I love this monologue and think it would have been great in the play but I just read the play and didn't see it in the original Shakespeare or did I miss a whole scene....lol
Pacino, stop screaming! HATH A JEW NOT EYES!!! "I feel like I know this characters," says Pacino, "He screams everything." Pacino is a rare example of how to best ruin Shakespeare.
I can't help wondering sometimes about what would've happened had Shylock asked for a torch with which to burn off the pound of flesh. The wound would have been cauterized so no "christian blood" would hit the floor. The look on Portia's face would certainly have been priceless.....
@sam6350 that is true but his pound of flesh had to be exact or still he would have broken the bond as portia says if under or over by one hair the bond is forfeit
@wolfgirl8781 Good point. But it would basically be a mexican standoff from a legal perspective. Shylock had nothing to lose at that point, so while his own life would be forfeit, the act of burning off the pound of flesh would also kill Antonio.
If he's backed into a corner, and the court see's he has nothing to lose, then it may be willing to allow him to back out gracefully...rather than have him commit suicide and take Antonio with him. But then it'd be a different play...
Christians spent thousands of years trashing Jews, and now they're big fans of Israel because they want the end of the world, based on some bullshit that a fraud prophet made up with the Rapture. At least have some respect for an older tradition with some smarter people who know a few more languages than you. Dumbass illiterate American Protestants.
@ravenouscolonelhart and jews have spent thousands of yrs trashing Christians and continue to do so.Maybe you havent seen the name of american noecons pearle,frum,wolfowitz,etc etc.
One of the greatest speeches ever! Shylock has every right to revenge at Antonio and Bassanio... and I'm not saying this as a Jew. I am a Christian and i think that Antonio had NO RIGHT in doing what he did to the Jews, especially Shylock! Because he is being a hypocrite! Jesus was a Jew and he follows Jesus' laws so that means he looks down on Jesus' own people? No dumbass if i were him I would look up to the Jews after all Jesus was one and you want to right by Jesus dont yu? Stupid Antonio!
Jesus was from Galilee, not Judea, he was not a jew. He even referred to jews as they, so to say. Just as an Irishman isn't English and a Scotsman isn't Welsh. They are British, to each his own. Dont say things to look or seem correct. If there is discontent of behalf of a people towards another people (like the drug mules that are the gypsies, its a fact) then it must be for a reason.
Another thing is being hateful, THAT is against God, which is Love. But Truth is Love as well.
@lucianarg30 Oh? Jesus wasnt a Jew? look it up on Google tell me what you see Look it up in the Bible tell me what do you see Jesus was born in Bethelem in JUDEA Look that up as well Do your research love then come doubt my Religion I am not being hateful i am stating facts Antonio got what he deserved after all Bassanio DID tell him not to risk his life for him If you don't believe me look all of what i have just stated as well So YOU my dear shouldn't say things that don't look or seem correct
One of the greatest speeches ever! Shylock has every right to revenge at Antonio and Bassanio... and I'm not saying this as a Jew. I am a Christian and i think that Antonio had NO RIGHT in doing what he did to the Jews, especially Shylock! Because he is being a hypocrite! Jesus was a Jew and he follows Jesus' laws so that means he looks down on Jesus' own people? No dumbass if i were him I would look up to the Jews after all Jesus was one and you want to right by Jesus sont yu? Stupid Antonio!
Lol, supposidly the writers of this film read the script wrong. If you feel for shylok, then you are reading this all wrong. This is a time where the play was made to broadcast Jews as bad people, because the english didn't know any different, and it was what people wanted to see.
An evil man who was more obsessed with revenge before money, and money before even his own daughter. He did not have 'christian humility' like he was given at the end - to the audience, Antonio is in the right.
I wasn't too sure Pacino could pull off Shylock when I saw the DVD in the store, but I bought it anyway. When I saw the film, his performance blew me away. One of his best performances ever.
@anjrew94 shut your mouth.....is it not our fault that you are an uneducated little shit. Shakespeare was and is the best. so take your little ass of this page.
It is very impossible to combine all the doctrines and beliefs of all religion and use them to establish another one. Having an individual belief might show some good results, but oftentimes, it doesn't. It might even lead in something worse rather than make things better. And to judge religions based on what occurred in the past hardly seems fair. If you'll just judge based on history, then you will never see change and the results for one will be stuck in something that will never come back.
Maybe there is. What you're trying to say may be applicable for some, but not for every religion. There are many sects in Christianity and Judaism who focuses mainly on the morality of their members, and even those that are not with them. But there are also sects that are controlled by individuals to practice their beliefs which often give negative results. Let's take the Catholics as an example. They have a leader, but the Pope leads and works for the sake of the Church, not for his own needs.
