Fiat 1.8 16v oltre 250hp @ 10.000rpm Gulli Motori

[NesteHukka2]

No way 10000rpm! I'd say it is max 7500 rpm at the video.

[idusclothing]

does this have a stand alone ecu because if the itb's?

[diegomayan]

Para que muchos aprendan a carburar...

[TheSemresaka]

que animalada

[mustb18jdm]

no... a wannabe honda engine xD

[reddeamon1996]

con un  VW te dejo 3 cuadras atras

[E54patoquack]

qual è il modello del tuo dinamometro? Ho un uguale ma non so il modello.

[downonit22]

Rivals the 4age 20V Formula Atlantic? I love the powerful small 4 bangers that rev to the moon... They are so badass!!!!

[DaYtona124]

dios como respira me quita el aire

[UberWagen]

Some of the wierdest ITBs ive ever seen

[pommer3049]

how much will it kost me too make one like?

[MrMAISANO]

je cherche un bon moteur pour ma x 1.9

[sub1ful]

of which was withdrawn this engine?

[johosjokers]

Looks like 8 v head, aren't the intakes and exaust opposite on the 16v?

[ni99anugget]

@johosjokers clearly a twin cam so 16v head

[citydriver]

@ni99anugget not necessarily there are plenty twin cam 8V engines ford ran some in theyre rally cars in the early 70s but yeah THIS engine is 16v

[oddiosanto]

da 800 circa a 10000 fa gli stessi cavalli (250) non serve farlo girare a 10000

[poliuyttyrrr]

carburetor? 1:25?

[ni99anugget]

@poliuyttyrrr induvidual throttle bodies

[UNZI12]

la meccanica nei motori e' un dono di DIO e questo MOTORISTA e' la prova.........grande

[lombson]

wow ma di dove siete hihi?

[nightmathzombieethan]

Music.

[sciullo779]

god those itbs are sweet

[arolla1]

troppo bello

[DiabloGk]

Now the only thing to do is to put it on a cento

[buricio2211]

hahaha che cariola......!!!!!

[Pinin500]

Beats that agricultural turd from the trolling U.S the chevy V8...6 litres and 50bhp.

A similar lampredi engine of 1.8ltrs achieved 800bhp see Lancia ECV rally car..

Fu'king Yanks are everywhere, including afghanistan fukin Peasants..

[NotYour94Ranger]

@Pinin500 You're comparing a street engine (6L and 50HP) to a highly stressed racing engine with a turbo the size of jupiter.

[ivaszjukSandorAlex]

@NotYour94Ranger you right ! zhe old formula 1 was with 3L engines or 1,5liter turbo engines and bmw made an 1500bhp engine no shit.... from the 1series bmw 1500engine and a turbo that's bigger than the sun :D check it out it was real my father always used to say that rubo engine can be so powerful as we want but it's lifetime is short as hell!

[SpikeZeek]

That's one hell of a engine dyno,all mechanichal... not digital or computer

[racekarl]

@SpikeZeek Seriously beautiful room. I love the oversize gauge, makes the engine look like it's competing in some carnie strongman game.

[erroneousapostrophe]

@racekarl Your mom could bust that gauge! She was the strongest carnie.

[SummerConspiracy]

@racekarl

I like it. Old school, before all the computers and technological doodads. :)

[socleanmx6]

@thing503 because its 250hp out of 1.8 liters

[thing503]

I don't get it. Why is 250hp a big deal? I'm not trolling or anything, I just don't understand what's going on here. Is that a lot for this motor?

[Mtin80]

@thing503 It is quite impressive for such a small engine. Almost 140 hp/liter..

[thing503]

@Mtin80 Okay, you're right that is a lot. Just not familiar with a lot of motors besides American ones and some Japanese ones.

[LeanderB91]

@thing503 it is a lot for a naturally aspirated engine of such low displacement. No turbo, no supercharger. you could get more with a Wet nitrous kit but thats essentially cheating.

