Netherlands and France with more countries rejecting it. The exactly same paper with some minor changes was then renamed and pulled through the pipeline ridiculing the public vote. Just my view and opinion and probably that of many if not most in Europe.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
@latinopomerano Since it was ratified, every country agreed to it. Though France and the Netherlands disagreed with some aspects, and the Irish electorate originally voted against it. After various amendments it was signed by all members, with the Irish public voting in favour. Though this is scarcely difference to any law, bill etc that any national government imposes.
General opposition is tepid. Anti-EU parties exist all across Europe, though very few are electorally successful.
alexsau91 1 day ago
@alexsau91 AGAIN: the military dictatorship in Argentina was installed by USA. They always replaced the elected peronist governments with henchman of the anglozionist agenda. Pinochet WHO IS YOUR FRIEND was supporter of US/UK and on CIA paylist, like the US puppets in Argentina.
latinopomerano 1 day ago
Pathetic.
PMasonization 2 days ago
Those campaigns were mainly in Chile, and they were in connection with conflicts with the Mapuche. The extent of the Mapuches killed in Argentina is still subject of discussion, and I don't defend that. It is true that Mapuches were/are subdued, and there are still conflicts in the South of Argentina. However, indigenous were always able to integrate into SA society. USA, South Africa, Australia have killed much more.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
this all about potential oil in the antArctic region. Historically, the USA and UK muscled this land from Argentina in the 1800s
good2goskee 2 days ago
@good2goskee but who knew about the oil in 1765 when the British settled the islands? you think the Brits can see into the future?
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 no one knew it was about oil in the those days-it was about power projection. But in the 1980s it became more about oil eventhough the technology or price did not justify deep exploration. But, the future potential (perhaps now) with oil exploration is there.
good2goskee 2 days ago
@good2goskee one can equally argue that it was Argentina`s invasion in 82 changed the British Government policy at that time was to let go the islands slowly to the Argentine, one they had taken the islands by force killed any policy the uk government had, now it was to let the islanders make their own choice,bad call by Argentina. with oil it merely aggravates the situation, if the oil works out the financial cost of defending the islands will disappear.
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 cannot argue. violence is usually an expensive bad call
good2goskee 1 day ago
it not Malvinas it FALKLANDS !!!
TaGaZxX 2 days ago
Its time for the UK to invade Argentina, Captain Mainwaring and his crack Walmington-On-Sea detachment should have it all wrapped up in time to get back for drill practice in the church hall! Private Godfrey, expert marksman at 5 yards with his trusted 303 will have personal responsibility to offer the transvestite Argentinian President some of sister Dollys cakes just before shooting her in her testicles!!
MrPorkydanjou 2 days ago
Before ww2 you let Poland incorporate Danzig and suppress the population, which was against the statutes. France and Britain had declared war to Germany, Britain tried first to enter into Norway, Czechoslovakia was not invaded. Your point is, Malvinas can't be Argentina whatever of, because there is a small Anglo population. It was Danzig will to be incorporated into Germany, they were under boycott by Poland. They didn't want to be a "free city" as it was thought in the treaty of Versailles.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
Australia will not allow this.
MrFattyfatfatboy 3 days ago
What I find unbelievable is that we're still giving aid to Argentina!! The UK pays this poor, third world and backwards country £450 million a year in aid!!! Why do we still give them aid?
AmboGuy 3 days ago
@AmboGuy When it comes to making a buck, the British are always there, at present 20% of all foreign investment in Argentina is British and more substantial, Yes one fifth all the Aid.The £450 million through the IMF is chicken feed over 12 years. The US is upset with them because the refuse to pay the $40 Billion for previous loans.
Oder1001 3 days ago
Wrong buddy the British and French used no more than 20 aircraft over several months hitting Gaddafi's military hardware, the RAF and the French air force have have over 500 front line combat aircraft between them and that's after the defence cuts. China will not seek confrontation with the UK for Argentina as that would become a very serious matter indeed and consequences Argentina would not escape from it would be very unwise to promote such at situation.