Um, is it really religion who has the problem, or the individual? If we'll just look carefully, it's not the religion who harms the person, but an individual who has negative beliefs. Isn't it that telling that Christians are evil a discrimination? Same as Jews were treated badly like we saw earlier. I hope we would realize this missing fact.
@TheDenmarkg But you see, most religions have been controlled by an individual or individuals, who guide the religions with THEIR values, THEIR beliefs. And throughout history, those beliefs and values have corrupted those of their followers. THAT is the problem with organized religion. There is no individual belief. There isn't a single Christian or Jewish Church that accepts ALL views of God under one roof. There is no individual, there is the group, as directed by an Individual.
fact is, idiots throughout history has made religion seem evil. if people didnt do stupid sacrifices (like the myans) or argue over the simple fact of who owns the promise land (crusades) den it would be a less peaceful world, but dont say it as if religion is the utter most evil. religion has its positives and negatives, and so does being an atheist.
how is he not the hero he is the one that suffers he could have taken the money and thats it but thats not the point that shakespeare was trying to show. jews were the ones that suffered thats wat he was trying to show and how they were treated like non humans was horrible. he was not greedy in anyway just stood up for his rights of humanity
this is a story about a revenge. this is a beautiful story. i have been recite this infront of the class and it is so emotional. i;m a gr.6 student but this a highschool piece but we can recite this.
No one in this play is qualified to wear a white hat or be deemed a hero. Each has their own flaws and setbacks, which is what makes this play, and indeed many other Shakespearean plays, so problematic and thought-provoking! Al Pacino is an awesome actor.
I believe Shakespeare wanted to show that all people are the same, We saw Shylock love his daughter, pain when she left him, saw him humiliated, saw him happy, saw him crawl and we saw many sides of emotions all the humans have.
At the court u could see jews who didnt agree with his point maybe showing that we should not judge a race or religion by the actions of one man.
Every man has feelings and everybody is equal, Shakespeare pointed that out in his way and in his own age, thats how I c it
This speech is probably one of my favourite speeches of all times. It has so much meaning and emotion to it that you basically felt how Jew's lives were so hard to live by in these times. I also think its important for all people to realize that no matter what WE'RE ALL EQUAL and we all are human beings with REAL FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS.
Exactly why I love Shylock so much. Other portrayals of oppressed people always have them suffering peacefully and taking the abuse. But that isn't realistic. It's not right to lash out, but it is understandable. And an expected part of the human reaction which emphasizes the original cruelty. To portray Jews, blacks, women, whatever, simply taking the abuse as pacifists and pretending that none of them ever felt a want for revenge is to deny their humanity and make them cutesy cutouts.
Perhaps I've seen too many Pacino movies, don't know...can't help it, but watching this, I am always waiting for Pacino to light a cigarette, take a big gun and scream something like: "Yea, I'm f*cking jew but a f*cking jew with a f*cking gun and it's f*cking loaded, you son of a bitch, don't you push your luck, DON'T push IT you son of a BITCH! … "
Shylock clearly is the hero in the play. He is a noble man trapped in a severly inegaliterian society. He tries to live alongside the christians but time and time again they abuse and torture him and for what, he's a jew? The christians are the true villains. Caught up in their racial discrimination and spurning the poor Shylock for the mere fact that he is different. Shylock is a total hero trapped in a world full of hatrid and animosity.
@KarlD93 I wouldn't go that far. Shakespeare was way ahead of his time in providing characters who were ethnic minorities with a real human voice. But Shakespeare still believed that baptism for Shylock (ie forced conversion) was in the end good. Now I like Shakespeare, but I don't demand that his values concur with mine, and I know that they don't. In my view Shylock is a man playing the villain's role in a comedy where he can't win (contrast Iago), but he's still very human.
You didn't wrong, but that's not exactly true. There are two heroes in "The Merchant": Shylock by one side, and Portia by the other. She is the only character who doesn't belong to the world of Venice, and if she is not bad with Shylock: she punishes him only to save Antonio, not because he is a Jew. But I completely agree with you about the others (Bassanio is a fucking asshole, Gratiano is a dumb, Jessica is...I don't want to tell it).
Shylock is a victim of circumstance. Trapped in the world of hatrid he has no choice but to rebuke the christians who have spurned him countless times. "The villany you teach me I shall execute and it shall go hard.". This is the point in the play when Shylock realises he cannot reason with the hateful christians who spit on him and call him cut throat dog. He may be seen as a villain but his villany is the fault of the ruthless christians.
True the concept of outsiders inside the larger spectrum is a good idea. Shylock was constantly spat at and vilified by everyone in Venice even his own daughter who secretly confessed she wanted to convert. In that regard, Karl is right, Shylock is indeed a victim of circumstance but because he was an outsider who was constantly harrassed because of his ethnicity. However, I don't know if Portia didn't belong in Venice that's really unsubstantiated because that's not implied in the play.