[gaston4040]

@thing503 a fiat 147 same block, standard gots 60hp 1.300cm3 and 8v SOHC x4 better here in argentina is very common engines like this with a oversized crank of fiat uno u can get 1800cm3. and for the 16v u can use the head of palio DOHC. u can spend like 6000uss easy or more only in 1 engine like this. the car weights 750kg or less (3kg/hp) example: here in argentina with a fiat 147 & 160 whp runs like a ferrari 355 f1 (12,6s) 1/4mille big deal? .com/watch?v=TqU85hDIx6U

[TheMattyboy20]

@thing503 my m8s car what is a 2.0L T and its a Vauxhall Astra VXR and that has 250hp

[Buco991]

i wonder can this fit in my bravo GT????

[1dockthorwho23]

I like the Dyno Also The idea Its making that Power.Love it. c]:-)

[1993z32]

what is that the da Vinci dyno?? 1482 special?

[maidiremirko]

sono 25kgm a 10.000 giri, giusto?

[JasonMann8]

Fukin nice man

[jarrus464]

an 8 injector setup would improve things further.

[mvp8839]

@jarrus464 or 4 big ones. :)

[epicsr]

And that, lads and gents, is tuning. 250 hp from a 1.8 with no turbo or supercharger. My congrats.

[mvp8839]

@epicsr that's pretty good.

[gm556]

250 hp v16 with the fuel economy of a 500 hp v8

[Idrinkhoppes]

@gm556 It's actually not a "v16" its an inline 4 cylinder with 4 valves per cylinder, hence 16v. Hope that helps.

[gm556]

@Idrinkhoppes oh i had no idea... hmm... this changes everything!

[subaruWRCimpreza]

TURBO SUX /// clasic tuning forever

[CosserBoy]

@subaruWRCimpreza You think them throttle bodies are classic?

[cossiepowered]

@CosserBoy `Those arent throttle bodies, thats a mechanical fuel injection setup, like a Lucas or a Kügelfisher system. It doesnt get more classic than this! :)

[ILOVEFIATBRAVA]

Forzza Italia

[santinoit]

... Bell' lavoro ragazzi, facciamo vivere le belle mecaniche Italiane.

[claci2003]

I need this engine in my Brava :D

[kiaganga]

6 'o'clock valve bounce!!!nice

[Veikra]

mmm slide carburators

[moonerdizzle]

@Veikra no my friend, thats EFI, you can see the injectors on the velocity stacks

[Veikra]

@moonerdizzle sshould have said slide trottle plate. Dunno why I said carburator since I didnt know if it was carburated or efi. Slide Throttle plates are nice (y)

[natjzam]

@moonerdizzle its actually Mfi not EFI, no electronics there mate

[moonerdizzle]

@natjzam i stand corrected. dont see too many vehicles with manual fuel injection out side of some hot rods and rat rods.

[Coyote27981]

@moonerdizzle Manual fuel injection?? would that be a guy pumping fuel manually :P

Its a mechanical fuel injection, most likely similar to a kugelfischer used in the 70s.

[moonerdizzle]

@Coyote27981 lol, sorry about that, it was a off day for me, one to many to drink while out in the garage.

[Coyote27981]

@moonerdizzle Manual fuel injection? would that be a guy pumping fuel manually?? mighty biceps he must have :P

Actually its mechanical fuel injection, most likely something similar to the Kugelfischer injections used in the 70s.

[Superraziel]

Aspirato è

[wprzykurw]

this is shit

[Aerolipe111]

o have the same engine on my car... it only goes around 135hp!

[scraech]

I would like to put this motor on a small boat as an inboard. like a 14' boat.

[seapeddler]

Perfect engine for an ultralight.

[alfistii1]

So many non Italian car owners slate Italian cars, spewing crap about rust and

flaky build and running costs, well i unfortunately was the same always fancied

an Alfa romeo but avoided and bought Audi's instead for the last 15 years, well i

now own 2x Alfa's a 156 2.0ltr twincam sportwagon in red (had it 4 yrs) and a GTV in red and both have been totally reliable and cost no more to own than my Audi's, i have wasted 15 years of automotive enjoyment the Alfa's are in a different league..

[alfistii1]

Fiat revolutionized diesel technology before selling the technology to Bosch, big

mistake.Italians are known for engine technology and its not without reason.

