dont mind Arming vietnam in every way with all thing...chinnese counterfiet wepons are already pouring - fueling third world conflicting nations including africas..
@MultiSaiku wow.... what a great attempt at sarcasm..... everyone please appluAD...if need to debate leave sarcasm and racism out... really it seems desperate
I have to say, being neither a Chinese nor Indian resident but rather a US resident, that this is quite amazing. In China, most people are busily going about making money and doing business. They don't have talk shows like this that puff up public sentiments. It's really amazing. Sure, they military may be upgrading like nuts but the general population is oblivious to how the Indian public is being whipped up into a frenzy. Pardon me, but this is not really healthy.
@TheDualEconomist Kindly elaborate what you mean... Anyway, most Chinese are thinking about economic gains. It occupies most of their thoughts. And frankly, capitalism is proving to be very robust in China, despite it not being a fully democratic society. However, they do have grassroots voting. Incidentally, they have stated that their long term plan is a form of democracy, just not the US version. It's going to take some time to ascertain the form they desire.
We should hype china threat using chinese immature behaviour, talk and sayings and build up really good defence with lot of nuclear weapon capability. When the days comes, use them. It is ok, if we all Indians die but we have to make sure all chinese wiped out and there after other countries live in peace.
more like criminality of interests.What we have here is war mongering by India.All these figures that this guy is bringing out of thin air about China's future capabilities is a joke.China is a threat to no one.
We don't think a nation as mature as China will do something so stupid,But China's strong defence ties with our volatile neighbour Pakistan,does raise concerns.
@anatabayak as u say, china has a DEFENCE tiew with pakistan. that dosen't mean they gonna invade india. so many ppl in india talking like there would be a attack tomorrow. you guys really need to relx and mind your own bisness. this is a real suprise for me. out of all country india has the strong anti china mantality. but I asure u in china nobody sees india as a threat, or planing an attack, invasion. we don;t think about those stuff there.
@dalao2yang Offcourse China sees India as a regional economic, military, diplomatic threat.
Thats why China is using Pakistan as a proxy to fight a war against India in order to contain India and keep it preoccupied with Pakistani nuclear and terrorist threat.
@TimeGod12 well I sees india as a threat now but not when I was in china. in china india is just a naboring country. after I sees all these stuff in india TV and on internet how can you not sees india as a threat if you are a chinese? yes we are friends to pakistan, but that make us your enemy? I don't think so. I hope you guys work out your differences but don't drag us into your issues pls
Major Bakshi - China started 15 years ahead of India and reaching economic development saturation now. India has lot of scope for 10-11% GDP growth for another 15 yeras domestically and we will reach there by 2020. There is nothing great with china as their development is not based on innovating new products and services. it is just mass manucturing industry. Once the ceiling is reached, it boils to innovation. We will see by 2020.
@Daystar2006 Dear You are 100 % right. China will be reach its subversion with in 50 years & we are not far behind we will reach there with in 65 years. Saving Natural resources ( Farms, Forest & water) is the only way to save human life, not increase the GDP. read, think , Understand.
@Daystar2006 I dont think Chinese cant innovate.Afterall they are humans too.Chinese universities are much better rated than India and Chinese students perform better than Indians in international olympiads and exams.We really have many serious things to worry.We cant even control our population growth.Though I think we are just 10 years behind China economically. we are behind them in other areas by far
U need holistic understanding of India & china. India's economic boom is from bottom-up and driven by indian Entrepreneurs(even with lot of bureaucratic & gov hurdles) and it started with high-end hi-tech area. China's is top-down and state drive and started with low-end manufactures and some hi-end. With economic expansion, china got more money to play with. Scoring in exams and olympiads is different than actually innovating and creating.
If schools and exam are the just criteria, China would have been leader in winning noble prizes and leader in technology. That is not the case. Just comapare how Indians are doing in Sillicon Valley compared to chinese. Chinse communists dectators used all kinds of devious means to steal, cheat and pump all kinds of money to achieve. Even with their dedicated effort still where are they?
