Okay normally i am not surprised by the stupidity of the state .... but terrorist children? do the police want to be chased with pitchforks and strung up?
The greek influence was topical to show what was what.
As to the other comment, back to the start, you keep acting as if the kids spoken in the article went through the little routine you keep harping on. They did not.
You definitively decided to essentialize Islam in your trip. Thanks for confiming some of my Povs.
The statement that there is no danger from radical buddists and veggies show that indeed you essentialize Islam, with a will to ignore people's actions when they dont go against Islam.
Radical vegetarians have taken destructive path sometimes and Tibet was somehow strange before China put an end to its strangeness.
As to ignoring the context, well, I think I provided evidences I am not the one ignoring the context.
This is what my point and what the article underlines and what you dismissed
I underlined how the context was what produces the fertile ground for radicalizers to operate. You came up with all the blabla on western evil and stuff like that.
Even when I outlined that religious people do not behave according to their religious beliefs, you keep arguing that I dismiss the context. Which leads me to think that you dont want to discuss, taking nothing objected to your points into account. At this point...
Wooo, if indeed it is a measure of scale you require, I suggest you consider who is doing what and up to what amount: the supposed retaliation for 9,11 was the war against Iraq which has done so much more casualties than the terrorist events.
Of course, not I did operate a comparison on scale because those are insane comparisons.
As to coming with the blabla "western evil", you did.
No, the invasion of Iraq was absolutely *not* meant as a "retaliation for 9/11". If that is news to you, you only demonstrate your ignorance.
As for terrorism, lets just stick with the things we usually associate with it: Blowing up trains, busses, airplanes, flying airplanes into buildings, beheading members of other religions, etc etc....
and you know who does that. Hint: Not radical vegetarians...
"linking Iraq to Al Quaeda" is not the same as "retaliation for 9/11".
Decide what you talk about.
And yes, you could call "mob lynching US negro style" as terrorism. However, it does not happen any more, and there is nobody preaching it as a religion and promising paradise for it.
For this war to be started, the US (and the coalition of the willing)had to bypass the UN. Picturing it as being the terminal station of the UN attitude to Iraq is unfounded.
Indeed, building a supposedly link between Al Qaeda, the group behind 9,11 and the mad man from the desert Saddam Hussein had been one major means for the US to go on this punitive expedition.
Yep, the string of UN resolutions was so clear that the US and the coalition of the willing failed to gather a vote to enact the invasion and had to bypass the UN. This invasion was not done under UN authority. Stick to the fact.
The invasion against Iraq was a punitive expedition. Punitive expeditions are terrorism.
As I said earlier, your only will is to essentialize Islam. In islamic terrorism, you are not interested in terrorism, you are interested in Islam.
Euh no... I thought you got it it was not a matter of liking or not liking. Please stop talking to yourself. I never expressed any concern about liking, not liking the invasion in Iraq.
I simply stated that this invasion was a punitive expedition and that punitive expeditions are terrorism. By the way, to grant you what is yours, you were also the one who introduced the notion of scale in this.
The comment on the organized military under the command of a government is another silly comment
violently silly comment because I wonder what organization and military have to do with this.
The nazi shock troops were organized military under the command of a government. To their discharge, they always made it clear they were terror troops. Considering the current situation, this will probably deserve them.
Beside, does your figure include the number of terrorist actions led on warzones like Iraq and Aghanistan? Just curious...
It is as silly as to acknowledge that the war against Iraq was a punitive expedition and therefore terrorist.
The issue was indeed about children becoming radicalized and how Islam was used just the way you did to rationalize the invasion of Iraq.
Ummm by the way, the US have listed Pakistanis as the most likely UK citizens to lead terrorist actions on the US soil. The UK government allowed infiltration of pakistani communauties by US agents.
points at this population at the new potential threat reservoir or the fact that the US is seriously envisioning to deal Pakistan's issue? Yep, I really wonder...
Children are not radicalized by the way I "rationalize" the invation of Iraq; the are radicalized by learning the the islamic doctrine of holy war against unbelievers -- us.
And Pakistanis are the most likely UK citizens to be radicalized because they are muslims, and therefore recipients of the Jihadist message.
Naturally, a Hindu Indian or a Buddhist Thai would not listen to an islamic cleric.
I dont see what informing myself would change here because you definitively want to essentialize Islam in the stuff. If indeed I had a lack of information, this would change nothing in it.
Because you definitively want to essentialize Islam in this stuff.
A hindu Indian would not listen to an islamic cleric and I dont see what this has to do with terrorism perpetuated by hindus since there is.
By informing yourself you could learn about the content of islamic teaching and stop making these asinine excuses based on ignorance.
While there are Hindu terrorist in Sri Lanka, the Tamil is issue is a local and historical one. It is not based in Hindu teaching.
Only islam divides with world into the house of islam and the house of war and requires muslims to hate and fight the house of war ... us, you and me.
The children in the UK are not radicalised by islamic preachers only, period.
You come up with stuff that I already answered to.
It is the trademark of monotheistic beliefs to divide the world between the elected and the non elected, the pure and the impure, the faithful and the unfaithful. And it is also not about love between the two of them. Nothing specific to Islam there.
As to limiting hindu terrorism to Tamulh issue, well, it is funny. Maybe investigating Vishwa Hindu Parishad stuff?
Whatever, I noticed that suddenly the evil Indian society ummmm no...
It is specific to islam to preach hatred of and war against the unbelievers. It is specific to islam to have rules for treatment of the unbelievers in its holy book.
And that is not surprising, because islam was founded by ruler and spread by violent conquest.
And therefore it is not some unspecified "monotheistic" preacher which turn UK children into violent terrorists ("martyrs" in islamic terms). but islamic preachers.
All of this you would know if you read on the topic before commenting.
"It is specific to islam to preach hatred of and war against the unbelievers. It is specific to islam to have rules for treatment of the unbelievers in its holy book."
Specific?Really?Since When?
As to the other comment, of course not, it is not an unspecified religion for someone who keeps essentializing Islam in terms of terrorism.
Focusing on islamic terrorism gives indeed a first seat to Islam.
Funnily enough, I already answered to all of these points. You dont bring anything against them and keep hammering your points.
So back to the start: there was no differentiation between culture and religion in the old times... Politics was dissociated from religion through greek approach known as naturalism and so on...
Stop calling people to inform themselves when anytime they show able to debunk your propaganda...
You answered none of these points, and instead of informing yourself about the content ot islamic doctrine, you keep wearing your ignorance like a badge of honor. Bizarre!
Anyway, the fact is that the "radicalizing" of UK children that the article writes about is done by by muslim preachers, teaching them the tenets of islam: To hate and fight the Kuffars (us), until the whole world is united under Shariah.
The kuffars (Q'firs) are not you. The kuffars are the black Africans the Muslims failed to convert when they projected to conquer the african continent.
I answered to the points. You dismissed the answers without offering any counter point. That is different.
As to wearing my 'ignorance' like a badge of hounour,well, I am glad to do so considering my knowledge on the topic.
And your making up things as you go along is not substitute for knowledge.
It is obvious that you did not bother at all to even gather basic information about the topic.
Again, "radicalizing" of UK children that the article writes about is done by by muslim preachers, teaching them the tenets of islam: To hate and fight the Kuffars (us), until the whole world is united under Shariah.
Making things up? Certainly not. Kufar or Q'fir is the historical name of the black African polytheists which did not surrender their religion and the muslims failed to convert.
Once again, as any other abrahamic religion, Islam divides the world between the one who are faithful to the only god and the others. And like any other abramaic religion, how the heathen must be treated is told in the books.
Read contemporary sources and see how how islamic scholars like Al Qaradafi and Khomeini talk about Kuffars .. us.
And no, other Abrahamic religions do not divide the world into a house of believers and and house of war that must be fought until it surrenders. You will find nothing of the kind in e.g. the bible -- and that is why the world has islamic terrorism everywhere where islam meets non-islam; while Christians and Jews can live side by side with others.
there is only one god. But they are misguided in their perception of the only god. They are muslims or jewish people for the Christians and so on.
Depending on the flavour of Abrahamic beliefs, the corresponding categories more or less overlapped.
Now, in the case of Islam. Islam was both in contact with misbelievers and disbelievers. This mainly by the conquest of part of Africa (Maghreb, Egypt and so) and so on. Christians and Jewish people through crusades whereas disbelievers with
Just a remark: when the US started, there were pagan religions hold by Indians and negro slaves. Where are those religions?
What you are depicting as people living together is actually people who have reduced other religions to insignificant level and by the way, keep picking on them.
