Dear Jim: I hope you keep these eschatology-type you tube videos coming, as I think many calvinists could spiritually profit from them! As always, I love you in Christ's Agape Love, BobbyK
It will be a happy day when McClarty and MacArthur both leave their Darby theology behind and embrace the historically reformed position. I will jump for joy the day that happens.
does this mean also that the Sabbath day is still to be observed today? Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day
@hemet92544 - Yes, if you are a Jew who is still attempting to establish your righteousness via the Law of Sinai, then the Sabbath day is still to be observed. Remember that Jesus was speaking to that exact group in Matthew 24. But, the necessity to keep the Sabbath, in accordance with the law of Moses and the covenant made between God and Israel, does not apply to the church of Jesus Christ. Make sure that you recognize the distinctions between the two covenants, old and new.
@SalvationByGraceOrg hello Pastor Jim, trying to get this, I also clicked on text for this video :-) .....if Jesus meant "futurist view" when he was talking about what his elect should do when the time comes in this chapter, watch, be aware, the elect might be deceived if possible "doesn't that mean its possible then"?, I don't get then how this takes away the Sabbath if he said this also....no I am not a SDA, I have been around them, so no to that. thanks
Great video, as always from Mr McClarty. The pointless obsession with some have with the absurd pre-, post-, etc. tribulation 'theology' positions is, I think, skilfully undermined here. It's true the word γενεα is open to different interpretation, but surely the context of Revelation 7 (to name but one example) shows the consistent fullness of Jesus' message.
I greatly respect you and gain a lot from this but I feel like this almost affirms my amillennialism. This is not the same as post-millennial, which is horribly anti-Scriptural. I personally believe the church age from the Edict of Milan up until about the Renaissance is the millennium because that's when Christianity spread freely around the world without hindrance. Now, Satan has been released and we still await Christ's return to make things right. To be continued...
@MooMeg85 I think pre-tribs greatly forget that the Gentile Christians have been grafted into Israel and that we have the same blood, therefore the same generation as them because we all have Christ's blood. Romans 11:11-24 is clear on that. I think the whole separation of Jew and Gentile is the biggest reason I reject dispensationalism because in Christ there is no distinction. But I certainly don't shrink in horror at either form of pre-millennialism.
A little problem to work out concerning your argument. If phyiscal Israel, meaning ethnic Jews, are going to once again be God's wife and the Church according to Ephesians five is also God's wife, that would be two separate wives. Certainly, God has not rejected the believing ethnic Jew and Gentile believers are not cast out either. They together are one wife and one Israel. Second problem. Are there any pure ethnic Jews today? Do any them know what tribe they are from?
Mat_12:41-42 "The men of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and behold, something greater than Jonah is here. The queen of the South will rise up at the judgment with this generation... for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and behold, something greater than Solomon is here." The meaning of "this generation" here is strong evidence he used the term for his contemporaries.
In Matthew 23, Jesus pronounces woes on the Pharisees and scribes, saying all the righteous blood would come upon "this generation." Judgment comes after the rejection and crucifixion of Jesus, the iniquity being full. The context of Matthew 24 is set up by the judgment coming on those people. That makes the most sense to me, anyway.
@5.53 Jesus' sitting on the throne of David is NOT during some mythical 1000 year reign. Peter tells us what it is in Acts 2:30-31 It was fulfilled by the resurrection.
You have a problem Jesus said you, ye, your, over a dozen times the disciples would not have been thinking of some future descendants, they would have thought of themselves. Also this generation will not pass away UNTIL..., the idea is that with your interpretation the Jewish nation will pass out of existence when these things are fulfilled, that makes it awful hard to have a 1000yr Jewish reign. But THAT generation standing before Jesus could pass away and the race of Jews would go on.
@WCOFTheology - No problem. The Greek word is "heos" -- a preposition and adverb of continuance. It can be rendered "even until" or "even unto" according to the best Greek dictionaries. It doesn't indicate an end when the events of Matt. 24:34 come to their completion. It indicates a continuance through all those events. Continued...
