@octane629 I didn't see anybody twist your arm to force you to watch it. Thats the great thing about this country. Its called freedom. If you dont like it, the door is open - use it.
1.Assassinating Americans 2. Bypassing Congress 3. Domestic Spying 4. Drug War 5. Gun Running 6. Illegal Searches 7. Illegal Wiretaps 8. Illegal Wars 9. Kidnapping 10. Life in Prison even after acquittal 11. Obstruction of Justice 12. Racketeering 13. Torture 14. Treason 15. Using DU on Civilians & US Troops 16. War Crimes, etc
In FL, an Atheist sued the state wanting a "holiday" because all of the other Realigions had them, so the Judge settled the case by by quoting Scripture and designating April Fools Day as his HOLIDAY! Touche!
Michael Moore was one of the first to publicly criticize the Obama & G.W Bush connection. Opening a lot of eyes, which for many started the whole awareness of the 9-11 controversy outside the 'official story'. What did you do?
Jody, you are one seriously gifted news anchor. Do you write your own stuff? If not, what do you write? Your delivery and presentation are as close to perfect as one could find.
Michael Moore is a hideous looking Socialist that probably still lives in his parents' basement and plays XBox all night long. When he isn't at home and he's out on the prowl, your 10 get you 20 that he's failing to pay prevailing wages for his film and editing crew that he suckered in to helping him create these awful films full of lies geared to dress the Republican party, free market capitalism, conservativism and Bush as evil.
I love NewsBusted. Only thing, it does no good to forward to some of my left-leaning friends. One told me that as soon as it mentioned the word "Conservative" in the opening, he turned it off. You need to sneak up on those guys a little better LOL!
Sad that an atheist can be so filled with disdain for others and their beliefs that he would go to such ridiculous levels of idiocy to mock them - talk about freakin' irrational! He really makes atheists look like the ridiculous ass-clowns they are. Atheism is becoming excellent bone-heads to lampoon! LOL!
And thanks Jodi for displaying a photo of Micheal Moore, I just got over puking from seeing the last time! What a fat stinkin' piece of shit.
@theothertroll Yeah, because believing that a Jewish zombie god can cleanse a taint on your invisible soul (put there when a rib-woman ate some fruit) makes more sense than atheism.
@Drumboy5165 Right, and next week when I go to get my new Drivers pic taken, I will wear a cross as big as my fist around my neck...and God help the jerk that tells me I can't.
@Drumboy5165 Christianity brought us the Children's Crusade, the Inquisition, IRA bombings, the sex abuse scandals, and the Inquisition, to name just a few. You have a strange definition of good and decent.
@PissedFechtmeister In all of the last 300 years Christianity has been responsible for about 3,000 deaths. The GODless/athiest in the last 100 years have been responsible for over 100 million deaths!!! The sex abuse by homosexual priest is a great point, but entirely out of context since the abuse rate in the priesthood is significantly lower than general population. It also serves as a great reason to oppose the adoption of children by homosexual men. Thanks
@carlindelco Appox 90% of charitable organizations are Faith Based or had their origins in faith based doing good. Hospitals in third world countries, As well as schools, and many other deeds of kindness come from, not atheists, but Christians. True some take the name of christian for wrong purposes, but even the greatness of this country was because of Christianity. 100,000,000 deaths? I think you are confusing that with Soviet Union, Germany (Nazis),and the communist Chinese(Athiests).
@PissedFechtmeister No sir! Christianity did NONE of the vile things you stated! Men in their sinful darkness committed each of those acts and will be judged for them. I would rather live a life attempting to be decent and good, even though I fail, than running headlong into the sinful Hedonism and perversion you support as 'atheism'.
I would rather someone look back at my life and genuinely say "he was a decent man" than have one say..."he was sure a sinful, hate filled, wretch of a human."
@Drumboy5165 Atheism is not the same as hedonism. You seem to be really confused, but that's what i expect from Christians. Why is it that countries with mostly atheist populations tend to have low crime rates while countries with high Christian populations have high crime rates? In truth atheists tend to be more moral than Christians.