I would like to read on the places where Christians and Jewish people can live side by side with other religions.
Pope Urban II, as along overdue defensive reaction to the islamic jiahd, which had overrun the birthplace of Christianity and alread conquered half of Europe.
Without the crusades, you would bow to Mecca already five times a day, and we could have this talk.
All you did is to stop history at a certain point in time and assess what is going. Simply moving the cursor a litlte backwards may provide another answer.
No. I pointed out that the crusades that you keep bringing up were a _defensive reaction_ against the islamic Jihad, which preceded them.
Since then, the crusades have stopped, and the Jihad has been resumed --- extending even to little kids in the UK, which are being taught the jihadist message.
I sound like a broken record, but I can only repeat the advice: INFORM YOURSELF.
I keep bringing up crusades? Nope. I simply recalled that during the age of muslim conquest, muslims were put into contact with misbelievers (Christians and Jewish people) through crusades and with disbelievers, kuffars with the conquest of black lands.
You are the one who keep harping on crusades and the one seeing in it a clear cut issue.
What else? Yes, so Uganda is part of this everywhere?
I don´t know what that confused ramble is supposed to mean, and neither do you, apparently --- other than once again demonstrating that you refuse to inform yourself.
Once again: The crusades were a *defensive* action to the islamic conquest, which had overrun the holy places of Christianity and half of Europe.
Since then, the crusades have stopped, but the islamic jihad goes on in one way or another.
Please inform yourself, instead of basking in ignorance.
You are the one keeping coming up with the crusades.
Your linear reading of the crusades dismissed the very fact that the start of it was due to muslim infighting, with power switching from one faction to another. I wont go deep on this topic. It is useless since you keep bringing up crusades as sidetracking.
I also asked whether or not Uganda was part of the everywhere.
You keep wearing ignorance like a badge of honor...
You brought up the Crusades; I only pointed out that the Crusades were a defensive action against the Islamic conquest.
And yes, Uganda is part of "everywhere". In case you keep mentioning Uganda because you want to bring up the "Lords Resistance Armee", spare your effort. Those thugs have nothing to to with Christianity; to the contrary if anything they have links to islamists in Sudan.
The LRA (I could guess you would try that strawman) are not "people who base their actions on the bible", they are a terrorist group engaged in murder, rape, and slavery with strong connections to the islamist rulers in Sudan.
So save your ridiculous strawmen, and try to INFORM YOURSELF:
The LRA is not people who base their actions on the Bible? So a group fighting to impose a judeo christian society are not people basing their actions on the Bible?
The stubborness with which you repeat your false stereotypes instead of informing yourself is amazing.
The jihadist call to submit the world under islam is not a selective bit of islam, but an *essential* part of the doctrine. And no, "other religions" do not have such a political component, unless you are talking about e.g. ancient South American god kingdoms.
All of which you would know if you stopped spouting ignorance and informed yourself.
No, the LAR are obviously not "fighting to impose a judeo christian society". Nobody even knows exactly what their religious beliefs are, if they have any. Joseph Kony talks about 10 Commandments, but they obviously aren´t the biblical ones.
Notice that I haven´t called them muslims, either. I merely pointed out that the behaviour of the LRA absolutely contradicts christian doctrine. On the other hand, the terrorism and slave-taking are quite in line with islamic teachings.
"they are a terrorist group engaged in murder, rape, and slavery "
So because they are that and doing that, they would contradict the christian doctrine? Ummmmm, how so?
Terror is not condemned in the Bible.
Murder, rape and slavery also fit the Bible.
So what?
These guys lead an action based on the Bible. I am really surprised that you surrender your position to fail and see how Christianity "is *essential*" to their movement. How is that?
Terror, rape, and slavery is obviously not justified in Christianity, neither from the bible, nor from the life of the founder, nor from the teachings of the church.
In contrast, in islam, terror, rape, and slavery is was practised by its founder and is taught in the koran and sunna, which directly refer to him -- which is why islamic clerics condone it.
If you had done even basic homework, you would know that.
Terror is not justified in the Bible? How do you explain Peter's raid on a heathen camp then? Mind to do that? And I dont even speak of the previous book, which are by themselves justifications of rape, terror and slavery...
Are you joking or what? I told about Peter's raid on a heaten camp and you come up with your "not litteral model for Christians"? Even when I wrote "I dont even speak of the previous book"
For your learning, Peter was an apostle to Jesus Christ and he is part of the new testament story, not the old testament. Please take your bit of advice about doing your homework first. You dont even know Peter is an apostle to Jesus and part of the new testament...
You keep wearing your ignorance like a badge of honour.
It is IRRELEVANT what Peter did or did not at one point. Nobody can deduct from that that terrorism, rape, and slavery are normative behaviour to be emulated. And nobody has.
In case of islam, precisely that follows from the doctrine that Mohammed is the perfect man and Koran gods direct word, and plenty of pious believers do behave accordingly.
Which is why UK children are indoctrinated to terror by _muslim_ preachers.
While Christianity was certainly spread by the sword *sometimes*, these were always the actions of rulers who can converted. Not by Christian clerics.
Islam, to the contrary, is *based* on violent conquests, following its founder, who is considered the perfect man to be emulated.
And this is why children in the UK are not indoctrinated by radical Anglican bishops, but by radical muslim imams.
All of which you´d know if if you informed yourself.
You are the one indulging into cultural relativism. The behaviour of Apostle Peter should not be relevant. Christianity is not "*essential*" to terrorism in Uganda, Christianity is not the continuity of Judaism...
Stop masturbating by talking to yourself. Stop claiming others are at fault when you are the one exhibiting the behaviour you condemn...
What is comical is your thinking your repeating wrong statements is a substitute learning about the subject.
Among the abrahamic religions, only islam teaches that its law must literally applied to the whole world, by all means, including terrorism, until the whole world is submitted.
That is totally different from Christianity and Judamism, which accept the separation of religion and state.
And it should not surprise you, since islam was created by a ruler and sed for conquest.
Universality is an obvious feature in Christianity and Islam. There should be no waste time on that. But even judaism is universalist, even though the universalism is a bit different.
As to the question between separation of church and state, well, it was already answered. You did not take into account my answers and did not provide any kind of rebutal. Third time I recalled this to you.
As to your endless call for me to learn, do you really believe in it?
As for the separation of state, nothing was "answered". Instead of informing yourself about the topic, you simply repeated a simplistic talking point.
The fact is that islam was founded by a ruler and is therefore by nature different from a "religion". Islam has never known such separation, until today. The islamic leader (Mo himself, and and subsequent Caliphs) have always been both religious leader and ruler.
As for my advice for you to learn, alas I no, I fear you won´t.
"As for the separation of state, nothing was "answered". Instead of informing yourself about the topic, you simply repeated a simplistic talking point."
It is your own opinion. You are keep calling me to inform myself and when I provide evidences I informed myself on the topic, you keep your opinion "simplistic talking point" Which is merely your opinion. You cant offer a rebutal.
Would you mind providing those countries where Christian and jewish people living side by side with other people?
If the topic was not so serious, your reply would be hilarious!
You are seriously comparing the world-wide jihadist terrorism that has brought us 9/11, the London and Madrid subway bombings, and thousands of murderous similar acts every years to "radical vegetarians"??
This G20 meeting will give us nothing then the cognition that the ruling class has not learned anything from the failures of Maria Antoinette and will end the same way.
England and USA as the inventors of toxic assets and the modern CDS bubble game are not willing to reduce there financial sectors.
And they more and more make clear that we have to pay for there crisis. There is no talk about additional millionaire tax or increasing income tax. No the poor will be poorer on 3 April.
Capitalism is like a novel (ie its a human creation and can be changed by humans).
We should create a system where people benefit by creating a better environment or a more equal and happier society rather than by private destructive greed.
In this new world, the humble lavatory cleaners would receive a higher reward than armaments manufacturers.
Lavatory cleaners make the world a safer place to live in while armaments manufacturers do not.
You guys want some truth. Try typing in anyone who has mentioned rebelling, resistance or anything similar and the havel been red flagged. Some examples when you type in vision victory, George4title, Bunker report. Entime watchman it will not search as you type. Now I have watched all Manoftruth vids and he never has said anything about a resistance and his name will search as you type. So yes you are being monitored by YTPD.
hey fever I like your work and without sounding like a complete ass leach we need more people like you bringing out the news ... always interested in your vids ... great job brother
Mike asks that people on this channel refrain from swearing. He doesn't care if you tell him off, just to watch the words used. Please respect that. If we don't respect each other, who will?