@KarlD93 actually thats just a modern view. when the play was written, jews were seen in a very negative light, and he was supposed to be the villain. its obvious that shakespeare sympathized with shylock, or he wouldnt have written such great lines for him. other than that though, the rest of his lines can be played as an evil guy trying to get his revenge and then some. back in shakespeare's day, audiences cheered when shylock got his "comeuppance" and forced to become a christian in the end.
@KarlD93 shylock having been persecuted does not make him a "hero". While i agree totally that he is unjustly treated throughout the story he meets their taunts ( after a great deal of patience) with brutal revenge. I feel he's a badass for doing so but no matter put down upon someone is it does not make them a "hero". a man of great temperance or patience perhaps but not a "hero".
Ps This is one of the best depictions of this monologue I've seen.
@KarlD93 I wouldn't say Shylock is a complete hero. He has his fair share of flaws. Ultimately the play comes down compassion. Shylock reveals in the court that he has none for the Christians. Now that may be beacuse of his treatment by them, but it does not excuse his lack of it.
The best thing about MoV is that it is a social commentary without a true protagonist. I didn't find myself sympathising with the Christians or with Shylock - but I was utterly hooked on the play. Only in Shakespeare.
@sickbro69 fact is, idiots throughout history has made religion seem evil. if people didnt do stupid sacrifices (like the myans) or argue over the simple fact of who owns the promise land (crusades) den it would be a less peaceful worlds, but dont say it as if religion is the utter most evil. religion has its positives and negatives, and so does being an atheist.
@forgothispassword no, throughout history the church has tried to fuck up the evolution of humanity. Honestly, Religion was born in a time when humanity was still immature. Religion is about sacrifice and promised lands; nobody can do anything in the name of atheism, they're just dick heads who don't believe in God. But people do despicable things in the name of their God. people HATE and kill in the name of God.
@KarlD93 Partially correct. Shylock is the victim of circumstance and his actions are a response to the antisemitism he has experienced at the hands of the Christians (and his frustration with his daughter for having fled with a Christian). If we're talking about character function, though, Portia, not Shylock, is the hero. She is the character that restores order to the play, resolving the conflict established by Shylock demanding compensation for his bond.
Just, from the point of view of the play, and of Shakespeare's, I think Shylock is a villain cos history has left him no other choice than this: if we spoiled Bassanio&co. of their fictional role of "positive characters", wouldn't they be just bastards mocking at an old man only for being of another religion? I think Shakespeare is aware of this, and on the other hand he still belongs to THAT age so he can't help putting everything against the Jew.
I like the way that he does it, I've seen other performances where the actor makes this speech sound so unfeeling, but I really do think that Shakespeare was trying to make a statement about how much sh** Jews have gotten and how they deserve sympathy. Al Pacino is awesome.
@brisingerx Nope, Jews have had more than enough money to make up for any apparent wrongs. Your average Jew probably was a lot better off than a gentile peasant.
@FreeVonHelton Yeah, but they were still blamed for every little thing that went wrong in those days, including the Plague. And the reason they were considered the enemy was partly because everyone was jealous of their success.
@brisingerx They gained financial success through exploitation of the system. They were as Immanuel Kant stated, "A nation of swindlers."
Poor ol' Jews. All they wanted was to enter a foreign country of Goyim they deemed inferior, never assimilate, and exploit its gains. And for only that they were hated!
OK, dude, I wasn't trying to argue with you, I just was stating my opinion and what I've heard on the subject. I don't want to argue about it, so it was nice knowing you. :)
@DarkStyle0163 I too feel sympathy for Shylock. He is mistreated by everyone around him, his daughter, whom he loves and cares about much, has abandoned and betrayed him by stealing his ducats - the two only things that make his life worth living have gone away. Now Antonio, who has always treated him as scum and owes him much money, cannot pay him back, and Shylock thus is bereft from more money. The poor man wants his revenge on that awful Antonio, like all Christians do.
@t1mTV First two rules. I remember them, so I won't call you out. It's obvious now you're just a troll. I get it. I actually though you were dumb. Now I know you're not.
@t1mTV This play is clearly one that was made to prick the conscience of anti-Semitic Europe. How ignorant can you possibly be to misconstrue the central motifs of the play in such a way? Mercy, the double-edged sword of racism and the crooked power of both internal and external justice are the ideas explored, not "putting the kyke in his place". Fool.
@Ozzymoto While I also cringed at the 'kyke' remark, I'd like to say that I've seen many productions that didn't sympathise with Shylock, concentrating more on the eventual (Christian) 'justice' than on 'prejudice' (against Jews). The 'Jew' character usually gets employed by Shakespeare and Marlowe as a Machiavellian figure. But yes, I wholeheartedly agree with you that the correct reading of the play is that of a criticism of anti-Semiticism and the offshoots of racial prejudice.