Oder1001 3 days ago
Just out of interest, does anyone know whether Argentina has ever won a war?
mollymoo71 4 days ago
@mollymoo71 look up "British invasions of the Río de la Plata", you're total ignorant plain stupid decadent pirates.
latinopomerano 4 days ago
@latinopomerano To my knowledge, that was in 1807, during a war between Britain and Spain, didn't the war of independance start in 1810? Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
mollymoo71 4 days ago
@mollymoo71
Yes their best record was against their own people in the 70s/80s, killed thousands hardly any losses for the military.1833 when the Brits kicked out all 15 soldiers planted there by the Spanish colony of the United provinces,1810 they won independence because the Spanish would not contest it, they have provoked war with every neighbouring country since, but their greatest achievement over 30 000 of their own civilian missing, impressive!
Oder1001 4 days ago
@Oder1001 Ok, thanks for that. I heard that the Spanish were otherwise engaged in the Peninsula War. Did the Spanish abandon Argentina (due to the Peninsula war)? If that is the case, who were the 'Argentinians' actually fighting? Surely the bulk of the Spanish forces were otherwise engaged? I gather by your info that the Argentinian forces are greatly respected.
mollymoo71 3 days ago
@mollymoo71 the Spanish did not oppose directly any of the colonies in SA as Napoleon had set his brother on the Spanish throne and the colonies were not about taken orders from a Frenchman,however the Spanish did not recognise Argentina till1859 their argument that they inherited the islands from Spain are some what dubious at best.Spain finally gave up its clams in SA around 1870s,No logic in the case they could inherit before Spain recognised Argentina as a state Spain left the islands in1811
Oder1001 3 days ago
@Oder100 So then how comes that the rest of the world, in particular SA countries are supporting Argentina? You started WW2 by denying Danzig their right of self determination, you do the same in Palestina, you're killing Muslims and invade their countries, you finally returned the stone of destiny. Argentinas claims are well founded, whether you like it or not or be able to comprehend it or not. UK, USA, "Israel" are scumbags of the world, USA will lose to Mexico too, because we rule.
latinopomerano 3 days ago
@latinopomerano Danzig was semi autonomous state prior to 1939 and part of Poland Germany invaded, both the UK and France had a defence agreement with Poland and declared war on Germany. When Palestinians learn to love their children more and hate the Jews less they will have peace. As for the Stone of Destiny Edward the first never got his hands on the original. if Argentina`s claims are legitimate take it to ICJ and get full international acknowledged legal verdict. Your Gov refuses
Oder1001 3 days ago
@mollymoo71 they actually murdered their own people, the neighboring countries have since the time of Argentina coming into existence suffered at the wars provoked by the Argentines, many of the British troops from 82 said they fought well and were quite good just badly led so they had some respect from one enemy they started war with.
Oder1001 3 days ago
@Oder1001 the 30.000 figure is vastly exaggerated. Please note that the military dictatorship in Argentina was installed by US, they did not want the peronist (seen as nazi) agenda of independence and social economy. US intervention polarized the country. There were lots of communists in SA and factual civil war. USA and UK killed communists worldwide, it's hypocrite to blame this on Argentine while US and UK was involved in these killings, not to mention Vietnam.
latinopomerano 3 days ago
@latinopomerano Yes I get the picture it was every ones fault but not Argentina the figure was taken from Argentine organisation who are investigating Argentina`s Dirty War.the UK was not involved in the Vietnam war, and only went to war when Argentina invaded the Falklands.When leaders of a country are in power elected or not they have the responsibility for their actions,Germany had Nazis caused WW2 and ultimately the destruction of Germany,Argentina came off lightly in comparison
Oder1001 3 days ago
Danzig was formally a free city, but you get the point if you say it was part of Poland. You should know that Poland was about to incorporate it and had an illegal military presence there. Poland also expelled about 2 mill. Germans that came to Poland after ww1 against their will, you should know their was no Polish majority in any territory they got. Poland wanted war with British and french guarantee, and they violated the statutes for Danzig which caused the ultimatum.
latinopomerano 3 days ago
@latinopomerano Yes Hilter just wanted Danzig for peace to reign in Europe, so why was his armies in Holland, Belgium, France, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Russia, Norway. Greece Italy and the rest, none of these were in Poland. It was your country that opened its doors to the Nazis`s giving the impression to the world you approved and condone their behaviour, your country`s image is one created by yourselves.
