People, you wanna know how good this guy is? He would've been a two-time Heisman winner. He got robbed the year before and they figured they couldn't screw him twice.
@lordvoldemort578 It was a high volume pass offense. His int percent was still only 5 percent that season. Look at the TDs, Passing yards, Passing rating, etc. I will admit though, at times he had interception issues. But when he was on, he was amazing.
@lordvoldemort578 I followed his career. In general, he played excellent. And he generally picked up INTs in bunches when he was off. The day after he won the Heisman, he went and threw 5 picks against Hawaii. He probably wouldn't have won if they waited to do the vote. That's okay b/c he got robbed the year before. Anyhow, had he got full reps his freshmen year he'd probably be the all-time passing yards leader.
I don't know if I think of em as greats. But I know that Detmer had a team or two capable of competing for a championship. They had a couple solid RBs. Willis and Hall. It was kinda like the Raven's former combo of MgGahee and Rice. Hall wasnt as built Rice, he was a bit taller and lightning quick though. So they'd use Willis to pound the ball (and he'd 'carry it like a loaf of bread' fumble at times) and use Hall to hit the home runs. Then they had some fast cbs and lbs.
@lordvoldemort578 Detmer's BYU did beat 1 ranked Miami and almost beat the powerhouse Penn State in the Holiday Bowl. They had the talent for a year or two and then a decade later they had a contender (but weak schedule). It's the weak schedules (among other reasons) that have prevented them from being a serious powerhouse. I think that's why they finally went independent once the MWC crumbled.
@lordvoldemort578 Generally something like Detmer throws for 500 and 5 TDs and Faulk runs for 220 plus and 3 or 4 TDs in a shootout. I think Faulk ran for 292 or something once.
@lordvoldemort578 Generally terrible or at best inconsistent. Nothing's changed. But I'd say during the Detmer years especially, there was hope. There was this LB named Rocky something that was an animal. He was all over the place, kind of like an Urlacher or Chad Greenway. And it was about the only time in BYU history we had 2 fast black corners, Gray and Mitchell. And I think one of the safeties was black too (not to be racial); but they were about as good as it got. Faulk still lit em up tho.
@FavreianVengeance Thanks for Relaying all this Info to me. It's nice to hear from someone who has seen it all before, and about being racial. Don't worry about it, we are all people and we are all created equal. Imagine a QB Like Detmer today and a defense Like, Lets say Florida's defense from 2008. WOOOOOW. BYU would be National championships every year. Rocky? I can Look him up but tell me about Rocky.
@lordvoldemort578 Florida has not played a non conference game out of Florida since 92. They essentially create as many home games as possible because they already know that the media will drule over SEC victories.
@lordvoldemort578 Actually, the BYU D gave up a lot of yards then. But they were kind of like the Saints Super Bowl defense. They were very opportunistic when it came to creating turnovers. Even when the team reached the red zone, you had a good sense a huge sack or turover was coming. They had big lines on both sides of the ball and that helped.
@FavreianVengeance Defense wins Championships. Offense Puts Up the points that sell tickets. Alabama, FL, OSU? they cheated Back then?? How did they cheat?
@lordvoldemort578 ...Mmmm in college offensive juggernauts can get it done. Last year's Boise State team was the best I've seen. But certainly they would have had insurance with better defense against Nevada (kicker choked). I said teams cheat now (always have really). You know about USC, Ohio State etc. And when they're not cheating in the system, they're rigging the system with that BCS crap to ensure that they are getting guaranteed money and perpetually attracting the top recruits.
@FavreianVengeance Unfortunately though, they had too many letdown games though and never really came too close to realy winning a national championship. But they beat Miami and that year they almost beat Penn State, they were a powerhouse all year. It was obvious the talent level was high. But its hard for BYU to keep it high year after year. I think that's why they finally went independent; to command a stronger schedule and attract better recruits.
@FavreianVengeance How good was Penn state Back then? Them getting a better schedule and attracting better recruits was a good Idea, Plus BYU Brigham Young is the great great great grandfather of Steve Young hahaha
@lordvoldemort578 I think Penn State had 2 real close losses early against teams that ended up in the top 5. The rest their games they crushed people. They were arguably the best team in the country that year. BYU made too many mistakes in the bowl game and then almost mounted an incredible comeback. That's when the PSU DL made a line I never seen before that point and not many times since. He just stripped the ball right as Detmer took it back and ruined the comeback.
@FavreianVengeance I guess In those days The teams of today OU, FLORIDA , USC were not what they are today USC sucks now. Was Detmer a comback king or was he just never placed in those situations because he was so good? Whos your favorite teams of today?
@lordvoldemort578 Penn State took a nose dive. For about 3 decades until about 2000 or so they were always in the national contention. Top 5 80's, 90's would have been Nebraska, OU, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame (actually 6). Those were the teams always in the top 10. Eventually Florida, OSU, USC, Alabama bucked the system often by cheating.
I worked out with him yesterday
vMARSHxMANv 4 months ago
Dude. This video is tight.
tiannam117 7 months ago
People, you wanna know how good this guy is? He would've been a two-time Heisman winner. He got robbed the year before and they figured they couldn't screw him twice.
FavreianVengeance 9 months ago
@FavreianVengeance He Threw Like 28 Interceptions In a season.
