su-16c, ak-47 or 74, or a sub 2000, wondering would i should get because all of them I can fight in my pack (ak might need a folding stock), thus getting to good open shooting areas is easier. the su-16 is light and accurate, ak has that cool factor which makes me want it, and the sub 2000 is the lightest and easiest to carry but lacks range. dam tough choices.
@TheSolitaryTraveller what do you want it for? sub 2000 is my favorite home defense gun and its very fun my ak is fun and is just cool factor and i dont own the su16.
@HighlanderNorth1 Yeah in Canada they are illegal, nothing full auto is allowed. All black semi ARs are restricted meaning you need a special license and the ARs that you can buy without the special license are minimum $1800. You are lucky my friend.
@Kylef7735 lol dude saiga is the original ak47 its made in the izhmash weapons plant where the russian military makes there weapons theres the saiga 12k 12 gauge semi automatic which can actually run about 500-600 dollars and the saiga 410 shotgun which runs about the same but im talking about the saiga 7.65x39 im actually gonna get one its the original ak47 its ak47 platform its one of the best AK's around....
@JugBrothers Saigas are not original aks, they have had tons of parts changed out to make them "Sporting" and therefore legal to import. They are as much like an Ak as a browning BAR or the kel tec featured in this video.
And if youre all about the saigas, Check the arsenal saigas, they have had all the crap "Sporting" parts replaced with the originals, and i believe the SGLs are the rebuilt saigas.
@Kylef7735 that's the gun i'm talking about not the crap sporterized ones the ak build pistol grip one thats capable of high capacity magazines.. trust me man i wouldn't buy a crap california gun with a 10 round magazine.... i'm from colorado here we try to buy top notch stuff....
@Kylef7735 no its not completely original all parts are original other than reciever so its 922r complient dude.... you cant even have a fully original ak47 i mean made in the original factory....
Just restore one back to how it should be. If you check on Izhmash's non-US site, you'll see the saiga rifles in their correct configurations, and realize they're just non-automatic versions of the typical AK, using pretty much all the same parts.
I have a restored saiga 308 running a PK-AS and it's a FANTASTIC gun, after a little buffing on the internals it runs smoother than any AR15.
@Kylef7735 but i think i might get this instead i'm going back and forth on the ak47 saiga or the sterling carbine just cause of the ammo being cheaper
@Kylef7735 but saigas or made in the izhmash weapons plant where they make the millitary ones just semi auto version is what i'm getting its gonna be fun...
@Kylef7735 and by the way i'm not saying the kel-tec guns are bad in anyway i'm a big fan of them i just really want to get myself an original russian saiga ak47...
Anyone looking at this rifle should know this is one bad little muther.Keltec has this in a pistol and 5.56 caliber too.Basically a no stock, shorter barrel in the PLR16.Thats got to be devasting but i own a SU16c and i love it.
I live up in Canada and apparently we got the SU-16F and I have been stock-piling LAR-15 mags since for whatever reason the RCMP deemed those legal 10rd mags (all other auto mags are pinned to 5rd) and I have been looking into non-restricted .223/5.56mm semi-auto rifles that accept STENAG magazines and as I have heard/read the SU-16F accepts a STENAG magazine but my question was what is the key differences between the SU-16F and the SU-16C?
I live in California. This rifle gets around many of the stupid 'assault rifle' bans because it has no pistol grip. Of course the 10 round magazine rule still applies in CA. As soon as I can get the money, I am going to buy this rifle to appease my shooting needs until I move away (I'm 18, attending college, but plan to transfer to the midwest my junior year). Thank you Nut'n for the great video, as always
Seems like this would be a great "side arm" for a sniper load out, when a handgun isn't a possibility. plus when stock is folded should be able to fit in a large size pack.
California is not a Socialist state: Us Socialists support 2A rights. California is a bribery laden Republican powered disaster and has been for 30 years.
@CDMJDMHHC Actually, Republicans have full control of California, and have for a while now. And, not all Liberals and Democrats are anti-gun. In fact, I'm a proud Liberal AND gun owner, and there are A LOT of us! Many don't say much because the extremist NRA types give all gun owners a bad name and make us look unstable. California's gun laws are a result of programs started by Regan, not by "Dems". Gun control has been enacted by more Conservative politicians than Liberal
@neothespian I agree completely. The Republicans LOVE to put it in your head that librals want to "TAKE ALL YOUR GUNS AWAY" OOooh. Look at the print objectively and it's clear that some libs are anti-gun, but more than half don't want to TOUCH any firearms laws. I'm a gun-toting, active hunting and drilling Liberal. I'm NOT alone. It's silly to just be brainwashed into everything you hear. But it's been an effective tool in the Conservative arsenal to use this anit lib influence
I saw the PLR-16 on the ad for Kel Tec, would like to see a video from you maybe comparing PLR-16 with the PLR-22 or maybe against other SBR/Long-barreled pistols..would be pretty awesome
I'd just like to say that I think nutnfancy's videos are terrific. I am a proud firearm owner in Canada and I find his videos are always informative but you don't fall asleep watching them like many others, he keeps your attention in a casual but professional manner.
Nutnfancy, thank you for making great videos. For the record, I plan on purchasing a SU-16 in the next coming months in the Great White North.
make it happin and get back to ur family ... haha great quote ... love the vids evan though ur sister said u dont respond i got my wife a mini 14 thinkin bout one of these now ...
Do you think an ar15 mag well grip will fit on this rifle? The mag wells look similar, and it looks very hard to control with an open bipod with not much to grab onto other than the mag.
Oh yeah, and does anyone have the rail kit for this, and is it any good? If it is, I might consider getting one if I buy the rifle, not that it would really do much in California, because I don't believe you can have a detachable magazine with any sort of vertical grip. Which makes me wonder if the Magoul AFG would work... sorry for all the questions, again, nice review!