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* Forced savings schemes, designed to suck up excess liquidity. These savings schemes may be described as pensions schemes, emergency funds, war funds, or something similar. * Adjusting the components of the Consumer price index, to remove those items whose prices are rising the fastest.
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I would like to point out to people, that ONLY western bamks are affected by this fiasco.
Yes, you have China, Japan and all the other countries who are "involved" in our bankng system (which is all the UN and NATO and EU countries, and even india and pakistan).
But the remainders are:
Iran
Nth Korea
Syia
Iraq (until recently)
Afganistan (until recently)
They are the "Axis of Evil" BECAUSE they choose to have their own banks ! The WONT sleep with Rothschild !!!
According to the guardian its due to fears over the car industry....
...that one must have snuck up on them eh?
Is the world really run by muppets? I'm beginning to think not in terms of conspiracies but in terms of arrogance, ignorance and stupidity. Oh and stupidity (needs to be mentioned twice.) I want to go (((home))). :p
DJIA over 200 down straight away. Interesting. What news are you city boys and girls watching? I didn't understand the Bear rally and I don't understand this spooking either?
There is nothing major happening story wise unless the world is really that upset about porn vids on expense accounts (Ignore that story it's a sham).
Also I suspect we will soon be hearing a down in salary increase for MP's 2.3% is a bit high given the problems so expect a happy retraction for the benefit of the nation
i heard a story that japan was spooked by the geitner comment that banks will need large amount of money yet to come. Other than this GM fired Wagoner and the g20 coming?>???
I get it but the double talk coming out of Washington i wouldnt be surprised to see some of this speculation happening. IE, the dollar is still the reserve currency but we are looking at gold and other regional currencies as well. Which in lay terms means the dollar is not the reserve any longer but who knows at this point
'Which in lay terms means the dollar is not the reserve any longer but who knows at this point'
Lol spot on ;) I'm lost TBH hoping Mike will enlighten me. Cause God knows i'm ot getting any sense out of the media. I doubt the markets will be commented on at all.
I read a lot... simple. Takes time, b ut you learn so many things you never thought about. I could set up Google alerts or whatever - but what to 'alert' on? for that you need to read :-)
Let them eat cake. Let the peasants rot. That's the kind of arrogant elitism that fueled the guillotine...and a major revolution. My hat's off to the G-20 protestors for their efforts.
...mmh...? Wha...aaAh! He's awake again...quick...wait...! Why is he loose...? No..just...hey! Someone take away the keyboard..take away...aaahhh! Eat the mouse...smash the m...oh he doubleclicked, already...
*SIGH*
...okay, chief! Bring 'em on...
...but I'm gonna sleep first...
...'cause It takes at least an hour to cope with one of your broadcasts...
Kinda new at exploring youtube. Got to say however that the information that is obtainable through to individuals around the world is invaluable indeed. I want to thank Mike for his reporting efforts occurring in our world, economy, politics. Great work Mike....thanks, Rick
Part 2: He had a highly stressful job & there was talk of divorce. He snapped. The fallout in my family, and in his amazing children, my neice & nephew, 2 say nothing of my poor sister has been immense. Pls b careful all! We need you on the planet. Peace Out.
Mike, Apropos of nothing but urgent nonetheless, I'm asking everyone 2 b extremely careful arnd guns. My sis n her husb had purchased some 2 protect agnst home invasion. The nite b4 last @ 2AM, my bro-in-law used a shotgun to blow his head off. Fortunately, my sister & her son @ home (dtr was @ sleepover) had gotten out of the house b4 he could turn the gun on them. Part 1
Europe to print money? Maybe yes but from the words of a EU burocrat you can interprete what ever you want.
The AEP article is the usual AEP´s smelling internal semisolid body deposition. I wonder how much he gets paid by US-UK propaganda machine he serves in such a slimy way.
well no matter what the idiots do we can still have our own local money without tax or interest, by using your own you keep the wealth in your local economy, barter bucks, you could use gold to back it up, have its own bank to hold the gold and print the money as the gold supply is increased, loans at o%, no factual banking, as gold goes up or down it would reflect how rich or poor your community is, but if this caught on there would be less gold around and the value would always go up
I think Soros is not just an independent investor - he is an agent of the elite; if we listen carefully to what he says we can learn a lot about where THEY want this crisis to go. which in my opinion is global central banking & a global standard monetary unit (not a currency initially).
the G20 is the last chance. the LEAP folks dont see there being a change of heart by the politicians; neither do i.
they will continue to try to save the system and thereby propell us all into total collapse.
About the "Police identify 200 children as potential terrorists" -- sorry to say you got that tragically wrong.
It is not about the evil police now monitoring little kids in the classroom; it is about young kids being indoctrinated by fundamentalist islamists. And all the material that they need for that, they find alas in the koran and the haddiths.
So don´t belittle that problem please, especially not if you have a daughter who in the future might have to live in the Sharia UK.
Well, he is not alone then. I'm about to learn stuff here.
"it is about young kids being indoctrinated by fundamentalist islamists. "
Really? Yet the article reads about "parents and other community figures to be vigilant for signs that may indicate an attraction to extreme views or susceptibility to being "groomed" by radicalisers. Sir Norman, whose force covers the area in which all four 7 July 2005 bombers grew up,
"Reaction to their environment" -- so the evil West is responsible for these young guys going on the jihaad?
Then how do you explain that they behave EXACTLY like jihadists in Pakistan, India, Thailand, the Philippines, Nigeria, Chechnia, China, Indonesia, and any number of other non-Western countries?
Sorry, but this Judeo-Christian-PC tendency to blame everything on "the West" does not stand a reality check.
Committing terrorism against unbelievers (and secular fellow believers) until they agree to submit under Shariah.
What is there not to understand?
If somehow the West is to blame for creating muslim suicide bombers, then where do the muslim suicide bombers in e.g. Pakistan get the very same idea from.
Again, it this PC tendency to blame *our* society for muslim terrorism does not stand a reality check.
Very weak. Where did the kamizaze get their idea? In the Qran?
I wonder what line in this book is called people to blow themselves up. Mind to provide?
What is labelled as terrorism existed before. Violence is used to obtain submission. Nothing new.
That it is PC to claim that there is a possibility of endogenous terrorism, give me a break, the PC version is your claim, the one telling that people come to the idea to blow themselves up reading a book that contains no line on that.
The fact is there are obvious holes in current societies which are failing to meet some self proclaimed objectives. After that, indeed, it is better to hide these failed objectives under something else.
Currently, the predominant covert is Islam. Before and still on, it was race. In one hundred years, it will something else.
The kamikaze pilots were willing to sacrifice themselves for their emperor, who they considered as god. That is indeed comparable to the islamic concept of "martyrdom", although they were not promised 72 virgins...
And yes, the promise of paradise for dying in the course of jihad is all over islamic teaching (see Bukhari 1-2.35 for example). The imams who preach jihad and martyrdom in mosques, probably even in your neighbourhood didn´t just invent it out of thin air.
You did not answer the question. Did those kamikaze fish it in the Qran?
Martyrdom, Jihad, dying for a cause... Can be found in many, many other creeds. I wonder who the weirdo is who claimed "give me liberty or give me death"
No, the kamikazes found it in militaristic interpretation of Shinto at the time. Which is why this "religion" was abolished. After surrender, the emperor went on radio and declared that he, in fact, is not a God.
And yes, other religions have a concept of martyrdom. Notice the difference, though: A Christian martyr allows himself to be killed by the enemies. He does *not* get rewarded for killing non-Christians. That is an islamic monopoly.
noooooow toooday you act like a news man\
tommy19470rocks 2 years ago
aaah oomg i dont' have enough silver!! its getting too late!! okay sorry i paniced ...
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
this gu is a tossA he needs to speak with a firm voice and confidence if he wants to adress people as a reporter
wannabsexy 2 years ago
really? when he said "things" were going down, i totally understood what he meant :P
TheMetalPerson 2 years ago
we just all need to stop playing "the game" the government wants us to play...
mastermoneystar 2 years ago 3
Dude have a drink of water or something...
rulebrittaniaPTBB 2 years ago
We in Norway won`t be printing any money. GL you guys in EU hahaha
mrmorg79 2 years ago
Hey Mike. Thanks for the vid. BTW You look like a 70's rock star with that stache. (probably a drummer)
JRCrowley 2 years ago
Oh so no new video today :(?
extenders 2 years ago
Okay normally i am not surprised by the stupidity of the state .... but terrorist children? do the police want to be chased with pitchforks and strung up?
sypherffs 2 years ago
200,000 kids in the UK are going to madarassas, being indoctrinated.
That is the breeding ground for the next subway bombers, airport bombers, jihadists of all stripes.
