each of the rites you describe is different in one respect from another, be it missa, missa cantata, missa solemnis. They each have their own characteristics. The pontifical mass can be either cantata or solemnis.
missa cantata is indeed different from a low mass (missa) and although the Missa Solemnis (or high mass) is different from the Low Mass it is, actually significantly different from the Missa Cantata (or Solemn Mass). Missa Cantata and missa Solemnis are both more similar to each other than they are to Missa (or Low MAss) but they are not in fact one and the same thing!
as I said...ritual notes will probably back me up!
ritual notes? i donknow what they are... but i think what you are doing is making fine distinction between the very different levels... but my undertsanding is that the primary distinction is only between low mass and high mass, and that missa cantata qualifies as a high mass... but missa cantata is certainly not a puntifical high mass, and yet both are high masses. My source is the coalition ecclesia dei.
pacislander you are not entirely correct...yes this is missa cantata which is solemn mass, the solemn high mass is with deacon and subdeacon - missa cantata or solemn mass is with just the celebrant...you may want to check ritual notes of course!
@pianoenthusiast11 I'm afraid you are incorrect...Missa Cantata (latin for Sung) is a Sung Mass (which is classified as one priest, Gregorian chant and/or sacred polyphony, and a score of servers) a Missa Solemnis (latin for Solemn) is a Solemn Mass in which there is a priest, deacon, and a subdeacon with incense, a score of servers, and Gregorian chant and/or sacred polyphony. Thus, there is some overlap between the Sung Mass and the Solemn Mass.
"The form of a table shall more move the simple from the superstitious opinions of the popish Mass unto the right use of the Lord's Supper. For the use of an altar is to make sacrifice upon it; the use of a table is to serve for men to eat upon."
--Nicholas Ridley, anglican "bishop" of London, 1550
What is the name of the song after the "Credo"?
Halatu77 1 year ago
What is the name of the song after the "Credo"?
Halatu77 1 year ago
What is the name of the song after the 'Credo'?
Halatu77 1 year ago
each of the rites you describe is different in one respect from another, be it missa, missa cantata, missa solemnis. They each have their own characteristics. The pontifical mass can be either cantata or solemnis.
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
missa cantata is indeed different from a low mass (missa) and although the Missa Solemnis (or high mass) is different from the Low Mass it is, actually significantly different from the Missa Cantata (or Solemn Mass). Missa Cantata and missa Solemnis are both more similar to each other than they are to Missa (or Low MAss) but they are not in fact one and the same thing!
as I said...ritual notes will probably back me up!
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
ritual notes? i donknow what they are... but i think what you are doing is making fine distinction between the very different levels... but my undertsanding is that the primary distinction is only between low mass and high mass, and that missa cantata qualifies as a high mass... but missa cantata is certainly not a puntifical high mass, and yet both are high masses. My source is the coalition ecclesia dei.
pacislander4life 3 years ago
pacislander you are not entirely correct...yes this is missa cantata which is solemn mass, the solemn high mass is with deacon and subdeacon - missa cantata or solemn mass is with just the celebrant...you may want to check ritual notes of course!
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
missa cantata is a high mass... as distinguished from a low mass...
pacislander4life 3 years ago
@pianoenthusiast11 I'm afraid you are incorrect...Missa Cantata (latin for Sung) is a Sung Mass (which is classified as one priest, Gregorian chant and/or sacred polyphony, and a score of servers) a Missa Solemnis (latin for Solemn) is a Solemn Mass in which there is a priest, deacon, and a subdeacon with incense, a score of servers, and Gregorian chant and/or sacred polyphony. Thus, there is some overlap between the Sung Mass and the Solemn Mass.
rpgabc123 1 month ago
this is a wonderful video and it would be wonderfuller still to see the coffee table moved from infront of the altar!
it is, however, not a 'High' mass as there are not 3 sacred ministers, what this is is technically a 'solemn' mass...very nice none the less!
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
this is missa cantata, which qualifies for a high mass. The one with a deacon and a subdeacon is called a solemn high mass
pacislander4life 3 years ago
I agree... hey Mr. Pacisislander4life.... were you at this mass?
cunaboy213 3 years ago
yes i was 3 rows back on the right
pacislander4life 3 years ago
wonderful, now we just need to move the "table" from in front of the Altar.
busdriver254 4 years ago
"The form of a table shall more move the simple from the superstitious opinions of the popish Mass unto the right use of the Lord's Supper. For the use of an altar is to make sacrifice upon it; the use of a table is to serve for men to eat upon."
--Nicholas Ridley, anglican "bishop" of London, 1550
tleatherland 4 years ago