Im thinking of getting one of these because here in California (don't get me wrong, I love it here) I cant have a detachable magazine on my pistol gripped AR. Now I'm sure someone is going to argue that there is some way I can, but as far as I'm concerned, I cant. Anyway, thats off topic, this rifle is great, cheap, and the way the grip is, I can have a detachable magazine. That might be useful for competitions if I set my get to it and join one, and, I can use the mags from my AR! Nice review
I own one of these rifles. It took three trips back to the factory to get it to quit separating shells. A broken shell extractor is always in my bag when I take it out.
I went into a local gunshop(Wild Indian Gun Co)and asked if they had a sub2000 in 9MM.the guy working the counter said no we can't keep them in stock and we have a Just right(JR) carbine.in 9 MM.I asked him if he had a SU16c and he told me he got three in and this was the last one.I put it on layaway and i'm gonna bite the bullet(pun intended) and pick it up tomorrow..The weight difference was very noticeable and the price also the JR was 649 and the su was 599.I have a Ruger SR9 and the mags...
hey nutfancy what i do with my gun is i got 200 rounds of AP rounds witch is great for vids 100 round beta mags are fun for vids i got this gun/beta mag/200 rounds of AP rounds for only 800$ with the ar-15 or m-16 is insane prics to buy this is the gun you want
An Ak47 for $1000? Where are you getting your AK man? No where have I seen an AK for that much, I bought my Saiga AK47 (7.62x39) for $450 NEW. The absolute MOST ive seen one for is $550.
@toxictiger1987 No offence but he's not buying a low end Saiga for $500. Do some research man. You will see there are MANY companies that make AK/AR's and most are FAR better than anything shipped in like the lower end guns. Im not sayin they won't work.. but Buy once, Cry once.
@THEKOOL4iDMAN697 As long as you pick the right ammunition, yes, with a bullet like the trophy bonded bear claw, Barnes X bullet, or Swift sirocco, somthing thats bonded, and will stay together to penetrate deep enough to do damage, yes, it will. (Many a deer have been killed with a 223, as always, shot placement is the most important thing, make you sure you hit)
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH why don't you take your yuppy ass and go to britain, even the cops aren't allowed to carry there, you can be nice and happy knowing only the criminals have the guns they illegally snuck in, so even the police can't protect you.
@TR5T it wont happen as long as people stay smart and DONT LET IT HAPPEN. i dont know why people think they can march into our homes and take OUR guns. we paid for em, we have the 2nd amendment assuring us it wont be infringed, and if they do infringe it, what are they gonna do? we the people of the united states have more small arms than the united states military 25times over.
fuck why did i come on nutn's page. now ima end up wanting one now. cause of him i bought my first gun a ruger sr9 two months ago. last week i just bought a 10/22 ati strikeforce stock. he's making me go broke. i've been avoiding the ar15 video by him lol
Awesome Nutnfancy, Just picked up a brand new SU-16B (the "C" model is nowhere to be found). I was nervous about the smaller barrel and found that this version is still easily shooting 2-3 moa with cheaper ammo even when warm and should make for a great survival rifle, can't wait to reload for the beast. Way to go KelTec!
@MafiaGENGTEAM1970 Where do you get your information Ma?!? How about you listen to folks that own the su-16's, and bail the negativity BS coming out of your mouth.
A matter of fact, all the talk that the su-16's would break and be crappy has faded away, and the reliability of these fun rifles are becoming more and more known.
Why, do you have one? A couple of them maybe? I do.
Although I see where you are coming from with your "more guns is good guns", the statistics regarding gun crimes and other crimes in the US compared to the rest of the world kind of disagree with you, don't they?
Most Europeans don't consume hundreds kilos of cocaine a day, sadly Americans do.
The most wealthy criminal organizations in the world fill that demand and sadly they are located in South America- as long as there are drugs to be used bad guys will buy whatever they want.
POW are considered prisoners will escape where they are then considered spies.... tough being captured... escape gives them reason to kill you legally...
@AbingtonAudio I heard from a person who owns one of these that one of the types can fire while folded and others just fold for being compact but can't fire while folded. Don't know which are which though as that's why I'm watching the video to learn. I have shot literally one round through one like this heh.
I've been looking at this rifle, thinking that I might get it as my first one. Would that be a good choice of rifle? As well, is there any way to put a pistol grip on it, and would that be illegal anywhere other than CA?
you do great reviews on the type of gun talked about , but the cost depends onwhere you live i'll get this brand new for lesss than 475 with permits and clips and a good pile of ammo but your doing awesome job if your ever in texas and im serious and wanna go boar hunting talk to me i live in bettwenn sanantonio and corpus near goliad
I happened to stop by my local gun shop today, and i saw this rifle for sale on the rack. I must admit that i was a bit excited because i have always thought they were cool, and this could be my chance to own one. Sooo... i asked to handle the weapon, and this is when i noticed the price. They wanted 720$!! i couldn't believe it... i could get a sick AK for that! not all gun shops are equal!
I like your vids. I think people get bored with all the talking but I like the explanations. What about the Saiga rifles in comparison to this or the mini-14?
I know you take a lot of flak for your reviews from thousands of people, but thanks. You have cemented my want of this rifle. I just don't like the AR platform and this is an alternative that costs half of that. One fellow Utahn to another, you sir are awesome.
@cobyson100 I've had 5 different KT weapons with several thousand rounds downrange from every one of them (including an SU-16), and have had no problems whatsoever. On top of that, the incredible customer service we experience in this hobby? KT did it first and set the bar HIGH for all the other companies.
@cobyson100 I've tried Hi-points twice as purchases, wasn't happy either time. Plus, my Sub2K takes Glock 22 mags and folds in half. It's a more expensive gun but in this case you get what you pay for. I believe nowadays the SU-16 comes with a chrome lined barrel and chamber as well, bonus.
I know plenty of people who love their hipoint carbines though, I just don't like them. They're bulky and heavy and don't accept any mags but the hipoint ones, which aren't common like a glock.
