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He is a jew that makes him depressed ! The left side of the jewish brain triumph the whole time the right side ask the whole time "WHAT WE ARE DOING ? WE ARE NOTHING BUT A MISFORTUNE FOR THE EVOLUTION OF THIS PLANET" !
I love Fry. He's great. But I know if I could see Ann widelcombes massive tits i would experience a lifted mood. There. That's my intellectual contribution to the proceedings.
I like this video. Its a sensitive and thoughtful piece. Makes me realise we are not alone in depression even though in a crowded room you can feel very alone.......
that voice in his head tormenting him is a demon - but now in this current culture spiritual powers have been ignored by naturalist dismissal and arrogance. Unless the Spiritual aspect of life is acknowledged and addressed a person is at prey to dark spiritual powers.
Becoming chemically dependent is not a solution, as when a person dies and their spirit leaves the body there will be no pharmacies - people need to repent of their pride and seek the source of life and His Spirit to be free.
@VesselAnaw I wish all you christians would just get over yourself. There are NO demons. The voice in his head is imaginery. It feels real, but it isn't. I know you're entitled to your belief but I'm sick of religious people telling you what to do. No one is possessed by demons, because there are no demons. Demons, angels and all supernatural things do NOT exist. There is no such thing as magic. Get over it.
All the people talking about God being the answer: Shut the fuck up. Seriously. Grow up, this is 2012, not the fucking middle ages. Surely people are smart enough to know that "God" is non-existent and that the religions have done nothing but breed hate and cause death and wars.
*raises hand hand timidly* My little sister has Bipolar Disorder, so from an observer's POV, sometimes faith just doen't cut it. She's on medication now and seems able to manage her manic behaviour
faith in a god or in oneself is indistiguishable...its the same thing... its the feeling one gets from knowing they have faith and that positive change ensues.. the feeling of "bleakness" oreverything being the same toda as it ws yesterday or "what the point of it all" mentality can become habitual, im wondering if people diagnosed with this condition can train daily to thinkvthe opposite all the time?
@spiderpope To a faithless person with no understanding of the laws of the universe, your opinion may be warranted. However, the facts, my jolly good foe, are in front of everyone. If drug sales support you and bring you a lavish greed, that is entirely for your benefit and entirely disfunctional to the universe. Your soul shall receive its reward for your avaricious self-serfdom.
@spiderpope To a faithless person with no understanding of the laws of the universe, your opinion may be warranted. However, the facts are in front of everyone, and my jolly good foe, the facts are and always will be. If drug sales pay your rent and bring you a lavish greed, it is for your own personal benefit, entirely earthly, entirely disfunctional to the Universe. Your soul will suffer and your words will do nothing but preserve your greedy self-serfdom.
@thegreatdeciever55 You're a moronic slave to the government and your soul is and will continue to dwell in darkness if you choose to sit on your arse and arrogantly rebut my truths...Satan is not a single being...Satan is an energy force, just as the Holy Spirit or whatever you'd like to call it. God is everything good and evil, shown and unshown. A small fraction of greedy fiery souls created the population drugging system for means of socio-economic exploitation and regulation.
it's not depression that he has, it's bipolar disorder, they're different. Depression is one of the parts of bipolar disorder but it also features highs.
@insidegame33 considering the fact reality is nothing but percieved Sentience (percieved sensation)...it cant be imagination----because imagination is--- by definition---- the act of forming images or concepts not available to the senses
@psychonaut1992 Your pills seperate you from God. Anything that is not of natural means is harmful to your body, which is also your temple. Satan wants you to take pills. Hell is on Earth, not below it.
@insidegame33 "Satan wants you to take pills" ---so you know what Satan wants from us? How are you so intimitely knowledgeable of the desires and plans of a monterously evil entity like satan?...and for that matter....how is GOD so intimitely knowledgable of Satans Plans....unles....he IS SATAN!!! aaah...seriously though...your talking SHITE and you know it---even biblically there is no scripture about Satan giving us pills so dont talk SHIT
@psychonaut1992 Both you and your parents have been brainwashed with media Propaganda. Permanent depression just doesn't exist. It is completely unnatural for the human brain to be depressed for such a period without an outside variable (drugs). God exists in my everyday life and answers my prayers. God is not an imaginary friend. God is everything and anything you want him/her to be just as long as you believe. God doesn't have a name. God is nature and the universe. And God is happenstance.
@insidegame33 Please shut up. You clearly have no idea about depression, it's causes, or it's treatment. Your ignorance is astounding. To claim that those suffering from a mental disorder should refuse treatment because your imbecilic understanding of the cosmos says so is stupid, dangerous and delusional.
@insidegame33 Well that's just adorable, because my parents were baptised and have had depression and anxiety for the better part of 15 years, and I've had it for over 5 now. That's one cracking benevolent God you've got there. I mean this in the most sincere way: I truly pity the one who is more inclined to believe in a loving imaginary friend than to face reality. Nihilism/atheism is dark, but it's also freedom.
Depression to me is fear...haven't yet experienced a void since I'm always doing stuff. But non rational fear is to me very very disturbing. The fear of loosing someone or something, the fear of judgement. I would love to become less materialistic in my thought process, not having to depend on anything or anyone. But it's quite hard when you live in a stupid society such as this.
@Hermoor You really don't know what depression is do you? Your translation is completly false. It's increadible sadness and loss of hope. Nothing to do with fear.
@zfiles4me I think fear of loosing something or someone could be depressing. Fear is the driving force behind the sadness and loss of hope. It's because we are so dependant on things and other people that we experience this fear and sadness. Being completely free and independent would make the loss of a loved one less painful...would not lead to a depression.
Elsewhere on Youtube Stephen Fry makes sweeping statements about people who comment on these videos. He uses expressions such as "self obsessed" and "get a life". If, as I'm sure is the case, some people use this and other discussion boards to stave off loneliness one would have hoped for a little more empathy. I would never accuse Stephen Fry of being "self obsessed". Actually, maybe I would.
Stephen Fry's self-loathing has gone too far as to seek the sympathy of his audience under the false pretense of "mental illness". What a cheap advertisement, if I'd seen any.
@jackgfenwick I don't feel an ounce of shame, you bloody numbskull. The reason he's suffering is his consumption of mind-altering drugs given to him by people called 'doctors'. I'd bet you my life that if this man stopped taking his drugs and gave his life to the Lord, he might not continue to make so much money, but his soul and spirit would be at rest. The only self-delusion in this blog is the delusion that psychiatric practice is beneficial to the welfare of humanity in any way. It's a game.
@BloodyMooreJay No. He is right. God is much greater than any of you and your little personal fears and doubts. Anyone who disagrees with me, disagrees with the Lord and Savior.
@insidegame33 What gratuitous, self-serving arrogance. You may to choose dwell in a ego-centric self-delusion about a sky fairy. However, belittling mental suffering as a consequence of not sharing your dog-shit fantasy is beyond the pale, and makes you nothing but sub-human. You should feel very shameful.
Fry is nothing but a mass media experiment and his misfortunes are being utilized for propaganda-- in that, the media is reinforcing the "validity" of the DSM (diagnostic & statistics manual of the American psychiatric association). Think of Mr. Fry as a spokesperson for severely toxic poisons-- such poisons that are causing mass suicide, mass birth defects and mass population stabilization. I believe in you guys...don't be another sucker like this guy.
Suicidal-inclination uncommon? Bipolar? Are professionals sure?
Like, instead of getting Angry at people or hating, I take it internally. Sometimes suicidal thoughts/day dreams sure. But nothing comes out of it. Is that not uncommon? Maybe its a personality thing.
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As for Death, it will happen but fortunately when it does one won't have to worry about it.
Every word I could resonate with. The worst part about it is feeling absolutely no emotion at all. Just accepting this part of you and letting yourself fall into the deep, black void without any fuss. Treating it as though it were an old friend who occasionally comes and goes but more often than not sticks around.
Oh dear,..more First World Problems, as the Reddit Quickmemes would say.
