the movie Beowulf is very loosely based on the epic,it was a story made with the characters and some of the events from the epic,but its from a very different perspective,the message is very well presented,as well as I believe the acting,Ray Winstone made Beowulf macho,heroic,but in the same time weak,dissatisfied and unhappy.The essence of the two works is different.As far as the CGI,I believe it is a fitting way to tell such a story.
@mastermultitasker I agree with you on this as well. I love both the epic as well as the movie adaption. It has also been told there are countless adaptions of Beowulf and none are really the same, and the movie adaption is one of them. I pretty much believe Beowulf is a demigod...but who knows? You do have a point though. The movie gave Beowulf humanity by creating struggles that he faced as well as coruption. In the movie as well as the poem though, he's still a hero and dies a hero.
@Jammed9000 Sorry, I messed it up and forgot to reply the actual one. What I wrote was that people just need to chill. They get worked up over the fact Avatar borrowed story elements from others when other great movies have done the same. You know what I recommend? Zoloft. Takes the edge off and makes you more optimistic and less of a cynical douchebag.
...I personally love this piece...I think it was Ray Winstone who played Beowulf in this (not too sure) but when he says his speech to the raider and when he's like "I am BEEEEEEEOOOOOOWULLLLFFFF!" Your just like..."Mate that was pretty f*cken awsome." Plus the guy that plays Wiglaf played Hamish in Braveheart, another big-bearded awsome dude xD I just lahv this film, and the score. Props <3
I personally think they should make this in live action. I loved the CGI version and I understand the complications of making it live action but... the story is simply amazing and thats what made this movie good. I do agree that the cgi created some awkward moments which is why i feel it wasnt appreciated as much as it should have been.
However with all the technology today its possible to create an amazing live action version mixed with cgi and practical effects.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
I hated both Beowulf and the new Alice because both directors didn't understand where the original pieces came from. However both bathed the scenes in CGI and laced it with bad actors (Anthony Hopkins excluded) They were just new "shiny's" that had the audience baited.
I don't care how much a movie makes, it doesn't mean its good, it just means it baited enough people to see it. Avatar was blue fluff and its on top with sales, that doesn't mean its good, it means people are fish.
In all honesty, I didn't like Avatar either. Sure, the visual effects were something astounding, but the story was the typical 'romeo and juliet' plot.
However, I do believe that this film Beowulf had a distinct difference about it. I don't love it because its CGI (which does create some awkward moments), but I love the plot. Story is a big thing for me, as I am a writer myself, but personally, I love the change. This film seems more human.
@TheBeowulf2007 that sir, is where you are wrong, Avatar was a sifi recreation of the Native American story, not really anywhere close to a romeo and juliet.
It may not be a 'Romeo Juliet', but it is deffinately a typical love story.
'Boy from one group. Girl from another. They fall in forbidden love. One has to choose their family, or their love. Generally, he chooses love. Big fight, and love wins over all.
And yet no matter how typical, I LOVE the plot. ^_^
@TheBeowulf2007 well the story isn't just typical... if you see "Pocahondas" you'll know what i mean... every thing is the same!
bad guys goes to an other land where they worship the earth and they have a material there that is needed by the bad guys, one of the bad guys learns the ways of the others and loves a girl from them.... he tries to keep the bad guys from attacking , he cant stop them... the good guysget backup from nearby villages war happens and so on... the SAME thing
@TheBeowulf2007 Love wins overall? That's what you got from the movie? Jesus I got a much more morbid and cynical take on the idea of 'love' and 'woman' than anything...
@TheBeowulf2007 Beowulf was a good movie. Avatar was a good movie, which was a lot like Pocahontas.
The reason why these were good movies, was because they were entertaining. The took the original story, made it as similar as they could, and took some artistic liberties with the storylines. Apart from that, they were both solid movies with great actors and emotional characters. The music in both is fantastic, and the effect the film creates is astounding. So please, just don't argue.
I agree, Beowulf's characters are deeply flawed with good intentions, just the way human characters should be. Also, Avatar isn't Romeo and Juilet per say, it's Pocahontas in space with blue kitties.
