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  • LOL.. The only good part about the treasury of Gilgas is that he can use the weapons as projectiles. He isn't a weapon user, but a owner.. Which is why he would still have been beaten down.. Cause you seem to forget that alex had a ARMY in his disposal.. With the Chairot kicking the shit out of Gilga, and denying his EA. He would be dead.

    Archer sucks in melee, and you should know it, cause he LOST to Shirou.. So there is another question.. Why couldn't Archer use the special skills on Shirou?

  • @geenius3ab Also, Shirou gains the skills of the previous wielders of the weapon he uses when he utilises UBWs.

  • @DarthFanta No he doesn't..

    For example in the UBW path of the game, Shirou didn't use the splendid techniques of the previous wielders.. At all.. He can imitate the noble phantasms special skills, but he can't use the users techniques as a whole.

    He frantically attacked Archer, and ''overpowered'' him. In ubw he frantically attacked quickly, before gilga could retaliate.

    Shirous fighting style doesn't have anything to do with the weapon he uses, but he can use the special skills..

  • The strongest servant was actually Alexander.. The only reason he died was cause his chairot was destroyed by saber... Without his chairot (The symbol of him being a rider.) he lost about 50% of his combat strength!..

    Damn Alexander was the most charismatic character here.. -.-

  • @geenius3ab The strongest servant is Saber with Avalon, Gilgamesh with EA if not. Alternatively, there are also other servants to contend the top spot, like Arcueid(Berserker), Buddha(Saver), Siegfried(Saber), Joan of Arc(Ruler),Karna(lancer?) and the Kitsune(Caster).

  • @DarthFanta I have actually no idea who you're talking about..

    Joan of Arc (Jean d'arc, you must've meant.) .. Isn't in Fate at all, and same to others.. Arcueid isn't by no means a servant, it's a character from Tsukihime..

    Basically I have no idea why you pulled those names out of some hat..

    You have basically no idea on how things are..

    Gilgamesh is weak in melee combat, while Alexander's skills are beasts in it.. Saber couldn't have done anything either, cause Alexander is a ''war''.

  • @geenius3ab Ignorant one, you are the one who does not know how things are.

    Arcueid(Berserker), Buddha(Saver) and Kitsune(Caster) comes from Fate/Extra. Joan of Arc(Ruler), Karna(lancer) and Siegfried(Saber) comes from Fate/Apocryhpha. Sad, you should read more on the Nasuverse. Your knowledge on the teachings of Nasu is still a bit lacking.

  • @geenius3ab In addition, the King of Heroes has EA. He could have fucked every servant in a number of hours(if he was serious) according to Nasu himself. In fact, he most probably could have destroyed the world with EA--given it's an anti-world weapon. Furthermore, Alex is divine--this meant that any speed attack by the man would have been stopped short by Enkidu.

  • @DarthFanta You don't seem to know Alexanders Noble Phantasm.. As a hint.. It doesn't need to be him who hits Gilga.. And I should add that the only reason why he lost again.. Is cause his chairot was destroyed.

    And I strongly disagree that EA is a ''anti-world weapon'' .. And that seems stupid to say, cause Saber's Exca is just a ''anti-fortress weapon'', and it is up-to-par with EA if she had enough prana.. The problem was that she didn't have full strength.

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  • @geenius3ab Technically, the only people who can probably defeat Gilgamesh without tricks is Arcueid, Zelretch, Type Mercury, Type-Moon, Gun God and perhaps Buddha and the other servants I had listed.

  • @geenius3ab Of course I know what Alexander's Noble Phantasm is, it's Ionian Hetairoi and his bloody Gordios Wheel. Rider lost completely because his reality marble got destroyed by EA. And guess what, Excalibur is not up-to-par with EA even if she had enough prana. THe maximum attack point of an A+++ weapon is only two hundred.Excalibur is only A++. EA's max damage is 4000. Excalibur could barely block EA even though Gil deliberately lowered the damage of his sword.

  • @DarthFanta You should know how strong his chairot was, inside ionian hetaroi, Gilga wouldn't even be able to shoot off his EA before he dies... But cause Rider lost his sick mobility, Gilga could finish him off..

    I don't know what kinda logic you use to put dmg points onto a fictional piece.. I don't know where you pull out those numbers, but I don't think they're valid..

  • @geenius3ab They are valid, because they are from the word of Nasu himself. Therefore they aren't inaccurate. No use disputing the word of the God of the Nasuverse. Furthermore, the Chariot is only A+ only. If you realise, against enemies Gil deems worthy, he doesn't fight using melee--he distance himself and them attack.Furthermore, even if Iskander does have his mobility, he could still be chained by Enkidu nonetheless.