All that is required is early and thorough indoctrination, and plenty of them are getting that.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Wasnt you who wanted to talk about context?
The greek influence was topical to show what was what.
As to the other comment, back to the start, you keep acting as if the kids spoken in the article went through the little routine you keep harping on. They did not.
You definitively decided to essentialize Islam in your trip. Thanks for confiming some of my Povs.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Islam *is* essential to this, that is the whole point.
There is no danger from radical vegetarians or or radical buddhists.
Is is young muslims who are taught to go on jihad, and it is young muslims who will commit the next terroist act in Europe.
That is the whole point. All this politically correct talk of "radicalism" without identifying the context is just obfuscation.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
The statement that there is no danger from radical buddists and veggies show that indeed you essentialize Islam, with a will to ignore people's actions when they dont go against Islam.
Radical vegetarians have taken destructive path sometimes and Tibet was somehow strange before China put an end to its strangeness.
As to ignoring the context, well, I think I provided evidences I am not the one ignoring the context.
This is what my point and what the article underlines and what you dismissed
TheCZMan 2 years ago
I underlined how the context was what produces the fertile ground for radicalizers to operate. You came up with all the blabla on western evil and stuff like that.
Even when I outlined that religious people do not behave according to their religious beliefs, you keep arguing that I dismiss the context. Which leads me to think that you dont want to discuss, taking nothing objected to your points into account. At this point...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
I didn´t "come out on blabla about Western evil", and you did not "outline" anything of the sort.
Once again, the islamic jihadists behave exactly according their religious beliefs. Alas for us, their religious beliefs include hatred against us.
And your repeating that you don´t believe that does not change the fact.
The "radicalism" that is mentioned in the article is simply radical islam. Even if we find it politically incorrect to acknowledge that.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Wooo, if indeed it is a measure of scale you require, I suggest you consider who is doing what and up to what amount: the supposed retaliation for 9,11 was the war against Iraq which has done so much more casualties than the terrorist events.
Of course, not I did operate a comparison on scale because those are insane comparisons.
As to coming with the blabla "western evil", you did.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
quote""Reaction to their environment" -- so the evil West is responsible for these young guys going on the jihaad?"
Again, your stance is not politically uncorrect because it is the common stance.
It is not a matter of belief but observation.
Religious pious people do not behave according to their religious books.
Keeping hammering the falsehood that religious people behave according to what their books say wont change it.
Good luck in finding a muslim who does that.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Strawman.
The Iraq invasion was misguided, in my opion. But it was never meant as a "retaliation for 9/11", and it was a government action, not terrorism.
Don´t invent things and don´t mix up topics, please.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Invasion against Iraq was not meant as a retaliation to 9,11? That is news.
As to being terrorism, well, terrorism having such a loose definition...
Whatsoever, please feel free to ignore it.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
No, the invasion of Iraq was absolutely *not* meant as a "retaliation for 9/11". If that is news to you, you only demonstrate your ignorance.
As for terrorism, lets just stick with the things we usually associate with it: Blowing up trains, busses, airplanes, flying airplanes into buildings, beheading members of other religions, etc etc....
and you know who does that. Hint: Not radical vegetarians...
Derukugi2 2 years ago
I really wonder why the US people spent so much to try to link Iraq to Al Qaeda then...
In terrorist actions, other stuff like punitive expedition, mob lynching US negro style must also be included...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
"linking Iraq to Al Quaeda" is not the same as "retaliation for 9/11".
Decide what you talk about.
And yes, you could call "mob lynching US negro style" as terrorism. However, it does not happen any more, and there is nobody preaching it as a religion and promising paradise for it.
Thanks for underlining the point...
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Actually, I did not refer to the mob lynching US negro style but to the punitive expedition on Iraq.
The war against Iraq was powered by the very same mindset that powered mob lynching US negroes style.
Somebody had to pay after 9,01. Iraq was elected and a punitive expedition unleashed.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
The invasion of Iraq (which I think was a mistake), was neither a "retaliation for 9/11", nor a "punitive expedition".
There was long way leading up to it, from the first Gulf war, to the UN sanctions regime, to the fear of Saddam passing on wmds.
Read up on history, before making such ridiculously simplistic statements.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Well, technically speaking, it is not yet history.
It is not a matter of thinking this or that being a mistake. It is a matter of looking straight at face.
I happened to be on the Internet during the pre war period and this allowed me to gather a lot of information on it by interacting with US citizens.
There is absolutely nothing in the UN resolutions concerning a connection with 9,11, Al Qaeda and the invasion of Iraq.
Absolutely nothing. Not only that, but the UN bureau rejected
TheCZMan 2 years ago
the evidences brought up by the US.
For this war to be started, the US (and the coalition of the willing)had to bypass the UN. Picturing it as being the terminal station of the UN attitude to Iraq is unfounded.
Indeed, building a supposedly link between Al Qaeda, the group behind 9,11 and the mad man from the desert Saddam Hussein had been one major means for the US to go on this punitive expedition.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
There is a string of UN resolutions requiring Iraq to comply with the surrender conditions. Legally, the Iraq invasion was on firm grounds.
That it was a mistake and a naive miscalculation is a different question.
And in any case, it is has nothing to do with terrorism. It was political decision, passed and carried out in a legal manner.
That is entirely different from teaching kids to hate and kill unbelievers in the name of god.
So stop mixing issues please.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Yep, the string of UN resolutions was so clear that the US and the coalition of the willing failed to gather a vote to enact the invasion and had to bypass the UN. This invasion was not done under UN authority. Stick to the fact.
The invasion against Iraq was a punitive expedition. Punitive expeditions are terrorism.
As I said earlier, your only will is to essentialize Islam. In islamic terrorism, you are not interested in terrorism, you are interested in Islam.
Something I forget to
TheCZMan 2 years ago
I forgot to underline is that you also quickly evaded the issue of Tibet to focus on mocking terrorism brought up by radical veggies.
Should have done earlier because it showed that your main interest is not terrorism but well and only Islam.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
If islam was not the cause of islamic terrorism, I would not have any interest in it.
With 11,000 islamic terrorist acts committed since 9/11 alone (and that is a random starting point), yes my interest is piqued and so should yours.
Unlike you, I have gone through the trouble to study it. Which I highly recommend to you too.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Sorry, but that is ridiculous. If you expand the term "terrorism" to every government decision you dont like, it is everything and nothing.
Whatever you think about the Iraq invasion, it was carried out by an organized military, under order from a government.
That is not what we are are talking about when we talk about radicalizing children.
They are radicalized by people teaching the religion of jihad, and yes, that is islam and islam only.
You can´t wiggle out of that.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Euh no... I thought you got it it was not a matter of liking or not liking. Please stop talking to yourself. I never expressed any concern about liking, not liking the invasion in Iraq.
I simply stated that this invasion was a punitive expedition and that punitive expeditions are terrorism. By the way, to grant you what is yours, you were also the one who introduced the notion of scale in this.
The comment on the organized military under the command of a government is another silly comment
TheCZMan 2 years ago
violently silly comment because I wonder what organization and military have to do with this.
The nazi shock troops were organized military under the command of a government. To their discharge, they always made it clear they were terror troops. Considering the current situation, this will probably deserve them.
Beside, does your figure include the number of terrorist actions led on warzones like Iraq and Aghanistan? Just curious...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
It is silly to label the Iraq invasion as "terrorism", but you can believe what you want. It is irrelevant to the topic that started this thread.
That was the children in UK being radicalised.
And they are radicalized by someone preaching them Iraq invasions -- they are radicalized by muslim preachers teaching the jihad.
Therefore it is impossible to blank out islam from the topic.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
It is as silly as to acknowledge that the war against Iraq was a punitive expedition and therefore terrorist.
The issue was indeed about children becoming radicalized and how Islam was used just the way you did to rationalize the invasion of Iraq.
Ummm by the way, the US have listed Pakistanis as the most likely UK citizens to lead terrorist actions on the US soil. The UK government allowed infiltration of pakistani communauties by US agents.
I really wonder:is it Islam which suddenly
TheCZMan 2 years ago
points at this population at the new potential threat reservoir or the fact that the US is seriously envisioning to deal Pakistan's issue? Yep, I really wonder...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Children are not radicalized by the way I "rationalize" the invation of Iraq; the are radicalized by learning the the islamic doctrine of holy war against unbelievers -- us.
And Pakistanis are the most likely UK citizens to be radicalized because they are muslims, and therefore recipients of the Jihadist message.
Naturally, a Hindu Indian or a Buddhist Thai would not listen to an islamic cleric.