Avatar is just a combination of blue monkeys, africa, pocahontas, romeo and juliet, and halo ( the videogame, if you notice, lots of weapons are similar to the videogame, the air ships looks like pelicans and hornets, the robots looks like cyclops, etc etc). That movie just stink, people who like it is because they awesome with visual effects and are obsessed with the awfully new love themes ( like twilight)
I agree, the new beowulf was terrible. The animation, the script, the acting. Only good thing was the music. And it didnt capture the magic of the poem.
I would prephere you to direct ur wrath at the new Narnia adaptation, then Alice in wonderland.
Tim burton wanted to make alice in stop-motion but stupid Disney told him he had to use CGI. The acting was really good with Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter and the new actress Mia Wasikowska, who I felt made a perfect alice.
@PrisonCipher no, not really, I just hate people coming into a video just to say "oh I hate this blablabla" just dont say anything, if you dont like it then why the hell would you search the video, watch it and then comment about it saying that it sucks ?
@Bercilaknight ...so then move on. Playing "holier than thou" when all you really want to do is play tit for tat is trite and really just a waste of our time. To make it more clear for you, I didn't search the vid, it came off the side panel, secondly I was responding to several comments on here, its my opinion, I'm not going to stifle it just because someone might not like it. In the end the same could be said about you, "People who just don't move on and nag about someone else's opinion."
I think the movie is great. Although it doen't tell exact the story of the poem, but it still describes the heroic characteristic of Beowulf clearly. Even the 2/3 god king Gilgamesh is not perfect in every aspect in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
I find it funny how a lot of people on here are complaining about the accuracy of the story when they likely had not even heard of it until the movie came out and then googled it on the internet, also the poem was an untrue fable which was likely told over and over with each person telling a different version over the past thousand plus years
@krazykeren1 Wrong, Beowulf as we know it today has not changed over the past thousand years. We infer it from the oldest copy of the epic in.... IF i remember correctly, the Nowell Codex, written around 1000 CE.
@TheBeowulf2007: I agree with you ... We learned about Beowulf in Liceum (High School) ,after we went through the antique literature (2nd year or so). And basicaly,you cant make Beowulf story the same...as i remember it wasnt "chronicled" on paper,right? Well,i liked the movie.It had the epic/middle-eave kind of feel. AGREE? if not ,you are NOT BEOWULF! :D (ok lame joke)
The original story of Beowulf was kind of straight forward though, and its characters were cliches. Now, given it's age, you could say it STARTED some of those cliches lol, but still... they wanted to give it a little more depth is all.
The original story of Beowulf was kind of straight forward though, and its characters were cliches. Now, given it's age, you could say it STARTED some of those cliches lol, but still... they wanted to give it a little more depth is all.
it's not the deviations in the story that make me dislike it. it's how drastically they changed the characters. Beowulf is supposed to be a great hero, the epitome of man, flawless and noble - and they made him a frothing lying egomaniac.
the 13th warrior deviates quite a bit, too, but it's a much better retelling of Beowulf.
@porcupotomus yeah i know what you mean. When something like that happens i can't watch it as a retelling. I just have to watch it as a movie, if that makes any sense.
It would have been a completely different movie had they stuck to the original story, and I think it would have made for a brilliant film. However, I think the reason Zemeckis chose Beowulf's character the way he did was to make it believable. Nobody is perfect. Not even Beowulf.
But maybe the actual reason was because if Beowulf was perfect, he wouldnot have slept with Grendel's mother, meaning no big Dragon to fight.
there was still a dragon in the original story. in the poem, grendel's mother is a wolf who lives at the bottom of a boiling lake. he fought her in an ancient hall under the lake built by giants where he found a huge sword that only he could wield because of its size. he rent her head from her shoulders, did the same to grendel's head, and brought them back as proof. then, later, a dragon came. it wasn't his son, just a particularly evil dragon that happened by.