@Maat922 Dude, are you Sarah Palin....your Sub2k takes Glock 22 mags????? What the hell does that have to do with the quality of the brand? People love their hipoint carbines? Well I guess they love their Yugo's, their Pacer's and anything else they have on blocks in front of their trashed mobile homes too....dude, seriously...this is nonsense. Stupid is what Stupid does and Stupid buy's a hi-point or Kel-Tec and then defends it.
@Maat922 The problem here is that Nutfnfancy is fantastic reviewer and does a great job evaluating a number of different products. HOWEVER, in order to truly test the reliability and ruggedness of a firearm it takes more than a day on the range and TENS OF THOUSANDS of rounds. The fact is that the reason kt's can sell for less is because the overall quality of the weapon is inferior..metallurgy, machining, DEFINITELY quality control. Let's see how the KT's hold up in a real rigorous test.
@cobyson100 Well, I can account for over 10,000 rounds (about exactly, have to look it up) out of my Sub2K in .40 and not a single thing has gone wrong with it at all (not even the hinge-catch part, which I had reservations about when I bought it myself). I had 6,420 rounds through my SU-16 when I sold it, and it had a defective mag (replaced with 2 free ones next-day-air) as it's ONLY problem. It was one of the first ones they sold. I sold it to build my first AR, now I miss it a lot.
@MaxAC40 The only drawback to the SU-16 is recoil. For a .223 it bites quite a little bit! A .308 would slaughter your shoulder in short order lol. Damned goos idea with a really, really good buttpad though for sure. I doubt they'd ever cut into their own business with the RFB though.
@XCVGVCX zombie is a polite term to replace HUMAN targets. In reality the biggest threat to humans are other humans. Good luck, God bless and keep you guns clean
Ilove your videos but in my opinion kel-tecs suck, I had a su-16 and i was shooting in and it started to smoke and i owned a kel-tec p32 and it would lock open after a couple of mags i put through it but this is just my opinion!
I just got this! 200 rounds and couldnt be happyer. selling piont is i have made a 1/4 steel box (welded in)that in back of my jeep wrangler. This is small enough. To have it stored safe! when i run into a am/pm for the road snacks... on that trip. CA aproved!
Love the vids. But you americans(republicans) just got to admit it´s maybe 20% about the constitution, protecting your neighbourhood etc and 80% love for guns. :)
@joelffs There are Democrats who are pro gun too as crazy as that is to believe. There are people in the gay community that love guns also (The Pink Pistols). I am a registered Independent who feels that both sides have their agenda and I carry and shoot firearms. It's not just die hard Republicans. I think I speak for a lot of people that yeah, we that collect and shoot love guns but we also believe in protecting ourselves and our families just as much if not more.
@joelffs we do love the guns....but you are wrong. It's 100% about protecting our family and our constitution. making bullets fly is fun, but the love of country, bill of rights, and protecting family is deadly serious.
We defended those rights against the Redcoats by force of arms.
Interesting....in the intro of this vid, I noticed Nutn was using his middle finger for his trigger finger...Never seen that before....Why? Just curious....
Agree on Gun in home issue :) Just make sure every one knows gun safety rules and Knows them WELL. I got tired of looking for a AR with a price range below 600! or even a Mini 14 below that. I see these (not so often I remind you) for around $450 When another presents itself I think I will jump on that offer
AR bolt with the AK gas system runs really clean,which makes it very reliable.Its superlight which is great for a high powered tactical carbine or a pack/survival gun.Downside is a heavy trigger pull and the light weight make it tough to shoot tight groups,but then again its not a long range sniper rifle.Nutnfancey has done a great job describing this gun as i own it. Pros and cons are as he describes.
I went with an M-4 size AR15 for my end of the world rifle, but I wonder if something as light as the SU16 would have been better. The local shop owner is a bit of a snob and doesn't carry KT.
The Beretta carbine is very light, but is pistol caliber and runs over $700.
I can't tell you how many times i've been searching through videos on YouTube, unknowingly click on a Nutnfancy video and end up staying to watch the whole thing!
no why do you ask?
paintwastermini 4 days ago
this guy is fucking dumb...he has no idea what he is talking about half the time.
paintwastermini 6 days ago
@paintwastermini are you retarded?
GUNSnGEAR1 5 days ago
is there a compatible version in 7.62x39?
Grizzy2011 1 week ago
C-141? really???
elmo82987 1 week ago
Is the Kel-Tec SU-16c a reliable weapon out of the box, or does it require a break in? And, what do people suggest, 5.56 or the AK round? Thank you:
Dan
dankardas 2 weeks ago
"guys losin' their jobs, that doesn't mean they don't need good home defence"
Yeah, they need it for revolution, at a price a teenager can afford. lol.
ButtersGettingHard 3 weeks ago
Lemons .223 and 5.56 are the same ammo
avukinightmare 1 month ago
@avukinightmare dimensions are the same. charge isnn't
513Scotchpagan 1 month ago
On the short list.
PracticallyCorrect 1 month ago
I know these are chambered for .223 but how would it handle 5.56? (The 5.56 is alot hotter of a load then the .223)...
lemmonsinmyeyes 1 month ago
I'm doing similar videos, with exploding targets. I could use some support, if you wouldnt mind stopping by to leave some feedback.
Echocdeath 1 month ago
does the particality of the su 16c dominate the mini14 in terms of cost and reliability?
jigglejack100 1 month ago
preferably several....
SuperMeganax 1 month ago
su-16c, ak-47 or 74, or a sub 2000, wondering would i should get because all of them I can fight in my pack (ak might need a folding stock), thus getting to good open shooting areas is easier. the su-16 is light and accurate, ak has that cool factor which makes me want it, and the sub 2000 is the lightest and easiest to carry but lacks range. dam tough choices.
TheSolitaryTraveller 1 month ago
@TheSolitaryTraveller what do you want it for? sub 2000 is my favorite home defense gun and its very fun my ak is fun and is just cool factor and i dont own the su16.
tfoshohoe 1 month ago
@tfoshohoe already got an ak, but I was looking for something easy to pack away thus getting into into a good shooting area is easier.
