The two party system provides firm support for the elite to implement their agenda from the top down. It doesn't matter which of the two parties you vote for because the same agenda will unfold regardless.
Interesting that the righties always talk about how bad the two party sytem is when they're not in charge. Your guys f' things up and then want to blam everyone else. Richardgwm is right. Repubs have always been bad for the economy. Someone prove me wrong. Go ahead.
And whats the story with Soros ? As far as I can tell it all comes from comparing the "with us or against us" slogan with Nazi propaganda.
Don't we want somebody that EXPERIENCED the Nazis and communists to speak his mind? As for the currency speculation causing the financial crisis - better blame Santa Clause - it would be harder to disprove.
@alakitim You would know all about what nazis are you romainian scumbag. Dont defilie America by speaking to us or about us you fitlhy fucking nazi shit.
These guys need a talking stick....and Bush/Greenspan/Bernanke are the root cause of this global collapse.....Bush was and is ultimately responsible for what happens on his watch. Thanks GW!
So, this entire monetary crisis is not because of BS financial instruments, insolvent banks, rampant speculation, corruption, deregulation or any of that.
It is the fault of...
... two "sneaky" Jews?
Did I get that right, former Congressman Hayworth? Bigot much?
But Clinton also did a lot of stupid shit I don't really agree with, like get us in the sovereignty-threatening WTO, which can impose sanctions on us if we don't comply with their asinine requests to eliminate a regulation that they call a "non-tariff trade barrier", which is such a vague term. The WTO bureaucrats are a bunch of assholes who think we need this huge global body to regulate world trade. We don't! Bilateral and multilateral trade among individual nations is preferable.
Alright. Look at the Federal Register, which lists Federal regulations. The number of pages went from 64,000 in 2001, to near 79,000 in 2007. It's even higher now.
Bush did not have a hands-off approach toward the economy. He didn't stand for balanced budgets. We haven't had a "free market" in a long, long time. I don't care how many soundbites you've heard. It's not true.
I even distinctly remember an ad for Bush's reelection in 04 that praised him for 'record homeownership.' Republicans aren't normally for artificially expanding homeownership through things like Freddie and Fannie.
Typical Republican!! Instead of taking responsibility for their they always want to blame someone else. i honestly don't get why their were more republican presidents than democrat when hisotry has shown that demorcats were better presidents. FDR JKF Lyndon Johnson Clinton etc
I wouldn't use those examples if I were you. Carter was a terribly incompetent head of state. LBJ's War on Poverty helped ignite a firestorm of welfare state policies for decades to come that have only brought shame and ruin on poor communities, not helped them rise up. Not to mention LBJ was the one who got us in the Vietnam War.
JFK didn't really do much. He wasn't as "progressive" as everyone thought, and he cut taxes quite a bit in his early years. Clinton, maybe.
I don't get why more libertarians and free traders don't come out against the WTO. Why the fuck do we need a centralized body to regulate ALL of the world's trade? It's so ridiculous. Nations can come up with their own terms and agreements on their own. Allow for that flexibility, not impose a standard on all WTO nations. The centralized WTO planning doesn't work, like much centralized gov't planning.
And FDR also is not a good example. His policies kept the depression alive.
Republicans and Democrats both suck. The answer is they both screwed it up. They both destroyed the economy. They both have no answers to solve the problem that they created. This dumb two party system is a joke.
It is an empirical fact that budget deficits increase under Republican Presidents and decrease under Democratic Presidents. This is a very robust finding that remains true for all time periods since the modern parties were formed: pre-war, post-war, pre-1970, post-1970. The finding remains true even when controlling for war, party holding Congress, inflation, etc.
It is an empirical fact that the stock market performs better under Democratic Presidents than Republican Presidents. Again, this is a robust finding that remains true for all time periods and when controlling for many different explanatory variables.
And, the big one. The GDP grows faster under Democratic Presidents than Republican Presidents. Again, this is a robust empirical finding that remains true for all time periods and controls. The simple fact is that Democratic Presidents are much better for the American economy than are Republican Presidents.
Empirical fact from whom, if i may ask? Do you have a link or study you can point to that proves this? How many presidents are you referring to? The only one I can think of that's a Democrat would be Clinton. Carter certainly didn't do very well. Didn't we have a recession for some part of LBJ's rule? And don't get me started on FDR. So who else is there? Truman? Wilson? That's about it: Truman, Wilson, and Clinton, THREE Democratic presidents in all the 20th Century.