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 It was a high volume pass offense. His int percent was still only 5 percent that season. Look at the TDs, Passing yards, Passing rating, etc. I will admit though, at times he had interception issues. But when he was on, he was amazing.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance yeah He threw for a shit Load. The Int's are A Little Knock On Him if he threw 5000 yards and 4 INTS wow!!
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 I followed his career. In general, he played excellent. And he generally picked up INTs in bunches when he was off. The day after he won the Heisman, he went and threw 5 picks against Hawaii. He probably wouldn't have won if they waited to do the vote. That's okay b/c he got robbed the year before. Anyhow, had he got full reps his freshmen year he'd probably be the all-time passing yards leader.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance You watched Him Play how old are you? And I agree he got robbed.
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Old enough to have watched the majority of his games at the time.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance Oh OK, Lol. Who else were the greats Back In your day?
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
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I don't know if I think of em as greats. But I know that Detmer had a team or two capable of competing for a championship. They had a couple solid RBs. Willis and Hall. It was kinda like the Raven's former combo of MgGahee and Rice. Hall wasnt as built Rice, he was a bit taller and lightning quick though. So they'd use Willis to pound the ball (and he'd 'carry it like a loaf of bread' fumble at times) and use Hall to hit the home runs. Then they had some fast cbs and lbs.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
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FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Detmer's BYU did beat 1 ranked Miami and almost beat the powerhouse Penn State in the Holiday Bowl. They had the talent for a year or two and then a decade later they had a contender (but weak schedule). It's the weak schedules (among other reasons) that have prevented them from being a serious powerhouse. I think that's why they finally went independent once the MWC crumbled.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Also the Detmer vs. Faulk matches were always epic.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance Detmer vs Faulk tell me about it.
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Generally something like Detmer throws for 500 and 5 TDs and Faulk runs for 220 plus and 3 or 4 TDs in a shootout. I think Faulk ran for 292 or something once.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance How was BYU'S DEFENSE BACK THEN?
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Generally terrible or at best inconsistent. Nothing's changed. But I'd say during the Detmer years especially, there was hope. There was this LB named Rocky something that was an animal. He was all over the place, kind of like an Urlacher or Chad Greenway. And it was about the only time in BYU history we had 2 fast black corners, Gray and Mitchell. And I think one of the safeties was black too (not to be racial); but they were about as good as it got. Faulk still lit em up tho.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance Thanks for Relaying all this Info to me. It's nice to hear from someone who has seen it all before, and about being racial. Don't worry about it, we are all people and we are all created equal. Imagine a QB Like Detmer today and a defense Like, Lets say Florida's defense from 2008. WOOOOOW. BYU would be National championships every year. Rocky? I can Look him up but tell me about Rocky.
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Florida has not played a non conference game out of Florida since 92. They essentially create as many home games as possible because they already know that the media will drule over SEC victories.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Actually, the BYU D gave up a lot of yards then. But they were kind of like the Saints Super Bowl defense. They were very opportunistic when it came to creating turnovers. Even when the team reached the red zone, you had a good sense a huge sack or turover was coming. They had big lines on both sides of the ball and that helped.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance Defense wins Championships. Offense Puts Up the points that sell tickets. Alabama, FL, OSU? they cheated Back then?? How did they cheat?
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 ...Mmmm in college offensive juggernauts can get it done. Last year's Boise State team was the best I've seen. But certainly they would have had insurance with better defense against Nevada (kicker choked). I said teams cheat now (always have really). You know about USC, Ohio State etc. And when they're not cheating in the system, they're rigging the system with that BCS crap to ensure that they are getting guaranteed money and perpetually attracting the top recruits.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance Unfortunately though, they had too many letdown games though and never really came too close to realy winning a national championship. But they beat Miami and that year they almost beat Penn State, they were a powerhouse all year. It was obvious the talent level was high. But its hard for BYU to keep it high year after year. I think that's why they finally went independent; to command a stronger schedule and attract better recruits.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance How good was Penn state Back then? Them getting a better schedule and attracting better recruits was a good Idea, Plus BYU Brigham Young is the great great great grandfather of Steve Young hahaha
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 I think Penn State had 2 real close losses early against teams that ended up in the top 5. The rest their games they crushed people. They were arguably the best team in the country that year. BYU made too many mistakes in the bowl game and then almost mounted an incredible comeback. That's when the PSU DL made a line I never seen before that point and not many times since. He just stripped the ball right as Detmer took it back and ruined the comeback.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
@FavreianVengeance I guess In those days The teams of today OU, FLORIDA , USC were not what they are today USC sucks now. Was Detmer a comback king or was he just never placed in those situations because he was so good? Whos your favorite teams of today?
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Penn State took a nose dive. For about 3 decades until about 2000 or so they were always in the national contention. Top 5 80's, 90's would have been Nebraska, OU, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame (actually 6). Those were the teams always in the top 10. Eventually Florida, OSU, USC, Alabama bucked the system often by cheating.
FavreianVengeance 5 months ago
Amazing athlete, amazing person
IruleOverProgressive 10 months ago
ty was the best
MSBARBARAJONES716 1 year ago
AWESOME TY was great
mikeedro 1 year ago