In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is the savior and hope.
The Whoever is most likely Arthur L. Allen. Circumstantially he get's tagged everywhere except for the DNA. However it is widely known ALA never licked his envelopes because the glue made him sick. So that could be anyone's DNA on those envelopes. We'll just never know.
he was never caught. it bugs me every day. i think about it every day and i just wish that he would get caught. even if he is dead just to know who he is would give the families of the victims some sort of relief.
in case yall didnt notice is that in the start of the video there is a red symbol on a sign that is posted on the fence, i personally saw it because i live near lake herman road and it is the Zodaic symbol, it actually is kinda freakky freakky wierd wierd
@Exilemainstreet Lol I talked to the woman who drove it- she's lived there for years and had never heard of the Zodiac killer. I found that hard to believe but she was totally clueless about Z and the historic nature of the location..
my freind said he his grandfather is the zodiac killer he was yellin me about him and the website his sister runs all about the deaths i personally dont beleive him but i wonder what wud happen if i told the cops
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED I just saw the movie and got interested about this Zodiac killer, do they have any idea who it might have been or was it that guy from the end of the movie which died of a heart attack later.??
The guy you're talking about is called Arthur Leigh Allen, and no, he was NOT the Zodiac. He's been ruled out time after time. Think about it for a second, Allen was a child molestor and yet Zodiac targeted couples. If Zodiac was some degenerate kiddie-fiddler, he would have targeted children as serial killers tend to kill groups whom they desire whether that be children or women.
I think Zodiac was a young, socially inept man with a massive inferiority complex. Maybe a virgin.
@louthegiantcookie your right. Have you seen the video of the guy who claims to be zodiacs stepson and says has film pictures of victims and the hood he wore. What do you think about it?
@salvadro9298 I have not been too impressed with any of the so-called "suspects" that the police and various authors/website owners have pushed.
The guy got away with it.. my gut says he was in law enforcement, simply based on his tactics and how he taunted them. But until someone comes up with hard evidence it's pure speculation.
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED i have been so interested in this ever since i saw the movie ..i just read about a suspect named richard gaikowski...all you have to do is look at his picture and look at the scetch of the zodiac ...it is almost identical
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED You do realize that ALA had the same shoes, the watch, he discussed killing people with his friends (in the ways these were killed), he also took one of his friends to the murder site right after the murder. That sounds pretty suspicious. Now, I'm not sure he worked alone but that is a different story.....
@laubklein Yep I've read all the books and know all the things that make him a great suspect. Problem is- he looks nothing like any of the renderings of the Zodiac, his DNA did not match the DNA on envelopes, and not one piece of evidence has been located that connects him despite multiple searches. Great suspect and odd dude- but not the zodiac.
I always wondered why they left the Lake Herman road murders out of the movie. I guess probably no surviving witnesses but still they are hardly referenced.
@carnut92506 Yeah I have read the case files, in addition to visiting all the crime scenes. Lake Herman Road happened 12-20-1968, Blue Rocks Springs happened 07-04-1969. Those dates are established facts and are not in dispute by anyone, other than you.
@carnut92506 It's not what I say, it's what every book, website, official record says. How about you point me to ONE website that supports your claim of "Blue Rock Springs is the scene of the First murder, not the second. This is not in chronological order."
Well the person who wrote the letters to the SF Chronicle enclosed actual parts of Stine's shirt, and referenced several details that were not public information, so I'm thinking it's his work.
Excellent video MSF. Thanks for posting. Did it feel strange standing at the spot of the Stine shooting? I thought you were going to pull up & park at the exact spot at one point.
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In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is the savior and hope.
diptdipt 1 month ago
Whoever it was (The Zodiac) is obviously dead.
The Whoever is most likely Arthur L. Allen. Circumstantially he get's tagged everywhere except for the DNA. However it is widely known ALA never licked his envelopes because the glue made him sick. So that could be anyone's DNA on those envelopes. We'll just never know.
tiemo25 1 month ago
he was never caught. it bugs me every day. i think about it every day and i just wish that he would get caught. even if he is dead just to know who he is would give the families of the victims some sort of relief.
criminalminds1234567 3 months ago
in case yall didnt notice is that in the start of the video there is a red symbol on a sign that is posted on the fence, i personally saw it because i live near lake herman road and it is the Zodaic symbol, it actually is kinda freakky freakky wierd wierd
FunnyKat29 4 months ago
The BMW at Wash and Cherry took off. Very suspicious.
Exilemainstreet 4 months ago
@Exilemainstreet Lol I talked to the woman who drove it- she's lived there for years and had never heard of the Zodiac killer. I found that hard to believe but she was totally clueless about Z and the historic nature of the location..
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 4 months ago
my freind said he his grandfather is the zodiac killer he was yellin me about him and the website his sister runs all about the deaths i personally dont beleive him but i wonder what wud happen if i told the cops
brandonsims131 6 months ago
is that blood on the sign at 1:00?
TacoHD 6 months ago
whats the movie??
StarfulSkittles 7 months ago
anyone else come here after watching "The Curse Of The Zodiac" ??
StarfulSkittles 8 months ago
Looks like he's right. He was crack proof.
IcedEarth426 10 months ago
Is anyone else creeped out by the Zodiac sign someone left on the road at 1:00?
Very creepy video, good work!
louthegiantcookie 1 year ago 5
@louthegiantcookie Yeah that is creepy. Glad you liked the video!