Or as the Boston comedian Louis Ck puts it "these are White People problems ..that's where your life is amazing, so you just make shit up to be upset about. People in other countries have real problems like 'Oh shit, they're cutting off our heads today'"
Fry's being among the most brilliant & beloved people in the English-speaking world (aka "the world" nowadays) would suffice, one would think.
@ProNorden shitty argument. Just because worse extremes exist, the validity of things like depression are not negated. Louis CK is a comedian, and a pretty funny one, but not one you should live your life by.
Stephen Fry is essentially an existentialist who understands Albert Camus' the Abusurd. At the end of Camus' book The Myth of Sisyphus, Camus writes that, "One must imagine Sisyphus to be happy." The key word is imagine. In order to be happy, we must lie to ourselves. Real life is Despair, nothingness, blackness. Only when we lie to ourselves can we carry on. Religion has helped humans for many, many year to lie to ourselves. However, religion is no longer believable. We need a new lie
Not necessarily a lie. Although to be perfectly frank, some will be lying to themselves. Quite simply, it should be ambition. Not just financial and superficial, but, at the risk of sounding corny, it should be love. The quest to preserve love and freedom will replace religion in the near future.
@dudesonman4200 Love is real and can be the goal of life but it is still only this life. Once a person comes to the understanding that there is no god, he puts less value on his life. Our behavior has no ultimate meaning. It is like Dostoevsky wrote, "If there is no God, everything is permitted." So, Mother Teresa is not in heaven and Adolf Hitler is not in hell. This is the bleakness and nothingness that Stephen Fry talkes about. It is not a pleasent truth, but it is the truth.
I consider myself to be more than just an atheist and a secular humanist. I am an anti-theist, which is to mean that I not only find the idea of god to be ridiculous, but intensely undesirable. When I discovered that there was no life after this one, value for this life did not diminish, but reached new heights. This is the only life we have, so we should spend it wisely. The idea that we need to be offered a reward to act a certain way is demeaning, and insulting.
@dudesonman4200 You are in effect also lying to yourself just as the Christian and the Islamist lie to themsleves. You say you know there is no connection between our life here and what is after death so this make you value this life more. That is a lie, and illogical. Once it is understood that there is nothing after death, this life becomes meaningless. It is The Absurd. You have used circular logic to help you cope. You are a liar, too, then you condemn the religious. lol
You my friend are not thinking about this critically enough. Why do I need some sort of celestial, divine permission in order to feel happiness and meaning? How insultingly dehumanizing and destructive such a proposition is. This life matters because I say it does. Because the stimulation of the limbic system of my brain, along with other parts of my brain, is the sole purpose in life. We all just have our own means of stimulation. Some use religion, others sex, etc.
@dudesonman4200 Not if you are a true existentialist. When realizes there is no god, then one also realizes that one's behavior has no ultimate meaning. As Dostoevsky wrote, "If there is no god, everything is permitted." In other words, Mother Teresa is not in heaven and Hitler is not in hell. The is The Absurd that Camus wrote about. This brings Despair and invites suicide. Camus wrote that once a man understands The Absurd, the remaining philosophical question is suicide.
We could debate this forever. My personal feeling, (and by the way, I have manic depression) is that I am insulted by the idea that I need some kind of fucking reward after life in order to enjoy life. Life is the reward. Live it while you can. "If there is no god, everything is permitted." Good. I like it when everything is permitted. I am human being, and I like to drink, fuck, and do whatever I want, and as long as it doesnt interfere with anyone elses safety, I will.
@JayGatsbyOdysseus Or we don't need to lie to ourselves. I feel love and I have the emotion of love inside of me. That is enough to convince me to keep living and to be happy. That's the powerfulness of it and no lies need to be done as it's not a "Logical" argument.
It's a feeling and a reason for being more powerful than any words themselves could convey.
@JayGatsbyOdysseus Then why do so many people still find hope and relief in it? It is what works for you, as the saying goes. I completely agree with you about, "the lie" but I wouldn't word it in such a negative way. That doesn't help the situation you are in.
@selty ".......still find hope and relieft in it?" Is "it" religion? If so, this is because it is a self-deception. Religion is method of lying to yourself. I know you don't like the word "lie." It is a bit too harsh for you. However, the lie is the truth. (lol The Lie is the Truth.) Being engulfed in religion is sort of like being a boy or a girl. You are not in reality. You are not mature yet.
Thank you to Steven Fry for discussing in public something so personal. It gives so many people hope.Unfortunately it's added to my confusion, I can't honestly say I've felt the kind of deep dark depression Steven is describing but I HAVE felt great sadness at the state of my life, at the kind of person I am and my future etc
Like LordofTheGnus I can't cry but I can't say I'm devoid of emotion
I still wonder if I'm just a whiny cunt or someone who has genuine depression and deserves sympathy.
It's thanks to Stephen Fry and other people who speak out about their experiences with depression that I was able to seek treatment for my own depression. They helped me realize I wasn't alone, and gave me a hope without which I would probably have given up and killed myself.
Stephen, you darling heap of gorgeousness, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
omg i see myself in him... what he tells about the things, insecurity and mood swings and a feeling of "monstrousity of life" are reminiscent to my own thoughts...
Finally, someone who describes the shit I've been going through! Like him, I've kept diaries for roughly a year or two now.
It was particularly the parts about being happy for no reason, then all of a sudden, being miserable for no reason - and looking forward towards a future with nothing in it, which I REALLY related to.
sounds more like he has major depression...not manic/bipolar depression ...bipolar people have uncontrollable emotions where as people with major depression always feel hopeless
@Pink77W1 This has absolutely nothing to do with his economic standing or his religious beliefs, depression is serious mental illness that destroys peoples lives, you belittle it by saying he shouldn't be complaining because he's rich or he's an atheist therefore he's depressed, you are simply layering in your prejudices to a topic about personal struggle. Many religious people have depression many straight people have depression
"The monstrosity of being alive overwhelms you" Notice how people like to use "you" rather than "I" or "me" ? I think Steven Fry ought to be applauded for doing something about his psychiatric illness, it's amazing he had the thought that he had caused some kind international search for him, by his own actions. The only person I know on YouTube with Bipolar disease is totally oblivious to the enormity of his situation, believing his condition is some kind of benefit to all mankind.
there are no quick fixes, Jesus is the answer, seek him even if it doesnt make sense at first, it will sooner than you think and you'll never be the same again.
Wow. How vague. And why Jesus in particular? Why not Buddha or Muhammad? Zevs? Odin? Or maybe Jehova? And if Jesus, which church? Protestant? Catholic? Ortodox(Russian or Greek?) Chuch of latter day saints?
@Kverul I'd be happy to clear that up for you. Jesus started the one, true church himself. The Catholic church. As for whether you choose to look to Jesus, Buddha, muhammad or Odin...that depends on your willingness and ability to seek out the truth for yourself. As a Catholic, i believe if you turn to Jesus he will help you along this path, as he is the living son of God himself and knows you better than you know yourself.
@Kverul The acts of the Church...over 2000 years. I assume you mean the acts of certain individuals involved in the history of the church over the last 2000 years. Being in the Catholic church doesnt automatically make you a saint, unfortunately. Disregarding the truth of the Gospel and belittling the vast, countless great deeds done by Catholics in the last 2000 years strikes me as ignorant and short sighted. Oh well, each to their own.
Pray tell the great acts and deeds done by the catholic church(official doctrine) and not the individual members. And we must not forget the papal infallibility when the doctrine changes.
For me, depression has never been emotional at all. It's certainly not sadness. It's black, and empty, and I feel like an automaton who sincerely wants to die.
I went several years without any emotion at all. You'd think that's desirable, but it isn't. I was overjoyed to be able to cry, when I finally did. I can feel now. Wellbutrin is very effective.
@LordOfTheGnus I only hope that you can find a way to get rid of your depression completely, instead of feeling you have to deal with. It's not fun at all.