While I haven't published these results, (this is more of a fun leisure-time analysis), you can do the analysis yourself from readily available data. I know that Jeremy Seigel often does popular print articles on the Democratic stock market out-performance. This is a well-known result. Do a google and you will find lots of info on it. As I have said, these results are for ALL Presidents since the modern parties were formed. Look at any time period, and the results are the same.
I realize you will not look at any of this empirical evidence, and will certainly not allow reality to change your ideology, but you should know that the rest of us in the real world actually do look at the real true results, and know the Democrats are much better for the economy.
So government interventionism had nothing to do with the economic crisis? Was the Fed not the root cause, an institution based on liberal ideology - that being the avoidance of any pain whatsoever.
The wind blows both ways. We'd be better off as a nation if we didn't get into these team-rooting matches. Rather had we avknowledged the historical fact of the dangers of massive government interventionsim instead of trusting it lock stock and barrel, we might not be here.
He forgot to add Al Greenspan - missing blatant signs of bubbles and mishandling the situation as head of Fed. Reserve. Read "Greenspan's Bubbles" by Bill Fleckenstein.
im not going to comment on the topic, but that dig towards the end about mathews running against spector was interesting at the end. Honestly if mathews has any ambitions of doing so I would get off the airwaves asap so he doesnt look like a mouthpiece, because; as you can see, thats how the republicans are going to frame his campaign if he ends up pulling the trigger. Ha...the generic republican debate method is so underhanded ;-)
The Federal Reserve caused the 700 billion dollar bailout and economic crash.
sonatadude 2 years ago
The two party system provides firm support for the elite to implement their agenda from the top down. It doesn't matter which of the two parties you vote for because the same agenda will unfold regardless.
sonatadude 2 years ago
@sonatadude
Interesting that the righties always talk about how bad the two party sytem is when they're not in charge. Your guys f' things up and then want to blam everyone else. Richardgwm is right. Repubs have always been bad for the economy. Someone prove me wrong. Go ahead.
thomasay637 1 year ago
The Republicans are turning into the same people that claimed Bush flew planes into our buildings.
They are out of their minds.
boohowdy 2 years ago
Chris Matthews is always an ass, always a fool and always WRONG!
dantheleo 3 years ago
Lolololol that guy is a fag.
XxDITONExX 3 years ago
"Former Representative", Thank god
kcp12304 3 years ago
Bread line starts here
daizee106 3 years ago
chris matthews ---- stoooooge
voxsingularis 3 years ago
The utter nonsense that comes out of the Republican Party is unbelievable.
(Some)Truth/Common Sense/Decency arent worth anything anymore?
And whats the story with Soros ? As far as I can tell it all comes from comparing the "with us or against us" slogan with Nazi propaganda.
Don't we want somebody that EXPERIENCED the Nazis and communists to speak his mind? As for the currency speculation causing the financial crisis - better blame Santa Clause - it would be harder to disprove.
alakitim 3 years ago
@alakitim You would know all about what nazis are you romainian scumbag. Dont defilie America by speaking to us or about us you fitlhy fucking nazi shit.
ThunderAppeal 1 year ago
NeoCons from FOX had said if Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest & reduction in capital gains tax were passed the DOW would soar.
Well, they did pass...and under Clinton the DOW went up 7,000 pts, under Bush it fell 2,000 pts.
Nuf said!
DillonX 3 years ago
These guys need a talking stick....and Bush/Greenspan/Bernanke are the root cause of this global collapse.....Bush was and is ultimately responsible for what happens on his watch. Thanks GW!
unkiemonk 3 years ago
thats our J.D. :)
arizonacardinals2007 3 years ago
"George Soros? What are you talking about?"
I would have added to that "YOU FUCKING RETARD!"
Sounds just like Hannity- no wonder he is a FORMER Congressman!
twochordcool 3 years ago 2
Hayworth is the Kielbasa King, Ala Kielbasa Queen.
Tmetrvlr 3 years ago
So, this entire monetary crisis is not because of BS financial instruments, insolvent banks, rampant speculation, corruption, deregulation or any of that.
It is the fault of...
... two "sneaky" Jews?
Did I get that right, former Congressman Hayworth? Bigot much?
