The Priorities.

[charlessmyth]

I'd concede Israeli influence thus: Because Israel has a degree of influence in the west via the persistence of AIPAC, etc., it is disinclined to form a stable government in Israel, & relies too much on government by proxy. This is analogous to the US thinking it was clever at Bretton Woods when it contrived to establish hegemony over money underpinned by unsound principles, and which blew up in their faces in the 1970s, & 2008. This implies that Israel's greatest existential threat is Israel.

[charlessmyth]

Too much is made of Israeli influence, which is not to say they have none, since many Jews are members of western governments & have a keen interest, to varying degrees, in Israel and its wellbeing. But you should be much more concerned about the radical Islamic hegemonic influence which Israelis do everything to thwart and warn us of, but we contrive counterproductive legislation to defend against it, in consort with alliances born out of blinkered expediency. The PALs had no land to occupy.

[charlessmyth]

Without intervention after WW1 the region would have been repeatedly destroyed by intertribal violence and the forced redistribution of land. The land of Israel would not have developed beyond what was naturally occurring and Jerusalem would have crumbled into further ruin. There is no evidence to the contrary. So it's not difficult to have a superiority complex, God given, or otherwise:-) As per 'The Priorities', there is ample opportunity for the other regional actors to do better.

[luxedge]

What a masterful distortion of the truth. This video shows the real danger of the Zionists. They know how to distort the reality and have the world media under control. So obviously, no politician in any developed country has the guts to argue with them unless he is very well documented.

To me, the person posting this video is a real sick, evil animal.

[charlessmyth]

I am that 'real sick, evil animal', luxedge. The truth is still the truth no matter how much you and your associates protest it to be otherwise. By not admitting to the truth, you and your associates are only prolonging the distress in Gaza and the West Bank, and are contributing to the terrorism and extremism across the world. Thus, it is you and your associates who are the real sick, evil animals.

[luxedge]

Now some real Israel history for you personally: Before 1890, there were hardly any jews in Palestine. Those that lived there were natives and had been living there for a long time. These were semites, like the other inhabitants of the area. Those others, called palestinians, also semites, were mainly farmers. They farmed their plots all the while the area was still under Ottoman rule. Shortly after WW2, 1920, the Brits took control. All the time, the natives continued to farm their land.

[luxedge]

In 1896, Theodore Herzl's "Der Judenstaat" was published. It outlined the plan to create a jewish nation in Palestine. From that time on, Jews started to emigrate to Palestine, first buying some plots from the locals. They also started to evacuate the non-jewish farmers from the land they occupied. After 1920, the jewish immigrants started to realise that the Locals were no match for them in direct confrontations. They started to forcefully evacuating, or killing the locals.

[luxedge]

This plan was first unwritten, but later become the official policy of the Zionist government: Plan Dalet. Look it up not in wikipedia (which is jewish-biased), but from reliable sources. It says: Destruction of villages (setting fire to, blowing up, and planting mines in the debris), especially those population centers which are difficult to control continuously. The Hagana and its more vicious arm, the Stern Gang, carried out mass expulsions, and mass murders (Deir Yassin) since early 1930.

[luxedge]

This mass expulsion and killing has been going on ever since. Due to the strenght of jewish interests in mass media, very little is reported, even today. Fact is, the natives owned the land even though they were controlled by a foreign power. Israel however has a policy, not to tolerate more than 20% non-jews in Israel. Hence, all natives had their ownership rights destroyed and the land has been given for free to new emigrant jews, taking advantage of Aliyah. The killing continues until today.

[charlessmyth]

Israelis/Jews do not have, nor claim to have a monopoly in the media, banking, suffering, etc. However, due to history they have achieved proportionally more in comparison to their world-wide number than is the case for comparable groups in their chosen fields of endeavour. Israel accounts for 0.33% of the ME's land and under 2% of the population. That leaves 99.6% of the ME for the displaced and distressed you cited to make a better life, for the year zero of 2008, and beyond.

[luxedge]

What are you talking about??. Sure, the Arabs would gladly hand over 5% of their territory in the Sahara to trade it for the land Israel currently occupies. Israel has access to water and can be cultivated. The desert cannot.

Furthermore, there are some powerful nations living on small territories.

FACT is HERE that you live on land that used to belong to other people. You took the land but only purchased about 6 to / % of the land you currently occupy. So what about the other 93-94%?

[charlessmyth]

The Sahara is not a part of the ME, it's a part of North Africa. That's like arguing, Arabs would be glad to hand over Monaco or San Marino. Without Israelis putting in the effort there would be no water, agriculture or anything much else in the land that is Israel, as was and is the case wherever there are Arabs. As a result, the land now belongs to Israel. That's how property rights work. As per T. E. Lawrence, a keen observer of Arabs and their ilk: They are a small minded and petty people.

[luxedge]

A large part of Jordan is desert. Israel has always been fertile. Judea was indeed improved by Israel. BUT

If people live on their land and don't proceed with possible improvements, it does not entitle emigrants with good ideas to just take their land away. What kind of logic is that. You Zionists are suffering from a rare misperception of your own perceived superiority. Probably stems from the Bible, which was written by Jews, stating that you are the chosen people. What a joke.