@LordOfTheGnus you don´t need to be sad for a diagnosis,you need sadness and/or anhedonia with the other symptoms,sometimes people expect to see you cry ,sad lips and eyes,etc but for a lot of people it´s anhedonia,that´s where the more dopaminergic/noradrenergic antidepressants like bupropion are needed,sometimes more serotonin gives you a lot of emotional flattening. i wish you feel better and have a nice 2012
Agreed. It isn't sadness because to experience sadness you would have had to first experience happiness, and depression makes you feel as though you are incapable of experiencing any emotions at all. You crave sadness, happiness, anger... anything that will make you feel human again.
I did not know this about Stephen. He perfectly summarized many of my feelings. That I can relate to a genius makes me feel better about myself and more optimistic about my future.
@BloodyMooreJay its not narrowminded ive tried everything, everything im only sixteen and i have so much dought in the excistance of god, i suffer from depression,i dont see how haveing beliefs is narrowminded
@BloodyMooreJay Perhaps you know God by another name? Some call it the energy of the universe. What ever you prefer to call it,it's worth learning about! God is not only for religiously oriented. Scientifically minded people can learn the basics of quantum physics on you tube with very little effort. Less seriously minded people might like Abraham Hicks' perspective..... each can find their own way to the same understanding of the power that some call God.
@MrCameron111111 its true its bleak nothingness,if he seen the light at the end of his dark dark tunnel and had faith i dought hed be this depresst have you ever meet a suciadle christian? so dont vote me down, he would be happier if he had god in his life?
sorry to tell you he is ignorant and isnt as intelligent as you think as his opinions on death and the afterlife prove.
first of all rhe law of conservation proves nothing is ever lost and you will be converted into other life forms as Hinduism has always said. secondly even if it was nothingness as he is so worried about you cannot undergo nothingness.... nothingness is like 0 and 0 x 100000000000000 years is 0.
@topbluffa1 . I think that you may be confusing the material world with the spiritual world. I agree that the matter that constitutes Stephen will not disappear but his "soul" maybe will (It is a hypothesis that I am proposing, I am not sure) hence the "nothingness". You can read up on this easily...many French and German philosophers have discussed this...like Pascal for instance. Your thoughts on this?
nothingness is a lack of experience you cannot undergo a eternity or nothingness.
you has to undergo nothingness as a star where the elements the build up your body was formed but when you was born you didn't think "thank god that 100,000,000 years of nothingness is over that was hell" for you it is like it never happened. 1second and 100 million years of nothingness are both the same.
@topbluffa1 Also, does this mean that for you: reincarnation has only been possible from the time humans existed? Do you see what I mean? The first human=first soul to have the potential to be reincarnated. So there was no reincarnation before humans came?
no you can be reincarnated as a rock anything. its just that some forms have no conciousness which is a good thing because it means you can be stuck as a rock or a star for thousands of years but it doesn't get boring.
.and what makes you think i only think reincarnation has existed since humans? you can be reborn as a ant anything.
but hinduism makes it even more complicated it says your not the individual peice of energy/matter that currently makes up your body your all the energy now n ever
@210482fmj Because, ofcourse, people who have always been 100% heterosexual never get depressed... It may be fair to say that living with issues about not feeling able to 'own' your true nature, in a still very intolerant world, could lead to psychological problems - such issues are not the sole province of gay people. And it's not their attraction to their own sex that's at fault. And I seriously doubt that being gay is intrinsicly linked to being sensitive or introspective.
I suffer from maniac depresion, and it sucks cause the public seems to star, make fun og and creat a full negitity. Every day I wake up in a futreless lonley and a feling to keep me likeing them of the two.... It's fucking irratating, I feel like nothing, and I cant look another person in the eyes for more then half a second let alone connecting with the. Fuck all the haters I wouldn't even dare to wish this apon my worst enemys to live even an hour in my shoes
@AMPSPro your right it is a serious topic.... the fact that this clown hates the catholic church is VERY telling. let me get this straight. homeboy fry can say anything he wants about the catholic church and i cant respond?
@PInk77W1 Well, it's an ad hominem fallacy anyway. And the suicide rates in catholic countries like Ireland and Poland is considerably higher than in more non-catholic countries like England, Denmark, Norway and The Netherlands. But personally, I think it's a cheap and not very nice point to make. And its logical wrong because suicide is primarily correlated with lack of sun.
@olavm91 ad hominem? This guy goes ballistic about the catholic church and now u r worried about his poor little feelings? This clown is the crown prince of cheap. Not very nice? i just love how he rips on the catholic church and then he wants to kill himself...... too funny. The catholic church has a saying.... the last sacrament of an atheist is suicide.
@PInk77W1 Of course you didn't even know the meaning of ad hominem... Even in your fifties. That's telling. And stop being such a bully towards people who suffer from depression. There is no causality between atheism and depression. There is however causality between lack of sun and genetical dispositions on the one side, and depression on the other. And of course he rips the catholic church. Why shouldn't he? He and Hitchens made a laughing stock of the catholics. You should be embarrased.
@olavm91 um yes i know the meaning of ad hominem. of course u jump to conclusions. Fry is a joke, catholicism will prosper with or without him. If he kills himself that is his RIGHT. But the catholic church will b here 10,000 yrs from now. Poor little rich guy is depressed. In my job i almost get killed everyday and i probably make 1/10th or less as poor baby FRy. Im all broken up about his depression. It never ceases to amaze me how rich guys want to kill themselves, poor celebrities
Anyone who thinks you can just snap out of depression has never suffered it, anyone who hasn't reached that point of such despair that the act of suicide is a relief because it's about to be over finally, anyone who hasn't even had that constant tormenting singular thought of suicide dripping like a tap and who hasn't had to feel like that for weeks, months or years has not suffered with depression - not major depression at least. Without antidepressants I'd kill myself within a week. Thanks :)
Depression is a terrible thing. It was amazing to see him actually try and describe it on camera, because when you're depressed the outside world is just a bit too much to cope with yet he braved that for the sakes of the documentary. He's gone on and been brilliant despite his issues with it, really inspiring.
Depression is one of the top symptoms of gluten intolerance. I think that Stephen and others like him (myself included) can be helped by a gluten free diet, taking St. John's Wort and practicing energy medicine. In my experience, temporal lobe constriction causes depression; and, its relaxation thru meditation in conjunction with the above prescriptions are the cure. Deep meditation exercises help us to turn on Nirvana as will and chase those blues away.
@Ncyim Diseases are not symptoms of diseases alone. High blood pressure can be a sign of many things, but it can be due to high blood pressure. Are you with me?
Thank you for speaking openly about this, Mr. Fry.I know how difficult it is not to hide yourself from the whole world when it hits you.I have deep respect that you spoke on camera,and what you discribed,its exactly that way.What helps me is to take God´s Word as medicine.When i read the bible on regular bases, and as a born again Christian i understand it,it prevents me from depression.It started when i was 16,i couldnt overcome it on my own.With God i have been through major victories.
@BloodOfRayne Religion will prevent you from living your life to the fullest by telling you to not play with yourself and to be God's cheerleader so that you can go to a magical place in the sky when you die, not that this would be very enjoyable considering you can't commit sins (in other words: have fun) there either.
@cockohoop69 An extremely intelligent man who is so depressed that he's tried to take his own life! Yeah... that sounds exteremely "itelligent" to me!
@BloodOfRayne I won't de like the usual youtuber and start a flame war and call you a "f*ggot" or a "n*gger" or whatever nonsense people use on here. However, unless you have felt that hopless and useless, you can't judge him. Stephen Fry was very brave not to succumb and it took great strengh for him to prosper. Stephen Fry is more intelligent than most people on the planet and probably you and I.
@BloodOfRayne I am surprised. You have felt the crushing lows of depression and don't understand (never mind haven't contemplated) suicide? And even more baffling; you would question the man's intelligence because of his illness (even more laughable when you present yourself in that manner). My life history and yours are semi-irrelivent in this discussion; what is important is Stephen Fry's.You know this, but depression and mania can not be chosen. Stephen Fry works hard to overcome his ilness.
