Kucinich and Paul can't change things alone.

[evansville70]

Hate to disappoint you but the troops will not come home anytime soon.

[blueshuby]

IRAN is a threat because they are selling their oil in anything BUT U.S. Dollars... Just like Saddam Hussein got off the USD standard in Iraq and we all know what happened to him... Sad but true we are the bullies of the world.

[enomarekim]

Why do you say Israel is one of our allies? They are a parasite. They only take money from taxpayers, and create more violence in the region, which only causes more anti American feelings. What do you personally owe Israel. I personally don't care about Israel, and could care less if they were wiped off the map. yet this is unrealistic, because Iran has no air force, no navy, and has only a small revolutionary guard. Also, our intelligence reports say they stopped their nuclear weapons program.

[TomWyn123]

Ehhh, its people like you that make me think we should be forced to take a test before we're allowed to vote. You're even worse then peace boy here.

[sanchosteve]

cowardly response, tom. afraid to respond to the substance of eno's message?

[TomWyn123]

I don't respond to stupid comments that make no sense. Not worth the time to write a well thought out response since emo obviously didn't show me the same courtesy I have a nose for bull shit.

[KIDiotequeA]

Im tempted to agree with that statement. A basic understanding and even a brief overview of the history of American intervention, foreign policy, as well as domestic policy("free trade agreements like NAFTA, The abuse of our civil liberties, and freedom of speech, monetary policy, Social security etc..) would definitely keep those such as yourself, who has the energy to have an opinion based on sheer ignorance; but obviously doesnt have the time to do the research.

[KIDiotequeA]

..From voting against ones best interest. If you arent aware, the war on terror is not only limiting our freedoms, but also crippling the US dollar, our economy, and is the chief cause of the record inflation we see taking place. We are spending one trillion dollars a year on this foreign policy. We dont have the money, so we lower the interest rates, and flood the market with fiat currency.

[TomWyn123]

I've answered all your questions to the best of my ability; now you show me the causal link between THE WAR ON "TERROR" and the crippling of the U.S. dollar or economy. I'm talking about real data and reports not just smoke and mirrors. We're in two wars right now I admit that the latter is costly and not worth it, but you're condemning the former.

[KIDiotequeA]

Its basic economics and the realities of a fiat currency. Spend money that doesnt exist, and you must borrow from other nations, rack up record trade deficits, and print money out of no where. The record cost of oil is a perfect example of this inflation, and the devaluing of our dollar. Price oil in gold, and it has remained relatively stable the last 5 year. It reflects the poor health/purchasing power of the dollar.

[TomWyn123]

I'm not satisfied with your answer on the economic question, but in all honesty I'm not the most economically savvy person so I'll let that slide. My point was that I'm not sure the war on terror has been as detrimental to the economy as the war on Iraq is. You linked the war on terror as being the "chief cause" to our economic trouble.

[TomWyn123]

My opinion isn't based on ignorance. The opinion I expressed was "Iran is a threat" not that we should go to war with them, not that we should be hostile to them in any way. When my president tells me that someone is a threat to this country I believe him; Ignorance? Maybe, but I would rather be the ignorant pessimist then the dead optimist.

[KIDiotequeA]

Name the last time the government of Iran preemptively attacked one of its neighbors, or the US. Do you recall what happened in 1953? We led a coup to dispose of the democratically elected leader of Iran, and installed the Shah.

When your president told you Iraq was a threat, you believed him to eh? We propped Saddam up in the first place, armed him, then came in to dispose him. All the while greatly strengthening Irans position. Take a look at our foreign policy..

[KIDiotequeA]

We create the problems we later have to go in and "Fix". Presently we are supporting a dictator in Pakistan. We take no action to help the Burmese in Myanmar who long for freedmom and democracy. Our intervention in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia have a lot to do with why we are in the middle east in the first place. 15 of the 19 highjackers that helped carry out 9/11, were Saudi, our allies. Their sited motive? American intervention and the refusal to allow them to guard their own oil fields.

[KIDiotequeA]

Im not saying we should allow our enemies to dictate our actions. But look at our track record. For all our intervention we have created, and continue to create, and atmosphere in the middle east that harbors, and produces terrorism/extremeists. All the while, our defenses have never been spread so thin that we are unable to deal with a natural disaster let alone a terrorist attack. We are increasing Anti American sentiment, whilst decreasing our ability to deal with the blow back.