Oder1001 3 days ago
@latinopomerano It was about to be incorporated into Poland so Hitler incorporated it into Germany this was some how more right to you? one is judged by actions if Poland had incorporated it would have been wrong, Hitler did and he was wrong.. eg two wrongs( or supposed wrongs) don`t make right... understand?
Oder1001 3 days ago
@Oder1001 Btw., at the Congress of Vienna in 1815 you prevented Poland from becoming independent against the will of Prussia and Russia. You refused talks about establishing Poland in its ethnic boundaries, that's why both Russia and Germany invaded Poland. Poland had a military dictatorship and attacked all of its neighbors in the 1920 with US/UK support. After Hitler had conquered Poland, he tried to negotiate about borders, but you refused any talks about a just peace.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano Hitler new he would have a war he did not just take Danzig he took Poland that made the situation worse then When Japan attacked Pearl harbour he declared war on the US.
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 Learn about the provoked attacked on Pearl Harbour. Btw., US had embargo on Jap, what is act of war. Hawaii was occuped by US, Ger had pact with Jap and US needed a pretext to openly join the war. Hitler had to take Poland because of a 600.000+ army to eliminate, he then tried AGAIN to negotiate. And why did UK leave Poland to Soviets? Becaus they didn't like ANY new country in Europ or else become independent. UK killed and expelled 20 mill. Germ. and let communism into Eur.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano im curious, was your father/grandfather a nazi that fled to argentina after ww2?
littlelordfauntleroy 2 days ago
@littlelordfauntleroy no. Most so called Nazis who came to Argentina, where low to medium ranks. Btw., they lived unharmed in Germany until the 1950ies. In the 1940ies, ppl did not know about a holocaust. All that frenzy started later.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@Oder1001 the Argentinian military dictatorship was similar to Pinochet, and many others that US/UK supported. The scumbag Pinochet was close to Thatcher. As long as a Saudi Prince, a Chilean or whoever dictator supports USA, you never complain and shout Nazi or terrorist.
latinopomerano 3 days ago
@latinopomerano supported Pinochet? why because they bought British military equipment ? so did Argentina that was support also. the reality is the Brits could do nothing about dictatorships anywhere in SA however it was Argentina that attacked the British that makes Argentina the baddie at the same time you threatened war against Chile. it is your own squabbling Argentine nature to provoke war with your neighbours as you have done with every one of them since Argentina existed.
Oder1001 3 days ago
@latinopomerano Still it shows what a poor backwards country you are eh?? Receiving handouts from another country! You must feel quite ashamed about that!!!!
AmboGuy 3 days ago
@latinopomerano the majority in the UK would not support a military dictatorships however the when one is attacked you would use any alliance you find even dictators Spain had Franco for years and all had to deal with him in Europe he survived because he was clever enough to know not to join Hitler and stayed out of the war,all SA dictators were treated the same that changed when Argentina attacked you made the islanders fear you never a good impression to give, work at being friends with them.
Oder1001 3 days ago
@Oder1001 Shortly before he died, Pinochet came to UK. You always support dictators and terrorists, and even install them. Terrorists that try to assassinate Hugo Chavez live protected in USA.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano you seem to miss the point Argentina made themselves the enemy of both the UK and Chile as Churchill said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" you may not like it but that's how it works he was here for medical treatment, even in this country we have to treat the sick regardless of their past, Poland's borders over the last 200 years have changed many times, whatever happened at it all the signatories agreed to it England did nothing on its own.