@BloodOfRayne My auntie has bi-polar, has to spend time in the nut house fairly regularly and has had electro-convulsive therapy etc. But she doesn't get the depression anywhere near as strongly as the manic stage. One person's bi-polar isn't the same as another's in that regard, depression is also different for each person, some people just never get to suicidal where others such as Fry and myself end up in such a state with it that we're not quite rational and decide to kill ourselves.
@DrNjtp I remain convinced that while everyone can get depressed, only some of us are unfortunate enough to be cursed with major depression, especially when it comes in the form of a life-long struggle with no rhyme or reason besides genetics and biochemical imbalance. It's because bi-polar and major depression run through my family like a river that I've rendered myself sterile - I'd loath to pass this on to a child knowing they'll probably be like me.
@jdrocket I can f**king judge him all I want because I was diagnosed bi-polar at 16 years of age so don't f***ing sit there and tell me that I don't understand bi-polar depression you cunt! I know exactly what bit feels like to wanna hug someone and then rip their f**king head off! I'm OH SOOO QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT THIS MY FRIEND!!! D:
@BloodOfRayne And I wIll tell you someting else about bi-polar disorder! It DOESN'T make you more wise! When you're on a HIGH! NO-one can tell you that what you're thinking is bullshit! You know EVERYTHING and everyone else is stupid until you come falling down back into the pitt you're always trying to climb out of! You are NOT bi-polar so don't even try to understand this illness you FUCK!
Many times the funniest people ever have it. Chris farley had it, robin williams had it, so did david cross. In a way though, its those lows that make them who they are. Only when one has felt utter sadness do they truly appreciate whats funny and happy.
I think I have Cyclothymia. Stephen's speech from 2:30-3:06 is EXACTLY how I have felt today. It's so black. And everything slows down - It takes longer to process what I get told or what I want to say to someone.
I feel so alone right now - I don't think any of my friends will understand.
I don't know whether I suffer this but I've gotten suicidal with little thoughts and images about my self that just makes me want to either not wake up or just live away from everyone.
I consider that instead of killing myself I may as well walk this earth if anything and just see where life throws me. Think that sounds stupid and disorganised? Better than being dead.
@Dolphidood yes, its definitely depression but don't off yourself or go along with the suicidal ideation. i like to think that we all have our moments of contemplating it (myself included) but time usually heals wounds. and as for walking the earth aimlessly, don't do that either. some call it bohemianism, others would call it being homeless. i would be worried about the risks that it would entail.
@cyberwaffles Thanks for taking time to talk but if worst comes to worst it will probably be that. To be honest I've lived in 13 different houses and have witnessed 9 different relationships and so to simply experience without aim is not new.
I feel so much better knowing that Britain's gem, Stephen Fry, goes through the exact same thing as me... He's beautiful.
selty 6 days ago
Mycroft! XD
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gomes123456789 1 week ago
He is a jew that makes him depressed ! The left side of the jewish brain triumph the whole time the right side ask the whole time "WHAT WE ARE DOING ? WE ARE NOTHING BUT A MISFORTUNE FOR THE EVOLUTION OF THIS PLANET" !
finsterwald181167 1 week ago
@finsterwald181167 Fry is only 1/8 Jewish. He had a grandparent who was Jewish. The came from the Hungary area.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 1 week ago
@finsterwald181167
People like you are a misfortune of evolution you anti-semitic fucking twat
dudesonman4200 1 week ago
I never knew Steven smoked 0_o?!
MrJayCudmore 2 weeks ago
I love Fry. He's great. But I know if I could see Ann widelcombes massive tits i would experience a lifted mood. There. That's my intellectual contribution to the proceedings.
rocketjunkie88 2 weeks ago
I know the wall....
pwd3679 2 weeks ago
I like this video. Its a sensitive and thoughtful piece. Makes me realise we are not alone in depression even though in a crowded room you can feel very alone.......
mirrorstonecrystals1 2 weeks ago
i think hes just very very very intelligent.
13bexy13 3 weeks ago
HerrJamie sounds like a miserable hopeless soul. Wow.
insidegame33 3 weeks ago
@vesselanaw You're right! @boodyiceni I've got plenty a clue and then some. Have you a clue?
insidegame33 3 weeks ago
that voice in his head tormenting him is a demon - but now in this current culture spiritual powers have been ignored by naturalist dismissal and arrogance. Unless the Spiritual aspect of life is acknowledged and addressed a person is at prey to dark spiritual powers.
Becoming chemically dependent is not a solution, as when a person dies and their spirit leaves the body there will be no pharmacies - people need to repent of their pride and seek the source of life and His Spirit to be free.
VesselAnaw 3 weeks ago
@VesselAnaw I wish all you christians would just get over yourself. There are NO demons. The voice in his head is imaginery. It feels real, but it isn't. I know you're entitled to your belief but I'm sick of religious people telling you what to do. No one is possessed by demons, because there are no demons. Demons, angels and all supernatural things do NOT exist. There is no such thing as magic. Get over it.
mycatsnameishoudini 3 weeks ago
All the people talking about God being the answer: Shut the fuck up. Seriously. Grow up, this is 2012, not the fucking middle ages. Surely people are smart enough to know that "God" is non-existent and that the religions have done nothing but breed hate and cause death and wars.
HerrJamie 3 weeks ago 2
*raises hand hand timidly* My little sister has Bipolar Disorder, so from an observer's POV, sometimes faith just doen't cut it. She's on medication now and seems able to manage her manic behaviour
poeticnerd1990 3 weeks ago
Faith is the only sure way to overcome greedy medical exploitation.
insidegame33 4 weeks ago
@insidegame33 you seriously havent got a clue have you?
boodyiceni 3 weeks ago
faith in a god or in oneself is indistiguishable...its the same thing... its the feeling one gets from knowing they have faith and that positive change ensues.. the feeling of "bleakness" oreverything being the same toda as it ws yesterday or "what the point of it all" mentality can become habitual, im wondering if people diagnosed with this condition can train daily to thinkvthe opposite all the time?
MrTeejaysingh 4 weeks ago
@spiderpope To a faithless person with no understanding of the laws of the universe, your opinion may be warranted. However, the facts, my jolly good foe, are in front of everyone. If drug sales support you and bring you a lavish greed, that is entirely for your benefit and entirely disfunctional to the universe. Your soul shall receive its reward for your avaricious self-serfdom.
insidegame33 4 weeks ago
@spiderpope To a faithless person with no understanding of the laws of the universe, your opinion may be warranted. However, the facts are in front of everyone, and my jolly good foe, the facts are and always will be. If drug sales pay your rent and bring you a lavish greed, it is for your own personal benefit, entirely earthly, entirely disfunctional to the Universe. Your soul will suffer and your words will do nothing but preserve your greedy self-serfdom.
insidegame33 4 weeks ago
@thegreatdeciever55 I observe nothing but radical self-protective skepticism in your response. You clearly have yet to be freed from bondage.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@thegreatdeciever55 You're a moronic slave to the government and your soul is and will continue to dwell in darkness if you choose to sit on your arse and arrogantly rebut my truths...Satan is not a single being...Satan is an energy force, just as the Holy Spirit or whatever you'd like to call it. God is everything good and evil, shown and unshown. A small fraction of greedy fiery souls created the population drugging system for means of socio-economic exploitation and regulation.
insidegame33 1 month ago
thank you for sharing:)
27dreamweaver 1 month ago
it's not depression that he has, it's bipolar disorder, they're different. Depression is one of the parts of bipolar disorder but it also features highs.