Or, to view it another way, look at how Matthew uses the word in other passages. For instance, in 11:12 Jesus said, " From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force." So, did the suffering end when Jesus spoke those words? Did it end when He said "now"? Or, was He simply saying that there was a continuing effect of violence against the kingdom of Heaven?
Or in 11:23, Jesus said, "And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day." So, if Sodom had indeed responded positively to those miracles would they have only continued up until the moment when Jesus said these words? No. They would have continued up until, and then through, that moment in time.
There are other similar examples. The word "until" in Matt. 24:34 simply means that Israel will continue up until and through the moment when "all these things come to pass." The idea that Jesus was saying they would somehow end at that moment makes no sense, theologically or contextually, when you consider the further prophecies concerning Israel's participation in the kingdom and New Jerusalem.
Thanks Pastor Jim. I'd heard something of this explanation before but not in this much detail. How you deal with Matthew 10:23, "When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes"? Obviously, the Gospel went to all the towns of Israel long before the end of the first century AD. Isn't this verse a stronger argument for the historical view than even Matthew 24:34? God bless.
@monergist007 Actually Paul said the Gospel was preached in all the world before A.D. 70. Jesus was speaking of their known world i.e. the Roman Empire. Also Historians say that the Gospel even made it to India and China.
Jim well done.
watershoe5 3 days ago
Dear Jim: I hope you keep these eschatology-type you tube videos coming, as I think many calvinists could spiritually profit from them! As always, I love you in Christ's Agape Love, BobbyK
bobby7771117 4 days ago
brother i like your style clear concise and thorough but i am going to have to watch this like three more times to get it...lol
theflarpus 2 weeks ago
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seekert6 3 weeks ago
It will be a happy day when McClarty and MacArthur both leave their Darby theology behind and embrace the historically reformed position. I will jump for joy the day that happens.
ShownMercy 3 weeks ago
does this mean also that the Sabbath day is still to be observed today? Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day
hemet92544 3 weeks ago
@hemet92544 - Yes, if you are a Jew who is still attempting to establish your righteousness via the Law of Sinai, then the Sabbath day is still to be observed. Remember that Jesus was speaking to that exact group in Matthew 24. But, the necessity to keep the Sabbath, in accordance with the law of Moses and the covenant made between God and Israel, does not apply to the church of Jesus Christ. Make sure that you recognize the distinctions between the two covenants, old and new.
SalvationByGraceOrg 3 weeks ago
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seekert6 3 weeks ago
@SalvationByGraceOrg So are you saying that there is "a righteousness" to be gained by observing the law?
cheagan 3 weeks ago
@SalvationByGraceOrg hello Pastor Jim, trying to get this, I also clicked on text for this video :-) .....if Jesus meant "futurist view" when he was talking about what his elect should do when the time comes in this chapter, watch, be aware, the elect might be deceived if possible "doesn't that mean its possible then"?, I don't get then how this takes away the Sabbath if he said this also....no I am not a SDA, I have been around them, so no to that. thanks
hemet92544 2 weeks ago
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seekert6 3 weeks ago
Great video, as always from Mr McClarty. The pointless obsession with some have with the absurd pre-, post-, etc. tribulation 'theology' positions is, I think, skilfully undermined here. It's true the word γενεα is open to different interpretation, but surely the context of Revelation 7 (to name but one example) shows the consistent fullness of Jesus' message.
curvalecce 2 months ago
I greatly respect you and gain a lot from this but I feel like this almost affirms my amillennialism. This is not the same as post-millennial, which is horribly anti-Scriptural. I personally believe the church age from the Edict of Milan up until about the Renaissance is the millennium because that's when Christianity spread freely around the world without hindrance. Now, Satan has been released and we still await Christ's return to make things right. To be continued...