  • @DarthFanta I'm asking you this.. How did Shirou kill Gilga? Did he have a EX rank weapon up his sleeve? No!

    You can't seem to understand that the chairot gives him something more then that stomping attack. It gives him initiative AND speed that he lacked cause Gilga could Enkidu and EA his ass..

    He doesn't fight melee when he doesn't deem worthy?!.. WTH.. Just telling you.. Gilga totally lost to Shirou in Melee. He just sucks at it. And the Chariot would have made all the difference.

  • @geenius3ab Shirou won because Gil didn't deem him a worthy opponent, and refused to pull out EA until he simply does not have enough time to take it out. So what if he sucks at melee. The important fact is that Gilgamesh with EA at full strength is invincible. He doesn't need speed. EA is badass enough that it can shred anything charging at it. And guess what, NASU said so!Moreover, you are underestimating the armour of Gilgamesh. Gil wasn't even wearing armour when fighting Shirou.

  • @DarthFanta Lol... Don't you know that all of those weapons that Gilga used were a lot higher quality then Shirou, and he still lost to him in melee?

    And don't you know as well that Gilgas EA has a short Cast time. The problem was that Alexander got caught by Enkidu, and couldn't make it. So what would have happened if he could have dodged enkidu, or atleast send the chairot full-speed into Gilgas face?..

    And Alex had a full army at his disposal, so once the bull hit.. Gilga would just be dead..

  • @geenius3ab I told you. Melee was never Gil's specialty. There's a reason why he is an archer, not a saber. He is supposed to bombard enemy forces with greater firepower from a distance. The bull would have been killed by Gae Bolg or other stuff from the man's arsenal. Furthermore, if the bull got destroyed by excalibur, it could have been destroyed by EA. And regarding EA's cast time--Gil didn't even have enough time to wield EA before his arm got hacked off.

  • @DarthFanta Are you just blind?..

    The whole point of my text is that ''speed'' is what was lacking from Alexander.. Speed.. No matter how good he is at range, against Alexander with the Chairot, he could have shortened the distance so fast that it would have gone to melee no matter what.. And like you said, gilga sucks in melee.. I bet the whole army could have taken down Gilga alone 1 v 1 in melee range..

    Just 1 interrupt on EA would have been the death.. And the Chairot was the missing key.

  • @geenius3ab His army would have been torn to shreds by GOB. And why do you keep on ignoring the fact that Nasu himself has established that a serious Gilgamesh could have killed anyone in the Holy Grail Wars except for Saber with Avalon. You are ignoring that the gate of babylon itself fires it's missiles faster than bullets. Any frontal charge would have been suicidal. Cu Chullain has tested it. Caster has, so did BERSERKER.

  • @geenius3ab Furthermore, even Cu Chulainn, who had the fastest weapon and the greatest speed couldn't lay a dent on Gil's armour. Enkidu just restraint him. He was butchered with GOB.

  • @geenius3ab Gil's armour is strong enough that he can take a large number of hits from excalibur without breaking. If he was wearing armour, Shirou would have completely lost.

  • @geenius3ab Furthermore, Gilgamesh could have always used GAE BOLG! Yes, GAE BOLG, the spear that never misses unless you have extremely high luck. He used it on Hercules. He could have used it on anyone. You seem to think that EA is the only effective weapon Gil has, but wrong. There's a vast arsenal of special weapons he could have used with great effect. GOB with special weapon kills.

  • 1:03 Getsuga Tensho lol

  • evil always find the way i prefer normal saber thanks for uploading.

  • 0:56 Is apparently when Dark Saber's mask comes off (I just wanted to point that out).

  • She looses is when she has less than 50% of her life bar

  • Lol, There´s no way for Naruto to win if he fights Dark Saber.

    And you call Dark Saber a copycat of Ichigo in his Bankai form?

    You should be saying that Ichigo is a copycat of Dark Saber,

    The first appearances of Ichigo´s Bankai was somewhere after October 3 in 2005 in vol 19, While Fate was released in January 30, 2004.

    So Dark Saber appearances was more then 1 and half year sooner then Ichigo´s Bankai :)

  • @vvvvv7777 None of the Narutoverse will win if they fight any character of the Nasuverse

  • why does it have to be 3d???

  • Good thing I've got these game while im in japan

  • Saber Styles is great!

  • For some reason I think Dark Saber is cuter then normal Saber. o o

  • Her eyes are alot cuter, yeah

  • @Yurikan

    Her casual costume is much cuter.

  • her mask protect of gorgona eyes of rider.

  • ma, even i'm better than those people, and that say a lot.

  • Why does Dark Saber wears a mask??? It's kind of annoying.

  • Her mask will come off if she is damaged enough.

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