@PissedFechtmeister The only one confused here is you, you have no clue about Christians or Christianity, even though you're attempting to seem 'enlightened', but that's the standard misinformation that comes from the majority of atheists. You might want to back up your 'claims' by providing reliable information proving it, otherwise it's the standard atheist propaganda.
@PissedFechtmeister Its becasue Atheists countries have better crime control ie SS, KGB. Also a controlled media that will not release accurate information.
@PissedFechtmeister Hmmm. Did I mention the Netherlands? I don't think so. You consider Netherlands an atheistic country? Is that what you are saying?
@PissedFechtmeister Are you saying that only Christianity cases all these problems? Have you so neatly negated the Muslims, the secularists, and the communistic atheists? Seems like all mankind has this problem. If so, what is the conclusion. Perhaps it is because we all, communist, Muslims "Christians,an others have a sin problem. Perhaps the biggest problem is that we try to hide it under the guise of Atheism, secularism and such.
@7archers Theism demonstrably doesn't make people behave better and correlates with worse behavior. We'd be better off without Christianity, Islam, communism, and every other religion (yes, I consider communism a religion).
@PissedFechtmeister I disagree with both of your statements. Particularly about Communism being its own religion. Unless you agree that Atheism is a religion. Perhaps it is.
@7archers Atheism is a lack of belief and so is in no way a religion (is naked a style of clothing?). Communism is filled with dogma that goes unchallenged and centers around the belief in the almighty state. Like all cults it has charismatic leaders who go unquestioned (Lenin, Mao, Stalin, etc.)
@PissedFechtmeister Logically, affirming the negative is the same as denying the positive, so it is making a statement of its own without any proof. The best any atheist can really say is "i don't know but I believe" like a theist. The best argument against God is "it's best not to talk about things in this universe for which there will never be proof in this universe" (possibly unfalsifiable). Anyway, being an atheist, the bit about it not being a religion is bullshit.
@fizzingwhizbeee You misunderstand atheism. The lack of belief in any gods is not the same as believing there are no gods. Furthermore religion is not the same as belief. You can believe that your wife is faithful to you when you're not around, but that's not a religion. Religions need to have beliefs, dogmas, and rituals. Atheism lacks all three.
@PissedFechtmeister"The lack of belief in any gods is not the same as believing there are no gods." Aristotelian square of opposition. Look it up. As for religion. it depends on what you count as a ritual, dogma, etc. I see an arrogance in Atheism unmatched by almost any other religion. Is this ritual or just a bitch thing? I've seen enough "There is no God, end of story" to dismiss any chance of dogma. As previously implied, atheists are not above beliefs, and I suppose that's all I need say.
@fizzingwhizbeee I looked up the square of opposition. What does it have to do with what I said? Catholics were arrogant enough to torture people and slaughter heretics. Muslims and Jews are arrogant enough to kill people. Christians are arrogant enough to want to write their religion into our laws. Christians arrogantly assert that atheists have no morals. There's no arrogance in lacking belief in any gods when no gods have any evidence favoring their existence.
@PissedFechtmeister Square of opposition: arguing all gods are existing gods, no gods are existing gods, some gods are existing gods, and some gods are not existing gods, are all arguments or beliefs. Arguing that religious people are arrogant enough to kill people is absurd. Plenty of atheists have murdered too. Religion or lack of is a knife, not the murderer. That was certainly not what I meant by arrogant. I mean that in-your-face unpleasantness on average. :-P
@PissedFechtmeister sorry you've had the experience of someone questioning your morals. I've yet to have that experience, but I'm sure a day will come. (like when I come out to my mother)
@fizzingwhizbeee Atheists have beliefs, but there are no atheist beliefs (i.e. no beliefs particular to atheists). There is no atheist dogma nor atheist rituals.
@PissedFechtmeister The belief in no Gods or a godless universe seems to be a pretty atheist belief that all atheists share. Before you say those aren't beliefs, check the square again.