Now you see, that's not a film like story. It's a series of events. Beowulf fights him, then her, then him and that's it. No relation. Zemeckis wanted a plot that would link all the elements. To link the dragon to the story, he had to find a way of it being part of the original threat. A second son. However, would Hrothgar sleep with her twice? Why does it not strike WITH Grendel? Obviously it had to come after.
Basically, the story's elements had to join together.
if it's the storytellers goal to merely link the events to make a movie out of them... and he ends up fundamentally changing the entire story and all of the characters... that storyteller flat sucks at his job. this movie has only the loose outline of the original story, but still it boasts the name "Beowulf" in order to market on the poem's popularity. this is why it pisses me off. it's pretending to be something it's not.
Okay, so according to your above statement, Tim Burton sucks.
He took the story of Alice in Wonderland and put a story behind all the events, linking them together. Now, the new film has a storyline that is very different to the previous source. It may be cheesy, but people like it when the characters shout. 'THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!' xD
Anywayz, we shouldn't be arguing. Basically, I liked the film, you didn't. End of story. Let us agree to disagree. Deal?
@TheBeowulf2007 you relize that the second alice in wonderland had to be made from pieces of "Through the Looking Glas", yes? because disney would not let them do a remake. merry part - Angel
This suprises you? There's very few accurate versions of the story. The only accurate looking one I've seen so far is the 1998 animated one. Then there's this, the scyfy one, Beowulf and Grendel, and the absolute worst the 1999 Beowulf movie with Christopher Lambert. Seriosuly at least this follows the poem rather accfurately up until Grendel's mother. It's not the poem unfortunately, but I wouldn't call it worse than the 1999 one.
@porcupotomus its not really a "deviation" per se, the movie's much more interesting story has that part with the Grendel's mother's slaying a tall tale told by Beowulf, and the dragon... the people just tell an epic of their hero as they believe, and so we have his epic in the Nowell Codex today. and the movie presents an interesting "what if..." with a secret, untold story behind Beowulf's life.
@porcupotomus actually, it has been found that the popular translations and hence the story as most ppl know it, sees Grendel's mother as a wretched creature (Her "fierce grip" was translated to "horrible claws" etc), but scholars say, that's not true, in the original text there are clues that she is either a "lady" or a valkyrie or something of equal status, a "roaming-slaughter spirit", a warrior woman. The poet had no ill will to creatures Beowulf fought, but more like they were noble equals.
@porcupotomus what deviations? there wasnt a whole lot of things that i managed to catch... can u tell me? The whole business with the horn and Grendel's mother... that's just "behind the scenes" of the Beowulf Epic. Because it was too late for the truth, the people hailed their hero, and told his tale just as we see it in the Nowell Codex today... or so that was what the movie is getting at.
@Shaft118 I don't think it deviates from the copy of the story in the Nowell Codex circa 1000 CE. The idea was that, there was a hidden backstory behind Beowulf's legend, and the tale told today was just what was told to the masses, and passed down ever since. Didn't Beowulf say "It's too late for the truth, isn't it?" after he killed his son? (I don't remember the quote verbatim but... you know).
Funny. The track title is "I Am Beowulf," but this music doesn't play there.
It plays as Grendel lays dying, and his mother comforts him.
GhostPlanetFilms 1 month ago
@GhostPlanetFilms not at all!! this song is played a lot of time during the film :)
goreur10 3 weeks ago
@goreur10 Oh...
GhostPlanetFilms 3 weeks ago
the movie Beowulf is very loosely based on the epic,it was a story made with the characters and some of the events from the epic,but its from a very different perspective,the message is very well presented,as well as I believe the acting,Ray Winstone made Beowulf macho,heroic,but in the same time weak,dissatisfied and unhappy.The essence of the two works is different.As far as the CGI,I believe it is a fitting way to tell such a story.
mastermultitasker 4 months ago 13
@mastermultitasker i agree wholly
TheBeowulf2007 4 months ago
@mastermultitasker I agree with you on this as well. I love both the epic as well as the movie adaption. It has also been told there are countless adaptions of Beowulf and none are really the same, and the movie adaption is one of them. I pretty much believe Beowulf is a demigod...but who knows? You do have a point though. The movie gave Beowulf humanity by creating struggles that he faced as well as coruption. In the movie as well as the poem though, he's still a hero and dies a hero.