TheSolitaryTraveller 1 month ago
Also, you can buy a Saiga AK variant for about $360 just about anywhere in America, and it's a great gun, especially for the money.......
HighlanderNorth1 1 month ago
You said that you can't buy an AK 47 for under $1000.........
Maybe there are some countries where guns are illegal and rare, so you must pay a premium and buy it through the black market,
But in America, you can EASILY get an AK for under $400!
I really dont know anyone here that would pay $1000 or more for an AK, unless they simply want to get ripped off!
HighlanderNorth1 1 month ago
@HighlanderNorth1 Yeah in Canada they are illegal, nothing full auto is allowed. All black semi ARs are restricted meaning you need a special license and the ARs that you can buy without the special license are minimum $1800. You are lucky my friend.
andrewdoyle88 1 month ago
@HighlanderNorth1 He meant good AKs not crappy wasrs or other century arms crap
Kylef7735 3 weeks ago
@Kylef7735 actually you can get a saiga ak47 for $500...
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@JugBrothers That isnt an AK
He was slightly off on the prices, 750 is the minimum you can pay for the Ak he reccomends, the Arsenal SGL series
Kylef7735 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 lol dude saiga is the original ak47 its made in the izhmash weapons plant where the russian military makes there weapons theres the saiga 12k 12 gauge semi automatic which can actually run about 500-600 dollars and the saiga 410 shotgun which runs about the same but im talking about the saiga 7.65x39 im actually gonna get one its the original ak47 its ak47 platform its one of the best AK's around....
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@JugBrothers Saigas are not original aks, they have had tons of parts changed out to make them "Sporting" and therefore legal to import. They are as much like an Ak as a browning BAR or the kel tec featured in this video.
And if youre all about the saigas, Check the arsenal saigas, they have had all the crap "Sporting" parts replaced with the originals, and i believe the SGLs are the rebuilt saigas.
Kylef7735 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 that's the gun i'm talking about not the crap sporterized ones the ak build pistol grip one thats capable of high capacity magazines.. trust me man i wouldn't buy a crap california gun with a 10 round magazine.... i'm from colorado here we try to buy top notch stuff....
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@JugBrothers And might i ask Where you are going to get one of those FULLY original in america?
Trick question cause they Do Not allow importation of fully original unmodified Saiga AKs into america.
The closest you will get is one of the arsenals.
Kylef7735 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 no its not completely original all parts are original other than reciever so its 922r complient dude.... you cant even have a fully original ak47 i mean made in the original factory....
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@JugBrothers
Saigas are 100% original.
Just restore one back to how it should be. If you check on Izhmash's non-US site, you'll see the saiga rifles in their correct configurations, and realize they're just non-automatic versions of the typical AK, using pretty much all the same parts.
I have a restored saiga 308 running a PK-AS and it's a FANTASTIC gun, after a little buffing on the internals it runs smoother than any AR15.
skyhop 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 but i think i might get this instead i'm going back and forth on the ak47 saiga or the sterling carbine just cause of the ammo being cheaper
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@JugBrothers Get an AK in 5.45, you can find the ammo for under 200 for 2000
Kylef7735 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 but saigas or made in the izhmash weapons plant where they make the millitary ones just semi auto version is what i'm getting its gonna be fun...
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 and by the way i'm not saying the kel-tec guns are bad in anyway i'm a big fan of them i just really want to get myself an original russian saiga ak47...
JugBrothers 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 7.62x39* typo
JugBrothers 1 week ago
Would the durability compare to that of the AK platform?
RosieKR 1 month ago
@nutnfancy it's California legal!! YES!!!
paintball626 1 month ago
Bought it for backpacking the in Canadian wilderness - love it! Thanks for turning me on to this system Nutn!
NDTTech192 2 months ago
Anyone looking at this rifle should know this is one bad little muther.Keltec has this in a pistol and 5.56 caliber too.Basically a no stock, shorter barrel in the PLR16.Thats got to be devasting but i own a SU16c and i love it.
onebigkahuna69 2 months ago
I live up in Canada and apparently we got the SU-16F and I have been stock-piling LAR-15 mags since for whatever reason the RCMP deemed those legal 10rd mags (all other auto mags are pinned to 5rd) and I have been looking into non-restricted .223/5.56mm semi-auto rifles that accept STENAG magazines and as I have heard/read the SU-16F accepts a STENAG magazine but my question was what is the key differences between the SU-16F and the SU-16C?
pickinthatbanjo 2 months ago
You make the best videos, you've helped immensely on my firearm decisions. I love your politics too, they're so right!
dschinkal 2 months ago
I live in California. This rifle gets around many of the stupid 'assault rifle' bans because it has no pistol grip. Of course the 10 round magazine rule still applies in CA. As soon as I can get the money, I am going to buy this rifle to appease my shooting needs until I move away (I'm 18, attending college, but plan to transfer to the midwest my junior year). Thank you Nut'n for the great video, as always
nreedbuffalo 2 months ago
Seems like this would be a great "side arm" for a sniper load out, when a handgun isn't a possibility. plus when stock is folded should be able to fit in a large size pack.
TheSolitaryTraveller 2 months ago
sorry, of course i asked a ? which you adressed, lol!
dankardas 2 months ago
@dankardas my bad, didnt see the second comment :P
HippieHunta 2 months ago
Nutnfancy, just to be clear, this has the ak gas system, correct? Thank you, great video. I am thinking of purchasing this weapon.
dankardas 2 months ago
@dankardas its very similar in design to the ak system. its a long stroke piston.
HippieHunta 2 months ago
@dankardas It is a Long Stroke Gas Piston System, the same as the ak
Kylef7735 3 weeks ago
California is not a Socialist state: Us Socialists support 2A rights. California is a bribery laden Republican powered disaster and has been for 30 years.
