MBA! MBA! MBA! MBA! Congratulations to all people who have commented saying that NDE's are nothing more than hallucinations from the dying brain. You've just won the Materialist Bravery Award! You have shown how INCREDIBLY SUPERIOR you are to those worthless quivering Afterlife-believers who think they're going to heaven. You are so much BETTER than they are! I do hearby bend down and kiss your glorious arses! And keep hoping nobody ever proves NDE's real or your exclusivity is GONE!
atheists have seen God. Jews have seen Jesus. Maybe all roads lead home and religion here is a tool to help us to understand God. There has been crossover of religious beliefs and NDE's. All religions have their points.
However, new research is opening up the possibility of quantum effects on the brain over both space and time, and therefore opens up the likelihood that we are to some extent linked over both space and time. That in my view is a much more likely reason for these currently unexplained experiences such as OBE’s, Telepathy, NDE’s, Dreams, Apparitions, and Premonitions
I’m sceptical that NDE’s tell us anything about what happens after death. It stands to reason that the brains of those people who have reported NDE’s did not die.
You have to think for moment, ndes? The proof is in the pudding. If the idea of life after death is impossible to believe for some people and this is to be true? Why would the brain go to so much trouble and great lengths to produce an nde in the first place? Would that not be pointless if there were no independent consciousness at work here. Ie. God.?
@manners75 one thing i don't understand which is keeping me skeptical is why is it they only do these experiments on cardiac patients and why do the majority not remember their ndes?
1) cardiac patients show the closest signs of death. Their heart stops and we can record their brain electrical activity. You're basically clinically dead if you lack heart movements, 0 blood pressure, and no electrical activity. Yet how on earth does one see these things when their brain is shut down?
2) I think it's like dreaming. We all dream but rarely does one remember such dreams
I think share death experience are more interesting
@DStrike0083 the person could just as easily have only dreamed after they were revived but before they became conscious. merely claiming it does not make it so. they need more evidence before i will jump boat.
@DStrike0083 the brain is more complex than you think...showing no activity from the brain doesn't prove nothing happens. In my opinion, the brain releases a kind of dimethyltryptamine which will allow you to enter a stade of extasy, before really dying....
When people have had their arms cut during accidents, they said they could control the fingers for a certain amount of seconds, which is weird considering that the brain wasn't connected to it.
@Ilir7777 did you read the article? Current scientific theories say NDEs shouldn't be possible at this period. I never said it isn't scientifically proven, only that science has not proven it.
Strange that you would talk about DMT. Rick Strassman, the man who connected DMT to dying people, have only theorize that DMT is released upon death. other researchers have disproven it. DMT does occur in the body, but it is not release in mass amount during death
NDE's prove how narrow-minded and bigoted atheists are in being absolutely sure there is no God and that there is absolutely no life after death. That our good deeds will go unrewarded and bad deeds unpunished. That there is only blackout after death. Pretty hopeless and unrealistic set of beliefs I think. NDEs are God's miracle in showing that He does exist.
Hi - amazing post. Just to clarify - does Dr Fenwick believe in life after death or does he think it is a part of the brain's reaction during the process of dying?
@ASilvershade Yes, as pointed out by "lightbehindGod" he does lean towards there being life after death...he finds sciences explanations for NDE and OOBE's to be flawed....I was surprised to see that Carl Jung believed in life after death too. /watch?v=mrBX3BRIn_o what amazes me is that blind people have seen for the 1st time in their lives when they've had NDE's or OOBE's.
with all your education your missing one thing, many hear and see things when they have NO brain activity at all and know what is on top of the building and what they are saying in next room.. you cannot explain that away.
It seems as if the religion and dogma come into play when these people are explaining the experience because the language of the religion make the explanation of the experience easier to explain in the terms of their religious/cultural understanding...? What I'm saying is that the explanation of the experience is difficult enough much, so using language they already understand makes it easier?
Mr. Jorgensen: Thank you for your response from a few months ago.I want u to know that I WANT NDE's to be true.I want there to be a life after death.I just have trouble believing that these experiences are genuine. Seems like Christians see Christian imagery;Muslims see Islamic imagery;Hindus see images consistent with their tradition.What to make of this?It seems that you see what you expect to see, before it all goes black. Then nothing.
Its only on the surface that the mind of each individual interacts with the experience and pre-existing belief is projected into the experience. But underneath are what is called the core features of the near-death experience and these are close to universal: out-of-body experience, the light, sensations of love, peace and joy, a life-review, pleasant/unpleasant experiences, etc. It does not go black rather people say that the Light full of profound love and joy seems to be our destination.
Also you can read my new book The Light Behind God, which goes into this in depth. It explains why these testimonies are real and we should listen together with separating the religious dogma from what people actually experience.