You REALLY should inform yourself.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
I dont see what informing myself would change here because you definitively want to essentialize Islam in the stuff. If indeed I had a lack of information, this would change nothing in it.
Because you definitively want to essentialize Islam in this stuff.
A hindu Indian would not listen to an islamic cleric and I dont see what this has to do with terrorism perpetuated by hindus since there is.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
By informing yourself you could learn about the content of islamic teaching and stop making these asinine excuses based on ignorance.
While there are Hindu terrorist in Sri Lanka, the Tamil is issue is a local and historical one. It is not based in Hindu teaching.
Only islam divides with world into the house of islam and the house of war and requires muslims to hate and fight the house of war ... us, you and me.
The children in the UK are not radicalised by islamic preachers only, period.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
You come up with stuff that I already answered to.
It is the trademark of monotheistic beliefs to divide the world between the elected and the non elected, the pure and the impure, the faithful and the unfaithful. And it is also not about love between the two of them. Nothing specific to Islam there.
As to limiting hindu terrorism to Tamulh issue, well, it is funny. Maybe investigating Vishwa Hindu Parishad stuff?
Whatever, I noticed that suddenly the evil Indian society ummmm no...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
It is specific to islam to preach hatred of and war against the unbelievers. It is specific to islam to have rules for treatment of the unbelievers in its holy book.
And that is not surprising, because islam was founded by ruler and spread by violent conquest.
And therefore it is not some unspecified "monotheistic" preacher which turn UK children into violent terrorists ("martyrs" in islamic terms). but islamic preachers.
All of this you would know if you read on the topic before commenting.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
"It is specific to islam to preach hatred of and war against the unbelievers. It is specific to islam to have rules for treatment of the unbelievers in its holy book."
Specific?Really?Since When?
As to the other comment, of course not, it is not an unspecified religion for someone who keeps essentializing Islam in terms of terrorism.
Focusing on islamic terrorism gives indeed a first seat to Islam.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Yes, specific to islam. And since its founding.
You do not find political concepts such as Shariah, Fitna, Jizah, etc. in other religions.
You would know that you stopped spouting and started informing yourself.
And no, I am not essentializing islam in terms of terrorims, islam is essentializing islam in terms of terrorism.
"Terrorism is from islam and whoever denies that is an infidel."
Saved Imam Abdul-Aziz el-Sherif
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Funnily enough, I already answered to all of these points. You dont bring anything against them and keep hammering your points.
So back to the start: there was no differentiation between culture and religion in the old times... Politics was dissociated from religion through greek approach known as naturalism and so on...
Stop calling people to inform themselves when anytime they show able to debunk your propaganda...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Ah, yes, the call to kill the unbeliever is absolutely not specific to Islam. It is found in every abramahic monotheist branch.
Anyone could also mischaracterize Judaism or Christianity by using one quote by one priest.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
You answered none of these points, and instead of informing yourself about the content ot islamic doctrine, you keep wearing your ignorance like a badge of honor. Bizarre!
Anyway, the fact is that the "radicalizing" of UK children that the article writes about is done by by muslim preachers, teaching them the tenets of islam: To hate and fight the Kuffars (us), until the whole world is united under Shariah.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
The kuffars (Q'firs) are not you. The kuffars are the black Africans the Muslims failed to convert when they projected to conquer the african continent.
I answered to the points. You dismissed the answers without offering any counter point. That is different.
As to wearing my 'ignorance' like a badge of hounour,well, I am glad to do so considering my knowledge on the topic.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
LOL!
Nope, the kuffars are you and me.
And your making up things as you go along is not substitute for knowledge.
It is obvious that you did not bother at all to even gather basic information about the topic.
Again, "radicalizing" of UK children that the article writes about is done by by muslim preachers, teaching them the tenets of islam: To hate and fight the Kuffars (us), until the whole world is united under Shariah.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Making things up? Certainly not. Kufar or Q'fir is the historical name of the black African polytheists which did not surrender their religion and the muslims failed to convert.
Once again, as any other abrahamic religion, Islam divides the world between the one who are faithful to the only god and the others. And like any other abramaic religion, how the heathen must be treated is told in the books.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
"Black" has nothing to do with it.
Read contemporary sources and see how how islamic scholars like Al Qaradafi and Khomeini talk about Kuffars .. us.
And no, other Abrahamic religions do not divide the world into a house of believers and and house of war that must be fought until it surrenders. You will find nothing of the kind in e.g. the bible -- and that is why the world has islamic terrorism everywhere where islam meets non-islam; while Christians and Jews can live side by side with others.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Comical.
The abrahamic religions all divides the world between those who follow the one god and the others.
There are three categories for the others:
The unbeliever: it comprizes the atheists, the agnostic, the uncaring for god and the renegate.
They are all marked for death.
The disbelievers: those ones have a knowledge of god but they dont accept there is only one god. Pagans, heathen or stuff like that.
Misbelievers: the misbelievers have a knowledge of god and they accept
TheCZMan 2 years ago
there is only one god. But they are misguided in their perception of the only god. They are muslims or jewish people for the Christians and so on.
Depending on the flavour of Abrahamic beliefs, the corresponding categories more or less overlapped.
Now, in the case of Islam. Islam was both in contact with misbelievers and disbelievers. This mainly by the conquest of part of Africa (Maghreb, Egypt and so) and so on. Christians and Jewish people through crusades whereas disbelievers with
TheCZMan 2 years ago
the conquest of countries in black lands.
Christians and Jewish were not called Kuffars but dhimmis, a sub standard of the righteous religious people and declared somehow friendly people.
Kuffars were to be found in pagan people, mostly austral Africa who resisted the spread of the muslim faith.
Funnily enough, you keep calling me to inform myself.
Whatever, this is not the point is that you are again showing your true colours.
You said "Christians and Jews can live side by side
TheCZMan 2 years ago
with others" Where?
Just a remark: when the US started, there were pagan religions hold by Indians and negro slaves. Where are those religions?
What you are depicting as people living together is actually people who have reduced other religions to insignificant level and by the way, keep picking on them.
I would like to read on the places where Christians and Jewish people can live side by side with other religions.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Christians and Jews manage to live side by side with other religions *everywhere*.
Muslim minorities agitate for a Shariah law and separation from their host society everywhere where they are in the minority.
And they oppress other religions everywhere where they are in the majority.
And if you had done even minimal homework on the topic, you would understand why and not make these asinine claims.
Again, those kids in the UK are NOT radicalist by Christian or Jewish jihadists.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Crusades were a defensive action against the Jihad.
The Crusades stopped 1000 years ago, the Jihad goes on.
Please inform yourself before spouting.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Being able to clear cut the topic of who started the crusade that quickly and what it was shows your inclination.
History shows you are factually incorrect when it comes to oppression of religious minorities.
The law of the land is a concern for monotheistic people. All of them. Every abrahamic religion requires that its religion is given a special place.
In everywhere, do you include places like Uganda? I am just curious.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
It is clear cut who started the first crusade:
Pope Urban II, as along overdue defensive reaction to the islamic jiahd, which had overrun the birthplace of Christianity and alread conquered half of Europe.
Without the crusades, you would bow to Mecca already five times a day, and we could have this talk.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK please!
Derukugi2 2 years ago
All you did is to stop history at a certain point in time and assess what is going. Simply moving the cursor a litlte backwards may provide another answer.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
No. I pointed out that the crusades that you keep bringing up were a _defensive reaction_ against the islamic Jihad, which preceded them.
Since then, the crusades have stopped, and the Jihad has been resumed --- extending even to little kids in the UK, which are being taught the jihadist message.
I sound like a broken record, but I can only repeat the advice: INFORM YOURSELF.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
I keep bringing up crusades? Nope. I simply recalled that during the age of muslim conquest, muslims were put into contact with misbelievers (Christians and Jewish people) through crusades and with disbelievers, kuffars with the conquest of black lands.
You are the one who keep harping on crusades and the one seeing in it a clear cut issue.
What else? Yes, so Uganda is part of this everywhere?
TheCZMan 2 years ago
I don´t know what that confused ramble is supposed to mean, and neither do you, apparently --- other than once again demonstrating that you refuse to inform yourself.
Once again: The crusades were a *defensive* action to the islamic conquest, which had overrun the holy places of Christianity and half of Europe.
Since then, the crusades have stopped, but the islamic jihad goes on in one way or another.
Please inform yourself, instead of basking in ignorance.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
You are the one keeping coming up with the crusades.
Your linear reading of the crusades dismissed the very fact that the start of it was due to muslim infighting, with power switching from one faction to another. I wont go deep on this topic. It is useless since you keep bringing up crusades as sidetracking.