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 Apparently, Argentina has a history of claiming Islands which are not their's. One of the reasons Chile supported the UK in the Falklands is because Argentina was laying claim to the Picton, Lennox and Nueva Islands in the Beagle Channel. Islands which are internationally recognised as Chilean. Apparently a war between the two was narrowly avoided in 1978.....cheeky!!
mollymoo71 2 days ago
@mollymoo71 Yes I know there is not one neighbour they have not attacked at some time
they are the aggressor on every occasion
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 hahaha you treat Pinochet just because he is sick *lol* you're getting even more ridicoulus and crasser than fucking Cameron
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano Read my comment regarding the Picton, Lennox and Nueva Islands. Once again, you are rebuking people that you attack. Read up on the Beagle Conflict, then tell me your country isn't an aggressor.
mollymoo71 2 days ago
@mollymoo71 Argentina is the avantgarde of freeing Latinos together with our fellow Mexican friends who suffer US occupation. The milit. dictatorship in Arg. was US installed, the conflict about the islands a dispute between Chile and Argentina. To explain that, is not possible here, but it has to do with Chilean politics in the region. Anyway, the conflict is over, and Chile wants you out of Malvinas, pirates.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano do one argie. you're another argentine pretending to be from another country. ......
bushstalker776 2 days ago
@bushstalker776 vos sos una lacra.... nunca dije ser Argentino soy MEXICANO/POMERANO
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano u mad bro?
bushstalker776 2 days ago
@latinopomerano The Beagle Conflict is yet another example of Argentina's aggressive ways, not respecting international law or the rights of the population. How colonial is that? read a few more books boy. Oh, and to call an English man a pirate is actually a compliment.
mollymoo71 2 days ago
@mollymoo71 UK was supporting the scumbag Pinochet and installing spying equipment in Chile. hahaha calling an English sucker a pirate is a compliment, what? Because they're even worse than that???
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano Oh God yeah, of course we are. That's why we protect the interests of our people who need to be protected from aggressive nations who wish to force their rule upon others who don't want it. We fight against countries who illegally blockade fishing vessels, board them illegally, ban cruise ships from their ports and generally try to make political statements by hurting innocent people. Oh yeah we're worse than pirates.
mollymoo71 2 days ago
@latinopomerano and Argentinians were supporting the scumbag junta and if memory serves me correctly Pinochet like the dictator Argentina had was also taken to court in Chile. so no better or worse than any one else you will just have to get used to the fact Argentina isn't any more special than any another country.
Oder1001 2 days ago
@latinopomerano Chile can say what the please to keep the Argentinians from moaning but I suspect given your country`s aggressive history towards it, they rightly would not put faith in Argentina
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 Chile had no friends in SA until recently. They have a massive unsettled conflict with Peru and Bolivia, so why you're not upset about that? But now, relations are better. Don't try to exploit on internal conflicts and intervene in the matters of sovereign nations for your sinister pirate acts. SA stands united against your colonialism, you have NO support on you Malvinas .
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano SA stand united against argentina .. do you want to know more? have no doubts that you will reap the whirwind for your trouble making ways.
bushstalker776 2 days ago
@bushstalker776 ....I can't wait to know more about "SA standing united against Argentina".... please, please more
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano well given the quality of the people round them its so bad its better not to take them as friends. Why would I be upset? Latin America is one revolution after another, and please man Bolivia? isn't that the country that's had 174 revolutions in 168 years revolutions are a sporting event there.
Oder1001 2 days ago
@Oder1001 please give details about what aggressive ARGENTINIAN history you're talking, about Argentinians attacking and slaughtering indigenous.
latinopomerano 2 days ago
@latinopomerano you're an obsessive xenophobe with some form of massive emotional instability. Dont think that you speak for anyone other than yourself.
bushstalker776 2 days ago
@latinopomerano its called Patagonia the Pacification of the dessert between 1820 to completion in 1888. where mass murder genocide and the destruction of the native peoples.
Oder1001 2 days ago
@mollymoo71 Yes according to Argentinian historians they won WW1, WW2, Korean, Falklands and Iraq......
MrPorkydanjou 2 days ago
Don't believe those lies:
Malvinas were discovered in 1690 by Anglos
British had first colony on Malvinas
There was no Argentina then, so Malvinas can't belong to Argentina now.