@PissedFechtmeister And that my dear friend is atheist dogma. Check the square. They are one and the same. Claiming "NO A are B" is logically identical to "Some A are B is false". The universal negative and claiming the particular affirmative to be false are the same." I believe 'no Gods are existing Gods' " and "I do not believe 'some Gods are existing Gods' " are identical and inseparable logically. Now get over your atheist self and find something else to argue about.
@fizzingwhizbeee You're still not seeing the distinction. Instead of talking about gods, let's talk about your mother. Do I believe her name is Harriet? No. Do I believe her name is not Harriet? The answer is still no. I neither believe nor disbelieve that her name is Harriet. In the same way I neither believe nor disbelieve in the existence of any gods (except Biblegod which cannot logically exist).
@PissedFechtmeister than you're agnostic? I suppose you are then not trying to argue that you think "some gods are existing gods" is false. And agreed. Bibleman cannot exist. He make no sense. I've heard the argument "disbelieving in the existence of gods isn't the same as believing in no gods" (which logically don't make no sense). But I suppose it's possible not to disbelieve or believe in gods, but then are you really an atheist?
@fizzingwhizbeee I blame All in the Family for getting society to equate agnosticism with "neither believing nor disbelieving in any god or gods". That's actually what atheism is (though it's sometimes called weak atheism where strong atheism is believing that gods don't exist). Agnosticism is actually the belief that the existence of gods is unknowable. I don't hold such a belief in general, though some gods are defined to be unknowable (e.g. the god of Deism).
@PissedFechtmeister It sucks that they don't have a word for neither theist nor athiest. I'm aware of the literal definition of agnosticism, but it's better than anything you've got. Neither believing nor disbelieving in any god or gods is not atheism. Atheists clearly disbelieve in gods. A-theist. If one is neither atheist nor theist, they are not atheist. It doesn't compute. And also I would argue most definitions of god include them being unprovable. But that's irrelevant. When you find a(2)
@PissedFechtmeister better definition for "not atheist" or "neither believing nor disbelieving in any god or gods" you let me know. Personally I think "weak atheists" is a term made up by atheists who didn't want to feel so lonely. If those who don't disbelieve in god are excluded from atheism, real atheists would be quite lonely indeed.
@bigjack940 If you like theocracy so much there are several Middle Eastern nations that you'd feel right at home in. You'll find their morality is pretty much the same as yours (kill gays, no sex before marriage, no divorce, kill atheists, pedophilia is okay as long as you marry the 9 year old first, etc.).
@PissedFechtmeister I think that is way over the line. No 1, we don't have a theocracy here, we have a Republic. No. 2, I don't know of any true Christian that advocates killing gays, or killing atheists. Nor do we support Pedophilia. To make those claims is so outlandish I don't know where to begin with you. Also your context on no sex before marriage, has to do more with purity and not about license.
@7archers The Religious Reich wants to replace our Republic with a theocracy. The history of the Christian Church is that of killing gays, heretics, and non-believers. Catholics and Protestants in Ireland killed each other over religion. Muslims and Jews kill each other over religion. Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims in former Yugoslavia kill each other over religion. The Catholic Church protected pedophiles from the law.
@PissedFechtmeister there are and will always be those that take good and use it for evil. Just like the ? Atheistic governments like the soviet Union and China. I still fail to see where you see our country as a theocracy. Comparing it to the middle east. You sure do take liberties with this.
@7archers As I said before the Religious Reich wants to turn us into a theocracy. The assault on gay rights is a religious one. Attempts to get Creationism/ID taught in science classes is based in religion. Opposition to abortion rights is religious. Resisting efforts to take "under God" out of the Pledge (i.e. restoring it to its original form) is religious. Blue laws are religious. God appearing on money is religious. The insane War on Drugs is religious. Being Israel's lapdog is religious.
@PissedFechtmeister a jewish Zombie god? I am not sure where you got that. However you should try and reach out to this God. You will have to face Him later anyway.
@7archers Let's see, Jesus was Jewish, yes? Jesus died, yes? Jesus bodily rose from the dead, yes? You believe that Jesus is God, yes? Well by my accounting that makes Jesus a Jewish zombie god.