ThisIsMyDeen 1 month ago
Reality is the product of your imagination. It is your natural right to perceive as you wish.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@insidegame33 considering the fact reality is nothing but percieved Sentience (percieved sensation)...it cant be imagination----because imagination is--- by definition---- the act of forming images or concepts not available to the senses
TheGreatDeciever55 1 month ago
@psychonaut1992 Your pills seperate you from God. Anything that is not of natural means is harmful to your body, which is also your temple. Satan wants you to take pills. Hell is on Earth, not below it.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@insidegame33 "Satan wants you to take pills" ---so you know what Satan wants from us? How are you so intimitely knowledgeable of the desires and plans of a monterously evil entity like satan?...and for that matter....how is GOD so intimitely knowledgable of Satans Plans....unles....he IS SATAN!!! aaah...seriously though...your talking SHITE and you know it---even biblically there is no scripture about Satan giving us pills so dont talk SHIT
TheGreatDeciever55 1 month ago
@psychonaut1992 Both you and your parents have been brainwashed with media Propaganda. Permanent depression just doesn't exist. It is completely unnatural for the human brain to be depressed for such a period without an outside variable (drugs). God exists in my everyday life and answers my prayers. God is not an imaginary friend. God is everything and anything you want him/her to be just as long as you believe. God doesn't have a name. God is nature and the universe. And God is happenstance.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@insidegame33 Please shut up. You clearly have no idea about depression, it's causes, or it's treatment. Your ignorance is astounding. To claim that those suffering from a mental disorder should refuse treatment because your imbecilic understanding of the cosmos says so is stupid, dangerous and delusional.
Spiderpope 4 weeks ago 2
holy water* -- wash yourself in it.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@insidegame33 Well that's just adorable, because my parents were baptised and have had depression and anxiety for the better part of 15 years, and I've had it for over 5 now. That's one cracking benevolent God you've got there. I mean this in the most sincere way: I truly pity the one who is more inclined to believe in a loving imaginary friend than to face reality. Nihilism/atheism is dark, but it's also freedom.
Psychonaut1992 1 month ago
@hermoor all you gotta do, my brother/sister, is ditch the pills. One glass of Holy eater
insidegame33 1 month ago
@rcroaky Stephen Fry is hopelessly exploited as a living advertisement for pharmaceutical drugs.
insidegame33 1 month ago
Depression to me is fear...haven't yet experienced a void since I'm always doing stuff. But non rational fear is to me very very disturbing. The fear of loosing someone or something, the fear of judgement. I would love to become less materialistic in my thought process, not having to depend on anything or anyone. But it's quite hard when you live in a stupid society such as this.
Hermoor 1 month ago
@Hermoor You really don't know what depression is do you? Your translation is completly false. It's increadible sadness and loss of hope. Nothing to do with fear.
zfiles4me 2 weeks ago
@zfiles4me I think fear of loosing something or someone could be depressing. Fear is the driving force behind the sadness and loss of hope. It's because we are so dependant on things and other people that we experience this fear and sadness. Being completely free and independent would make the loss of a loved one less painful...would not lead to a depression.
Hermoor 2 weeks ago
Elsewhere on Youtube Stephen Fry makes sweeping statements about people who comment on these videos. He uses expressions such as "self obsessed" and "get a life". If, as I'm sure is the case, some people use this and other discussion boards to stave off loneliness one would have hoped for a little more empathy. I would never accuse Stephen Fry of being "self obsessed". Actually, maybe I would.
mikelheron20 1 month ago
Stephen Fry's self-loathing has gone too far as to seek the sympathy of his audience under the false pretense of "mental illness". What a cheap advertisement, if I'd seen any.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@jackgfenwick I don't feel an ounce of shame, you bloody numbskull. The reason he's suffering is his consumption of mind-altering drugs given to him by people called 'doctors'. I'd bet you my life that if this man stopped taking his drugs and gave his life to the Lord, he might not continue to make so much money, but his soul and spirit would be at rest. The only self-delusion in this blog is the delusion that psychiatric practice is beneficial to the welfare of humanity in any way. It's a game.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@BloodyMooreJay No. He is right. God is much greater than any of you and your little personal fears and doubts. Anyone who disagrees with me, disagrees with the Lord and Savior.
insidegame33 1 month ago
@insidegame33 What gratuitous, self-serving arrogance. You may to choose dwell in a ego-centric self-delusion about a sky fairy. However, belittling mental suffering as a consequence of not sharing your dog-shit fantasy is beyond the pale, and makes you nothing but sub-human. You should feel very shameful.
jackgfenwick 1 month ago
@insidegame33
Another serving of Ego, anyone?
rcroaky 1 month ago
@LordOfTheGnus Try the Holy Spirit. The pills are what's been keeping you depressed. Don't be another victim. Enjoy your life.
insidegame33 1 month ago
Fry is nothing but a mass media experiment and his misfortunes are being utilized for propaganda-- in that, the media is reinforcing the "validity" of the DSM (diagnostic & statistics manual of the American psychiatric association). Think of Mr. Fry as a spokesperson for severely toxic poisons-- such poisons that are causing mass suicide, mass birth defects and mass population stabilization. I believe in you guys...don't be another sucker like this guy.
insidegame33 1 month ago
Thank god he left for France on a ferry!
keryn111 1 month ago
Suicidal-inclination uncommon? Bipolar? Are professionals sure?
Like, instead of getting Angry at people or hating, I take it internally. Sometimes suicidal thoughts/day dreams sure. But nothing comes out of it. Is that not uncommon? Maybe its a personality thing.
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As for Death, it will happen but fortunately when it does one won't have to worry about it.
Caprinae 1 month ago
Every word I could resonate with. The worst part about it is feeling absolutely no emotion at all. Just accepting this part of you and letting yourself fall into the deep, black void without any fuss. Treating it as though it were an old friend who occasionally comes and goes but more often than not sticks around.
ciaobellakate 1 month ago
Knowing that a man like Stephen Fry feels the same way i do... It makes me feel better
kolyu91 2 months ago
you have a friend in friendship, maine stephen
freedom1234573 2 months ago
Oh dear,..more First World Problems, as the Reddit Quickmemes would say.
Or as the Boston comedian Louis Ck puts it "these are White People problems ..that's where your life is amazing, so you just make shit up to be upset about. People in other countries have real problems like 'Oh shit, they're cutting off our heads today'"
Fry's being among the most brilliant & beloved people in the English-speaking world (aka "the world" nowadays) would suffice, one would think.
Still, Fry should procreate.
ProNorden 2 months ago
@ProNorden shitty argument. Just because worse extremes exist, the validity of things like depression are not negated. Louis CK is a comedian, and a pretty funny one, but not one you should live your life by.
theEarlofChip 2 months ago
Stephen Fry is essentially an existentialist who understands Albert Camus' the Abusurd. At the end of Camus' book The Myth of Sisyphus, Camus writes that, "One must imagine Sisyphus to be happy." The key word is imagine. In order to be happy, we must lie to ourselves. Real life is Despair, nothingness, blackness. Only when we lie to ourselves can we carry on. Religion has helped humans for many, many year to lie to ourselves. However, religion is no longer believable. We need a new lie
JayGatsbyOdysseus 2 months ago 11
@JayGatsbyOdysseus
Not necessarily a lie. Although to be perfectly frank, some will be lying to themselves. Quite simply, it should be ambition. Not just financial and superficial, but, at the risk of sounding corny, it should be love. The quest to preserve love and freedom will replace religion in the near future.
dudesonman4200 2 weeks ago
@dudesonman4200 Love is real and can be the goal of life but it is still only this life. Once a person comes to the understanding that there is no god, he puts less value on his life. Our behavior has no ultimate meaning. It is like Dostoevsky wrote, "If there is no God, everything is permitted." So, Mother Teresa is not in heaven and Adolf Hitler is not in hell. This is the bleakness and nothingness that Stephen Fry talkes about. It is not a pleasent truth, but it is the truth.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 2 weeks ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus
I consider myself to be more than just an atheist and a secular humanist. I am an anti-theist, which is to mean that I not only find the idea of god to be ridiculous, but intensely undesirable. When I discovered that there was no life after this one, value for this life did not diminish, but reached new heights. This is the only life we have, so we should spend it wisely. The idea that we need to be offered a reward to act a certain way is demeaning, and insulting.