I also asked whether or not Uganda was part of the everywhere.
Keep waiting for this answer.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
You keep wearing ignorance like a badge of honor...
You brought up the Crusades; I only pointed out that the Crusades were a defensive action against the Islamic conquest.
And yes, Uganda is part of "everywhere". In case you keep mentioning Uganda because you want to bring up the "Lords Resistance Armee", spare your effort. Those thugs have nothing to to with Christianity; to the contrary if anything they have links to islamists in Sudan.
INFORM YOURSELF please.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
How convenient is it? I really wonder how people who base their actions on the Bible have nothing to do with Christianity.
Suddenly Christianity should not be essential in their actions?
Comical. Double standards, double standards...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
The LRA (I could guess you would try that strawman) are not "people who base their actions on the bible", they are a terrorist group engaged in murder, rape, and slavery with strong connections to the islamist rulers in Sudan.
So save your ridiculous strawmen, and try to INFORM YOURSELF:
Derukugi2 2 years ago
The LRA is not people who base their actions on the Bible? So a group fighting to impose a judeo christian society are not people basing their actions on the Bible?
Fine one.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
As to ridiculous strawmen, what about guilt by association? They supposedly associate with Sudanese who are associated with Chinese.
Talibans associated with the US people.
Stop masturbating and take a break from discussing with yourself.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
It is regrettable that Instead of doing something about your ignorance, you resort to name-calling.
The basic dogma inslam is that Mohammed is the perfect man and the Koran the direct and literal command of god.
Which is why pious muslim follow the brutal commands of the Koran and the violent behaviour of M. to the letter.
Which is why the world has a problem with *islamic* jihad and not fictious Catholic jihad.
Please stop embarrassing yourself and do some homework.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Name calling? New one.
Again, it is easy to find partial followers in any kind of religious creed but absolute, very difficult. Muslims are not different in here.
You are the one taking out bits of Islam and single out people who follow these bits.
When introduced to other people in different religions doing the same, suddenly, it is no longer "*essential*"
TheCZMan 2 years ago
The stubborness with which you repeat your false stereotypes instead of informing yourself is amazing.
The jihadist call to submit the world under islam is not a selective bit of islam, but an *essential* part of the doctrine. And no, "other religions" do not have such a political component, unless you are talking about e.g. ancient South American god kingdoms.
All of which you would know if you stopped spouting ignorance and informed yourself.
Derukugi2 2 years ago 2
No, the LAR are obviously not "fighting to impose a judeo christian society". Nobody even knows exactly what their religious beliefs are, if they have any. Joseph Kony talks about 10 Commandments, but they obviously aren´t the biblical ones.
Notice that I haven´t called them muslims, either. I merely pointed out that the behaviour of the LRA absolutely contradicts christian doctrine. On the other hand, the terrorism and slave-taking are quite in line with islamic teachings.
Please learn.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Dont worry, I am learning.
"they are a terrorist group engaged in murder, rape, and slavery "
So because they are that and doing that, they would contradict the christian doctrine? Ummmmm, how so?
Terror is not condemned in the Bible.
Murder, rape and slavery also fit the Bible.
So what?
These guys lead an action based on the Bible. I am really surprised that you surrender your position to fail and see how Christianity "is *essential*" to their movement. How is that?
TheCZMan 2 years ago
No, alas you are not learning.
Repeating false stereotypes is not "learning".
Terror, rape, and slavery is obviously not justified in Christianity, neither from the bible, nor from the life of the founder, nor from the teachings of the church.
In contrast, in islam, terror, rape, and slavery is was practised by its founder and is taught in the koran and sunna, which directly refer to him -- which is why islamic clerics condone it.
If you had done even basic homework, you would know that.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Are you kidding or what?
Terror is not justified in the Bible? How do you explain Peter's raid on a heathen camp then? Mind to do that? And I dont even speak of the previous book, which are by themselves justifications of rape, terror and slavery...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
You continue demonstrating ignorance, instead of learning.
Again: The Old Testament *precedes* Christianity. What happened between Jewish tribes and others is history; not a literal role model for Christians.
Mohammed, on the other hand, lead raids, took slaves, killed, raped, and kept a harem.
Anf if you are a pious muslim, that is a normative standard for you, because he is the perfect man to be emulated.
Which you would know if you did your homework, instead of spouting.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Are you joking or what? I told about Peter's raid on a heaten camp and you come up with your "not litteral model for Christians"? Even when I wrote "I dont even speak of the previous book"
For your learning, Peter was an apostle to Jesus Christ and he is part of the new testament story, not the old testament. Please take your bit of advice about doing your homework first. You dont even know Peter is an apostle to Jesus and part of the new testament...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
You keep wearing your ignorance like a badge of honour.
It is IRRELEVANT what Peter did or did not at one point. Nobody can deduct from that that terrorism, rape, and slavery are normative behaviour to be emulated. And nobody has.
In case of islam, precisely that follows from the doctrine that Mohammed is the perfect man and Koran gods direct word, and plenty of pious believers do behave accordingly.
Which is why UK children are indoctrinated to terror by _muslim_ preachers.
Do your homework
Derukugi2 2 years ago
It is irrelevant how an apostle behaved? Including Peter's specific actions?
Get a grip. If this episode is not meaningful, I wonder what episode can be.
Of course people had. The Christians when they christianized Europe adopted this behaviour, based on the holy scriptures.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
More ignorance and cultural relativism.
While Christianity was certainly spread by the sword *sometimes*, these were always the actions of rulers who can converted. Not by Christian clerics.
Islam, to the contrary, is *based* on violent conquests, following its founder, who is considered the perfect man to be emulated.
And this is why children in the UK are not indoctrinated by radical Anglican bishops, but by radical muslim imams.
All of which you´d know if if you informed yourself.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
You are the one indulging into cultural relativism. The behaviour of Apostle Peter should not be relevant. Christianity is not "*essential*" to terrorism in Uganda, Christianity is not the continuity of Judaism...
Stop masturbating by talking to yourself. Stop claiming others are at fault when you are the one exhibiting the behaviour you condemn...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
What is comical is your thinking your repeating wrong statements is a substitute learning about the subject.
Among the abrahamic religions, only islam teaches that its law must literally applied to the whole world, by all means, including terrorism, until the whole world is submitted.
That is totally different from Christianity and Judamism, which accept the separation of religion and state.
And it should not surprise you, since islam was created by a ruler and sed for conquest.
Please learn
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Universality is an obvious feature in Christianity and Islam. There should be no waste time on that. But even judaism is universalist, even though the universalism is a bit different.
As to the question between separation of church and state, well, it was already answered. You did not take into account my answers and did not provide any kind of rebutal. Third time I recalled this to you.
As to your endless call for me to learn, do you really believe in it?
TheCZMan 2 years ago
As for the separation of state, nothing was "answered". Instead of informing yourself about the topic, you simply repeated a simplistic talking point.
The fact is that islam was founded by a ruler and is therefore by nature different from a "religion". Islam has never known such separation, until today. The islamic leader (Mo himself, and and subsequent Caliphs) have always been both religious leader and ruler.
As for my advice for you to learn, alas I no, I fear you won´t.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
"As for the separation of state, nothing was "answered". Instead of informing yourself about the topic, you simply repeated a simplistic talking point."
It is your own opinion. You are keep calling me to inform myself and when I provide evidences I informed myself on the topic, you keep your opinion "simplistic talking point" Which is merely your opinion. You cant offer a rebutal.
Would you mind providing those countries where Christian and jewish people living side by side with other people?
TheCZMan 2 years ago
If the topic was not so serious, your reply would be hilarious!
You are seriously comparing the world-wide jihadist terrorism that has brought us 9/11, the London and Madrid subway bombings, and thousands of murderous similar acts every years to "radical vegetarians"??
Absurd.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
That is a one eyed view but from the looks of it they aren't the only ones suffering from indoctrination.
sypherffs 2 years ago
I am having FeverIam withdrawls. U need to do a piece man. I can't take it anymore.
flyfish27 2 years ago
I think you should have kept the goatie :)
billybobobaba 2 years ago
Everyone is a potential terrorist.
odomaniac 2 years ago
Mike don´t be PC, it´s islamic terrorism
Sturmpionier03 2 years ago
I'm not PC - i have young children - who read these comments while watching me 'on the move'. Respect that please
FeverIAm 2 years ago
PC Fever, huh hu hu hu, ha hahahahahahha,
Wmuhahahahahahahahahahahah!
I can't see it.
'Good morning, good afternoon and good evening you are under arrest, peace love and a kick in the ribs.'