Also the most stylish cars come from Italy and Fiat like Alfa romeo, Lancia, Ferrari

Maserati all Italian blue chip brands the envy of the motoring world...

Myths like rust, build quality does not wash these days, Italian cars are no

different in running costs to any other cars...Forza Italia

[2jzgtejza80]

@alfistii1

Newer Alfas and Fiats are much better than before, no doubt.

Maserati and Ferrari are the same thing different skin. Lancia is best for me, specially legendary Lancia S4 from famous B Group and street versions HF Integrale.

[alfistii1]

Instead of focussing on one brand for a lifetime, which is a lifetime wasted if it's

a mundane car from germany (follow the herd). Try looking back at Fiats record

of engine builders and engine types, they are not agricultural junk like skoda, they

are state of the art technology especially for their time, v-tec came from Alfa/fiat

before Honda used the system followed by every other brand, the use of a

rubber cam belt came from Fiat first, Fiat revolutionized diesel technology.

[bernifreeride]

1:26 you can see throttle effect (joule-thomson effect) on a gas even with condensation. nice! nice engine sound too ;-)

[Emdcrp]

Yes is a Fiat engine.

[puntakias11]

that's AWES0ME!!!!! I wish I had the same motor in my Punto engine bay!!!!!!!!!!!

[killersushi99]

That looks like some old school equipment right there.

[cayvis45]

volkswagen noob -_-"

[Kozanatos]

2:59 what was that look?

[86Ivar]

that is nice runners! never seen trottlebody like that.

[jordanr1504]

I Love The Injectors

[snap2n]

i think that this is the 1.6 motor, may be volumed up to 1.8. iv got 1.6 delta and it looks the same. nothing like the 1.8...

[hobizoli]

@snap2n it is a "hybrid" The engine outer is "Torque" Euro2 Bravo/Brava 1.6 16v engine (86.4mm bore and 67.4mm stroke, 182A4000) without the stock intake and throtle body, within the Euro3 Stilo 1.6 16v engine's crankshaft (80.5mm bore and 78.4mm stroke, 182B6000). Nowdays it is sold in the same setup in Brazil in Fiat Linea as 1.9 16v (1838ccm, 86.4mm bore and 78.4mm stroke).

Both are based on the old "Fiat SOHC" engine from 1969 (Fiat 128).

[hobizoli]

@hobizoli

"A prominent feature of the Fiat SOHC engine its massively over-square proportions. This over-square design allows large (within the constrains of a reverse-flow configuration) valve sizes relative to engine capacity. A secondary benefit is the short crank throw reduces the accelerative forces on the con-rod allowing the engine to operate at significantly increased engine-speeds"

[hobizoli]

@hobizoli The 16v "Torque" engines are CrossFlow desinged cylinderhead

[copi2k]

what is WV? lol

[windfucker26]

@copi2k WV is stupid yesss wolksvagen

[svedr]

@windfucker26 yess VolksWagen hence the VW not WV

[windfucker26]

@svedr same shit w or v ,you see i don t know how to write this stupid name : )))))

[Astromchaser]

That was not 10000 RPM. Id say that was about 7800 RPM at the highest.

[boofles]

@Astromchaser You can see 10,000 on the tacho dial.

[Astromchaser]

@boofles It doesn't sound like 10000 RPMS.

[0235681956]

@Astromchaser oh yes it does

[yeshmazav]

where the hell is the car? lol

[kimgulle]

Wow, sequential mechanic fuel injection with ITB's and a really experienced old dude making the adjustments to it. And to top it off, the thing is being dynoed in an old school engine dyno. :D

[mute9003]

VTAK KIKED IN YAAAWWWZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wallycastro3]

Vicent Orige from Brazil...look for it on youtube. 2.0 16v Ecotec 340cv no turbo, no NOS. best time on the 1/4 high 9.