@PissedFechtmeister So you are saying if anyone is resurected, they re Zombies? Is that your definition of the Resurection? Well I guess that means when you go to meet him you too will be a zombie. Imagine that, one Zombie meeting another.
@7archers Sure if someone is bodily raised from the dead he'd be a zombie. I also forgot to mention the zombie invasion of Jerusalem that Matthew mentions. Jesus is a necromancer too.
@7archers We have to defend the US from the Religious Reich who want to write the Bible into our laws (Huckabee was explicit about this when he was running for President).
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That canned laughter sounds almost real...
deetjay1 1 month ago
If she would just do whatever she did in the nude I can appreciate it because I've got control of the mute button.
walkermydawg 1 month ago
Was this supposed to be funny?
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I think she is spot on with her comments, and funny too.
golfnt516 6 months ago
funny stuff but maybe find another soundbite between lines
the canned laughter is really lacking sorry
good writing though !
PATRIOTPREACHER58 7 months ago
I don't believe in atheists !
And have not made up my mind about agnostics
thecoldhardtruth 7 months ago
I dont have enough knowlege about agnostics . ....
PATRIOTPREACHER58 7 months ago
does anyone actually find this funny? why the canned laughter. i wish i could even laugh AT this person, but she isn't even funny enough to laugh AT.
octane629 7 months ago
@octane629 I didn't see anybody twist your arm to force you to watch it. Thats the great thing about this country. Its called freedom. If you dont like it, the door is open - use it.
fjax01 7 months ago
the intro is too long.
thegreatlordkaiser 7 months ago
ROTFLMAO!! Excellent!
tedm82 7 months ago
You guys are so mean to Michael Moore xD
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RevolutionNewsDotUS2 7 months ago
Micheal Moore what a joke of a human being. If you can even call him that.
drummgod40 7 months ago
Michael Moore...Pumpkin Head idiot.
steverayrapp 7 months ago
Atheism - /watch?v=Ix7AnKXHxmI
KringleOfBorg 7 months ago
In FL, an Atheist sued the state wanting a "holiday" because all of the other Realigions had them, so the Judge settled the case by by quoting Scripture and designating April Fools Day as his HOLIDAY! Touche!
MummyOXO 7 months ago 4
I loved the Michael Moore line from Jodie Miller, what a miserable Liberal slob. I wonder why MO doesn't try to help him?
MummyOXO 7 months ago
This lady sounds like Miley Cyrus and the laugh track is whack.
alphy79d 7 months ago
Michael Moore was one of the first to publicly criticize the Obama & G.W Bush connection. Opening a lot of eyes, which for many started the whole awareness of the 9-11 controversy outside the 'official story'. What did you do?
wastedaga1n 7 months ago
@wastedaga1n Criticism is one thing, honest criticism is another.
7archers 7 months ago
I bet that's not ALL Michael Moore beats! ewwwwwwww! get that outa my head!
cowgirlmoon 7 months ago
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I love that big smile she always gives (2:10) at the end of each show :D
cpuaggie 7 months ago
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cpuaggie 7 months ago
why do people tell me to watch his movies? they really believe his bs i guess... Bush is the Devil! waaaah!
jamvaru 7 months ago
I heard that Michael Moore has the hots for Jodi Miller. Hey a Love connection
blackbeard456 7 months ago
Two words I hate: "And finally".
I could watch you a LOT longer.
danmo43 7 months ago
hey whale wars they are on land and go by the name of Michael Moore
scootosan 7 months ago
Jodi, can we get together for a drink sometime?
JedEkert 7 months ago
Michael Moore BEAT anorexia TWICE . . . by eating two anorexics . . .
greengringo2003 7 months ago 25
Please stop the canned laughter.
MarkGauvreau 7 months ago
So... part of the atheist belief system is looking stupid for no real reason?