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 1 year ago
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED I just saw the movie and got interested about this Zodiac killer, do they have any idea who it might have been or was it that guy from the end of the movie which died of a heart attack later.??
salvadro9298 1 year ago
@salvadro9298
The guy you're talking about is called Arthur Leigh Allen, and no, he was NOT the Zodiac. He's been ruled out time after time. Think about it for a second, Allen was a child molestor and yet Zodiac targeted couples. If Zodiac was some degenerate kiddie-fiddler, he would have targeted children as serial killers tend to kill groups whom they desire whether that be children or women.
I think Zodiac was a young, socially inept man with a massive inferiority complex. Maybe a virgin.
louthegiantcookie 1 year ago
@louthegiantcookie your right. Have you seen the video of the guy who claims to be zodiacs stepson and says has film pictures of victims and the hood he wore. What do you think about it?
salvadro9298 1 year ago
@salvadro9298 I have not been too impressed with any of the so-called "suspects" that the police and various authors/website owners have pushed.
The guy got away with it.. my gut says he was in law enforcement, simply based on his tactics and how he taunted them. But until someone comes up with hard evidence it's pure speculation.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 1 year ago 2
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED He got away...could be in retirement right now enjoying what he got left os his dark life
salvadro9298 1 year ago
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED i have been so interested in this ever since i saw the movie ..i just read about a suspect named richard gaikowski...all you have to do is look at his picture and look at the scetch of the zodiac ...it is almost identical
littlea511 1 year ago
@salvadro9298 Nobody knows that
AdrianoCROST 10 months ago
@louthegiantcookie ya that is creepy. i wonder if the zodiac killer is still alive.
criminalminds1234567 3 months ago
HEY WHAT PART OF WA U FROM I LOOKED AT ALL UR VIDS IN THEY MOSTLY N WA
SuperBceltics 1 year ago
Most killers will prowl areas they know. Which means they've been there before at some point.
Most people don't travel more then 20 miles 30 km from where they live.
With the exceptions of cabbies, truckers, vacationers etc.
This person lives in the greater SanFransico area.
Allen and a friend had been to Lake Berryessa before.
poodtang1 1 year ago
@poodtang1 Allen was not the guy, great suspect but not the guy.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 1 year ago 3
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED You do realize that ALA had the same shoes, the watch, he discussed killing people with his friends (in the ways these were killed), he also took one of his friends to the murder site right after the murder. That sounds pretty suspicious. Now, I'm not sure he worked alone but that is a different story.....
laubklein 6 days ago
@laubklein Yep I've read all the books and know all the things that make him a great suspect. Problem is- he looks nothing like any of the renderings of the Zodiac, his DNA did not match the DNA on envelopes, and not one piece of evidence has been located that connects him despite multiple searches. Great suspect and odd dude- but not the zodiac.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 6 days ago
I always wondered why they left the Lake Herman road murders out of the movie. I guess probably no surviving witnesses but still they are hardly referenced.
Ladiestreat 1 year ago
Blue Rock Springs is the scene of the First murder, not the second. This is not in chronological order.
carnut92506 1 year ago
@carnut92506 It is in the right order, blue rocks springs murder was over 6 months after the lake herman road one.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 1 year ago
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED No, it is not in the correct chronological order. Read the case files!
carnut92506 1 year ago
@carnut92506 Yeah I have read the case files, in addition to visiting all the crime scenes. Lake Herman Road happened 12-20-1968, Blue Rocks Springs happened 07-04-1969. Those dates are established facts and are not in dispute by anyone, other than you.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 1 year ago
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED Whatever you say dude!
carnut92506 1 year ago
@carnut92506 It's not what I say, it's what every book, website, official record says. How about you point me to ONE website that supports your claim of "Blue Rock Springs is the scene of the First murder, not the second. This is not in chronological order."
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 1 year ago
@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED carnut is an IDIOT.
thekingchivas 1 year ago
@carnut92506 Not correct ! You think that because police found later for the first murder so they think that second murder is first but it's not.
AdrianoCROST 11 months ago
I am not 100% certain that the Zodiac killed Paul Stine. Doesn't seem like his MO in the least.
dgagnon313 2 years ago
Well the person who wrote the letters to the SF Chronicle enclosed actual parts of Stine's shirt, and referenced several details that were not public information, so I'm thinking it's his work.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 2 years ago
Good footage! It would be nice to see shots of the old crime scene photos along with it.
ederrt 2 years ago
Thank you shooting this! Awesome HD!
KevinSean116 2 years ago
commentary would have been awesome.
(or like captions that youtube now provides)
nice vids tho
DanEVonDoom 2 years ago
ok so wait, there was a sodiac killer at lake berryessa?
celtics590 2 years ago
um... yes a long long time ago any other dumb questions?
DanEVonDoom 2 years ago
Excellent video MSF. Thanks for posting. Did it feel strange standing at the spot of the Stine shooting? I thought you were going to pull up & park at the exact spot at one point.
belief1994 2 years ago
Yeah it was a little odd.. the lake berryessa scene was by far the strangest one.
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 2 years ago
This is aggravating..
astrolifter 3 years ago
What is so aggravating?
MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED 3 years ago
@astrolifter aggravating ??? LOL
AdrianoCROST 2 years ago
I think I was on my period at the time.
astrolifter 2 years ago