DragonWorship006 3 months ago
all hail heroes, for though they die, they will return one day to protect us all once again. hail Arthur, hail Beowulf, hail Herecles!
championofhades 5 months ago 2
Comment removed
SidRulz100 6 months ago
Too bad we didnt see the'original'forms of Grendel and his Mother(Wich were like dragons without wings)
TheSephiroth5 7 months ago
hmm...It seems people think Avatar is ONLY a love story even though the themes are go a little deeper than that.
Jammed9000 7 months ago
Comment removed
TIEStudios 6 months ago
@TIEStudios
Why did you delete your message to me? I want to read it.
Jammed9000 6 months ago
@Jammed9000 Sorry, I messed it up and forgot to reply the actual one. What I wrote was that people just need to chill. They get worked up over the fact Avatar borrowed story elements from others when other great movies have done the same. You know what I recommend? Zoloft. Takes the edge off and makes you more optimistic and less of a cynical douchebag.
TIEStudios 6 months ago
OMG WTF IS EVERYONE'S PROBLEM WITH AVATAR!?!? AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS ITS BRILLIANT.
Jammed9000 7 months ago
love the small part at 3:08
razzmatazztwink 10 months ago
PrisonCipher is right although i like beowulf soundtrack
ADURADPROTESTOR 1 year ago
Comment removed
jacko2100 1 year ago
...I personally love this piece...I think it was Ray Winstone who played Beowulf in this (not too sure) but when he says his speech to the raider and when he's like "I am BEEEEEEEOOOOOOWULLLLFFFF!" Your just like..."Mate that was pretty f*cken awsome." Plus the guy that plays Wiglaf played Hamish in Braveheart, another big-bearded awsome dude xD I just lahv this film, and the score. Props <3
phillipzchillz 1 year ago 2
The animated remake of the movie was way diffent from the book is was sensationalized and sex crazed I dont know if thats good or bad
kpopianome 1 year ago
I personally think they should make this in live action. I loved the CGI version and I understand the complications of making it live action but... the story is simply amazing and thats what made this movie good. I do agree that the cgi created some awkward moments which is why i feel it wasnt appreciated as much as it should have been.
However with all the technology today its possible to create an amazing live action version mixed with cgi and practical effects.
Warlordx91 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I hated both Beowulf and the new Alice because both directors didn't understand where the original pieces came from. However both bathed the scenes in CGI and laced it with bad actors (Anthony Hopkins excluded) They were just new "shiny's" that had the audience baited.
I don't care how much a movie makes, it doesn't mean its good, it just means it baited enough people to see it. Avatar was blue fluff and its on top with sales, that doesn't mean its good, it means people are fish.
PrisonCipher 1 year ago
@PrisonCipher
I like being a fish... :<
xD j/k j/k
In all honesty, I didn't like Avatar either. Sure, the visual effects were something astounding, but the story was the typical 'romeo and juliet' plot.
However, I do believe that this film Beowulf had a distinct difference about it. I don't love it because its CGI (which does create some awkward moments), but I love the plot. Story is a big thing for me, as I am a writer myself, but personally, I love the change. This film seems more human.
TheBeowulf2007 1 year ago 20
@TheBeowulf2007 that sir, is where you are wrong, Avatar was a sifi recreation of the Native American story, not really anywhere close to a romeo and juliet.
lessthannormal01 1 year ago
@lessthannormal01
It may not be a 'Romeo Juliet', but it is deffinately a typical love story.
'Boy from one group. Girl from another. They fall in forbidden love. One has to choose their family, or their love. Generally, he chooses love. Big fight, and love wins over all.