dudesonman4200 2 weeks ago
@dudesonman4200 You are in effect also lying to yourself just as the Christian and the Islamist lie to themsleves. You say you know there is no connection between our life here and what is after death so this make you value this life more. That is a lie, and illogical. Once it is understood that there is nothing after death, this life becomes meaningless. It is The Absurd. You have used circular logic to help you cope. You are a liar, too, then you condemn the religious. lol
JayGatsbyOdysseus 2 weeks ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus
You my friend are not thinking about this critically enough. Why do I need some sort of celestial, divine permission in order to feel happiness and meaning? How insultingly dehumanizing and destructive such a proposition is. This life matters because I say it does. Because the stimulation of the limbic system of my brain, along with other parts of my brain, is the sole purpose in life. We all just have our own means of stimulation. Some use religion, others sex, etc.
dudesonman4200 2 weeks ago
@dudesonman4200 Not if you are a true existentialist. When realizes there is no god, then one also realizes that one's behavior has no ultimate meaning. As Dostoevsky wrote, "If there is no god, everything is permitted." In other words, Mother Teresa is not in heaven and Hitler is not in hell. The is The Absurd that Camus wrote about. This brings Despair and invites suicide. Camus wrote that once a man understands The Absurd, the remaining philosophical question is suicide.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 1 week ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus
We could debate this forever. My personal feeling, (and by the way, I have manic depression) is that I am insulted by the idea that I need some kind of fucking reward after life in order to enjoy life. Life is the reward. Live it while you can. "If there is no god, everything is permitted." Good. I like it when everything is permitted. I am human being, and I like to drink, fuck, and do whatever I want, and as long as it doesnt interfere with anyone elses safety, I will.
dudesonman4200 1 week ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus Or we don't need to lie to ourselves. I feel love and I have the emotion of love inside of me. That is enough to convince me to keep living and to be happy. That's the powerfulness of it and no lies need to be done as it's not a "Logical" argument.
It's a feeling and a reason for being more powerful than any words themselves could convey.
AEgamesFtw 1 week ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus Then why do so many people still find hope and relief in it? It is what works for you, as the saying goes. I completely agree with you about, "the lie" but I wouldn't word it in such a negative way. That doesn't help the situation you are in.
selty 6 days ago
@selty ".......still find hope and relieft in it?" Is "it" religion? If so, this is because it is a self-deception. Religion is method of lying to yourself. I know you don't like the word "lie." It is a bit too harsh for you. However, the lie is the truth. (lol The Lie is the Truth.) Being engulfed in religion is sort of like being a boy or a girl. You are not in reality. You are not mature yet.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 6 days ago
My god, I could listen to him talk about pooping and be riveted :)
s8ntmark 2 months ago 10
@s8ntmark you're in luck, as his most recent tweets have gone that route
rebelmilk 3 weeks ago
Thank you to Steven Fry for discussing in public something so personal. It gives so many people hope.Unfortunately it's added to my confusion, I can't honestly say I've felt the kind of deep dark depression Steven is describing but I HAVE felt great sadness at the state of my life, at the kind of person I am and my future etc
Like LordofTheGnus I can't cry but I can't say I'm devoid of emotion
I still wonder if I'm just a whiny cunt or someone who has genuine depression and deserves sympathy.
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TheCutterschoice 2 months ago
@MrCameron111111 you're retarded
DerrenBrown100 2 months ago
It's thanks to Stephen Fry and other people who speak out about their experiences with depression that I was able to seek treatment for my own depression. They helped me realize I wasn't alone, and gave me a hope without which I would probably have given up and killed myself.
Stephen, you darling heap of gorgeousness, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
phemyda94 3 months ago
I'm not the only one. Wow.
kamwrites 3 months ago
@kamwrites no,you are not !
corporacionmonstruo 2 months ago
he falls into depression 4x a year, probably the times when his drug dealer runs out of cocaine
Vahik88 3 months ago
omg i see myself in him... what he tells about the things, insecurity and mood swings and a feeling of "monstrousity of life" are reminiscent to my own thoughts...
zoyataylor 3 months ago
@zoyataylor Same here.
realbluemeanie 3 months ago
Cannabis turns my depression into slight mellon collie which I can deal with.
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210482fmj 3 months ago
Finally, someone who describes the shit I've been going through! Like him, I've kept diaries for roughly a year or two now.
It was particularly the parts about being happy for no reason, then all of a sudden, being miserable for no reason - and looking forward towards a future with nothing in it, which I REALLY related to.
DasGrausam 3 months ago
sounds more like he has major depression...not manic/bipolar depression ...bipolar people have uncontrollable emotions where as people with major depression always feel hopeless
MahaudJohnson 3 months ago
@Pink77W1 This has absolutely nothing to do with his economic standing or his religious beliefs, depression is serious mental illness that destroys peoples lives, you belittle it by saying he shouldn't be complaining because he's rich or he's an atheist therefore he's depressed, you are simply layering in your prejudices to a topic about personal struggle. Many religious people have depression many straight people have depression
AMPSPro 3 months ago 3
"The monstrosity of being alive overwhelms you" Notice how people like to use "you" rather than "I" or "me" ? I think Steven Fry ought to be applauded for doing something about his psychiatric illness, it's amazing he had the thought that he had caused some kind international search for him, by his own actions. The only person I know on YouTube with Bipolar disease is totally oblivious to the enormity of his situation, believing his condition is some kind of benefit to all mankind.
XXYforLIFE 3 months ago
@XXYforLIFE It is just the way things are phrased, he also says he is praying it will pass, even thoguh he does not believe in God.
tobiosnmakky 3 months ago
there are no quick fixes, Jesus is the answer, seek him even if it doesnt make sense at first, it will sooner than you think and you'll never be the same again.
oaklet 3 months ago
@oaklet
Wow. How vague. And why Jesus in particular? Why not Buddha or Muhammad? Zevs? Odin? Or maybe Jehova? And if Jesus, which church? Protestant? Catholic? Ortodox(Russian or Greek?) Chuch of latter day saints?
Kverul 3 months ago
@Kverul I'd be happy to clear that up for you. Jesus started the one, true church himself. The Catholic church. As for whether you choose to look to Jesus, Buddha, muhammad or Odin...that depends on your willingness and ability to seek out the truth for yourself. As a Catholic, i believe if you turn to Jesus he will help you along this path, as he is the living son of God himself and knows you better than you know yourself.
soulofnero 3 months ago
@soulofnero
Considering the acts of the Catholic church for the last 2000 years I will remain a healthy sceptic in that regard
Kverul 3 months ago
@Kverul The acts of the Church...over 2000 years. I assume you mean the acts of certain individuals involved in the history of the church over the last 2000 years. Being in the Catholic church doesnt automatically make you a saint, unfortunately. Disregarding the truth of the Gospel and belittling the vast, countless great deeds done by Catholics in the last 2000 years strikes me as ignorant and short sighted. Oh well, each to their own.
soulofnero 3 months ago
@soulofnero
Pray tell the great acts and deeds done by the catholic church(official doctrine) and not the individual members. And we must not forget the papal infallibility when the doctrine changes.
Kverul 3 months ago
@Kverul Doctrine cant act. Its doctrine. Der. And popes never change the doctrine. That would be heresy.
soulofnero 3 months ago
For me, depression has never been emotional at all. It's certainly not sadness. It's black, and empty, and I feel like an automaton who sincerely wants to die.
I went several years without any emotion at all. You'd think that's desirable, but it isn't. I was overjoyed to be able to cry, when I finally did. I can feel now. Wellbutrin is very effective.
LordOfTheGnus 3 months ago 60
@LordOfTheGnus I only hope that you can find a way to get rid of your depression completely, instead of feeling you have to deal with. It's not fun at all.
TheBiAtheist 2 months ago
@LordOfTheGnus you don´t need to be sad for a diagnosis,you need sadness and/or anhedonia with the other symptoms,sometimes people expect to see you cry ,sad lips and eyes,etc but for a lot of people it´s anhedonia,that´s where the more dopaminergic/noradrenergic antidepressants like bupropion are needed,sometimes more serotonin gives you a lot of emotional flattening. i wish you feel better and have a nice 2012
corporacionmonstruo 2 months ago
@LordOfTheGnus
Agreed. It isn't sadness because to experience sadness you would have had to first experience happiness, and depression makes you feel as though you are incapable of experiencing any emotions at all. You crave sadness, happiness, anger... anything that will make you feel human again.
ciaobellakate 1 month ago
@LordOfTheGnus That's exactly how I feel too.