UK acts as defender of self determination rights
Argentina are Nazis and Anglos are first democracy
latinopomerano 4 days ago
Uk, "Israel" and US-Anglos, you're the most hated on the planet in surveys, fucking serial murderers. Argentina is true democracy and fought with their blood Anglo-invasions, Argentina first independent nation in South America after they prevented Anglo take over and defeated Anglo army two times. Anglos deported Argentinians from Malvinas in 1833, before it was Spanish belonging to Buenos Aires that became legally Argentina. Everyone who knows facts about Malvinas supports Argentina.
latinopomerano 4 days ago
Thanks for the advice. I think we'll take you up on it. LETS increase our defence spending, just as you suggest...
hedgehogoggles 4 days ago
Britian may not have a carrier task force anymore but it still retains a cutting edge competant battle hardened military. Argentina still has the same kit from the 80s.
johnp7620 4 days ago
Ah Argentina, that bastion of democracy. The country who inveded the peaceful Falklands and commited war crimes. Argentina that well known safe haven for nazi war criminals and is now in league with the chinease.
So just what does Argentina hope to say to the founder of democracy, the country that fought nazism under churchill and has championed human rights?
Perhaps Argentina and their cronies in latin America are doing what they are famous for stabbing people in the back.
johnp7620 4 days ago
Its a joke - If you really think UK is weak take a pop
trevortrevortsr2 5 days ago
Anglo pirates: British Empire with monarch is over, listen to Hugo Chavez. All the weaponry with drones in Afghanistan is worthless for controling the ppl. There was never a war in history that costly and with arms superiority on one side with no actual victory. You are rotten as the Soviet Union. You Allies don't actually control London or any US major city anymore. Argentinia constitution would guarantee way of life of inhabitants there. Do as James Peck and join Argentina before's too late.
latinopomerano 5 days ago
This Argentinian blustering is playing right into the British politician's hands. At last, we can divert money to building up arms, providing money for new defence jobs, new weapons systems and fresh R&D, resulting in new sales of our enhanced and improved weaponry to the rest of the World. Gotta love war right? Or maybe Argentina is crying wolf?
Spatsy123 5 days ago
its laughable that argentines berate the islanders for being a british colony when the islanders have been there over 200 years. Argentines are just the bastard sons of Spanish colonilism that raped and pillaged south america. Typical hycocritical and blinkered arguments with no foundation! Humiliation again awaits argentina!
cheltcanary 5 days ago
BREAKING NEWS
Argentine clowns block civilian cruise ships from docking, for daring to visit Falkland islands before hand.
What a joke of a country.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
Anglos and Zionists deport Palestinians all the time, Cristina has recognised Palestine and others followed. You're killing probably more Muslim civilians in NATO aggression in a month or so than Malvinas have Anglos on it. The colony on Malvinas is nothing else but an extension of UK, the Anglos knew well about the dispute when they came and most won't stay for long without being pampered by Anglos.
latinopomerano 5 days ago
@latinopomerano
STFU nazi
madhammudeux 5 days ago
@latinopomerano
Typical Argentine nazi, whining about Jews on a video concerning the continuing freedom of the Falkland islands.
The Falklands are not and never will be Argentine. Chile has more chance of inheriting the Falklands that sad, pathetic, backward, corrupt fascist Argentina.
LONG LIVE THE FALKLANDS.
LONG LIVE ARGENTINE HUMILIATION.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
Ok, the military part in 1982 was not well prepared by Argentina, because they expected no military response by Anglos. This was a US installed puppet regime that thought US would support them. But they kept Malvinas for 72 days and that is good. Argentina defeated Anglo aggressors two times on their soil, they had bad chances to win in 1982 because of lack of exocets. But it was only one lost battle on its way to establishing full sovereignty.