And yet no matter how typical, I LOVE the plot. ^_^
TheBeowulf2007 1 year ago 9
@TheBeowulf2007 well the story isn't just typical... if you see "Pocahondas" you'll know what i mean... every thing is the same!
bad guys goes to an other land where they worship the earth and they have a material there that is needed by the bad guys, one of the bad guys learns the ways of the others and loves a girl from them.... he tries to keep the bad guys from attacking , he cant stop them... the good guysget backup from nearby villages war happens and so on... the SAME thing
NickTheWizard 1 year ago
@TheBeowulf2007 Love wins overall? That's what you got from the movie? Jesus I got a much more morbid and cynical take on the idea of 'love' and 'woman' than anything...
drunkdonutboy 9 months ago
@TheBeowulf2007 but you now that a "romeo and juliet" story need to have a ...... not so "good" and,i mean 2 guys died at the end :D
Zajin13 8 months ago
@Zajin13 Very true. Clearly the idea was typical, but to have the exact same story would be plagiarism hence, the reasonable amount of changes.
TheBeowulf2007 8 months ago
@TheBeowulf2007 Beowulf was a good movie. Avatar was a good movie, which was a lot like Pocahontas.
The reason why these were good movies, was because they were entertaining. The took the original story, made it as similar as they could, and took some artistic liberties with the storylines. Apart from that, they were both solid movies with great actors and emotional characters. The music in both is fantastic, and the effect the film creates is astounding. So please, just don't argue.
JackLively 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@TheBeowulf2007 but you now that a "romeo and juliet" story need to have a........ not so "good" end,i mean bouth guys died at the end ;P
Zajin13 8 months ago
@lessthannormal01 um try a recreation of pocahontes which is actually about the first settlers of jamestown, virginia.
flossyleech1 1 year ago
@lessthannormal01
It always infuriates me how people seem to think that Avatar is simply just a 'love' story. The narrative goes much deeper than that.
Jammed9000 7 months ago
@TheBeowulf2007
I agree, Beowulf's characters are deeply flawed with good intentions, just the way human characters should be. Also, Avatar isn't Romeo and Juilet per say, it's Pocahontas in space with blue kitties.
AyanaLinval 10 months ago 2
@PrisonCipher
Avatar is just a combination of blue monkeys, africa, pocahontas, romeo and juliet, and halo ( the videogame, if you notice, lots of weapons are similar to the videogame, the air ships looks like pelicans and hornets, the robots looks like cyclops, etc etc). That movie just stink, people who like it is because they awesome with visual effects and are obsessed with the awfully new love themes ( like twilight)
campitupitu 1 year ago
@PrisonCipher finally some movie sense
hhjk377 1 year ago
@PrisonCipher avatar was a great movie dont hate
MrYogurt454 1 year ago
@PrisonCipher
I agree, the new beowulf was terrible. The animation, the script, the acting. Only good thing was the music. And it didnt capture the magic of the poem.
I would prephere you to direct ur wrath at the new Narnia adaptation, then Alice in wonderland.
Tim burton wanted to make alice in stop-motion but stupid Disney told him he had to use CGI. The acting was really good with Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter and the new actress Mia Wasikowska, who I felt made a perfect alice.
300warrior300 1 year ago
@300warrior300 the book is just violence that is good. the movie is violence and sex i dont see a
proelem the wind in the willows and iam Mordred have magic but not beowulf . you are an ass
ShdwSephiroth 5 months ago
@PrisonCipher so what the fuck are you doing here?...
Bercilaknight 5 months ago
@Bercilaknight...Enjoying a song, and sharing an opinion that many agreed with. Don't like it, don't post and move on.
PrisonCipher 5 months ago
@PrisonCipher you are obviously blind...
Bercilaknight 5 months ago
@Bercilaknight And you obviously want to argue....I have no time for debating what is clearly opinion. Move on.
PrisonCipher 5 months ago
@PrisonCipher no, not really, I just hate people coming into a video just to say "oh I hate this blablabla" just dont say anything, if you dont like it then why the hell would you search the video, watch it and then comment about it saying that it sucks ?