TheOliverTaylor 1 month ago
Thanks, I am in the same situation now.
utubekula 3 months ago
i reckon one can attain a certain state of awareness by simply observing oneself and helping others...
depression does exist - help someone worse off and it'll go
the greatest love of all is waiting there... fade away and radiate, meditate and resonate - i think birds singing is the best cure for depression
this society with their religious wars and poverty makes us depressed...we gotta be good friends and laugh at life - cos its one sick fucking joke
timewilltell7 3 months ago
I did not know this about Stephen. He perfectly summarized many of my feelings. That I can relate to a genius makes me feel better about myself and more optimistic about my future.
MrGuitarguy1986 3 months ago
He so concisely makes everything feel comprehendible.
neversurreder793 4 months ago
Who has hurt you stephen?..who did it?..I will end them
haxor98 4 months ago
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god is the only cure, im not evann a christian its the fact he does not see there is an afterlife.
MrCameron111111 4 months ago
@MrCameron111111 God is the only cure for depression?
DJTeaKay 4 months ago
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@DJTeaKay
"God is the only cure for depression?"
Do you realise how serious depression is?
Fuck off with your creepy religious crap and stick your god up your backside.
Get back into your effluent world.
Pigdowndog 2 months ago
@MrCameron111111 "God is the only cure" ??
Thats narrow minded.
BloodyMooreJay 3 months ago 64
@BloodyMooreJay Well of course. If you believe in God, hearing voices is perfectly acceptable.
AitorElf 3 months ago
@BloodyMooreJay its not narrowminded ive tried everything, everything im only sixteen and i have so much dought in the excistance of god, i suffer from depression,i dont see how haveing beliefs is narrowminded
MrCameron111111 2 months ago
@BloodyMooreJay He's just another sheep. Move along, nothing to see here.
TheBiAtheist 2 months ago
@BloodyMooreJay Perhaps you know God by another name? Some call it the energy of the universe. What ever you prefer to call it,it's worth learning about! God is not only for religiously oriented. Scientifically minded people can learn the basics of quantum physics on you tube with very little effort. Less seriously minded people might like Abraham Hicks' perspective..... each can find their own way to the same understanding of the power that some call God.
satsumamoon 4 weeks ago
@BloodyMooreJay That doesn't mean it's wrong.
Potswanky1111 3 weeks ago
@MrCameron111111 its true its bleak nothingness,if he seen the light at the end of his dark dark tunnel and had faith i dought hed be this depresst have you ever meet a suciadle christian? so dont vote me down, he would be happier if he had god in his life?
MrCameron111111 2 months ago
@MrCameron111111 I was a suicidal christian and i know many depressed and suicidal christians so shut up
zammowillson 2 months ago
Im so glad steven didnt end his own life. Not now the world needs him more than ever.
His purpose is massive and helps to give the otherside of the fence perspective on relgion. I like him.
blindinglights02 4 months ago
Okay... you have an auntie with bi-polar... you just described the symptoms so whats you point?
BloodOfRayne 4 months ago
He is just intelligent, that's why he thinks about death.
Epilogue02 4 months ago 2
@Epilogue02
sorry to tell you he is ignorant and isnt as intelligent as you think as his opinions on death and the afterlife prove.
first of all rhe law of conservation proves nothing is ever lost and you will be converted into other life forms as Hinduism has always said. secondly even if it was nothingness as he is so worried about you cannot undergo nothingness.... nothingness is like 0 and 0 x 100000000000000 years is 0.
that is the beauty of nothingness.
topbluffa1 4 months ago
@topbluffa1 . I think that you may be confusing the material world with the spiritual world. I agree that the matter that constitutes Stephen will not disappear but his "soul" maybe will (It is a hypothesis that I am proposing, I am not sure) hence the "nothingness". You can read up on this easily...many French and German philosophers have discussed this...like Pascal for instance. Your thoughts on this?
Epilogue02 4 months ago
@Epilogue02
im talking on behalf of what hinduism says and hinduism says the soul is the undying essence of the person.
you seem to think the "soul" is the personality of the person this is wrong the soul aquries new bodies and new personalities but it is always you.
topbluffa1 4 months ago
@Epilogue02
nothingness is a lack of experience you cannot undergo a eternity or nothingness.
you has to undergo nothingness as a star where the elements the build up your body was formed but when you was born you didn't think "thank god that 100,000,000 years of nothingness is over that was hell" for you it is like it never happened. 1second and 100 million years of nothingness are both the same.
topbluffa1 4 months ago
@topbluffa1 How do you know that my soul will acquire a new body?
Epilogue02 4 months ago
@topbluffa1 Also, does this mean that for you: reincarnation has only been possible from the time humans existed? Do you see what I mean? The first human=first soul to have the potential to be reincarnated. So there was no reincarnation before humans came?
Epilogue02 4 months ago
no you can be reincarnated as a rock anything. its just that some forms have no conciousness which is a good thing because it means you can be stuck as a rock or a star for thousands of years but it doesn't get boring.
.and what makes you think i only think reincarnation has existed since humans? you can be reborn as a ant anything.
but hinduism makes it even more complicated it says your not the individual peice of energy/matter that currently makes up your body your all the energy now n ever
topbluffa1 4 months ago
@topbluffa1 Right, what makes that 'you', then? What aspect of you with any real worth will come back as a rock?
123456yum123456 3 months ago
i wanna leave on a ferry to france, i also want to take a cruise bah dun pish!
gomez9622 4 months ago
He's called Stephen not Steven.
MrYorkshireFella 4 months ago
I have nothing against people who are gay but i am starting to question whether homosexuality is a mental condition. I think it is.
210482fmj 4 months ago
@210482fmj Because, ofcourse, people who have always been 100% heterosexual never get depressed... It may be fair to say that living with issues about not feeling able to 'own' your true nature, in a still very intolerant world, could lead to psychological problems - such issues are not the sole province of gay people. And it's not their attraction to their own sex that's at fault. And I seriously doubt that being gay is intrinsicly linked to being sensitive or introspective.
plasticrubicon 4 months ago 2
The monstrosity of being alive... i understand that....
BoysLikeMeee 4 months ago 2
I suffer from maniac depresion, and it sucks cause the public seems to star, make fun og and creat a full negitity. Every day I wake up in a futreless lonley and a feling to keep me likeing them of the two.... It's fucking irratating, I feel like nothing, and I cant look another person in the eyes for more then half a second let alone connecting with the. Fuck all the haters I wouldn't even dare to wish this apon my worst enemys to live even an hour in my shoes
Dethclops7 4 months ago
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what a SHOCKER, a Catholic Church hater is depressed!!! i never would of guessed
PInk77W1 4 months ago
@PInk77W1 Don't come here to troll, depression is a serious topic.
AMPSPro 4 months ago
@AMPSPro your right it is a serious topic.... the fact that this clown hates the catholic church is VERY telling. let me get this straight. homeboy fry can say anything he wants about the catholic church and i cant respond?
PInk77W1 4 months ago
@AMPSPro especially the depression of a poor millionaire
PInk77W1 4 months ago
@PInk77W1 Well, it's an ad hominem fallacy anyway. And the suicide rates in catholic countries like Ireland and Poland is considerably higher than in more non-catholic countries like England, Denmark, Norway and The Netherlands. But personally, I think it's a cheap and not very nice point to make. And its logical wrong because suicide is primarily correlated with lack of sun.
olavm91 4 months ago
@olavm91 ad hominem? This guy goes ballistic about the catholic church and now u r worried about his poor little feelings? This clown is the crown prince of cheap. Not very nice? i just love how he rips on the catholic church and then he wants to kill himself...... too funny. The catholic church has a saying.... the last sacrament of an atheist is suicide.