latinopomerano 5 days ago
@latinopomerano
Ignore this Nazi sympathizer trash. He's just jealous his mom got fucked by a Jew.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
@latinopomerano
Argentina is not a country it is a joke. Argentina supported Nazis in ww2 and housed Nazi war criminals after the war. In 1982 Argentine fascists invaded sovereign British territory, and rounded up the civilian population at gun point. British forces annihilated the cowardly fascist Argentine forces, destroying their regime in the process. From 1982 onward the Falklands have and always will be British, whilst Argentina remains a backward, insignificant failed fascist state.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
Anglos invaded Buenos Aires two times but were defeated by non existing Argentinians?? Wider context: Anglos had plans to conquer all of South America (yes or no?). The dispute with Spain was already pending since long. The so called first Brit. colony came out of clandestine expedition, so they knew very well it was Spanish and tried trickery. And the first French settlement became legally Spanish and then Argentinian. Yes, you have moral obligation for compensating Argentina for invasion.
latinopomerano 5 days ago
Your totally ignorant and unaware of facts. The case of Malvinas is well founded for Argentina. Spanish territory became Argentina, what constitutes decolonialization. Your point about Argentina not existing is without merits. How comes that if someone has the slightest knowledge of facts supports Argentina. The crap your talking about is not even in discussion in any legal talk. Thanks that Islam is discovering your island with only irrelevant low life. لله أكبر
latinopomerano 5 days ago
@latinopomerano
Argentina's claim to the Falklands is based around a small outpost that you had for 3 years. The current people who live on the Falklands have been there for 9 generations, and they say they want to remain British.
Argentina has no legal rights and certainly no moral rights in this matter. If you really want them back, try another invasion. Obviously you're too cowardly to try that again, so case closed.
P.S go back to Spain to you colonial fascist.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
Anglo pirates: this will end up in war and you will lose. Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba have confirmed support, Paraguay, Bolivia and Peru have traditionally good relations with Argentina. USA stays neutral. China suppports Argentina, expect Russia also. In Europa, Spain, Italy, Germany are family of Argentina, Ireland hates you. And then the Muslims and Africa, don't underestimate a few billion anglohaters. Who is ACTUALLY behind you and your claims?
latinopomerano 6 days ago
@latinopomerano
Sorry, but no country on earth is going to take military action in support of Argentina. Why would they? Argentina is a backward 3rd world country of no importance.
The EU has already announced it's support for Falklands self determination. Particularly SPAIN. China has no interest in the matter, nor does Russia.
You can keep making up as much bullshit as you like, but the fact remains, you are NEVER going to take control of the Falklands. End of story.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
Malvinas Islands? Sorry, doesn't ring a bell. There's no place on earth called that.
Oh!
You mean the Falkland Islands.
Next time win the war, Then you can change the name of the islands.
Vidzstreamer 6 days ago
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Here is definite proof of Anglo lies: Anyone who is honest, please visit Spanish Wikipedia and there "Historia_de_las_islas_Malvinas" ,then compare the Spanish version with English(select the language on the right) You may translate with translate.google.com ,Malvinas were first French, then Spanish, then Argentine, Brits came as pirates. Anglos are lied about history and kept stupid, they can't speak foreign languages and have Zionist tv all day instead of education.
latinopomerano 1 week ago
Argentina is very good at killing hundreds of thousands of its own people and sending conscript soldiers off to get slaughtered by one of the worlds most formidable military machines, a horrible little facist country continually led by the most ludicrous politicians! Spend more time trying to resolve your fucked up country and dont pick a fight with us again otherwise Buenos Aires will receive a tactical nuke courtesy of Her Majesty the Queen!!
MrPorkydanjou 1 week ago
@MrPorkydanjou 11 ships sunked by the poor, and worst argentine marine force ahaha, and the Hermes??? Thank him the americans as always, in a WW2 and Malvinas War, always save your ass!!! greetings to the Sheffields...
chacho1969 6 days ago
@chacho1969 Have you been eating contaminated corned beef? We didnt have 11 ships down there, let alone have that many sunk!! We lost the Sir Galahad, Sheffield and container ship Atlantic Conveyor..You cowards sent one warship the Belgrano which we then turned into an underwater fast food restaurant for hungry fish, and then the rest of your navy hid back in Argentina! Losers!
MrPorkydanjou 6 days ago 2
@MrPorkydanjou
Such bravery on the Argentine part to lose one ship, then send their entire fleet into hiding, abandoning to their fate the thousands of young men they'd dumped on the Falklands.