Speaking as an Armed Democratic Socialist
neothespian 3 months ago
@neothespian You have got to be kidding me. The Dems own and run the state of California.
CDMJDMHHC 1 month ago
@CDMJDMHHC Actually, Republicans have full control of California, and have for a while now. And, not all Liberals and Democrats are anti-gun. In fact, I'm a proud Liberal AND gun owner, and there are A LOT of us! Many don't say much because the extremist NRA types give all gun owners a bad name and make us look unstable. California's gun laws are a result of programs started by Regan, not by "Dems". Gun control has been enacted by more Conservative politicians than Liberal
neothespian 1 month ago
@neothespian ya and pigs will fly out of my but,
CDMJDMHHC 1 month ago
@neothespian I agree completely. The Republicans LOVE to put it in your head that librals want to "TAKE ALL YOUR GUNS AWAY" OOooh. Look at the print objectively and it's clear that some libs are anti-gun, but more than half don't want to TOUCH any firearms laws. I'm a gun-toting, active hunting and drilling Liberal. I'm NOT alone. It's silly to just be brainwashed into everything you hear. But it's been an effective tool in the Conservative arsenal to use this anit lib influence
jdseams 1 month ago
Nutnfancy could you make this video playable on the mobile devices?
my phone won;t let me watch it! wah wah wahhh..
Nexgcs 3 months ago
I saw the PLR-16 on the ad for Kel Tec, would like to see a video from you maybe comparing PLR-16 with the PLR-22 or maybe against other SBR/Long-barreled pistols..would be pretty awesome
bubbabeau07 3 months ago
I'd just like to say that I think nutnfancy's videos are terrific. I am a proud firearm owner in Canada and I find his videos are always informative but you don't fall asleep watching them like many others, he keeps your attention in a casual but professional manner.
Nutnfancy, thank you for making great videos. For the record, I plan on purchasing a SU-16 in the next coming months in the Great White North.
Cheers.
berlinermann 3 months ago
They're worse than idiots theyre ignorant, stupid people can be be educated and learn why things make sense
skullpheonix6 3 months ago
How would you rate a dpms panther arm's ar-15. I bought mine for $700. How does it hold up with other's?
smittysmithism 3 months ago
make it happin and get back to ur family ... haha great quote ... love the vids evan though ur sister said u dont respond i got my wife a mini 14 thinkin bout one of these now ...
puffispuff 3 months ago
Picking up one of these this week for my first rifle. Pretty excited.
CaspeRinHD 3 months ago
I just bought mine today!!! $580. I could by 3 of these for the price of any brand name AR-15 !!
ashkaji 3 months ago
@ashkaji U can buy a Standard Dpsm Oracle A15 for 580.00 on budsgunshop
hutningnola 3 months ago
this vid is so funny now that we all know what he did in the airforce, he pretty much tells you in this vid.
P226nut 4 months ago in playlist Kel-Tec Firearms Reviewed by Nutnfancy
Do you think an ar15 mag well grip will fit on this rifle? The mag wells look similar, and it looks very hard to control with an open bipod with not much to grab onto other than the mag.
utfanx2 4 months ago
Oh yeah, and does anyone have the rail kit for this, and is it any good? If it is, I might consider getting one if I buy the rifle, not that it would really do much in California, because I don't believe you can have a detachable magazine with any sort of vertical grip. Which makes me wonder if the Magoul AFG would work... sorry for all the questions, again, nice review!
riflesofallcalibers 4 months ago
Im thinking of getting one of these because here in California (don't get me wrong, I love it here) I cant have a detachable magazine on my pistol gripped AR. Now I'm sure someone is going to argue that there is some way I can, but as far as I'm concerned, I cant. Anyway, thats off topic, this rifle is great, cheap, and the way the grip is, I can have a detachable magazine. That might be useful for competitions if I set my get to it and join one, and, I can use the mags from my AR! Nice review
riflesofallcalibers 4 months ago
I own one of these rifles. It took three trips back to the factory to get it to quit separating shells. A broken shell extractor is always in my bag when I take it out.
TheWhiteCause 4 months ago
What do you think about using this rifle in, say, a kayak in a WROL bugout situation?
91Roadwarrior 4 months ago
I went into a local gunshop(Wild Indian Gun Co)and asked if they had a sub2000 in 9MM.the guy working the counter said no we can't keep them in stock and we have a Just right(JR) carbine.in 9 MM.I asked him if he had a SU16c and he told me he got three in and this was the last one.I put it on layaway and i'm gonna bite the bullet(pun intended) and pick it up tomorrow..The weight difference was very noticeable and the price also the JR was 649 and the su was 599.I have a Ruger SR9 and the mags...
onebigkahuna69 4 months ago
The barrel on the "B" is thinner than a supermodel's waist.
SuperRip7 4 months ago
nutnfancy should be funded by the government
thisisyourgrandma 5 months ago
wait wait wait did you call me a sheep dog?
matthew3558 5 months ago
Ohhh Kel Tec, all they're models are so modern. Most are made out of polymer plastic, but ask your self, is that really a bad thing?
MrParkinthedark 5 months ago
hey nutfancy what i do with my gun is i got 200 rounds of AP rounds witch is great for vids 100 round beta mags are fun for vids i got this gun/beta mag/200 rounds of AP rounds for only 800$ with the ar-15 or m-16 is insane prics to buy this is the gun you want
matthew3558 5 months ago
gonna do a review on the kel-tec sub2000?
LeonRFpoa 5 months ago
An Ak47 for $1000? Where are you getting your AK man? No where have I seen an AK for that much, I bought my Saiga AK47 (7.62x39) for $450 NEW. The absolute MOST ive seen one for is $550.
toxictiger1987 5 months ago
@toxictiger1987 No offence but he's not buying a low end Saiga for $500. Do some research man. You will see there are MANY companies that make AK/AR's and most are FAR better than anything shipped in like the lower end guns. Im not sayin they won't work.. but Buy once, Cry once.