PInk77W1 4 months ago
@PInk77W1 Of course you didn't even know the meaning of ad hominem... Even in your fifties. That's telling. And stop being such a bully towards people who suffer from depression. There is no causality between atheism and depression. There is however causality between lack of sun and genetical dispositions on the one side, and depression on the other. And of course he rips the catholic church. Why shouldn't he? He and Hitchens made a laughing stock of the catholics. You should be embarrased.
olavm91 4 months ago
@olavm91 um yes i know the meaning of ad hominem. of course u jump to conclusions. Fry is a joke, catholicism will prosper with or without him. If he kills himself that is his RIGHT. But the catholic church will b here 10,000 yrs from now. Poor little rich guy is depressed. In my job i almost get killed everyday and i probably make 1/10th or less as poor baby FRy. Im all broken up about his depression. It never ceases to amaze me how rich guys want to kill themselves, poor celebrities
PInk77W1 4 months ago
Anyone who thinks you can just snap out of depression has never suffered it, anyone who hasn't reached that point of such despair that the act of suicide is a relief because it's about to be over finally, anyone who hasn't even had that constant tormenting singular thought of suicide dripping like a tap and who hasn't had to feel like that for weeks, months or years has not suffered with depression - not major depression at least. Without antidepressants I'd kill myself within a week. Thanks :)
DrNjtp 4 months ago
Depression is a terrible thing. It was amazing to see him actually try and describe it on camera, because when you're depressed the outside world is just a bit too much to cope with yet he braved that for the sakes of the documentary. He's gone on and been brilliant despite his issues with it, really inspiring.
I love that man.
HerEyesWereWild 4 months ago 3
Depression is one of the top symptoms of gluten intolerance. I think that Stephen and others like him (myself included) can be helped by a gluten free diet, taking St. John's Wort and practicing energy medicine. In my experience, temporal lobe constriction causes depression; and, its relaxation thru meditation in conjunction with the above prescriptions are the cure. Deep meditation exercises help us to turn on Nirvana as will and chase those blues away.
Ncyim 4 months ago
@Ncyim Diseases are not symptoms of diseases alone. High blood pressure can be a sign of many things, but it can be due to high blood pressure. Are you with me?
thrashmetalteen 4 months ago
Thank you for speaking openly about this, Mr. Fry.I know how difficult it is not to hide yourself from the whole world when it hits you.I have deep respect that you spoke on camera,and what you discribed,its exactly that way.What helps me is to take God´s Word as medicine.When i read the bible on regular bases, and as a born again Christian i understand it,it prevents me from depression.It started when i was 16,i couldnt overcome it on my own.With God i have been through major victories.
MaranathaMaranatha 4 months ago
Well Fry... atheism will do that to ya.
BloodOfRayne 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne I am EXTREAMLY hoping you are not implying he gets depressed because he doesn't believe in God...... right???
MeganRR 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne Religion will prevent you from living your life to the fullest by telling you to not play with yourself and to be God's cheerleader so that you can go to a magical place in the sky when you die, not that this would be very enjoyable considering you can't commit sins (in other words: have fun) there either.
reltubnahte 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne A video of an extremely intelligent honest man commented on by a moron.
cockohoop69 4 months ago 3
@cockohoop69 An extremely intelligent man who is so depressed that he's tried to take his own life! Yeah... that sounds exteremely "itelligent" to me!
BloodOfRayne 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne I won't de like the usual youtuber and start a flame war and call you a "f*ggot" or a "n*gger" or whatever nonsense people use on here. However, unless you have felt that hopless and useless, you can't judge him. Stephen Fry was very brave not to succumb and it took great strengh for him to prosper. Stephen Fry is more intelligent than most people on the planet and probably you and I.
jdrocket 4 months ago
@jdrocket Ummm... excuse me... but I know all about bi-polar as I am bi-polar so what's your point because right now you are pissiing me off!
BloodOfRayne 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne I am surprised. You have felt the crushing lows of depression and don't understand (never mind haven't contemplated) suicide? And even more baffling; you would question the man's intelligence because of his illness (even more laughable when you present yourself in that manner). My life history and yours are semi-irrelivent in this discussion; what is important is Stephen Fry's.You know this, but depression and mania can not be chosen. Stephen Fry works hard to overcome his ilness.
jdrocket 4 months ago 2
@jdrocket BloodOfRayne is a well known troll, and I doubt he has the first clue about what it's like to suffer with major depression, ignore him :)
DrNjtp 4 months ago
@DrNjtp I figured. I thought i would engage him/her (just incase) due to the heavy subject matter and the sensitivity of the issue.
jdrocket 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne My auntie has bi-polar, has to spend time in the nut house fairly regularly and has had electro-convulsive therapy etc. But she doesn't get the depression anywhere near as strongly as the manic stage. One person's bi-polar isn't the same as another's in that regard, depression is also different for each person, some people just never get to suicidal where others such as Fry and myself end up in such a state with it that we're not quite rational and decide to kill ourselves.
DrNjtp 4 months ago
@DrNjtp I remain convinced that while everyone can get depressed, only some of us are unfortunate enough to be cursed with major depression, especially when it comes in the form of a life-long struggle with no rhyme or reason besides genetics and biochemical imbalance. It's because bi-polar and major depression run through my family like a river that I've rendered myself sterile - I'd loath to pass this on to a child knowing they'll probably be like me.
DrNjtp 4 months ago
@jdrocket I can f**king judge him all I want because I was diagnosed bi-polar at 16 years of age so don't f***ing sit there and tell me that I don't understand bi-polar depression you cunt! I know exactly what bit feels like to wanna hug someone and then rip their f**king head off! I'm OH SOOO QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT THIS MY FRIEND!!! D:
BloodOfRayne 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne And I wIll tell you someting else about bi-polar disorder! It DOESN'T make you more wise! When you're on a HIGH! NO-one can tell you that what you're thinking is bullshit! You know EVERYTHING and everyone else is stupid until you come falling down back into the pitt you're always trying to climb out of! You are NOT bi-polar so don't even try to understand this illness you FUCK!
BloodOfRayne 4 months ago
@BloodOfRayne Your retarded
Grimblex0728 4 months ago
@Grimblex0728 Don't you mean "you're retarded"?
yurismir1 4 months ago
Many times the funniest people ever have it. Chris farley had it, robin williams had it, so did david cross. In a way though, its those lows that make them who they are. Only when one has felt utter sadness do they truly appreciate whats funny and happy.
FunkEfied 4 months ago 2
i had no idea he suffered from depression, he's such a pleasant man and he always seems so charming!
jadagod 4 months ago
Can someone please help me?
I think I have Cyclothymia. Stephen's speech from 2:30-3:06 is EXACTLY how I have felt today. It's so black. And everything slows down - It takes longer to process what I get told or what I want to say to someone.
I feel so alone right now - I don't think any of my friends will understand.
RikMayallAddict 4 months ago
I don't know whether I suffer this but I've gotten suicidal with little thoughts and images about my self that just makes me want to either not wake up or just live away from everyone.
I consider that instead of killing myself I may as well walk this earth if anything and just see where life throws me. Think that sounds stupid and disorganised? Better than being dead.
Dolphidood 4 months ago
@Dolphidood yes, its definitely depression but don't off yourself or go along with the suicidal ideation. i like to think that we all have our moments of contemplating it (myself included) but time usually heals wounds. and as for walking the earth aimlessly, don't do that either. some call it bohemianism, others would call it being homeless. i would be worried about the risks that it would entail.
cyberwaffles 4 months ago
@cyberwaffles Thanks for taking time to talk but if worst comes to worst it will probably be that. To be honest I've lived in 13 different houses and have witnessed 9 different relationships and so to simply experience without aim is not new.
Dolphidood 4 months ago
@Dolphidood wow sorry for all the changes you've gone through. wherever life takes you try your best and best of luck.
cyberwaffles 4 months ago