Bercilaknight 5 months ago
@Bercilaknight ...so then move on. Playing "holier than thou" when all you really want to do is play tit for tat is trite and really just a waste of our time. To make it more clear for you, I didn't search the vid, it came off the side panel, secondly I was responding to several comments on here, its my opinion, I'm not going to stifle it just because someone might not like it. In the end the same could be said about you, "People who just don't move on and nag about someone else's opinion."
PrisonCipher 5 months ago
@PrisonCipher ok youre right, its a waste of time
Bercilaknight 5 months ago
@PrisonCipher beowulf never brought back the mom's head in the book so piss off dick
ShdwSephiroth 5 months ago
@ShdwSephiroth not exactly my point but nice job cherry picking.
PrisonCipher 5 months ago
@PrisonCipher beowulf was a good movie, yes it didnt have anything to do with the original but neither did TDK
SullyMediaProduction 4 months ago
I think the movie is great. Although it doen't tell exact the story of the poem, but it still describes the heroic characteristic of Beowulf clearly. Even the 2/3 god king Gilgamesh is not perfect in every aspect in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
lhoxung 1 year ago
I find it funny how a lot of people on here are complaining about the accuracy of the story when they likely had not even heard of it until the movie came out and then googled it on the internet, also the poem was an untrue fable which was likely told over and over with each person telling a different version over the past thousand plus years
krazykeren1 1 year ago
Comment removed
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
Comment removed
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@krazykeren1 Wrong, Beowulf as we know it today has not changed over the past thousand years. We infer it from the oldest copy of the epic in.... IF i remember correctly, the Nowell Codex, written around 1000 CE.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
I'd really like to know who these musicians are? My guess is some of the hottest studio guys out of LA. The low brass is just awesome.
LLJtbone 1 year ago
@TheBeowulf2007: I agree with you ... We learned about Beowulf in Liceum (High School) ,after we went through the antique literature (2nd year or so). And basicaly,you cant make Beowulf story the same...as i remember it wasnt "chronicled" on paper,right? Well,i liked the movie.It had the epic/middle-eave kind of feel. AGREE? if not ,you are NOT BEOWULF! :D (ok lame joke)
Lywnis 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The original story of Beowulf was kind of straight forward though, and its characters were cliches. Now, given it's age, you could say it STARTED some of those cliches lol, but still... they wanted to give it a little more depth is all.
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
The original story of Beowulf was kind of straight forward though, and its characters were cliches. Now, given it's age, you could say it STARTED some of those cliches lol, but still... they wanted to give it a little more depth is all.
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
Comment removed
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
it's not the deviations in the story that make me dislike it. it's how drastically they changed the characters. Beowulf is supposed to be a great hero, the epitome of man, flawless and noble - and they made him a frothing lying egomaniac.
the 13th warrior deviates quite a bit, too, but it's a much better retelling of Beowulf.
porcupotomus 1 year ago
@porcupotomus yeah i know what you mean. When something like that happens i can't watch it as a retelling. I just have to watch it as a movie, if that makes any sense.
Shaft118 1 year ago
@porcupotomus
It would have been a completely different movie had they stuck to the original story, and I think it would have made for a brilliant film. However, I think the reason Zemeckis chose Beowulf's character the way he did was to make it believable. Nobody is perfect. Not even Beowulf.
But maybe the actual reason was because if Beowulf was perfect, he wouldnot have slept with Grendel's mother, meaning no big Dragon to fight.
Zemeckis wanted that dragon! xD
TheBeowulf2007 1 year ago
@TheBeowulf2007
there was still a dragon in the original story. in the poem, grendel's mother is a wolf who lives at the bottom of a boiling lake. he fought her in an ancient hall under the lake built by giants where he found a huge sword that only he could wield because of its size. he rent her head from her shoulders, did the same to grendel's head, and brought them back as proof. then, later, a dragon came. it wasn't his son, just a particularly evil dragon that happened by.
porcupotomus 1 year ago
@porcupotomus
Now you see, that's not a film like story. It's a series of events. Beowulf fights him, then her, then him and that's it. No relation. Zemeckis wanted a plot that would link all the elements. To link the dragon to the story, he had to find a way of it being part of the original threat. A second son. However, would Hrothgar sleep with her twice? Why does it not strike WITH Grendel? Obviously it had to come after.