In case of India, defence & military institutes are stuffed with least talented people with very low pay & motivation. Meantime, India experienced severe sanctions due to 1998 nuclear tests. Now all sanctions are gone and almost every top countries want military joint-tech development co-operation. Public & media pressure & chinese menace brought huge change in reforming Indian defence industry bringing in priavte industry participation. You will see huge change in 10 years
Finally, Indian will march and take real quantum leap in next 10 years due to combination of many things(Economic boom makes availability of huge money for defence, improved governance & accountability which effected earlier, major joint & co-development with US, Israel, Russia & European defence companies, and participation & emergence of Indian private defence industry like L & T, Tata, Mahindra, Godrej etc). In 10 years India will equal or ahead in every apect with china
As far china's innovation is concerned, I haven't seen happening. Most of them are reverse engineered or stolen tech. For innovation to happen, you need certain environment like intellectual properties rights protection, freedom of society to share and be creative and driven in that direction with strong ethics in organizations. All those are not there and possible in communist china. That is why they resort to devious means. Democartic India may achieve slowly all those.
@Daystar2006 My frnd.I know all what u have said and I have already read all that.And that is precisely why I acknowledged that we are just 10 yrs behind China econonically contrary to popular belief as 15-20 yrs.But I am'nt arguing about economy here ma frnd.Here am talkin about innovation.And ur argument that Chinese should have let the world in winnin nobels nd technology is a bit absurd coz China has just barely got onto the world stage
It is absurd to argue with you. It basically leads to no where. Fundamental innovations happen in small dedicated labs setups and universities. China is a big country with thousands of universities and defence labs with huge money put in defence and space. C.V.Raman got noble prize doing research in Bangalore central college university which even IISc couldn't achieve. In India, we would have done better & got lot more innovations & noble prizes but caste based reservation spoil it.
I mean, what was China 10 yrs ago? Much same as todays India economically and with much weaker banking system than todays India.How do u expect they could finance massive research projects? And if all that IPRs and freedom of thought were the criteria for innovation then how do u explain that China was the first to create the vaccine for Swine flu, much before India came up wid its own( though Swine flu caused 100 time more havoc here than in China?)
India is not just 10 years but 20 years. China being communist country had natural tendency to give basic health, job, education & needs to all its citizens. China was 20 years ahead in building social infrastructures like education and other stuffs. That helped them propel manufacturing industry with cheap labor with authoritarian regime. During the same time, we invested in building democratic institutions through social justice to all. India's foundation is solid for long term.
@Daystar2006 My frnd it s ok about long term.But what about the immediate problems like energy security and population growth, kashmir?? I am afraid where we are going
What I have seen of late is we Indians are feelin more complacent mentioning China's lack of democracy but are failing to see other factors at play.And when talkin about the race to become the superpower, how about comparing governance in the two countries. Do u think I even need to explain? A small eg:1) China provides arms and nuke tech toour rival Pakistan.Can India do that with Taiwan?? And what was India's response to this?------------
part-5 First we have to address massive institutional inadequacies,make sure Kashmir stays wid us not just as land but also as ppl,improve judiciary which is better non-existant than in its current form,find ways to improve the too worse than bad urban infrastr(u cant have both humans and cows using the same streets in a superpower country),find ways to stop(not control) our ever unrelenting popul growth,find new energy sources to continue economic growth beyond 2020
And finally plz improve the foreign policy which makes India look more confused from outside for a superpower aspiring country.And many many more to compete with China.I would appreciate ur response.thanku
When you want to challenge your enemy, you should be capable of fight him. Otherwise you will become pakistan like. Pakistan never understood its limit and went out and lost east pakistan and now bankrupt and on life support from US aid money. It takes another 4-5 years for India to take china head-on. We just need all the nuclear triad ready and all the forces armed with modern warfare. Didn't see how the response across himachal border when Dalai Lama visited there.
eg-2)China issues stapled visas to Kashmiris and Arunachalis.Can India do that with Tibetans and Uighurs?And India's response to this?---------- Finally I am'nt sayin we Indians are'nt innovative.But I think the biggest mistake we r doin is under ratin China's capabilities and over rating India's.