@shysterlicious NDEs are just one indicator of life after death. Psychics, mediums are , to me, more of an indication that life continues than even NDEs. There is also the EVP experiments. Most religions also teach the continuation of life. I have found this to be a fascinating study. Download "Life in the World Unseen" for an eye-opener on future existence.
@shysterlicious Religions have 'hijacked' the afterlife phenomena, when the reality (psychic) is that religion has nothing to do with it. The experiences are genuine. The spirit body, the 'mind', are what does the experiencing, and the mind, the real you, may have been preconditioned as to what to believe.
Interesting that only a sub group of those near death experience NDEs. This sub group seems to be made up of people of differing religious background/agnostics/atheists. I wonder why not everyone who is close to death has this experience?
@Eddie123xyz I think EVERYONE has the experience, but like our dreams, most can't remember it. The concepts can be very hard to comprehend. I do hemi-sync, and it took a lot of practice to actually remember what happened during my sessions.
No, he is saying that there are two different kinds of NDEs - those happening during clinical death (= indication of continuation) and those that happen under different circumstances: fear, pain, spiritual inspiration, drugs, etc.
Hi! Things are going well, almost finishing my second book and researching for nu. three. Also next week end, I am crossing the boarder to do a talk at a spiritual festival in Vermont.
MBA! MBA! MBA! MBA! Congratulations to all people who have commented saying that NDE's are nothing more than hallucinations from the dying brain. You've just won the Materialist Bravery Award! You have shown how INCREDIBLY SUPERIOR you are to those worthless quivering Afterlife-believers who think they're going to heaven. You are so much BETTER than they are! I do hearby bend down and kiss your glorious arses! And keep hoping nobody ever proves NDE's real or your exclusivity is GONE!
benthejrporter 2 weeks ago
what is the most recent update with project aware? have they yet come out with positive results that there is in fact a life after death?
ultradumbass 1 month ago
What the heck is his stance? I domt think he answered the question
MsSarabruno 2 months ago
atheists have seen God. Jews have seen Jesus. Maybe all roads lead home and religion here is a tool to help us to understand God. There has been crossover of religious beliefs and NDE's. All religions have their points.
TheXxmmgg 4 months ago
However, new research is opening up the possibility of quantum effects on the brain over both space and time, and therefore opens up the likelihood that we are to some extent linked over both space and time. That in my view is a much more likely reason for these currently unexplained experiences such as OBE’s, Telepathy, NDE’s, Dreams, Apparitions, and Premonitions
hallmark2012 4 months ago
I’m sceptical that NDE’s tell us anything about what happens after death. It stands to reason that the brains of those people who have reported NDE’s did not die.
hallmark2012 4 months ago
You have to think for moment, ndes? The proof is in the pudding. If the idea of life after death is impossible to believe for some people and this is to be true? Why would the brain go to so much trouble and great lengths to produce an nde in the first place? Would that not be pointless if there were no independent consciousness at work here. Ie. God.?
manners75 8 months ago
@manners75 one thing i don't understand which is keeping me skeptical is why is it they only do these experiments on cardiac patients and why do the majority not remember their ndes?
ultradumbass 1 month ago
@ultradumbass
1) cardiac patients show the closest signs of death. Their heart stops and we can record their brain electrical activity. You're basically clinically dead if you lack heart movements, 0 blood pressure, and no electrical activity. Yet how on earth does one see these things when their brain is shut down?
2) I think it's like dreaming. We all dream but rarely does one remember such dreams
I think share death experience are more interesting
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083 the person could just as easily have only dreamed after they were revived but before they became conscious. merely claiming it does not make it so. they need more evidence before i will jump boat.
ultradumbass 1 week ago
@ultradumbass this is Peter Fenwick's research
h t t p :/ / i a n d s.o r g /research/important-research-articles/42-dr-peter-fenwick-md-science-and-spirituality.html
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083 the brain is more complex than you think...showing no activity from the brain doesn't prove nothing happens. In my opinion, the brain releases a kind of dimethyltryptamine which will allow you to enter a stade of extasy, before really dying....
When people have had their arms cut during accidents, they said they could control the fingers for a certain amount of seconds, which is weird considering that the brain wasn't connected to it.
NDE doesn't prove anything to me
Ilir7777 4 days ago
@Ilir7777 did you read the article? Current scientific theories say NDEs shouldn't be possible at this period. I never said it isn't scientifically proven, only that science has not proven it.
Strange that you would talk about DMT. Rick Strassman, the man who connected DMT to dying people, have only theorize that DMT is released upon death. other researchers have disproven it. DMT does occur in the body, but it is not release in mass amount during death
DStrike0083 4 days ago
NDE's prove how narrow-minded and bigoted atheists are in being absolutely sure there is no God and that there is absolutely no life after death. That our good deeds will go unrewarded and bad deeds unpunished. That there is only blackout after death. Pretty hopeless and unrealistic set of beliefs I think. NDEs are God's miracle in showing that He does exist.
cameronmoj 1 year ago
Hi - amazing post. Just to clarify - does Dr Fenwick believe in life after death or does he think it is a part of the brain's reaction during the process of dying?