[ILOVEFIATBRAVA]

this is fiat brava

[ILOVEFIATBRAVA]

this video is cool.i tuned my fiat brava 1.6 120hp and put a turbo charger and a nos system

[netomerlin]

this is a FIAT... FUCK VW [2]

[windfucker26]

with your sister hahahahahahahaahahaha in my fiat

[herberticuz]

@chabbalato ahahahahaha sei un poveretto

[Titter123]

@chabbalato go die

[dimitrismpower]

@chabbalato Idiot POWER !!!!

[deltaK20A]

@chabbalato hahahahaha lol

[rompn4x]

Always listen to the old guy in the shop he usually knows his shit lol.

[cristianobianchini]

ho una barchetta con lo stesso motore.. 3000 giri in più le farebbero bene.. :D

[koglowa]

...craziness

[preddyno]

ma gli fa bene tirarci cosi poi spegnerlo subito dopo? non sarebbe meglio un po' di cooldown?

[Sj1bby]

ITB FTW

[NoCoTyMaloMam]

Fuck boring german cars!

Only Italian! Cars with spirit! And so beautiful!

Fabbrica Italiana di Automobili Torino FOREVER!

[JOJOBANANAZ1]

THAT WAS A WHOLE CAR IN THE MORNING. during lunch break all the PANELS RUSTED AWAY

[Turnsix]

@JOJOBANANAZ1

You're an idiot

[alfistii1]

@JOJOBANANAZ1 ;Not quite, but much better to have a car rust away than be

stuck with it especially if it's a chavy Bmw or dull Jap jobbie.

In the 1980's most brands rusted away, esp Japanese cars, cars do not rust anymore apart from merc and ford...Italian cars have style and best of all the engines are gem's (Lampredi twincams, Busso V6 ex ferrari G.P engine builders)...Forza Italia

[henkkaS4]

@JOJOBANANAZ1 Hahahahahahahahhahahahahaaha, classic jokes about italian cars :D

[bylamas]

Pisteroytuneador, cpuhame la cocnha

[layton7430]

throttle bodies

[villani8306]

Ragazzi!!il motore in questione sarebbe quello che monta la lancia delta II serie il 1.8 16v v.v.t 131 cv?Grazie Vendetemelo!!!

[skiokonne]

1.9 TDI sucksssssssssssss

[rotorman13b]

That is an old dynometer. They can get more precised information with a computer dynometer system. I like the slide carbs on that thing sounds nice!

[pisteroytuniador]

@rotorman13b Those are not carbs!!!!!!

[bigfreddybear]

most japanese engines are in some way a copy cat of european

[ludesrv1]

HAHAHA

you are funny

[2jzgtejza80]

@bigfreddybear

hahahahahhahahahah most stupid & bizzare thing i ever heard.

Learn something kid.

[koglowa]

@bigfreddybear all motors are copy cats...

[shinyfuzzy]

@bigfreddybear your asshole is a copy of an older persons asshole

[tomciopala19]

chciałbym mieć taki silnik w swoim fiacie 126p

[mraperish]

o.O is that how they used to rate it ;)

[gc1242]

italian engine-with jap reliability. what an engine that would be

[tn21beer]

@gc1242 Would be a German engine?

[7011tommy]

@tn21beer Its an italin engine(fiat)

[obsgr1]

@tn21beer nah, its actually made by ferrari but because ferrari was owned by fiat fiat put their name on it

[KerryDoan]

@gc1242 you wouldnt need italian in the equation if u wanted reliability

[bigfreddybear]

the engine actually has been around since the early 1970's....its main competitor was the ford pinto and opel and lotus twin cam engines

[cossiedrifter]

@bigfreddybear What about the awesome Ford BD engines? The 2.0 liter version has over 300bhp!

[2jzgtejza80]

@cossiedrifter

Agree

[therealmelu]

e un bel motore ma, qnt costa modificarlo cosi?

[SRT480]

i am and honday fan and i still say this engine rocks. Besides where would be the fun if all bought the same fucking brand?

[Rettirauven]

Now THIS is beautiful...

[meryna199]

potrebbe avere anche 500hp ma se dopo 15minuti il motore grippa nn serve a niente perchè questi motori tanto spinti non hanno alcuna affidabilità

[andykaw1]

In effetti tirare fuori da un aspirato 1800 (anche 2000 cc) 250 HP a 10.000 giri non è da tutti.