Let them issue whatever visa they want, that doesn't change Kashmir or Arunachal reality. India also working with east asian countries, USA, russia and europe to counter china. In fact, chinese are more paronoid than India. But being a open society and media we talk lot and create lot more hype.
As like his mustache, he is a special soldier. He was the one who created special indian army unit to fight islamic terrorists from pakistan in Kashmir. That unit totally decimated terrorists in Kashmir. US marines used his expertise in Afghanistan and were trained with his special unit in India. He developed a special army unit to fight a guerilla like guerlla. But he is not specialist in other areas which he is commeting.
One thing is india wont be along wen a chinese agression
CHERIKUGAJEVIKUGA 2 weeks ago
dont mind Arming vietnam in every way with all thing...chinnese counterfiet wepons are already pouring - fueling third world conflicting nations including africas..
CHERIKUGAJEVIKUGA 2 weeks ago
India is a baby to China Need China as leader in South asia
Mr3939820 2 months ago
wow when did chinese got permition from ther comnistgove to leave a coment in Utube...??!?shocking!!!!
MultiSaiku 3 months ago
@MultiSaiku wow.... what a great attempt at sarcasm..... everyone please appluAD...if need to debate leave sarcasm and racism out... really it seems desperate
GORGEOUSGEORGE1100 3 months ago
I have to say, being neither a Chinese nor Indian resident but rather a US resident, that this is quite amazing. In China, most people are busily going about making money and doing business. They don't have talk shows like this that puff up public sentiments. It's really amazing. Sure, they military may be upgrading like nuts but the general population is oblivious to how the Indian public is being whipped up into a frenzy. Pardon me, but this is not really healthy.
blueskyjoy 8 months ago
@blueskyjoy How can you possibly compare a Communist society to an open- democracratic societic?
TheDualEconomist 3 months ago
@TheDualEconomist Kindly elaborate what you mean... Anyway, most Chinese are thinking about economic gains. It occupies most of their thoughts. And frankly, capitalism is proving to be very robust in China, despite it not being a fully democratic society. However, they do have grassroots voting. Incidentally, they have stated that their long term plan is a form of democracy, just not the US version. It's going to take some time to ascertain the form they desire.
blueskyjoy 3 months ago
@blueskyjoy The CCP controls all networks and censors the internet.
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Why are we even having a conversation about this?
TheDualEconomist 3 months ago
NO NEED TO HEADACHE !
AMERICA,RUSSIA,WHOLE AMERICA, EUROPE,WHOLE SOUTH ASIA ARE AIM THE WEAPON IN FRONT OF CHINA !
souro19 9 months ago
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@souro19 that is what your bestfriends told your girlfriend.
LuvthewayUact 4 months ago
we boycott chines product and every chines product
digantism 1 year ago
We should hype china threat using chinese immature behaviour, talk and sayings and build up really good defence with lot of nuclear weapon capability. When the days comes, use them. It is ok, if we all Indians die but we have to make sure all chinese wiped out and there after other countries live in peace.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@8.07 "scope for commonality of interests"
more like criminality of interests.What we have here is war mongering by India.All these figures that this guy is bringing out of thin air about China's future capabilities is a joke.China is a threat to no one.
butt47jk 1 year ago
yeah the 140 billion dollars spent on defence is not aim at India. China has bigger fish to fry in the east.
PrometheanRunGood 1 year ago
I don;t understand this. you guys really think that china is gonna invade india??
dalao2yang 1 year ago
@dalao2yang
We don't think a nation as mature as China will do something so stupid,But China's strong defence ties with our volatile neighbour Pakistan,does raise concerns.
anatabayak 1 year ago
@anatabayak as u say, china has a DEFENCE tiew with pakistan. that dosen't mean they gonna invade india. so many ppl in india talking like there would be a attack tomorrow. you guys really need to relx and mind your own bisness. this is a real suprise for me. out of all country india has the strong anti china mantality. but I asure u in china nobody sees india as a threat, or planing an attack, invasion. we don;t think about those stuff there.
dalao2yang 1 year ago
@dalao2yang Offcourse China sees India as a regional economic, military, diplomatic threat.