Republican Motto:
Satire Ain't Got Nothing On Us
jvillanomo 3 years ago
JD Hayworth makes up his own facts... like a snake oil salesmen selling elixir of life to the ignorant masses. Somebody is buying that shyt.
NeilSagan 3 years ago
This is a controlled crisis. We haven't even begun to feel what's in the very near future for us.
exacerbatedtaboo 3 years ago 3
Are all politicians from Arizona clueless or something? Must be the heat.
burntonion05 3 years ago 2
But Clinton also did a lot of stupid shit I don't really agree with, like get us in the sovereignty-threatening WTO, which can impose sanctions on us if we don't comply with their asinine requests to eliminate a regulation that they call a "non-tariff trade barrier", which is such a vague term. The WTO bureaucrats are a bunch of assholes who think we need this huge global body to regulate world trade. We don't! Bilateral and multilateral trade among individual nations is preferable.
whoo689 3 years ago
Republicans are traitors
marniespeaks 3 years ago
You want an argument backed with facts?
Alright. Look at the Federal Register, which lists Federal regulations. The number of pages went from 64,000 in 2001, to near 79,000 in 2007. It's even higher now.
Bush did not have a hands-off approach toward the economy. He didn't stand for balanced budgets. We haven't had a "free market" in a long, long time. I don't care how many soundbites you've heard. It's not true.
MooseOfReason 3 years ago 2
I even distinctly remember an ad for Bush's reelection in 04 that praised him for 'record homeownership.' Republicans aren't normally for artificially expanding homeownership through things like Freddie and Fannie.
whoo689 3 years ago
I found it:
watch?v=34pQsHwN9iI
Man, listen to the beginning of the narration:
"After recession, 9/11, and war..."
Maybe he thought those were over?
There's another ad where Bush talks about "encouraging people to own their own home":
watch?v=8q7gF0ZgRcE
MooseOfReason 3 years ago
Typical Republican!! Instead of taking responsibility for their they always want to blame someone else. i honestly don't get why their were more republican presidents than democrat when hisotry has shown that demorcats were better presidents. FDR JKF Lyndon Johnson Clinton etc
alwan11 3 years ago
I wouldn't use those examples if I were you. Carter was a terribly incompetent head of state. LBJ's War on Poverty helped ignite a firestorm of welfare state policies for decades to come that have only brought shame and ruin on poor communities, not helped them rise up. Not to mention LBJ was the one who got us in the Vietnam War.
JFK didn't really do much. He wasn't as "progressive" as everyone thought, and he cut taxes quite a bit in his early years. Clinton, maybe.
whoo689 3 years ago
I don't get why more libertarians and free traders don't come out against the WTO. Why the fuck do we need a centralized body to regulate ALL of the world's trade? It's so ridiculous. Nations can come up with their own terms and agreements on their own. Allow for that flexibility, not impose a standard on all WTO nations. The centralized WTO planning doesn't work, like much centralized gov't planning.
And FDR also is not a good example. His policies kept the depression alive.
whoo689 3 years ago
And that would be why he is a FORMER representative...
idiot...
calibush 3 years ago
Republicans lie, all the time. Obviously all politicians lie, but only the Republicans lie so obviously that only stupid people believe them.
CarryANation 3 years ago
Republicans and Democrats both suck. The answer is they both screwed it up. They both destroyed the economy. They both have no answers to solve the problem that they created. This dumb two party system is a joke.
Deoptics8 3 years ago
Vote Libertarian ;) Give power back to the people, not expand the size and power of gov't.
whoo689 3 years ago
1 trillion dollar Defense Budget. More than the entire world COMBINED!
PersonalJesus348 3 years ago 4
Can't change the empirical facts. Republicans are bad for the economy. The last 150 years of economic history prove that fact.
Richardgwm 3 years ago 5
Last 150 years?? Lol! wtf are you talking about?
whoo689 3 years ago
It is an empirical fact that budget deficits increase under Republican Presidents and decrease under Democratic Presidents. This is a very robust finding that remains true for all time periods since the modern parties were formed: pre-war, post-war, pre-1970, post-1970. The finding remains true even when controlling for war, party holding Congress, inflation, etc.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
It is an empirical fact that the stock market performs better under Democratic Presidents than Republican Presidents. Again, this is a robust finding that remains true for all time periods and when controlling for many different explanatory variables.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
And, the big one. The GDP grows faster under Democratic Presidents than Republican Presidents. Again, this is a robust empirical finding that remains true for all time periods and controls. The simple fact is that Democratic Presidents are much better for the American economy than are Republican Presidents.