[KIDiotequeA]

Saying that Iran poses a threat because private citizens alledgedly have supported terrorism, while refusing to acknowledge that our allies, Saudi Arabia's role in Iraq, and our support there in (whether direct or indirect) is foolish. Non intervention is the only policy that makes any sense.

[TomWyn123]

It's like you don't even read what I'm writing. How can I argue with someone who doesn't take the time to read a fucking paragraph properly? I didn't say that Iran poses a threat because citizens support terrorism in Iraq. I said they pose a threat because they support and house terrorists. It's the only foreign policy that makes sense? I suppose you would have sat back while Rwanda and Darfur were going through their genocides; sure does make sense.

[enomarekim]

Actually, yes. Besides the fact that I don't really give a fuck about Rwanda and Darfur, the constitution gives us no authority to intervene in foreign nations. It would also be a monumental waste of tax dollars, such as the occupation of Iraq. Although I do agree that the war on terror is not wrong, the war to overthrow Sadam was.

[KIDiotequeA]

The Iranian government does not support and house terrorists..If you have anything that would prove otherwise, its information the world at large does not have. The case can be made that private individuals, sympathetic to death hundreds of thousands Iraqis, and the displacement of millions fund or possibly even engage in some acts of terrorism and violence in Iraq. But that is not the same thing as being sanctioned by the government. This is the reason I bring up Saudi Arabia.

[TomWyn123]

I gave you the name of three terrorist organizations that Iran aides which I got from a report given out by the Council on Foreign Relations. You're comments so far are unsupported loads of garbage; when in all my answers I actually give you facts, and since now you obviously can't look it up for yourself I'll cite for you too.

[KIDiotequeA]

The groups you named have not been tied to Iran with any facts. Only allegations. The website you got the information off of, is the CFR's site. The CFR is the think tank that has controlled our foreign policy for the last 60 years. They are the same people who helped get us into Iraq. Paul, Kucinich, and Gravel were the only candidates running for President this year who werent members.

[TomWyn123]

You say that like it's a good thing. First of all the CFR is a bipartisan organization that holds meetings and posts articles on foreign policy issues. The organization consists of politicians and world leaders, so I think I'll hold its credibility over yours. Also, Kucinich specializes in domestic policy issues, and really has no place talking on foreign policy so I'm not surprised.

[ferrozm]

Iran is not a threat to the US. Who cares if they support Hezbolla or Hamas that is Israel's problem not ours.

[TomWyn123]

Oh, and by the way you talk about how our war with terror has cost us so many of our civil liberties while you hold Ron Paul in such high regard. Ron Paul is pro Life. Hypocritical is it not?

[enomarekim]

Ron Paul is personally Pro life, (because of his belief in personal responsibility), but he does not believe that the federal government has the right to tell an individual how to live their life. As such, he will veto any federal law banning abortion, and will allow the states to exercise their right to make their own laws. Most likley, if you are in a blue state abortion would be legal, and if you are in a red state, it would be illegal.

[KIDiotequeA]

Abortion should be a states issue. Ive posted many videos on this and other topics. Setting the precedent for dealing with the legality of abortion at the Federal level, sets the stage for banning it at the Federal level.

[TomWyn123]

What are you talking about? Do you even know? What the hell does our preemptive foreign policy have anything to do with acknowledging that Iran is a threat, and not having peace talks with them. This is all I said. You list a bunch of stupid little tangent facts like you're giving me a lesson on something. What's even sadder is you're just reciting something you heard Ron Paul say in the republican primary debates. I'm not arguing with you on Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi the name is Iran stay on topic.

[KIDiotequeA]

You would like to view Americas foreign policy in a vacuum. Unfortunately thats not the way the real world works. I have done my researched these topics myself. You quite clearly have not. Only someone woefully ignorant to the politics and religion of the middle east would suggest Iran funded and armed Sunni insurgents(something our government is presently doin. You brought up interfering in genocide. Name the last time we stopped a genocide in time. Why do we take no action in Myanmar?