Complimenti.

[IlFede83]

Honda S2000... non dico altro :D

[2jzgtejza80]

LOL, 100% of all F20C engines from S2k producing 240bhp@9000rpm stock. After modifications on V-TEC stage 2 or stage-3 F20C producing between 280-320bhp@ 10200-10500 rpm

[IlFede83]

come volevasi dimostrare :D

[2jzgtejza80]

you can find tonnes of videos od S2000 tuned by J'S Racing, witch is most powerful 4-banger in the world.

[zapwatt]

A) I don't know what you're laughing at. Can you make 250HP with anything Honda made in 1984? Well that's what these guys did with this F.I.A.T. engine.

B) do you really believe Honda's claimed HP figures? I have some land on the moon I would like to sell to you.

[2jzgtejza80]

@zapwatt

is that stock engine??? NO, so we don't need to talk anymore

[zapwatt]

I don't think you get it. Show me something 1.8 litres from Honda in 1984 and try to make 250HP with it. You can't.

The only thing you have done is compare apples to tangerines.

[2jzgtejza80]

@zapwatt

The point is that B18c from Integra is capable reach 265bhp with J'S Racing tuning. I don't know why you force the 1984 year...but Honda was produced S800-M model in 1970 with 800ccm with rated power to 120bhp@10k rpm, that means 150bhp/liter.

[zapwatt]

You still don't get it.

[2jzgtejza80]

@zapwatt

What i don't get it??

Do you even know what is name of this engine???

Stock power??

where is used engine???

i think that engine isn't from 84' because Fiat doesn't have technology from that year that can reach 250bhp, without forced induction. i think that's Bravo engine from 94' maybe, nowhere 84'. good day, and learn something about 4cyls NA engines history, specially about Honda's B serie.

[2jzgtejza80]

@zapwatt

Honda constructing best 4-bangers in world no doubt.

[invad3r1987]

That's maybe true.. But the italians were the first, who used small high revving engines, like the Abarth 1000TC

[2jzgtejza80]

SINCE 1967!!!

Honda S800 VIR LM...revs to 11000rpm with output power of 120bhp.

Stock S800 producing 85bhp@9000rpm

[pisteroytuniador]

@2jzgtejza80 Of course... a fiat 600 engine can rev up to 12.000 rpm... and so?

[69elyankee69]

El motor de un fiat 600 no puede nunca llegar a 12.000 rpms... Nunca !!! Es varillero... El de un 128 puede ser pero bolita no...

[pisteroytuniador]

@69elyankee69 Como se nota que nunca viste uno bien puesto eh...

[2jzgtejza80]

@pisteroytuniador

proof? video?

[pisteroytuniador]

@2jzgtejza80 I don't have one, but don't worry, i'll get one for you.

[jackspada]

a parere mio non era mappata per niente a sentire la rampata come la fà!!! e se soi la ascoltiamo bene e guardiamo il dinamometro e inutile a farla girare cosi tanto che per prondere quei pochi di giri colassa la potenza, in pista un motore cosi....mha

[Roberto87DeRosa]

Secondo me non è nemmeno niente di speciale, bastava il 5 cilindri turbo originale della fiat coupè per arrivare a 250 cavalli

[cyberbill26]

Con turbo è sempre molto facile amico! Però questo è senza turbo! Questo è il bello di un motores aspirato!!!

[Roberto87DeRosa]

Su questo sono d'accordo, ma se ho intenzione di portare una bravo 1.8 a 250 cavalli, rimedio un motore 2.0 5 cilindri turbo e ce lo infilo sotto... meno tempo e meno denaro

[blindun]

per me non girava piu di 8000giri al minuto,

[Turnsix]

What head is that? With the induction on the right side, it looks like he's using the 1960's version block/configuration.  But not bad for something almost half a century old.

[11Anti11]

Its a circa 2000 1800cc 16v engine from a fiat bravo

[turbozor]

@Turnsix almost looks like stand off injectors

[mattosoffice]

cazzo però l'avete preparato bene per far 250cv in aspirato...