[Kurtlane]

Youtube has made a total mess of my posts. Here's an explanation:

There are 3 posts

1st: reply to charlessmyth: "Try telling these..." Reply starts with "True, but I won't..", goes on to "And as for..", then to "The few people..", ends with "when university.."

2nd post is reply to MayaKLan: "dont call the people..." Reply starts with "Yes, we are..", ends with "I have plenty of evidence.."

3rd post is reply to charlessmyth: "This is what..." Reply is "Europe is stuck..."

[Kurtlane]

Lauren Boothe's self-promotion and diplomats' attempts to get themselves some bread and butter (lots of butter) while they pretend to work for peace don't strike me as good intentions.

[charlessmyth]

Try telling these peace lovers otherwise at a college meeting, for example. You'd be lynched on the spot, or condemned as a vicious fascist and/or racist. There's an irony in this :-)

[MayaKLan]

dont call the people who are trying to turn israel into palestine "peace lovers". we are the peace lovers! the ones that demand a country, respect and peacefull existance in the face of constant terrorism and hate. no european has ever been a strong a peace lover as the average israeli!

[charlessmyth]

This is what the EU is struggling to comes to terms with. But the EU's attempts to square the circle of tyranny and western freedoms is too rapidly destroying western freedoms. Freedoms which Israel also understands the virtue of. As a consequence of murder and intimidation and criminally bad thinking, Sharia law has just been introduced into the UK. The EU needs to understand that Israel is the side to unequivocally support.

[Kurtlane]

Europe is stuck in its own cycle of shadow. Europe will not understand that Israel is the side to unequivocally support. Forget Europe. It's doomed anyway. It's becoming as Muslim as the Maghreb (North Africa), and just as much an enemy of Israel. It's time we begin treating it as such.

[Kurtlane]

Yes, we are the peace lovers. Too much. Way too much. This is our contribution to the problem. I've thought about it for years, until I realized that our desire for peace, respect and normal existence is the "mirror image" of their terror and hate. That far from alleged "cycle of violence" (where both sides engage in revenge), what we have is a cycle of shadow: the more hideous they become, the less hideous and more peace-loving we get. Which fuels more hatred from them, etc.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

I have plenty of evidence in support of this. And after thinking about it for years I have realized that the only way out of the cycle of shadow is to become less peaceful. So when someone says, "We don't want to become like them," my answer is, "We must become more like them. Whether we want to or not. Because this is the only solution there is."

But it's extremely hard to sell this to Jews.

[MayaKLan]

i have come to the same conclusion my friend. sad but true. its them or us, and we dont have a choice but to survive and fight.

we are still peace lovers, because if they ever put down their gun (and pigs fly) we will be the first in the world to offer peace. its our nature, chosen or not. we are better.

[Kurtlane]

True, but I won't let them scare me. I'm amazed at how students and others in Iran sacrifice their lives in trying to oppose the regime (watch?v=7DqDm5bA88g), while US students and others are scared of losing their reputation. How come a fear of being called "racist" has scared everyone. Since when has America become a nation of cowards? Same thing in Europe. Let them brand me whatever they want, I'll still speak out.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

And as for the fear of being lynched, that won't stop me either. I've been scared through my childhood. Now I've had enough. The hate-filled bastards have made life hardly worth living at all, so losing my life is not that much to me.

The only question for me: in a dictatorship, whoever comes out and speaks becomes an instant threat to the regime. (cont.)

[Kurtlane]

The few people who came to Red Square in Moscow to protest Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia stood there for only a few minutes before being arrested, but their protest immediately became known to the world.

In a democracy, you can scream all you want, but who will hear you? How do you make your position known when thousands of other throats paid by Arab lobby scream the opposite, (cont.)

[Kurtlane]

when university administrations (under pressure from those paid by Arab lobby) do little dirty tricks to shut you down, when local Jewish establishment, though not paid by Arab lobby, is trying its best to help the administration?

[charlessmyth]

Your posts look okay. Be careful not to exceed 500 characters or the post will fail. Europe has a large Muslim population in the south and east, so Islam is not unusual to Europe. Disruptive Islam from the ME is best countered by people confronting the Islamists' demands and not voting for governments which insist on pandering to extremists in order to make bad policies possible. This is beginning to happen in the UK and Germany. The UK, France and Germany have sworn support for Israel.

[p058720235]

*****

The sound is terible but the photos and message are pricless!

You truly "hit the spot" with your understanding of he situation.

Favorited & shared.

[charlessmyth]

Thanks for that :-) It's not rocket science.

[p058720235]

It's not rocket science - LOLOLOL

You are right....there are so many idiots around the world that close their eyes & blame the wrong side.

[horvay]

Great video. I think your images help understanding alot. You usually cover so much information in a few minutes, and the pictures really help me memorize the ideas as you go.

[charlessmyth]

Thanks a lot :-) I have finished adding the annotations which you probably missed out on. If so let me know how it looks now.

[horvay]

Nice annotation. Though I had to keep pausing the video to read them. Really one would need to watch and listen one time, then watch and read a second time.

But it worked out nicely, as it explained lots of the details (especially good with the hard to read map).