This is an objective measurable FACT.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
Empirical fact from whom, if i may ask? Do you have a link or study you can point to that proves this? How many presidents are you referring to? The only one I can think of that's a Democrat would be Clinton. Carter certainly didn't do very well. Didn't we have a recession for some part of LBJ's rule? And don't get me started on FDR. So who else is there? Truman? Wilson? That's about it: Truman, Wilson, and Clinton, THREE Democratic presidents in all the 20th Century.
whoo689 3 years ago 2
While I haven't published these results, (this is more of a fun leisure-time analysis), you can do the analysis yourself from readily available data. I know that Jeremy Seigel often does popular print articles on the Democratic stock market out-performance. This is a well-known result. Do a google and you will find lots of info on it. As I have said, these results are for ALL Presidents since the modern parties were formed. Look at any time period, and the results are the same.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
Here's a good article for you:
au (dot) pfinance (dot) yahoo (dot) com/b/futureinvest/58/which-party-is-better-for-stocks
Richardgwm 3 years ago
Here's another good one. There is lot of empirical data out there. You should learn to do your own research.
rodrik (dot) typepad (dot) com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2008/03/american-politi.html
Richardgwm 3 years ago
This one is not as academically sound, but gives you a good idea of what the data looks like:
martinmanley (dot) typepad (dot) com/jam_side_down/2008/09/follow-the-mone.html
I realize you will not look at any of this empirical evidence, and will certainly not allow reality to change your ideology, but you should know that the rest of us in the real world actually do look at the real true results, and know the Democrats are much better for the economy.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
So government interventionism had nothing to do with the economic crisis? Was the Fed not the root cause, an institution based on liberal ideology - that being the avoidance of any pain whatsoever.
The wind blows both ways. We'd be better off as a nation if we didn't get into these team-rooting matches. Rather had we avknowledged the historical fact of the dangers of massive government interventionsim instead of trusting it lock stock and barrel, we might not be here.
snowtrot 3 years ago
Beady little eyes, a bull head and a large, flapping mouth.
SNL character for sure.
"Soro's controls the world's money supply"... this guy is straight from AM Reich-wingrant radio.
davemartin7777 3 years ago 4
He forgot to add Al Greenspan - missing blatant signs of bubbles and mishandling the situation as head of Fed. Reserve. Read "Greenspan's Bubbles" by Bill Fleckenstein.
vmeister11 3 years ago
WTF? He looks like a Saturday Night Live character.
Live from New York, It's SATURDAY NIGHT! Stuuupid Rethuglican yob.
Hello stupid Rethuglican! We hates it forever!!!
fastfashn 3 years ago 2
Seriously, this is what the GOP have been reduced to? No wonder they will be out of power for a decade or more.
When all else fails, mention Soros, the wingnuts' favorite boogeyman.
Mixophyrgian 3 years ago 3
Republicans suck! They are in la la land!
kimintexas 3 years ago
I think it's the fault of those Liberal scientists who tried to make friends with the alien in the original "Thing".
facelesshorseman 3 years ago
Oy! Why do some people think that tax cuts are the universal elixer? They will fix some stuff, but not most of it.
Davenergy 3 years ago
im not going to comment on the topic, but that dig towards the end about mathews running against spector was interesting at the end. Honestly if mathews has any ambitions of doing so I would get off the airwaves asap so he doesnt look like a mouthpiece, because; as you can see, thats how the republicans are going to frame his campaign if he ends up pulling the trigger. Ha...the generic republican debate method is so underhanded ;-)
bender183 3 years ago
blah blah blah. if your fooled by old bush politics then f you!
why dont republicans take responsibility for helping bush murder millions and destroying america? fuk you republicans pigs!
kargenlewis 3 years ago 4
beady little eyes, large sloping forehead.. yup republican.
eric3141k 3 years ago 4
yup!!!!
gasttheplast 3 years ago
ineresting obsevation, eric3141k
they all look as having a testosterone deficiency syndrome of some sort.
Cluelessly yapping away like my drunk aunt
valgehiir 3 years ago
wat????? this guy is an idiot!
tetropods 3 years ago 2
zoo keeper.
swankrecords 3 years ago
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AmpdPranks 3 years ago
wow - idiot.
phillydawg 3 years ago 3