[KIDiotequeA]

Given the track record, it is foolish to think our good intentions of nation building and spreading democracy will pan out. Any one who has even a basic familiarity with our foreign policy over the last 50 years will come to the same conclusion.

[TomWyn123]

If you think stopping genocide is "nation building" you don't know what that means either. I have to assume this is what you mean; since the only point against your nonintervention policy belief I had was that you wouldn't help out other countries in time of genocide.

[KIDiotequeA]

How long did it take us to interfere with the genocides you mentioned???

[TomWyn123]

If I were viewing our foreign policy in a vacuum there would be nothing there that's why they call it a vacuum. And if I was woefully ignorant I would have stood by my comment and not said "you got me on that I made a mistake" after you corrected me on the Iran funding Sunni suggestion. I guess like bush the meaning of words aint all that important to ya. We backed the U.N. intervention in Kosovo, and we don't take action in Myanmar because they won't let us.

[KIDiotequeA]

I vacuum does not mean there is nothing in it, but merely no atmosphere. Which is what I charged you with. A myopic view of world events helps no one. You condemn Iran, and do not criticize Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, Israel, or the US. You accuse Iran of things they are not guilty of, when our own allies are... And then say it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. If Russia and China were never so much of a threat that we stopped talking to them, I fail to see how Iran is.

[TomWyn123]

I do not have a myopic view on world events and foreign policy. I do have concern for Afghanistan and Pakistan in particular, but that has nothing to do with acknowledging Iran a threat. I have problems with these countries just because I stay on topic is not a basis to accuse me of being myopic.

[TomWyn123]

I can't name you any time where that has happened, but look Iran is a weak country they need to import their refined oil they don't have the biggest army in the world. Do you honestly think that if they had the ability and resources to have a preemptive war they wouldn't? I never defended the war on Iraq in fact I said it was costly and not worth it in a earlier comment, but at the time yes I thought they had weapons that's what they told us.

[KIDiotequeA]

You stated that if the President told you something was a threat, you would believe him, even though he has alreadly misled you into a war that you now believed should never have been waged. What did Bush famously say? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...dont fool me again. I believe very strongly in diplomacy, but sanctions have proven not to work, merely escalate tensions.

[TomWyn123]

Again, all I'm saying is that you acknowledge Iran is a threat. I also said that we shouldn't start peace talks with them, but I'll give up that dream if you just admit you were wrong.

[KIDiotequeA]

Iran in no way poses us a threat. If you believe them a threat, but do not advocate peace talks, what is your suguestion?  Constant preemptive war against admittedly weak countries?

[utubehayter]

Iran is a threat? If it is - so is North Korea, China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Japan, Sudan, Israel, Vietnam, Germany, France, UK and many many other countries. You see all these countries possess one or the other sort of terrorists sympathizers. All of them have access to weapons of mass destruction, did at some point in time or will at some time in future. So the US should never talk about peace with any of these countries. Maybe even launch attacks against all of them?

[TomWyn123]

I would say North Korea is a threat, and for the majority of the other countries you listed they don't treat their citizens like crap. Iran is a police state with a fascist ruler who houses and supports terrorist organizations that kill and kidnap our allies. Maybe threat is too strong of a word for you, but think of it this way it's a self destructive government next door from our allies whose leader has said he would like to wipe Israel off the map... that is called a threat.

[utubehayter]

majority of other countries? Which have you visited? China does not treat people like crap? How about Pakistan? OR Sudan? How about Israel? Iran is a theocratic state with clergy holding the main power.

As for our "allies" - are you talking about Israel? The same one that has unregisterd spies spying on the US? Hey, if they want to wipe Israel off the map, that is Israel's problem, not that of the US. For all I care, Israel and Iran can go up each other's butt - 2 less enemies for the US.

[utubehayter]

So Israel and Iran will fight and kill each other - why should the US care? Both are enemies to the US. There are more Israeli spies in the US getting caught every now and then than Iranian spies. I don't care if they turn each other into graveyards, do it on their own and with their own blood. Both put together are not worth a single American life or dollar.

[BuvingtonSteel]

Hey utubehayter how can you say that an Israeli's life or an Iranian's life is worth less than an American's life or dollar? Oh and we can debate about it as much as we want to but if Iran attacks Israel and a war is started the US IS GOING TO GET INVOLVED mainly because Israel IS AN ALLY.