MooMeg85 2 months ago
@MooMeg85 I think pre-tribs greatly forget that the Gentile Christians have been grafted into Israel and that we have the same blood, therefore the same generation as them because we all have Christ's blood. Romans 11:11-24 is clear on that. I think the whole separation of Jew and Gentile is the biggest reason I reject dispensationalism because in Christ there is no distinction. But I certainly don't shrink in horror at either form of pre-millennialism.
MooMeg85 2 months ago
A little problem to work out concerning your argument. If phyiscal Israel, meaning ethnic Jews, are going to once again be God's wife and the Church according to Ephesians five is also God's wife, that would be two separate wives. Certainly, God has not rejected the believing ethnic Jew and Gentile believers are not cast out either. They together are one wife and one Israel. Second problem. Are there any pure ethnic Jews today? Do any them know what tribe they are from?
VeryImagesozo 2 months ago
Mat_12:41-42 "The men of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and behold, something greater than Jonah is here. The queen of the South will rise up at the judgment with this generation... for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and behold, something greater than Solomon is here." The meaning of "this generation" here is strong evidence he used the term for his contemporaries.
SopaterTheBerean 2 months ago
In Matthew 23, Jesus pronounces woes on the Pharisees and scribes, saying all the righteous blood would come upon "this generation." Judgment comes after the rejection and crucifixion of Jesus, the iniquity being full. The context of Matthew 24 is set up by the judgment coming on those people. That makes the most sense to me, anyway.
SopaterTheBerean 2 months ago
@5.53 Jesus' sitting on the throne of David is NOT during some mythical 1000 year reign. Peter tells us what it is in Acts 2:30-31 It was fulfilled by the resurrection.
Blogrich55 2 months ago
My question to you Pastor McClarty is simply this: WHAT word should Jesus used IF He did mean THAT present generation? God bless.
Blogrich55 2 months ago
You have a problem Jesus said you, ye, your, over a dozen times the disciples would not have been thinking of some future descendants, they would have thought of themselves. Also this generation will not pass away UNTIL..., the idea is that with your interpretation the Jewish nation will pass out of existence when these things are fulfilled, that makes it awful hard to have a 1000yr Jewish reign. But THAT generation standing before Jesus could pass away and the race of Jews would go on.
WCOFTheology 2 months ago
@WCOFTheology - No problem. The Greek word is "heos" -- a preposition and adverb of continuance. It can be rendered "even until" or "even unto" according to the best Greek dictionaries. It doesn't indicate an end when the events of Matt. 24:34 come to their completion. It indicates a continuance through all those events. Continued...
SBGGCA 2 months ago
Or, to view it another way, look at how Matthew uses the word in other passages. For instance, in 11:12 Jesus said, " From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force." So, did the suffering end when Jesus spoke those words? Did it end when He said "now"? Or, was He simply saying that there was a continuing effect of violence against the kingdom of Heaven?
SBGGCA 2 months ago
Or in 11:23, Jesus said, "And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day." So, if Sodom had indeed responded positively to those miracles would they have only continued up until the moment when Jesus said these words? No. They would have continued up until, and then through, that moment in time.
SBGGCA 2 months ago
There are other similar examples. The word "until" in Matt. 24:34 simply means that Israel will continue up until and through the moment when "all these things come to pass." The idea that Jesus was saying they would somehow end at that moment makes no sense, theologically or contextually, when you consider the further prophecies concerning Israel's participation in the kingdom and New Jerusalem.
So, don't let that word hang you up.
Hope that helps.
Jim
SBGGCA 2 months ago
Thanks Pastor Jim. I'd heard something of this explanation before but not in this much detail. How you deal with Matthew 10:23, "When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes"? Obviously, the Gospel went to all the towns of Israel long before the end of the first century AD. Isn't this verse a stronger argument for the historical view than even Matthew 24:34? God bless.
monergist007 2 months ago
@monergist007 Actually Paul said the Gospel was preached in all the world before A.D. 70. Jesus was speaking of their known world i.e. the Roman Empire. Also Historians say that the Gospel even made it to India and China.
WCOFTheology 2 months ago