I couldn't have said it better myself.
pimpdalyrical 7 months ago
@pimpdalyrical It's very consistent with their beliefs..lol
carlindelco 7 months ago
There really is no such thing as Anorexia. Michael Moore just eats everyone else' s food and they starve to death.
jtkirkfan2002 7 months ago 18
The Hoff at least got one episode of the new reality show "Same Name" that at least seven people watched.
jtkirkfan2002 7 months ago
Jody, you are one seriously gifted news anchor. Do you write your own stuff? If not, what do you write? Your delivery and presentation are as close to perfect as one could find.
Joseph F
Portland, OR USA
B52sguy 7 months ago
Now this is the way to start the weekend. LOVE IT.
computerpurple 7 months ago
LOL! Michael Moore whipped Anorexia's Ass!
DBoy2029 7 months ago 2
Michael Moore is a hideous looking Socialist that probably still lives in his parents' basement and plays XBox all night long. When he isn't at home and he's out on the prowl, your 10 get you 20 that he's failing to pay prevailing wages for his film and editing crew that he suckered in to helping him create these awful films full of lies geared to dress the Republican party, free market capitalism, conservativism and Bush as evil.
latinojetsfan 7 months ago 4
I always thought Black was slimming... Michael Moore proved that wrong.
xtaxplayer 7 months ago 4
She is absolutely great.
TheRowwdy 7 months ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 7 months ago
Thought this episode fell a little flat-had to chuckle at the moore comment though...
daddyd0c 7 months ago
That has to be the best one I've seen yet...
conservativeco 7 months ago
Our new weapon against terrorism ---- Obamacare ?????
dirtyblondny 7 months ago
I love NewsBusted. Only thing, it does no good to forward to some of my left-leaning friends. One told me that as soon as it mentioned the word "Conservative" in the opening, he turned it off. You need to sneak up on those guys a little better LOL!
BealeBernson 7 months ago
obammie Loves to call on Huff P. at his 'news conferences' (church of Me).
3martijns 7 months ago
'huffie pee' is Supported by 'gorgie sorries'.
3martijns 7 months ago
Sad that an atheist can be so filled with disdain for others and their beliefs that he would go to such ridiculous levels of idiocy to mock them - talk about freakin' irrational! He really makes atheists look like the ridiculous ass-clowns they are. Atheism is becoming excellent bone-heads to lampoon! LOL!
And thanks Jodi for displaying a photo of Micheal Moore, I just got over puking from seeing the last time! What a fat stinkin' piece of shit.
theothertroll 7 months ago 2
@theothertroll Yeah, because believing that a Jewish zombie god can cleanse a taint on your invisible soul (put there when a rib-woman ate some fruit) makes more sense than atheism.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Decent of you to prove theothertroll's point, CHEERS!
BarzOnTheWindow1 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Yeah, how dare someone believe in something good and decent rather than nothing at all. The gall of some people.
Drumboy5165 7 months ago
@Drumboy5165 Right, and next week when I go to get my new Drivers pic taken, I will wear a cross as big as my fist around my neck...and God help the jerk that tells me I can't.
tjbollman1 7 months ago
@tjbollman1 LOL!
Drumboy5165 7 months ago
@Drumboy5165 Christianity brought us the Children's Crusade, the Inquisition, IRA bombings, the sex abuse scandals, and the Inquisition, to name just a few. You have a strange definition of good and decent.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister In all of the last 300 years Christianity has been responsible for about 3,000 deaths. The GODless/athiest in the last 100 years have been responsible for over 100 million deaths!!! The sex abuse by homosexual priest is a great point, but entirely out of context since the abuse rate in the priesthood is significantly lower than general population. It also serves as a great reason to oppose the adoption of children by homosexual men. Thanks
carlindelco 7 months ago 2
@carlindelco Just goes to show that you can convince yourself of anything by inventing numbers that you like.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@carlindelco Appox 90% of charitable organizations are Faith Based or had their origins in faith based doing good. Hospitals in third world countries, As well as schools, and many other deeds of kindness come from, not atheists, but Christians. True some take the name of christian for wrong purposes, but even the greatness of this country was because of Christianity. 100,000,000 deaths? I think you are confusing that with Soviet Union, Germany (Nazis),and the communist Chinese(Athiests).