The closest thing to bravery an Argie can muster is screaming and howling on YT from their 90s era computers. Quite pathetic.
madhammudeux 5 days ago
@chacho1969 Its a shame the Americans always support us and not Argentina isnt it? Maybe because they know that youre such a shitty backward country full of cowards and that the UK is full of warriors who drink Argentinian blood! Oh and by the way we have nuclear weapons, what have you got? NOTHING! A flick of the switch my son and youre history...
MrPorkydanjou 6 days ago
@MrPorkydanjou Yes, It s a shame...that the americans always support england....and you know it. We fought against the americans: the completely list of sunked ships:HMS Sheffield,HMS Coventry, HMS Antelope, HMS Ardent,RFA Sir Galahad,RFA Sir Tristam,Atlantic Coveyor, Foxtrot 4. Total ( 8 ships official)
chacho1969 5 days ago
@chacho1969 And doesnt it really hurt you that the USA thinks youre a pathetic little backward country like the rest of the world!
MrPorkydanjou 2 days ago
The United Kingdom WILL defend the Falklands to our bitter end, we will not be pushed around by second rate South American nations, who think they are on the up. Truth is WE the British can when we need, show ourselves and our greatness with Fire and Sword and we as a people are capable of causing a terrible Tempest which would if we are provoked set Argentina and her allies ablaze, be mindful of who you are dealing with, we the British Never give up, WE NEVER give in and we protect what is ours
medieval07 1 week ago
The Brits started WWII because they denied self determmination to Danzig that was under Polish rule and formerly it was German. Like in Palestine when Danzigers where to leave the place they could not return. Poland had military presence and factual boycott of the city. That's why the ultimatum came to Poland. Brits and Polacs wanted war over this and no solution. The British gave guarantee to Polish oppressive politics against the will of the Danzig population.
latinopomerano 1 week ago
@latinopomerano
Typical Argentine supporting the Nazis. What else can we expect from a nation of Fascists.
Don't anyone forget that Argentina supported the NAZI regime in WW2, and hid many Nazi war criminals after the war.
ARGENTINA = Nation of fascists!!
madhammudeux 1 week ago
@madhammudeux DID YOU SEE A PIC WITH YOUR STUPID PRINCE HARRIS WITH NAZI UNIFORM....? AHAHAHAHA
england hooligan(like you): typical arrogant, ill mannered, pirate,robber,
Related your comment, the V2 that destroyed London in WW2, USA covered its inventor.
chacho1969 6 days ago
@chacho1969
Who is prince Harris?
London was destroyed in WW2? Interesting, I never knew that. I don't even think Hitler knew that.
You seem really sensitive about the Nazi thing. Was your father a Nazi by any chance?
madhammudeux 5 days ago
@madhammudeux Nothing worst that the ignorance, and you are ill mannered and ignorant: please, read The Sun 13 January 2005...ahahaha.
For illustrated your stupid brain: the V2 caused 7500 killed in London in WWII, but you dont sill know it because not study in your "High Brainwashed School of Ignorance"....Interesting...no? ahahahaha.
chacho1969 5 days ago
When the British arrived in 1690 there was no one on the island, it then claimed de jure sovereignty according to international law.
Argentina was not even thought of then , so where does there claim come from ?
MegaTRUTH007 1 week ago
@MegaTRUTH007
Their imaginations.
madhammudeux 1 week ago
@MegaTRUTH007 The Malvinas came to Spain and then to Argentina when it was founded. it was legally Spanish based on agreed treaties. It was properly incorporated into Argentina and had Argentine settlers that were forcefully expelled by British agression. Learn about history, ignorant.
latinopomerano 1 week ago
@latinopomerano But the british were there first
mrmemanme 1 week ago
@mrmemanme No, they were not first. It was first French, then partly British and then Spanish based on contractual agreement. It was not uncommon that colonies changed the owner. The Spanish territory together with the Malvinas then became Argentina. The Malvinas were incorporated into Argentina and belonged to Patagonia. They were then attacked by USA and later occupied by Brits. At that time there was already an Argentine population living on the islands that was deported.
latinopomerano 1 week ago