[utubehayter]

Israel is an enemy not an ally. It spies on the US, manipulates the US politics and media to its benefit and not to the benefit of the US. Many more Israeli spies are caught than Iranian spies in the US. Why are they spying on US if they are allies? Why are they stealing secrets from the US? That is enough actions of war to make sure that Israel is an ENEMY.

[BuvingtonSteel]

I agree with you Tom, keep fighting the good fight.

[utubehayter]

Cite one good thing Israel has done for the US. Not ONE good thing can come out of supporting Israel.

[TomWyn123]

To your Iran suggestion that these politicians are the only people saying we don't need to go to war with Iran. This is flat out wrong. we don't say we want to go to war with Iran; Iran says they want to eradicate one of our allies of the map who wants war? "they pose us absolutely no threat" come on... you're ridicules. I'll concede they aren't the greatest threat to our national security but that is just plain silly what u said.

[sanchosteve]

tom, the president of iran said this, "The imam said that the regime occupying jerusalem must be erased from the page of time." the president mahmoud ahmadi nejad merely quoted khomeini during a speech. you have twisted the translation of a phrase taken out of context. president mahmoud ahmadi nejad has written numerous diplomatic letters of peace to the US. we have ignored his pleas for diplomacy. i'm going to write to the iranian gov for copies of those letters. i think we're ready for peace

[TomWyn123]

Ok let's see if you think I've twisted this little fact before you go holding hands with your big piece friend. In Iran if you're gay you face possible execution or imprisonment. Iran is a police state. Why would you make peace with that? And of coarse hes been trying to make peace with us WE JUST INVADED THEIR NEIGHBOR. But the fact is we can't afford to go to war with Iran and they know that. However, to say that they pose no threat or that we should start peace talks with this fascist pig HA.

[sanchosteve]

you can believe the war propaganda, or the peace propaganda. if you believe the war propaganda, you're voting for the deaths of other people.. i say if you want to vote for death, you need to sign up for the military, otherwise you're a chicken hawk. also... they pose no threat to the US. you don't honestly think they have plans of landing on the east coast and invading new york... or invading oregon on the west coast? yet we'll invade them and kill millions... death to the defenseless

[TomWyn123]

First of all, I gave you specific examples of why I thought we shouldn't start peace talks with Iran, and all you do is ramble on some unintelligible rant about war propaganda. Secondly, a country doesn't have to invade us or directly attack us to be a threat even a kid should know that. Iran, in case you weren't aware, is one of many that are on the list of countries that fund terrorist organizations. Does war on terror ring a bell? If you fund our enemies you are a threat.

[sanchosteve]

make a specific allegation, no vague "they fund terror" bullshit. Who do they fund? evidence? if you don't have evidence then you have no valid arguments. the war on terror is bullshit. it's the war to see how many of our civil liberties the government can take away. The Bushes and Bin Ladens have been business partners for almost a hundred years. there is no war on terror. it should be called 'the campaign to strip the US of sovereignty'

[TomWyn123]

They funded Suni insurgents in Iraq with weaponry and training. I don't know why you can't look that up for yourself though I'm not your fucking encyclopedia. If you don't know this shit then you shouldn't be writing about it. As for the rest of your stupid little rant I have no idea what the war on terror has anything to do with this country being a sovereign nation, but my guess is you don't know what that word means.

[sanchosteve]

my stupid little rant? lol i love how you warmongers always get so personal and aggressive. there are 90,000 iraqi civilians dead. i think history will look back on our conflicts with the middle east and call genocide. i believe that saying they fund 'terror' ignores the actual factual issues of what's going on. the correct thing to say is 'they fund a cause'. have you listened to the muslims side of the story? do you know about the coup in 1953? they deserve nuclear energy in my opinion.

[KIDiotequeA]

Sorry...the Shia Iran funded Sunni insurgents...get your facts straight. Secondly, name one instance where the government of Iran has funded any terrorism. Thirdly, the US is presently, arming, funding, and backing the same Sunni insurgents you just accused Iran of backing. Fourthly, the majority of the foreign fighters in Iraq are Saudi. Saudi Arabia are our allies, we just had two seperate 20 billion dollar arms deals with them in the last 12 months. We are contributing the mess.