Basically, the story's elements had to join together.
TheBeowulf2007 1 year ago
@TheBeowulf2007
if it's the storytellers goal to merely link the events to make a movie out of them... and he ends up fundamentally changing the entire story and all of the characters... that storyteller flat sucks at his job. this movie has only the loose outline of the original story, but still it boasts the name "Beowulf" in order to market on the poem's popularity. this is why it pisses me off. it's pretending to be something it's not.
also, it's cheesy as f*ck. "BEEOOWUULLLLFFFFF!!!"
porcupotomus 1 year ago
@porcupotomus
Okay, so according to your above statement, Tim Burton sucks.
He took the story of Alice in Wonderland and put a story behind all the events, linking them together. Now, the new film has a storyline that is very different to the previous source. It may be cheesy, but people like it when the characters shout. 'THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!' xD
Anywayz, we shouldn't be arguing. Basically, I liked the film, you didn't. End of story. Let us agree to disagree. Deal?
TheBeowulf2007 1 year ago 16
@TheBeowulf2007 you relize that the second alice in wonderland had to be made from pieces of "Through the Looking Glas", yes? because disney would not let them do a remake. merry part - Angel
angelbabie23 1 year ago
@TheBeowulf2007
But... that Tim Burton film DID suck.
Chworktap 1 year ago
@porcupotomus
This suprises you? There's very few accurate versions of the story. The only accurate looking one I've seen so far is the 1998 animated one. Then there's this, the scyfy one, Beowulf and Grendel, and the absolute worst the 1999 Beowulf movie with Christopher Lambert. Seriosuly at least this follows the poem rather accfurately up until Grendel's mother. It's not the poem unfortunately, but I wouldn't call it worse than the 1999 one.
balrog13571 1 year ago
Yes I agree, the story is very different from the written Beowulf. But at least they captured the egocentric Beowulf.
Changeisgood12 1 year ago
@porcupotomus its not really a "deviation" per se, the movie's much more interesting story has that part with the Grendel's mother's slaying a tall tale told by Beowulf, and the dragon... the people just tell an epic of their hero as they believe, and so we have his epic in the Nowell Codex today. and the movie presents an interesting "what if..." with a secret, untold story behind Beowulf's life.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
@porcupotomus actually, it has been found that the popular translations and hence the story as most ppl know it, sees Grendel's mother as a wretched creature (Her "fierce grip" was translated to "horrible claws" etc), but scholars say, that's not true, in the original text there are clues that she is either a "lady" or a valkyrie or something of equal status, a "roaming-slaughter spirit", a warrior woman. The poet had no ill will to creatures Beowulf fought, but more like they were noble equals.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
@porcupotomus what deviations? there wasnt a whole lot of things that i managed to catch... can u tell me? The whole business with the horn and Grendel's mother... that's just "behind the scenes" of the Beowulf Epic. Because it was too late for the truth, the people hailed their hero, and told his tale just as we see it in the Nowell Codex today... or so that was what the movie is getting at.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
i really hate the movie, but that little repeating 5-noter at 1:00 still haunts me.
porcupotomus 1 year ago
@porcupotomus Even though this movie deviates from the main story of Beowulf, i enjoyed it. It was actually a good film despite that one thing.
Shaft118 1 year ago
@Shaft118 I don't think it deviates from the copy of the story in the Nowell Codex circa 1000 CE. The idea was that, there was a hidden backstory behind Beowulf's legend, and the tale told today was just what was told to the masses, and passed down ever since. Didn't Beowulf say "It's too late for the truth, isn't it?" after he killed his son? (I don't remember the quote verbatim but... you know).
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
amazing to cry
Elvirvelagic 1 year ago
mhmh
virus12315 1 year ago
Truly Epic.
bakeryboi66 2 years ago 8