Yes I know he meant politically correct but I went on a tangent. Use pythagorus and follow along.
Some interesting comments on WP today Mike. especially the CCTV article from the guardian.
Peace.
carlrogan 2 years ago
Hey Mike- loving your work. You should come to the square mile on Wed- despite the media frenzy it'll be an interesting day!
Check out the climatecamp UK website. (can't seem to post link).
Binge 2 years ago
I would love to see what goes on - but I'll be in Paris!
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Well ok then...... but be in London for the Climate Camp Part II- 26th August to 2nd Sept! (Part III is Copenhagen!)
Binge 2 years ago
Mike! Tomorrow is already gone by! We want new video please! :D
extenders 2 years ago
Working on it! I'm in Paris... so no idea how long the upload will take!
FeverIAm 2 years ago
This G20 meeting will give us nothing then the cognition that the ruling class has not learned anything from the failures of Maria Antoinette and will end the same way.
England and USA as the inventors of toxic assets and the modern CDS bubble game are not willing to reduce there financial sectors.
And they more and more make clear that we have to pay for there crisis. There is no talk about additional millionaire tax or increasing income tax. No the poor will be poorer on 3 April.
llothar68 2 years ago
Capitalism is like a novel (ie its a human creation and can be changed by humans).
We should create a system where people benefit by creating a better environment or a more equal and happier society rather than by private destructive greed.
In this new world, the humble lavatory cleaners would receive a higher reward than armaments manufacturers.
Lavatory cleaners make the world a safer place to live in while armaments manufacturers do not.
yourcamden 2 years ago
You guys want some truth. Try typing in anyone who has mentioned rebelling, resistance or anything similar and the havel been red flagged. Some examples when you type in vision victory, George4title, Bunker report. Entime watchman it will not search as you type. Now I have watched all Manoftruth vids and he never has said anything about a resistance and his name will search as you type. So yes you are being monitored by YTPD.
distingquished11 2 years ago
This is why my videos are more 'mainstream' - et the word out without freaking out the YT censors
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Sadly you will not learn. I pray for people like you.
Peace.
BTW swearing will get you blocked
FeverIAm 2 years ago
hey fever I like your work and without sounding like a complete ass leach we need more people like you bringing out the news ... always interested in your vids ... great job brother
The4thReich 2 years ago
Hey, I never knew you to block swearing...
noncompliant2 2 years ago
My kids watch these vids, and read the comments. So I keep it clean for them
Peace
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Mike asks that people on this channel refrain from swearing. He doesn't care if you tell him off, just to watch the words used. Please respect that. If we don't respect each other, who will?
simplewhimsy 2 years ago 4
Governments will often try to disguise the true rate of inflation through a variety of techniques. These can include the following: * Outright lying in official statistics such as money supply, inflation or reserves. * Suppression of publication of money supply statistics, or inflation indices. * Price and wage controls.
carlrogan 2 years ago
* Forced savings schemes, designed to suck up excess liquidity. These savings schemes may be described as pensions schemes, emergency funds, war funds, or something similar. * Adjusting the components of the Consumer price index, to remove those items whose prices are rising the fastest.
carlrogan 2 years ago
w w w winknews com/news/local/42019772 h t m l
"Cape "tea party" canceled; City fears too many attendees
By WINK News
Story Created: Mar 27, 2009 at 6:10 PM EDT
Story Updated: Mar 29, 2009 at 8:24 AM EDT
CAPE CORAL, Fla. - A tea party to protest government spending and taxing is canceled. Canceled by the government.
Why? They feel too many people could show-up."
therealcaptobvious 2 years ago
From the comments on there i think people are going to turn up anyway by the looks of it.
Lets hope so anyway.
carlrogan 2 years ago
govt threatened by tea parties!
so the government is noticing the movement
w w w freerepublic c o m/focus/f-news/2217606/posts
"Tax Day Tea Party Site Hit By Denial of Service Attack
St. Louis Tea Party ^ | March 29, 2009 | Staff
The coalition responsible for the February 27 and April 15 Tea Parties has been under an orchestrated, coordinated distributed denial of service (ddos) attack since Friday, March 27. Efforts to thwart the attack continue."
therealcaptobvious 2 years ago
that clearing your throat thing is really annoying!
ryanmoe2008 2 years ago
Try quiting smoking and you'll find out why.
Goblet cells become overactive, leaving the quiter extreamly phlem ridden. Listen to what he's saying, commment on that ryan, its far more important.
Peace.
carlrogan 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I would like to point out to people, that ONLY western bamks are affected by this fiasco.
Yes, you have China, Japan and all the other countries who are "involved" in our bankng system (which is all the UN and NATO and EU countries, and even india and pakistan).
But the remainders are:
Iran
Nth Korea
Syia
Iraq (until recently)
Afganistan (until recently)
They are the "Axis of Evil" BECAUSE they choose to have their own banks ! The WONT sleep with Rothschild !!!
mikeybrumbrum 2 years ago
ha ha, please send me some like that. i love it when they are artistically designed.
Fantastic !
mikeybrumbrum 2 years ago
Roflcopter!
According to the guardian its due to fears over the car industry....
...that one must have snuck up on them eh?
Is the world really run by muppets? I'm beginning to think not in terms of conspiracies but in terms of arrogance, ignorance and stupidity. Oh and stupidity (needs to be mentioned twice.) I want to go (((home))). :p
carlrogan 2 years ago
DJIA over 200 down straight away. Interesting. What news are you city boys and girls watching? I didn't understand the Bear rally and I don't understand this spooking either?
There is nothing major happening story wise unless the world is really that upset about porn vids on expense accounts (Ignore that story it's a sham).
Also I suspect we will soon be hearing a down in salary increase for MP's 2.3% is a bit high given the problems so expect a happy retraction for the benefit of the nation
carlrogan 2 years ago
i heard a story that japan was spooked by the geitner comment that banks will need large amount of money yet to come. Other than this GM fired Wagoner and the g20 coming?>???
limitedplay 2 years ago
In theory the G20 meeting should be a good thing. (It won't be it'll fail, it has been set up to fail. One day to fix this mess? i think not.)
As for GM and the car industry see my above comment, it is nothing new, everyone has known since Nov/Dec last year that the motor industry was borked.
As for the Geitner comment, he's been on about more QE for ages the wall streetians seem to think its a good thing.
Not writing off what your saying 'limited' just not convinced.
Peace.
carlrogan 2 years ago
I get it but the double talk coming out of Washington i wouldnt be surprised to see some of this speculation happening. IE, the dollar is still the reserve currency but we are looking at gold and other regional currencies as well. Which in lay terms means the dollar is not the reserve any longer but who knows at this point
limitedplay 2 years ago
'Which in lay terms means the dollar is not the reserve any longer but who knows at this point'
Lol spot on ;) I'm lost TBH hoping Mike will enlighten me. Cause God knows i'm ot getting any sense out of the media. I doubt the markets will be commented on at all.
carlrogan 2 years ago
I guess what we wait for is the comments about the dollar at the g20. There will for sure be alot of curveballs coming out as well.
limitedplay 2 years ago
3/30/09 Comex daily gold, silver, & dollar/ yen...daily charts are forming "pennants" coisiding w/ 89,200 Exponential moving avs , indicating major break out price Trend...Some thing's gonna happen any day now!
tonapah141 2 years ago
I expect a swing down on gold. Good time to snap it up before all heck breaks loose!
FeverIAm 2 years ago
UHH OHH markets are tanking, had to go ahead and short the financials
limitedplay 2 years ago
I'm looking to short the financials.
Put gel in your hair...
Shave your mustache...
Put on your matrix sun classes...
Do your Mr. Smith voice for us.
And above all...
Scare the Hell out of us..!
(lol)
gjonesy9 2 years ago
(lol) Not tonight - I'll wait til after wed!
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Just out of curiosity Mike, how do you follow these events so closely? What tools are you using to aggregate the info? Google Alerts or something?
jakeyt 2 years ago
I read a lot... simple. Takes time, b ut you learn so many things you never thought about. I could set up Google alerts or whatever - but what to 'alert' on? for that you need to read :-)
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Let them eat cake. Let the peasants rot. That's the kind of arrogant elitism that fueled the guillotine...and a major revolution. My hat's off to the G-20 protestors for their efforts.
P3rf3ctStorm 2 years ago 2
You are the man Mike.
goldforbread 2 years ago
thanks mike. as always. ditto on the hair.
maw1111 2 years ago
Another tour de force, Mike.
clayvessel 2 years ago
Hope you all are getting ready !! I really do !!!
thirstybullet 2 years ago 2
...AAAHH! NO, NOT TOMORROW, MAN!! NOT AGAIN, ALREADY!!