Thats why China is using Pakistan as a proxy to fight a war against India in order to contain India and keep it preoccupied with Pakistani nuclear and terrorist threat.
TimeGod12 10 months ago
@TimeGod12 well I sees india as a threat now but not when I was in china. in china india is just a naboring country. after I sees all these stuff in india TV and on internet how can you not sees india as a threat if you are a chinese? yes we are friends to pakistan, but that make us your enemy? I don't think so. I hope you guys work out your differences but don't drag us into your issues pls
NERFELFLA 8 months ago
Major Bakshi - China started 15 years ahead of India and reaching economic development saturation now. India has lot of scope for 10-11% GDP growth for another 15 yeras domestically and we will reach there by 2020. There is nothing great with china as their development is not based on innovating new products and services. it is just mass manucturing industry. Once the ceiling is reached, it boils to innovation. We will see by 2020.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@Daystar2006 Dear You are 100 % right. China will be reach its subversion with in 50 years & we are not far behind we will reach there with in 65 years. Saving Natural resources ( Farms, Forest & water) is the only way to save human life, not increase the GDP. read, think , Understand.
vishwashantiforall 1 year ago
@Daystar2006 I dont think Chinese cant innovate.Afterall they are humans too.Chinese universities are much better rated than India and Chinese students perform better than Indians in international olympiads and exams.We really have many serious things to worry.We cant even control our population growth.Though I think we are just 10 years behind China economically. we are behind them in other areas by far
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz
part-1
U need holistic understanding of India & china. India's economic boom is from bottom-up and driven by indian Entrepreneurs(even with lot of bureaucratic & gov hurdles) and it started with high-end hi-tech area. China's is top-down and state drive and started with low-end manufactures and some hi-end. With economic expansion, china got more money to play with. Scoring in exams and olympiads is different than actually innovating and creating.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@rodriquz
part-2
If schools and exam are the just criteria, China would have been leader in winning noble prizes and leader in technology. That is not the case. Just comapare how Indians are doing in Sillicon Valley compared to chinese. Chinse communists dectators used all kinds of devious means to steal, cheat and pump all kinds of money to achieve. Even with their dedicated effort still where are they?
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@rodriquz
part-3
In case of India, defence & military institutes are stuffed with least talented people with very low pay & motivation. Meantime, India experienced severe sanctions due to 1998 nuclear tests. Now all sanctions are gone and almost every top countries want military joint-tech development co-operation. Public & media pressure & chinese menace brought huge change in reforming Indian defence industry bringing in priavte industry participation. You will see huge change in 10 years
Daystar2006 1 year ago
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Daystar2006 1 year ago
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@rodriquz
part-4
Finally, Indian will march and take real quantum leap in next 10 years due to combination of many things(Economic boom makes availability of huge money for defence, improved governance & accountability which effected earlier, major joint & co-development with US, Israel, Russia & European defence companies, and participation & emergence of Indian private defence industry like L & T, Tata, Mahindra, Godrej etc). In 10 years India will equal or ahead in every apect with china
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@rodriquz
part-5
As far china's innovation is concerned, I haven't seen happening. Most of them are reverse engineered or stolen tech. For innovation to happen, you need certain environment like intellectual properties rights protection, freedom of society to share and be creative and driven in that direction with strong ethics in organizations. All those are not there and possible in communist china. That is why they resort to devious means. Democartic India may achieve slowly all those.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@Daystar2006 My frnd.I know all what u have said and I have already read all that.And that is precisely why I acknowledged that we are just 10 yrs behind China econonically contrary to popular belief as 15-20 yrs.But I am'nt arguing about economy here ma frnd.Here am talkin about innovation.And ur argument that Chinese should have let the world in winnin nobels nd technology is a bit absurd coz China has just barely got onto the world stage
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz
It is absurd to argue with you. It basically leads to no where. Fundamental innovations happen in small dedicated labs setups and universities. China is a big country with thousands of universities and defence labs with huge money put in defence and space. C.V.Raman got noble prize doing research in Bangalore central college university which even IISc couldn't achieve. In India, we would have done better & got lot more innovations & noble prizes but caste based reservation spoil it.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
part-2
I mean, what was China 10 yrs ago? Much same as todays India economically and with much weaker banking system than todays India.How do u expect they could finance massive research projects? And if all that IPRs and freedom of thought were the criteria for innovation then how do u explain that China was the first to create the vaccine for Swine flu, much before India came up wid its own( though Swine flu caused 100 time more havoc here than in China?)