7archers 7 months ago
@carlindelco Sorry, that comment I sent was for Mr PissedFecmeister.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers LOL yeah I was wondering why you were telling me something I already know and believe lol
carlindelco 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister No sir! Christianity did NONE of the vile things you stated! Men in their sinful darkness committed each of those acts and will be judged for them. I would rather live a life attempting to be decent and good, even though I fail, than running headlong into the sinful Hedonism and perversion you support as 'atheism'.
I would rather someone look back at my life and genuinely say "he was a decent man" than have one say..."he was sure a sinful, hate filled, wretch of a human."
Drumboy5165 7 months ago 3
@Drumboy5165 Atheism is not the same as hedonism. You seem to be really confused, but that's what i expect from Christians. Why is it that countries with mostly atheist populations tend to have low crime rates while countries with high Christian populations have high crime rates? In truth atheists tend to be more moral than Christians.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister The only one confused here is you, you have no clue about Christians or Christianity, even though you're attempting to seem 'enlightened', but that's the standard misinformation that comes from the majority of atheists. You might want to back up your 'claims' by providing reliable information proving it, otherwise it's the standard atheist propaganda.
Drumboy5165 7 months ago
@Drumboy5165 atheismresource (dot) com / 2010 / atheist-dont-commit-as-much-crime-as-the-religious-do
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Its becasue Atheists countries have better crime control ie SS, KGB. Also a controlled media that will not release accurate information.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers You mean the Netherlands has it's own version of the KGB? Get serious.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Hmmm. Did I mention the Netherlands? I don't think so. You consider Netherlands an atheistic country? Is that what you are saying?
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers Netherlands was just an example. And only 39% of the population there is religious.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Are you saying that only Christianity cases all these problems? Have you so neatly negated the Muslims, the secularists, and the communistic atheists? Seems like all mankind has this problem. If so, what is the conclusion. Perhaps it is because we all, communist, Muslims "Christians,an others have a sin problem. Perhaps the biggest problem is that we try to hide it under the guise of Atheism, secularism and such.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers Theism demonstrably doesn't make people behave better and correlates with worse behavior. We'd be better off without Christianity, Islam, communism, and every other religion (yes, I consider communism a religion).
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister I disagree with both of your statements. Particularly about Communism being its own religion. Unless you agree that Atheism is a religion. Perhaps it is.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers Atheism is a lack of belief and so is in no way a religion (is naked a style of clothing?). Communism is filled with dogma that goes unchallenged and centers around the belief in the almighty state. Like all cults it has charismatic leaders who go unquestioned (Lenin, Mao, Stalin, etc.)
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Logically, affirming the negative is the same as denying the positive, so it is making a statement of its own without any proof. The best any atheist can really say is "i don't know but I believe" like a theist. The best argument against God is "it's best not to talk about things in this universe for which there will never be proof in this universe" (possibly unfalsifiable). Anyway, being an atheist, the bit about it not being a religion is bullshit.
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee You misunderstand atheism. The lack of belief in any gods is not the same as believing there are no gods. Furthermore religion is not the same as belief. You can believe that your wife is faithful to you when you're not around, but that's not a religion. Religions need to have beliefs, dogmas, and rituals. Atheism lacks all three.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister"The lack of belief in any gods is not the same as believing there are no gods." Aristotelian square of opposition. Look it up. As for religion. it depends on what you count as a ritual, dogma, etc. I see an arrogance in Atheism unmatched by almost any other religion. Is this ritual or just a bitch thing? I've seen enough "There is no God, end of story" to dismiss any chance of dogma. As previously implied, atheists are not above beliefs, and I suppose that's all I need say.