ASilvershade 1 year ago
@ASilvershade I think he leans towards life after death - but he is very objective and precise as a serious scientist.
LightBehindGod 1 year ago
@ASilvershade Yes, as pointed out by "lightbehindGod" he does lean towards there being life after death...he finds sciences explanations for NDE and OOBE's to be flawed....I was surprised to see that Carl Jung believed in life after death too. /watch?v=mrBX3BRIn_o what amazes me is that blind people have seen for the 1st time in their lives when they've had NDE's or OOBE's.
InTributeToTheKing 1 year ago
with all your education your missing one thing, many hear and see things when they have NO brain activity at all and know what is on top of the building and what they are saying in next room.. you cannot explain that away.
Myaka2001 1 year ago
It seems as if the religion and dogma come into play when these people are explaining the experience because the language of the religion make the explanation of the experience easier to explain in the terms of their religious/cultural understanding...? What I'm saying is that the explanation of the experience is difficult enough much, so using language they already understand makes it easier?
cmeeks61 1 year ago
if you can prove that an individual has "a life" that is separate from Life Itself then death exists. otherwise death does not exist.
TadRapidly 1 year ago
Mr. Jorgensen: Thank you for your response from a few months ago.I want u to know that I WANT NDE's to be true.I want there to be a life after death.I just have trouble believing that these experiences are genuine. Seems like Christians see Christian imagery;Muslims see Islamic imagery;Hindus see images consistent with their tradition.What to make of this?It seems that you see what you expect to see, before it all goes black. Then nothing.
shysterlicious 1 year ago
Its only on the surface that the mind of each individual interacts with the experience and pre-existing belief is projected into the experience. But underneath are what is called the core features of the near-death experience and these are close to universal: out-of-body experience, the light, sensations of love, peace and joy, a life-review, pleasant/unpleasant experiences, etc. It does not go black rather people say that the Light full of profound love and joy seems to be our destination.
LightBehindGod 1 year ago
Also you can read my new book The Light Behind God, which goes into this in depth. It explains why these testimonies are real and we should listen together with separating the religious dogma from what people actually experience.
LightBehindGod 1 year ago
@shysterlicious NDEs are just one indicator of life after death. Psychics, mediums are , to me, more of an indication that life continues than even NDEs. There is also the EVP experiments. Most religions also teach the continuation of life. I have found this to be a fascinating study. Download "Life in the World Unseen" for an eye-opener on future existence.
k0smon 1 year ago
@shysterlicious Religions have 'hijacked' the afterlife phenomena, when the reality (psychic) is that religion has nothing to do with it. The experiences are genuine. The spirit body, the 'mind', are what does the experiencing, and the mind, the real you, may have been preconditioned as to what to believe.
k0smon 1 year ago
Interesting that only a sub group of those near death experience NDEs. This sub group seems to be made up of people of differing religious background/agnostics/atheists. I wonder why not everyone who is close to death has this experience?
Eddie123xyz 1 year ago
@Eddie123xyz It is estimated that only 18% of people suffering near-death have the experience to go with it.
k0smon 1 year ago
@Eddie123xyz I think EVERYONE has the experience, but like our dreams, most can't remember it. The concepts can be very hard to comprehend. I do hemi-sync, and it took a lot of practice to actually remember what happened during my sessions.
ABLux33 1 year ago
I'm not sure I understand this gentleman clearly. Is he saying that NDE's are NOT an indication that there is continuation after death?
shysterlicious 2 years ago
No, he is saying that there are two different kinds of NDEs - those happening during clinical death (= indication of continuation) and those that happen under different circumstances: fear, pain, spiritual inspiration, drugs, etc.
LightBehindGod 2 years ago
Rene, when is one of the next national "get togethers" for the NDE crowd? I'd love to hear some of these stories in person.
ryanswain 2 years ago
wow, how did you manage to get a interview ?
Jamie
MadHobbit 2 years ago
I went to see him in London, UK. Both him and his wife are very friendly.
LightBehindGod 2 years ago
Hi There, Rene!
Nice interview. How are things up in Canada? Hope you & your family have a great weekend!
11moonelf 2 years ago
Hi! Things are going well, almost finishing my second book and researching for nu. three. Also next week end, I am crossing the boarder to do a talk at a spiritual festival in Vermont.
LightBehindGod 2 years ago
HI Rene, great to hear that things are going well for you, thanks for the interview, very interesting, Lee
alltycham 2 years ago
excellent interview. Dr. Fenwick obviously really knows his stuff.
crabbster21 2 years ago