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz
India is not just 10 years but 20 years. China being communist country had natural tendency to give basic health, job, education & needs to all its citizens. China was 20 years ahead in building social infrastructures like education and other stuffs. That helped them propel manufacturing industry with cheap labor with authoritarian regime. During the same time, we invested in building democratic institutions through social justice to all. India's foundation is solid for long term.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@Daystar2006 My frnd it s ok about long term.But what about the immediate problems like energy security and population growth, kashmir?? I am afraid where we are going
rodriquz 1 year ago
@Daystar2006
part-3
What I have seen of late is we Indians are feelin more complacent mentioning China's lack of democracy but are failing to see other factors at play.And when talkin about the race to become the superpower, how about comparing governance in the two countries. Do u think I even need to explain? A small eg:1) China provides arms and nuke tech toour rival Pakistan.Can India do that with Taiwan?? And what was India's response to this?------------
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz
part-5 First we have to address massive institutional inadequacies,make sure Kashmir stays wid us not just as land but also as ppl,improve judiciary which is better non-existant than in its current form,find ways to improve the too worse than bad urban infrastr(u cant have both humans and cows using the same streets in a superpower country),find ways to stop(not control) our ever unrelenting popul growth,find new energy sources to continue economic growth beyond 2020
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz part-6
And finally plz improve the foreign policy which makes India look more confused from outside for a superpower aspiring country.And many many more to compete with China.I would appreciate ur response.thanku
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz
When you want to challenge your enemy, you should be capable of fight him. Otherwise you will become pakistan like. Pakistan never understood its limit and went out and lost east pakistan and now bankrupt and on life support from US aid money. It takes another 4-5 years for India to take china head-on. We just need all the nuclear triad ready and all the forces armed with modern warfare. Didn't see how the response across himachal border when Dalai Lama visited there.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
@Daystar2006 There wont be any war btw India nd China in the conceivable future.I have confidence in our armed forces
rodriquz 1 year ago
@Daystar2006 part-4
eg-2)China issues stapled visas to Kashmiris and Arunachalis.Can India do that with Tibetans and Uighurs?And India's response to this?---------- Finally I am'nt sayin we Indians are'nt innovative.But I think the biggest mistake we r doin is under ratin China's capabilities and over rating India's.
rodriquz 1 year ago
@rodriquz
Let them issue whatever visa they want, that doesn't change Kashmir or Arunachal reality. India also working with east asian countries, USA, russia and europe to counter china. In fact, chinese are more paronoid than India. But being a open society and media we talk lot and create lot more hype.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
what a mustache
TheProjektcc 1 year ago
@TheProjektcc
As like his mustache, he is a special soldier. He was the one who created special indian army unit to fight islamic terrorists from pakistan in Kashmir. That unit totally decimated terrorists in Kashmir. US marines used his expertise in Afghanistan and were trained with his special unit in India. He developed a special army unit to fight a guerilla like guerlla. But he is not specialist in other areas which he is commeting.
Daystar2006 1 year ago
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Mad indian say mad things ... hahaha!
greaterchinaforum 1 year ago
@greaterchinaforum
Paranoid chinks think nonsensically and are unstable minded.
MrBombchinanow 10 months ago