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee I looked up the square of opposition. What does it have to do with what I said? Catholics were arrogant enough to torture people and slaughter heretics. Muslims and Jews are arrogant enough to kill people. Christians are arrogant enough to want to write their religion into our laws. Christians arrogantly assert that atheists have no morals. There's no arrogance in lacking belief in any gods when no gods have any evidence favoring their existence.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Square of opposition: arguing all gods are existing gods, no gods are existing gods, some gods are existing gods, and some gods are not existing gods, are all arguments or beliefs. Arguing that religious people are arrogant enough to kill people is absurd. Plenty of atheists have murdered too. Religion or lack of is a knife, not the murderer. That was certainly not what I meant by arrogant. I mean that in-your-face unpleasantness on average. :-P
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee But lack of a belief in any gods doesn't fit into any of those categories.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister sorry you've had the experience of someone questioning your morals. I've yet to have that experience, but I'm sure a day will come. (like when I come out to my mother)
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee Atheists have beliefs, but there are no atheist beliefs (i.e. no beliefs particular to atheists). There is no atheist dogma nor atheist rituals.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister The belief in no Gods or a godless universe seems to be a pretty atheist belief that all atheists share. Before you say those aren't beliefs, check the square again.
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee Belief that no gods exist is not the same as lacking belief that gods exist.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister And that my dear friend is atheist dogma. Check the square. They are one and the same. Claiming "NO A are B" is logically identical to "Some A are B is false". The universal negative and claiming the particular affirmative to be false are the same." I believe 'no Gods are existing Gods' " and "I do not believe 'some Gods are existing Gods' " are identical and inseparable logically. Now get over your atheist self and find something else to argue about.
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee You're still not seeing the distinction. Instead of talking about gods, let's talk about your mother. Do I believe her name is Harriet? No. Do I believe her name is not Harriet? The answer is still no. I neither believe nor disbelieve that her name is Harriet. In the same way I neither believe nor disbelieve in the existence of any gods (except Biblegod which cannot logically exist).
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. Now, go get a job.
tjttzcspplt 7 months ago
@tjttzcspplt I own my own business, thanks.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister than you're agnostic? I suppose you are then not trying to argue that you think "some gods are existing gods" is false. And agreed. Bibleman cannot exist. He make no sense. I've heard the argument "disbelieving in the existence of gods isn't the same as believing in no gods" (which logically don't make no sense). But I suppose it's possible not to disbelieve or believe in gods, but then are you really an atheist?
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee I blame All in the Family for getting society to equate agnosticism with "neither believing nor disbelieving in any god or gods". That's actually what atheism is (though it's sometimes called weak atheism where strong atheism is believing that gods don't exist). Agnosticism is actually the belief that the existence of gods is unknowable. I don't hold such a belief in general, though some gods are defined to be unknowable (e.g. the god of Deism).
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister It sucks that they don't have a word for neither theist nor athiest. I'm aware of the literal definition of agnosticism, but it's better than anything you've got. Neither believing nor disbelieving in any god or gods is not atheism. Atheists clearly disbelieve in gods. A-theist. If one is neither atheist nor theist, they are not atheist. It doesn't compute. And also I would argue most definitions of god include them being unprovable. But that's irrelevant. When you find a(2)
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@fizzingwhizbeee
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The fool has said in their heart "there is no god" == that sums it up !
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PATRIOTPREACHER58 7 months ago
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@PissedFechtmeister better definition for "not atheist" or "neither believing nor disbelieving in any god or gods" you let me know. Personally I think "weak atheists" is a term made up by atheists who didn't want to feel so lonely. If those who don't disbelieve in god are excluded from atheism, real atheists would be quite lonely indeed.
fizzingwhizbeee 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister I think it makes more sense than atheism. Atheism makes no sense.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers Atheism is the lack of belief in any gods. Since there's zero evidence for any gods then atheism is the most rational position.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister , We'd also be better off without you, so, when are you leaving fool?
bigjack940 7 months ago
@bigjack940 If you like theocracy so much there are several Middle Eastern nations that you'd feel right at home in. You'll find their morality is pretty much the same as yours (kill gays, no sex before marriage, no divorce, kill atheists, pedophilia is okay as long as you marry the 9 year old first, etc.).