FrancisPennySac 5 months ago in playlist Rifles and Carbines Reviewed by Nutnfancy
i like the mini 14 instead of m16
seoulkidd1 6 months ago
Su-16 or Sub-2000 ._. ???
BxLxUxExxAxNxGxExL5 6 months ago
Hey Nutn thanks for the videos! Are you sure your not secretly a salesmen? You seem to be doing a good job of it either way.
sharadeth 6 months ago
what would be better to get a glock 17 or a su 16
50TNCSA 6 months ago
@50TNCSA
Do you want to carry a gun for self defence in public or have a police grade tactical rifle for SHTF/ WROL
IMHO i think that you should have a tactical rifle in either .223 or 7.62, a pistol, a shotgun, and a .22 rifle but thats not just me...
TheTha7thTrump 6 months ago
What's the name of the gun above your Su-16's?
Lud0zify 7 months ago
@Lud0zify that would be the ruger mini 14.. or the glock
darkninja225 7 months ago
@Lud0zify thats a mini 14 by ruger
jimmyhoffa9 6 months ago
where can I get this in Canada
geko64 7 months ago
@geko64 Go to Vault Distribution's website, they're the main distributor to the retailers up here.
RabbidRacer24 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Maybe I'm a retard." lol
kjjjkjjjkjjjk 7 months ago
question, would this be a good hunting weapon?
THEKOOL4iDMAN697 8 months ago
@THEKOOL4iDMAN697 What are you hunting?
Kylef7735 7 months ago
@Kylef7735 Hogs
THEKOOL4iDMAN697 7 months ago
@THEKOOL4iDMAN697 As long as you pick the right ammunition, yes, with a bullet like the trophy bonded bear claw, Barnes X bullet, or Swift sirocco, somthing thats bonded, and will stay together to penetrate deep enough to do damage, yes, it will. (Many a deer have been killed with a 223, as always, shot placement is the most important thing, make you sure you hit)
Kylef7735 7 months ago
@Kylef7735 awesome thanks man :)
THEKOOL4iDMAN697 7 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH why don't you take your yuppy ass and go to britain, even the cops aren't allowed to carry there, you can be nice and happy knowing only the criminals have the guns they illegally snuck in, so even the police can't protect you.
gun control is hitting your target.
Fearlessmoto 8 months ago
@Fearlessmoto As a US/UK citizen I was there when the government confiscated weapons. The incident at Dunblane was the excuse.
Logic present in the mind of these idiots and those of the same here in the US would assume that gun crime ceased following this.
Contrary to that presumption gun crime went up! There was a semi gag order to under report gun crime as not to cause public distrust.
Go to Daily Mail newspaper each day, see the tragedy this has led to. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN HERE!!
TR5T 8 months ago
@TR5T it wont happen as long as people stay smart and DONT LET IT HAPPEN. i dont know why people think they can march into our homes and take OUR guns. we paid for em, we have the 2nd amendment assuring us it wont be infringed, and if they do infringe it, what are they gonna do? we the people of the united states have more small arms than the united states military 25times over.
joshkkv 7 months ago
fuck why did i come on nutn's page. now ima end up wanting one now. cause of him i bought my first gun a ruger sr9 two months ago. last week i just bought a 10/22 ati strikeforce stock. he's making me go broke. i've been avoiding the ar15 video by him lol
blaziankhmer 8 months ago
Awesome Nutnfancy, Just picked up a brand new SU-16B (the "C" model is nowhere to be found). I was nervous about the smaller barrel and found that this version is still easily shooting 2-3 moa with cheaper ammo even when warm and should make for a great survival rifle, can't wait to reload for the beast. Way to go KelTec!
TheObscureM 8 months ago
wow ALLLLLLLLLLLL Kel-Tec GUN LOOK CHEAP PLASTIC 1: 11. DON'T BUY CHEAP PLASTIC Kel-Tec
MafiaGENGTEAM1970 8 months ago
@MafiaGENGTEAM1970 DUMBASS.
Timothyk84 7 months ago
@MafiaGENGTEAM1970 Someone has no idea what they are talking about.....
Kylef7735 7 months ago
@MafiaGENGTEAM1970 Where do you get your information Ma?!? How about you listen to folks that own the su-16's, and bail the negativity BS coming out of your mouth.
A matter of fact, all the talk that the su-16's would break and be crappy has faded away, and the reliability of these fun rifles are becoming more and more known.
Why, do you have one? A couple of them maybe? I do.
Good info, good job Nutn!!
FrikinTastik 7 months ago 2
Any one who said Columbine and Virginia Tech were examples of America's safety is an idiot...
bunnylegend 8 months ago
Although I see where you are coming from with your "more guns is good guns", the statistics regarding gun crimes and other crimes in the US compared to the rest of the world kind of disagree with you, don't they?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 9 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH
Most Europeans don't consume hundreds kilos of cocaine a day, sadly Americans do.
The most wealthy criminal organizations in the world fill that demand and sadly they are located in South America- as long as there are drugs to be used bad guys will buy whatever they want.
Location, location, location.
dukenukemthreed 8 months ago
POW are considered prisoners will escape where they are then considered spies.... tough being captured... escape gives them reason to kill you legally...
floted 9 months ago
Nut'n, go check dunhams, 500 for an ak... a decent ak. They tend to be the polish or warsaw ones but still.
dingoman 9 months ago
I love how i can own this even if there is an AR ban like what we have in Chicago
williamED15 9 months ago
Im sold, price seems right and i really like how easy it would be to put optics on it. If i could only find one.
Bodacious406 9 months ago
Got my su-16a because of this video. Thanks!
r134568 9 months ago
In California, the Su16C costs $680 I just checked today.
Chevenitsu 9 months ago
what about an sks
codyaustinpemberton 9 months ago
@codyaustinpemberton
They're nice, sturdy guns, but both the gun and the ammo are a bit on the heavy side.