[KIDiotequeA]

They are will with in their rights under present treaties to persue nuclear energy. Name the last time the government of Iran preemptively attacked one of their neighbors. Their track record is a little better than ours. If you are worried about Israel, you should know they are more than capable of defending themselves. They have one of the best airforces in the world, arguably the best intelligence agency, and more than enough undeclared nuclear weapons to wipe Iran off the map.

[TomWyn123]

The danger isn't that they will use nuclear technology on their enemies the danger is that they will sell information and nuclear technology to one of the many terrorist organizations they are linked to. Iran is decades away from being able to get a nuclear device going. As I said they aren't the greatest threat to our country, but to say that they pose us no threat is ignorant.

[TomWyn123]

Alright, after further review; you got me on that I made a mistake. I confused Iran supporting terrorist organizations in the south of Iraq with the report I read that Saudi was giving millions of dollars to Sunni forces. Iran has funded and housed terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. There are also reports that Iran supports terrorist organizations in Iraq and Afghanistan as I said, but of course they deny that.

[sanchosteve]

look up the history of israel. we kicked palestinians out of their country, tom. there are 4.25 million palestinian refugees living in squalid camps. we ejected them from their homes and their businesses in 1948. of course they're pissed. i hope they get their land back. if we really cared about israel having a country we should have given them some of our land in the US. we had no right to bully palestine the way we did. i say if israel wants to take over a country they do it by themselves.

[FORCEDANARCHY]

I respect them both equally, I wish they were running together for president.

[KARStarla]

Me too Forcedanarchy. I tried to do my part by contacting our congressmen about issues regarding housebills but it sure does seem like they dont care. Sometimes I feel even bothering to call really doesnt matter anymore. I feel the same with voting, especially on a machine thats more then likely rigged. The thing is, I dont know what I can REALLY do to make a difference.

Other then making Ron Paul King by force (lol) and flying off to another land just like our founders did.

I'm in lol

[lappyo]

Thanks for posting this.

Check out MY documentary clip here on YouTube:

search

"Confessions of a Liberal Actor-Vist"

[Beatleha]

Thank you for responding to my broadcast with this well thought out and well spoken broadcast... It's refreshing to see young men like you expressing yourself in such a clear voice & peaceful spirit...

[Jurassica]

Wow.

This is great.

I really appreciate that you are acknowledging both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.

I am a huge Kucinich supporter and think he doesn't get the credit he deserves. As far as Ron Paul, though i don't agree with some of his stances on some issues i do think it is crucial that Republicans hear what he has to say.

I really respect what you are saying here.

Keep up the good work.

[KIDiotequeA]

Thanks much man.

Im supporting Paul, but I have nothing but respect for Kucinich. Ive posted a few videos suggesting a how the different campaigns could be reconciled for a bipartisan ticket.

[obliviouspet]

Why are we still trying to get kucinich /RP voted? Isn't it a little too late? Just look at the most recent polls... Not that it matters, it's all been predetermined, no doubt about it.

[metathias]

I dont think thats the point. Hes just saying support those who DO speak up about the issues in government however the difference on the leanings(extremists withholding).

[FistsoFuckinFreedom]

Ron Paul and Kucinich are men of their word and have integrity but making "change" to the system is impossible. The elite have vice grips on this illegitimate system. As long as there is a system it will be corrupted.

[metathias]

A stand point that thats no hope on the possibility of reform only plays into the hands of the in power. Now i might agree we need a more proactive approach if were going to make headway.

[FistsoFuckinFreedom]

I think the effort in canvassing could be better spent in activism and civil disobedience rather than trying to get a certain candidate in office. You can't vote in less government.

[metathias]

Your probably right. Until people see other people engaging in civil disobedience likely we wont see any change.

"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson quote

[boots920]

Good ideas, but until you get the voter fraud thing under control? There needs to be a strategy of getting the money system stable. Without sound money, people will not be stable, and will not care who gets elected. Inflation is already taking out the poor.