I mean, seriously, man: please give me some rest, dude!
Do you ever eat or sleep...?!
Please, could someone fix this man and give him some 20+ mg diazepam??
Processing your (really, REALLY great!) and visionvictory's info takes so much time, I'm gonna have to quit my job to cope with you guys...!!
Tressco 2 years ago
Sorry :( LOL - not to worry - you might get laid off and not have to worry about quitting ;-)
I gave you a break... ready for more?
Peace :-)
FeverIAm 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
...mmh...? Wha...aaAh! He's awake again...quick...wait...! Why is he loose...? No..just...hey! Someone take away the keyboard..take away...aaahhh! Eat the mouse...smash the m...oh he doubleclicked, already...
*SIGH*
...okay, chief! Bring 'em on...
...but I'm gonna sleep first...
...'cause It takes at least an hour to cope with one of your broadcasts...
Very Over & far out
Tressco 2 years ago
Would be nice if they dont forget to raise my salary after they started the print process.
dontblamethemessenge 2 years ago
last G 20 meeting in January
think world told america
" to clean out your desk "....
this G-20 meeting
world will take action
against dollar ..
could come hard fast and ugly ..
take care peoples ...
chena3 2 years ago
'Hard, fast and ugly'.
Three very pertinent words.
carlrogan 2 years ago
Kinda new at exploring youtube. Got to say however that the information that is obtainable through to individuals around the world is invaluable indeed. I want to thank Mike for his reporting efforts occurring in our world, economy, politics. Great work Mike....thanks, Rick
aboutsoul19 2 years ago 3
welcome to the party
P.S.
don't drink the koolaid ..
chena3 2 years ago
Part 2: He had a highly stressful job & there was talk of divorce. He snapped. The fallout in my family, and in his amazing children, my neice & nephew, 2 say nothing of my poor sister has been immense. Pls b careful all! We need you on the planet. Peace Out.
healingwise 2 years ago
Mike, Apropos of nothing but urgent nonetheless, I'm asking everyone 2 b extremely careful arnd guns. My sis n her husb had purchased some 2 protect agnst home invasion. The nite b4 last @ 2AM, my bro-in-law used a shotgun to blow his head off. Fortunately, my sister & her son @ home (dtr was @ sleepover) had gotten out of the house b4 he could turn the gun on them. Part 1
healingwise 2 years ago
Highly appropriate actually. Peace
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Thank you for your videos and information.
Europe to print money? Maybe yes but from the words of a EU burocrat you can interprete what ever you want.
The AEP article is the usual AEP´s smelling internal semisolid body deposition. I wonder how much he gets paid by US-UK propaganda machine he serves in such a slimy way.
Ibilaemash 2 years ago
Connecting Pyramids from China to Egypt - Straight Line
watch the video in my channel
pyramidpuzzle 2 years ago
do you know that the EU has already a law for the death penalty for people in case of war, and in case of riots?
dontblamethemessenge 2 years ago
That colour suits you, hair looks great btw.
loai050 2 years ago
well no matter what the idiots do we can still have our own local money without tax or interest, by using your own you keep the wealth in your local economy, barter bucks, you could use gold to back it up, have its own bank to hold the gold and print the money as the gold supply is increased, loans at o%, no factual banking, as gold goes up or down it would reflect how rich or poor your community is, but if this caught on there would be less gold around and the value would always go up
freepress666 2 years ago
I think Soros is not just an independent investor - he is an agent of the elite; if we listen carefully to what he says we can learn a lot about where THEY want this crisis to go. which in my opinion is global central banking & a global standard monetary unit (not a currency initially).
the G20 is the last chance. the LEAP folks dont see there being a change of heart by the politicians; neither do i.
they will continue to try to save the system and thereby propell us all into total collapse.
siddhaam 2 years ago
your videos would be that much more watchable if you stopped clearing your throat every five seconds.
flamingdog76 2 years ago
mo money mo money
BIGBOYREDGIE 2 years ago
Good morning erm evening and afternoon to you too,
MewHamHead 2 years ago
About the "Police identify 200 children as potential terrorists" -- sorry to say you got that tragically wrong.
It is not about the evil police now monitoring little kids in the classroom; it is about young kids being indoctrinated by fundamentalist islamists. And all the material that they need for that, they find alas in the koran and the haddiths.
So don´t belittle that problem please, especially not if you have a daughter who in the future might have to live in the Sharia UK.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
"sorry to say you got that tragically wrong."
Well, he is not alone then. I'm about to learn stuff here.
"it is about young kids being indoctrinated by fundamentalist islamists. "
Really? Yet the article reads about "parents and other community figures to be vigilant for signs that may indicate an attraction to extreme views or susceptibility to being "groomed" by radicalisers. Sir Norman, whose force covers the area in which all four 7 July 2005 bombers grew up,
TheCZMan 2 years ago
said: "What will often manifest itself is what might be regarded as racism and the adoption of bad attitudes towards 'the West'."
These kids have developped the trend without being exposed to the words of fundamentalist islamists. They have not been indoctrinated.
It comes as a reaction to their environment. Here the radicalizers will preach on people that are already converted to their cause.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
"Reaction to their environment" -- so the evil West is responsible for these young guys going on the jihaad?
Then how do you explain that they behave EXACTLY like jihadists in Pakistan, India, Thailand, the Philippines, Nigeria, Chechnia, China, Indonesia, and any number of other non-Western countries?
Sorry, but this Judeo-Christian-PC tendency to blame everything on "the West" does not stand a reality check.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
What do you mean by "behave exactly like Jihadists in Pakistan" etc...?
It does not make much sense to me so please expand.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
Committing terrorism against unbelievers (and secular fellow believers) until they agree to submit under Shariah.
What is there not to understand?
If somehow the West is to blame for creating muslim suicide bombers, then where do the muslim suicide bombers in e.g. Pakistan get the very same idea from.
Again, it this PC tendency to blame *our* society for muslim terrorism does not stand a reality check.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
Very weak. Where did the kamizaze get their idea? In the Qran?
I wonder what line in this book is called people to blow themselves up. Mind to provide?
What is labelled as terrorism existed before. Violence is used to obtain submission. Nothing new.
That it is PC to claim that there is a possibility of endogenous terrorism, give me a break, the PC version is your claim, the one telling that people come to the idea to blow themselves up reading a book that contains no line on that.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
The fact is there are obvious holes in current societies which are failing to meet some self proclaimed objectives. After that, indeed, it is better to hide these failed objectives under something else.
Currently, the predominant covert is Islam. Before and still on, it was race. In one hundred years, it will something else.
TheCZMan 2 years ago
The kamikaze pilots were willing to sacrifice themselves for their emperor, who they considered as god. That is indeed comparable to the islamic concept of "martyrdom", although they were not promised 72 virgins...
And yes, the promise of paradise for dying in the course of jihad is all over islamic teaching (see Bukhari 1-2.35 for example). The imams who preach jihad and martyrdom in mosques, probably even in your neighbourhood didn´t just invent it out of thin air.
Please inform yourself.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
You did not answer the question. Did those kamikaze fish it in the Qran?
Martyrdom, Jihad, dying for a cause... Can be found in many, many other creeds. I wonder who the weirdo is who claimed "give me liberty or give me death"
Must have read the Qran...
TheCZMan 2 years ago
No, the kamikazes found it in militaristic interpretation of Shinto at the time. Which is why this "religion" was abolished. After surrender, the emperor went on radio and declared that he, in fact, is not a God.
And yes, other religions have a concept of martyrdom. Notice the difference, though: A Christian martyr allows himself to be killed by the enemies. He does *not* get rewarded for killing non-Christians. That is an islamic monopoly.
Please inform yourself.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
You're wasting your time trying to teach him. Save your energy for someone who will listen. Peace
FeverIAm 2 years ago
Actually, originally my message was directed at you.
Were *you* not ignorant about the nature of the radicalism of these kids in your video?
These are not radical vegetarians, or radical Buddhist, you know.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
The article can weasel around the fact for reasons of political correctness, but you know very well that this is about islam and nothing but islam.
Catholic, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu or any other religious doctrine (that I know of ) teaches hatred against and war on the unbelievers (kuffars = us).
Blowing up subway trains and airports, honor killing, death threats and all the rest are not a religious equal opportunity proposition.
There is no Buddhist or Christian Shariah!
Ignore at your peril.
Derukugi2 2 years ago
i agree, i liked the slogan.. we're gonna show you what a meltdown really looks like.
badmofker 2 years ago