UCSPanther20 9 months ago
whit presen with the gun? can the mexican or other countries
tutravieso10 9 months ago
In your opinion would this gun be light weight and compact?
:)
Great video...you sold me on it..Plan to get a CA because I like the fuller stock.
AbingtonAudio 10 months ago
@AbingtonAudio I heard from a person who owns one of these that one of the types can fire while folded and others just fold for being compact but can't fire while folded. Don't know which are which though as that's why I'm watching the video to learn. I have shot literally one round through one like this heh.
ThePopeAndy 9 months ago
I've been looking at this rifle, thinking that I might get it as my first one. Would that be a good choice of rifle? As well, is there any way to put a pistol grip on it, and would that be illegal anywhere other than CA?
Akeroh626 10 months ago
you do great reviews on the type of gun talked about , but the cost depends onwhere you live i'll get this brand new for lesss than 475 with permits and clips and a good pile of ammo but your doing awesome job if your ever in texas and im serious and wanna go boar hunting talk to me i live in bettwenn sanantonio and corpus near goliad
bigwillakingkilla 10 months ago
I happened to stop by my local gun shop today, and i saw this rifle for sale on the rack. I must admit that i was a bit excited because i have always thought they were cool, and this could be my chance to own one. Sooo... i asked to handle the weapon, and this is when i noticed the price. They wanted 720$!! i couldn't believe it... i could get a sick AK for that! not all gun shops are equal!
MrAsundstrom 10 months ago
I like your vids. I think people get bored with all the talking but I like the explanations. What about the Saiga rifles in comparison to this or the mini-14?
captainpegs07 10 months ago
I know you take a lot of flak for your reviews from thousands of people, but thanks. You have cemented my want of this rifle. I just don't like the AR platform and this is an alternative that costs half of that. One fellow Utahn to another, you sir are awesome.
NorthRainProductions 10 months ago
more guns is good guns! leads to more saftey more peace. anybody who says otherwise is an IDIOT! YES YES YES BOOOOOOYAH! shabam!
havenp01 10 months ago
i got a romanian ak47 for $400 but it was from my uncle
metallicafan3113 10 months ago
I just don't believe in price point brands like a Kel-Tec; ALWAYS issues with them. With firearms, more time than not, you get what you pay for.
cobyson100 11 months ago
@cobyson100 I've had 5 different KT weapons with several thousand rounds downrange from every one of them (including an SU-16), and have had no problems whatsoever. On top of that, the incredible customer service we experience in this hobby? KT did it first and set the bar HIGH for all the other companies.
Maat922 11 months ago
@Maat922 How come I get the feeling that if you had purchased a Hi-Point...you'd still be defending the purchase. Buyer pride is a terrible thing.
cobyson100 11 months ago
@cobyson100 I've tried Hi-points twice as purchases, wasn't happy either time. Plus, my Sub2K takes Glock 22 mags and folds in half. It's a more expensive gun but in this case you get what you pay for. I believe nowadays the SU-16 comes with a chrome lined barrel and chamber as well, bonus.
I know plenty of people who love their hipoint carbines though, I just don't like them. They're bulky and heavy and don't accept any mags but the hipoint ones, which aren't common like a glock.
Maat922 11 months ago
@Maat922 Dude, are you Sarah Palin....your Sub2k takes Glock 22 mags????? What the hell does that have to do with the quality of the brand? People love their hipoint carbines? Well I guess they love their Yugo's, their Pacer's and anything else they have on blocks in front of their trashed mobile homes too....dude, seriously...this is nonsense. Stupid is what Stupid does and Stupid buy's a hi-point or Kel-Tec and then defends it.
cobyson100 11 months ago
@cobyson100 Ok, I'll feed the troll...what would you recommend? Perhaps an EDC M249? A little heavy for a camp-gun, but I can see the logic.
By the way, you're on nutnfancy's channel, and he, as well as a shit ton of his viewers, "defend" just about every KT purchase they've ever made.
Back under the C.O.D. rock you go. SHOO!
Maat922 11 months ago
@Maat922 The problem here is that Nutfnfancy is fantastic reviewer and does a great job evaluating a number of different products. HOWEVER, in order to truly test the reliability and ruggedness of a firearm it takes more than a day on the range and TENS OF THOUSANDS of rounds. The fact is that the reason kt's can sell for less is because the overall quality of the weapon is inferior..metallurgy, machining, DEFINITELY quality control. Let's see how the KT's hold up in a real rigorous test.
cobyson100 11 months ago
@cobyson100 Well, I can account for over 10,000 rounds (about exactly, have to look it up) out of my Sub2K in .40 and not a single thing has gone wrong with it at all (not even the hinge-catch part, which I had reservations about when I bought it myself). I had 6,420 rounds through my SU-16 when I sold it, and it had a defective mag (replaced with 2 free ones next-day-air) as it's ONLY problem. It was one of the first ones they sold. I sold it to build my first AR, now I miss it a lot.
Maat922 11 months ago
@Maat922 Sure.
cobyson100 11 months ago
SU-16D is looking good! A nice alternative to a Mini-14
liveecarbme 11 months ago
@liveecarbme dont get a mini!
u will regret it! yes they are fun little rifle but not really accurate...
onehitkill 11 months ago
What scope rings u running?
407ForRent 11 months ago
Zombie survival rifle?
XCVGVCX 11 months ago 47
4.7 lbs... they should make a .308 version with metric fal mags.
a .308 that's not 9-10 lbs would be nice.
MaxAC40 11 months ago
@MaxAC40 The only drawback to the SU-16 is recoil. For a .223 it bites quite a little bit! A .308 would slaughter your shoulder in short order lol. Damned goos idea with a really, really good buttpad though for sure. I doubt they'd ever cut into their own business with the RFB though.
Maat922 11 months ago
@Maat922 yeah, true. That's a good point.
I'd still like to see a lightweight .308... the standard ~10lbers are just a hassle.