[lookingforananswer]

Sometimes I think the only way things can change is not through political channels, but through a revolution. By that I mean violent overthrow of the status quo. Do not misunderstand me, I do not want this, but the way our country is presently controlled, the corporations have pretty much an air-tight lock on the government - just look at the last two presidential elections. They put the man they wanted in office, even though the voters chose the other candidate...

[lookingforananswer]

I would like to see a change in our government, but the people who have to speak up and move forward to make the change happen are too preoccupied with the acquisition of material things to be bothered with their own freedom. Besides, it takes a lot of work to make change, and it seems that people have given up hard work in exchange for mindless distractions. They don't want to be bothered with taking the time to vote, let alone getting involved in their communities, or government...

[TheCZMan]

You might not be in the right boat. Many of the Ron Paul supporters equate freedom with property. So your comment about acquiring property before concern over freedom is inappropriate.

On hard word: what is the corner issue of the Ron Paul's supporters, especially the younger? They have to face worldwide competition, parents live longer (they will inherit later)... stuff like that.

Result: it will take them more work to achieve what their parents did.

[TheCZMan]

Their standard of life are degraded. That is one of the reasons many of them are interested in absolute property rights, protecting them from the competition going on to seize property. They will somehow inherit the status of their parents, a status they are not sure of achieving through work.

[lookingforananswer]

I'm not sure, but I think you may have misunderstood what I meant. Or I may be misunderstanding you. Do you mean property, like real estate? I believe owning property in that sense is vital. I was referring to consumerism - newer, shinier ipods, cars, cell phones, shoes. Gluttony. Debt created by having to have the next big Thing. Keeping people distracted by making the acquisition of More a priority. We're so busy trying to keep up that we don't pay attention to what really matters.

[TheCZMan]

C'on. You come and comment this way while the housing bubble is still on or was not a so old event?

People get into debt to buy real estate. That is the major debt site during a lifetime.

Whatever, it is another expression that Ron Paul's supporters like to bait with freedom when they think property.

That's all.

[lookingforananswer]

Sorry. I have no idea what you mean.

I believe my point is valid. There is a vast difference between consumerism and property ownership.

[TheCZMan]

You have no idea what I mean?

It does not matter though because it has no incidence on the way things go.

Vast difference between consumerism and property ownership? I do not know why but I can smell BS coming up.

[DsrtWolf]

As always, you make clear points and back your opinions with facts. Great job. 5 stars, added to my world politics playlist :)

[TheCZMan]

Big corporations thank everyone involved in the grass roots efforts. By the end of the day, it means more money in their pockets. A big change from being sollicitated by politicians who want to fund their campaign with big corporation money.

More grass root effort, please.

[msnoodlebrain]

Kucinich is a humanitarian, and someone who has a heart as well as a brain. Kucinich does not think with his purse in mind and he respects the purse more than thieves ever will.

Kucinich inspires the collective spirit to keep truth and freedom alive so that greedy money cannot keep taking over and bullying the crowd.

[Stevo2444]

While Kucinich made the right vote on the war, whic i congratulate him for. His emphasis on international law and being pro UN worries me, he to is willing to sell uss out to unelected foreign elites. Also, his socialist anti constitutionalist domestic policies worry me.

I don't think we need another Kucinich, I would rather have a congress full of people like Ron Paul, a Pro Constitutional Congress.

I might even take a Dick Cheney over a Kucinich.

[AzraelsJudgement]

We do need a place to show us the best non corrupt candidates in each area of the country.

[AzraelsJudgement]

People just keep voting in the name they see the most, the people with the prettiest rhetoric etc. I will fight if anyone shows up in my area that is for freedom but idk. Sabrin is fighting a war in NJ for the senate he aint taking shit and thats how Paul and Kucinich should have been. If he makes it then I have hope.

I can see how Paul could have been killed by his own party but how did Kucinich not make it!

[TheCZMan]

People are so silly. Unable to figure out what is best for them. Guess the founding fathers were not that smart when they wrote "we the People"...

Like it so much this sheeple rhetorics.

[AzraelsJudgement]

Well the founders were at odds with eachother. The articles of confederation was what Jeffersons camp wanted and the Hamiltonians wanted to build an empire. The each made concessions to create the constitution but all of this is pointless because government took over education and media.

[sasuke911fox]

your so smart! like i don't even pay attention to this stuff and find out about it by you :)