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister I think that is way over the line. No 1, we don't have a theocracy here, we have a Republic. No. 2, I don't know of any true Christian that advocates killing gays, or killing atheists. Nor do we support Pedophilia. To make those claims is so outlandish I don't know where to begin with you. Also your context on no sex before marriage, has to do more with purity and not about license.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers The Religious Reich wants to replace our Republic with a theocracy. The history of the Christian Church is that of killing gays, heretics, and non-believers. Catholics and Protestants in Ireland killed each other over religion. Muslims and Jews kill each other over religion. Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims in former Yugoslavia kill each other over religion. The Catholic Church protected pedophiles from the law.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister there are and will always be those that take good and use it for evil. Just like the ? Atheistic governments like the soviet Union and China. I still fail to see where you see our country as a theocracy. Comparing it to the middle east. You sure do take liberties with this.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers As I said before the Religious Reich wants to turn us into a theocracy. The assault on gay rights is a religious one. Attempts to get Creationism/ID taught in science classes is based in religion. Opposition to abortion rights is religious. Resisting efforts to take "under God" out of the Pledge (i.e. restoring it to its original form) is religious. Blue laws are religious. God appearing on money is religious. The insane War on Drugs is religious. Being Israel's lapdog is religious.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister a jewish Zombie god? I am not sure where you got that. However you should try and reach out to this God. You will have to face Him later anyway.
7archers 7 months ago
@7archers Let's see, Jesus was Jewish, yes? Jesus died, yes? Jesus bodily rose from the dead, yes? You believe that Jesus is God, yes? Well by my accounting that makes Jesus a Jewish zombie god.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@PissedFechtmeister So you are saying if anyone is resurected, they re Zombies? Is that your definition of the Resurection? Well I guess that means when you go to meet him you too will be a zombie. Imagine that, one Zombie meeting another.
7archers 7 months ago
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@7archers Sure if someone is bodily raised from the dead he'd be a zombie. I also forgot to mention the zombie invasion of Jerusalem that Matthew mentions. Jesus is a necromancer too.
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@theothertroll Isn't it strange that Atheists spend so much time attacking what they say they don't believe in.
7archers 7 months ago 4
@7archers We have to defend the US from the Religious Reich who want to write the Bible into our laws (Huckabee was explicit about this when he was running for President).
PissedFechtmeister 7 months ago
@7archers I don't think it's strange at all... the U.S. doesn't believe in communism or Islam, and what does the U.S. spend all its time attacking?
TheOJDrinker 1 month ago
@theothertroll their hatred consumes them. Imagine these so called atheists fighting hard against something they claim they don't believe in.
7archers 7 months ago
So many people beat me to the Michael Moore comments, doh, LOL.
joker102877 7 months ago
No man is an island, but Michael Moore comes close.
1248dl 7 months ago 2
@1248dl Your right, he's 'moore' like a small country!
kanukster 7 months ago
A urinal puck is 'moore' useful than Michael Moore!
kanukster 7 months ago 2
Would be so much better without the canned fake laughter.
OWC2000 7 months ago
@OWC2000 they been saying that for 2 years..I kind of think this format would be even more odd without the laughter
takerdust 7 months ago
Jodi I love you,lets see some more tit.
TheWickerman48 7 months ago
Where can I send MM 3 dozen donuts? No, wait. Make that 5 dozen.
tinydancer1965 7 months ago
The Boxers could feed on Michael Moore for a year.
Politicalboxers 7 months ago
If you can't laugh at both sides then don't laugh at all. Good stuff Jodi.
willysings 7 months ago
Very Funny Schtuff!!
68air 7 months ago
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iwantsifegold 7 months ago
What a hideous slob Moore is.
Shargrailar 7 months ago 54
@Shargrailar That was an insult to hideous slobs everywhere!
l1nkh0gthr0b 7 months ago
@Shargrailar REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
tjbollman1 7 months ago
She needs a new chair, the swivel is too distracting.
wingbatzero 7 months ago
@wingbatzero someone is always bitching!
bcsblues1 7 months ago
Hahaha Michael Moore.
MrTotez 7 months ago 31
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TheBrotherOfSisters 7 months ago