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ruger scout looked great in 2011's shot show booth, but I'd just like to see a semi rather than bolt to compete with the m1a.
MaxAC40 11 months ago
@MaxAC40 They make their RFB thats 7.5
Kylef7735 10 months ago
@XCVGVCX Lol
DominekeBear 10 months ago
@XCVGVCX zombie is a polite term to replace HUMAN targets. In reality the biggest threat to humans are other humans. Good luck, God bless and keep you guns clean
ViolentEncounter 4 months ago
@XCVGVCX Mosin Nagant would give the SU-16C a run for its money in that regard.
SeikanJax 4 months ago in playlist Rifles and Carbines Reviewed by Nutnfancy
DAMN NUTNFANCY IS A COOL GUY!!!SUCH GOOD REVIEWS!!
offmynutz9000 11 months ago
@offmynutz9000 you want to suck his dick dont you?
he does good vids but u went a lil over board..
onehitkill 11 months ago
Ilove your videos but in my opinion kel-tecs suck, I had a su-16 and i was shooting in and it started to smoke and i owned a kel-tec p32 and it would lock open after a couple of mags i put through it but this is just my opinion!
chocodiesiocho 11 months ago
I just got this! 200 rounds and couldnt be happyer. selling piont is i have made a 1/4 steel box (welded in)that in back of my jeep wrangler. This is small enough. To have it stored safe! when i run into a am/pm for the road snacks... on that trip. CA aproved!
jerryleethe1 1 year ago
What Kind Of Mags Does Thig gun Take?
Could I Use A PMAG With This?
DaRealRonDeezy 1 year ago
@DaRealRonDeezy Yes, You can see NutnFancy using a Pmag in the video.
paperkiller25 1 year ago
Love the vids. But you americans(republicans) just got to admit it´s maybe 20% about the constitution, protecting your neighbourhood etc and 80% love for guns. :)
joelffs 1 year ago
@joelffs There are Democrats who are pro gun too as crazy as that is to believe. There are people in the gay community that love guns also (The Pink Pistols). I am a registered Independent who feels that both sides have their agenda and I carry and shoot firearms. It's not just die hard Republicans. I think I speak for a lot of people that yeah, we that collect and shoot love guns but we also believe in protecting ourselves and our families just as much if not more.
lidrum4u 1 year ago 2
@joelffs we do love the guns....but you are wrong. It's 100% about protecting our family and our constitution. making bullets fly is fun, but the love of country, bill of rights, and protecting family is deadly serious.
We defended those rights against the Redcoats by force of arms.
TheMinzwa 11 months ago 26
got my saiga ak47, less than a year old, nib for $389. at a gunshow no less.
colinmoriarty 1 year ago
wat r u smoking i can buy a good iac ak47 for 550 at atlanticarms
mark16443 1 year ago
SU-16 delta is actually the lightest model
HLGSTEEL 1 year ago
If anyone thinks that drug dealers, rapists and murderers will surrender their arms when the second amendment is revoked they are stupid.
VinnyS914 1 year ago
Is there a Kel tec Su 16 E model that folds like an A model with a costume hand grip that allows the complete fold?
AlguienAlgarete 1 year ago
so the ca model is the one you have to get in california
bassnman420 1 year ago
Interesting....in the intro of this vid, I noticed Nutn was using his middle finger for his trigger finger...Never seen that before....Why? Just curious....
Jeenyus1983 1 year ago
SU-16C is a better buy, it doesn't use proprietary mags. AR mags will always be more available than a ruger Mini-14 magazine.
hydra046 1 year ago
How many guns do you personally own? I know that a lot of the guns you review are loaned to you
BlackSabbath1204 1 year ago
Damn hippies;
Agree on Gun in home issue :) Just make sure every one knows gun safety rules and Knows them WELL. I got tired of looking for a AR with a price range below 600! or even a Mini 14 below that. I see these (not so often I remind you) for around $450 When another presents itself I think I will jump on that offer
kevlarsniper1 1 year ago
Thanks Nutn, got a SU-16 thanks to you.
gaddywack 1 year ago 24
whats tnp
alexdaman8 1 year ago
@alexdaman8 The Nutnfancy Project
Kylef7735 1 year ago
i better see you the big screen this coming year NUT....make it happen captain
Special0ps7 1 year ago
AR bolt with the AK gas system runs really clean,which makes it very reliable.Its superlight which is great for a high powered tactical carbine or a pack/survival gun.Downside is a heavy trigger pull and the light weight make it tough to shoot tight groups,but then again its not a long range sniper rifle.Nutnfancey has done a great job describing this gun as i own it. Pros and cons are as he describes.
puckerfactor1 1 year ago
I have been looking at purchasing this gun for a couple of months. Your video has made up my mind in getting this rifle.
musclenut55 1 year ago
Importable to Socialist States like California..........So true
SonofAnarchyMC 1 year ago
The more nutnfancy videos I watch the less I am convinced he knows his stuff...
ap4thy1 1 year ago
I went with an M-4 size AR15 for my end of the world rifle, but I wonder if something as light as the SU16 would have been better. The local shop owner is a bit of a snob and doesn't carry KT.
The Beretta carbine is very light, but is pistol caliber and runs over $700.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
@Deep13Deep13Deep13 That beretta storm is way overpriced.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
@Kylef7735 Yup. I could have gone with a Ruger (now out of production), but I wanted one that shared mags. w/ the 92fs.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
@Deep13Deep13Deep13 Look into the keltec sub 2000, they have one that will take 92/m9 mags.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
I can't tell you how many times i've been searching through videos on YouTube, unknowingly click on a Nutnfancy video and end up staying to watch the whole thing!
MrCool63 1 year ago 2
I've looked at one of these at a local sporting goods store the butt stock and forearm seem kind of flimsy
dtq7388 1 year ago
'anybody that says otherwise is an idiot'!!! I love it!!!!!
netstepb 1 year ago
i dont have enough cabbage!
calkiot538 1 year ago