@t1mTV Let me tell you something, the Jews were ridiculed and humiliated every time they were in the presence of the Christians.
They were forced to do money lending because it was a sin back then for Christians to do usury. But if its a sin why do Christians force the Jews to do it? I thought God thought mercy? If your kinsmen were treated like this for years how can you not want revenge? Shylock lent the money to his enemy which an act in itself hows he's desire for peace.
@t1mTV I get where you're coming from. I agree, it would have been the better thing to do. Shylock should have done the right thing. But he's a human being, and human beings get angry and make mistakes. Remember Shylock tried before to ignore Antonio and his friends.
In todays media, minorities need to be these wonderful examples. They can't lash out or we lose all respect for them. What if Tom Robinson punched Bob Ewell? Shylock is a human being, he shouldn't be hurt in the first place.
Workingclassbum. I think that this is exactly the reason that he shouldn't yell. This is a man who has spent his entire life as a second class citizen as you say. This is a man who has spent his entire life suppressing his emotions and trying to remain invisible to avoid arbitrary persecution from hi "betters". I think that the suppression of what must be an unmatchable rage at what has happened to him is far more potent than just shouting at someone. The gravitas is just shattered.
@Vasendec That's foolish. By your logic, Shylock should not even deliver this monologue at all. In fact, Shylock should not demand his pound of flesh and just tolerate Antonio's defaulting on the loan as just another slight that he has been conditioned to accept.
The whole point of the play is that all these slights added up and eventually led to Shylock's breakdown. I'd say Al Pacino's acting here accurately depicts that breakdown. Being some cold HAL2000 would be "shattering the gravitas".
@inconcordium Perhaps you should look up the word gravitas. Shouting is not it. I never said that the delivery should be robotic so your reference to HAL2000 is a little ill concieved. I beleive that there is more that can be communicated through simmering anger and restraint that by simply yelling every line. It leaves no room for the viewer to imagine the pain that he must be feeling. Having said that, art is subjective and you are entitled to your opinion. I was meerly voicing my preference.
@Vasendec Perhaps you should look up the word "pretentious". With your over-inflated sense of self-importance, you ought to find your picture right alongside its entry in the dictionary.
@inconcordium Wow, you really like to resort to personal attacks in order to attempt to make a point. You should stop that. It only makes you seem petty. You obviously failed to notice that I said you were entitled to your opinion and that I was voicing mine. I would hardly call that an over-inflated sense of self-importance. You shouldn't take things so personally.
@BetoCulture its not a snub the academy awards original performances, Shakespeare has been performed by a million odd actors. As great as a performance as it is I believe Oscars should go to those who perform modern original art and characters of its age that will not be perform by another actor/actress and stage awards should go to those who perform classics like these well. Who is the academy to say who is the greatest Shylock in 600 years of performance? No-one has that right.
@TheSukhberSingh - as a christian this play is embarrassing for me. the jew in this case is not above reproach, he takes the bond for a pound of flesh hoping that antonio will default, but it is also true that antonio acts disgracefully towards shylock and then when he is at the trial he acts so hard done by and pious that it makes me ill. then making shylock "become" a christian makes me almost vomit. the play shows the hypocracy of so called christians and the folly of revenge.
Pacino's Shylock draws compassion for the character from the audience and gives a very credible performance. He is very much the equal of this huge part and I for one can't wait to see his stage performance.
@rujtj I disagree given the context of the play having his daughter stolen from him by "a christen" and robbed in the process I think Shylock has every reason to be royally pissed off given the fact he's spent his entire life as a second class citizen to his christen "superiors" and now hes fighting back. It makes perfectly clear while he won't be reasonable with Antonio's "payment".
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AvrgDrummer 2 days ago
i feel bad for him at the end of the movie :(
TR4VI5 2 weeks ago 5
Christians just got pwned
noblered5 3 weeks ago
ha ha ha...found the scene...can't believe I missed that
wolfgirl8781 1 month ago
I love this monologue and think it would have been great in the play but I just read the play and didn't see it in the original Shakespeare or did I miss a whole scene....lol
wolfgirl8781 1 month ago
What a mesmerizing performance by Al Pacino! Unbelieveable! If I saw this before I become a lawyer I might have became an actor or wanted to.lol
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Pacino, stop screaming! HATH A JEW NOT EYES!!! "I feel like I know this characters," says Pacino, "He screams everything." Pacino is a rare example of how to best ruin Shakespeare.
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jerboshow 1 month ago
To be honest, I would of cried, but the boobs.....Man that spoiled it....
amyar123 1 month ago
I can't help wondering sometimes about what would've happened had Shylock asked for a torch with which to burn off the pound of flesh. The wound would have been cauterized so no "christian blood" would hit the floor. The look on Portia's face would certainly have been priceless.....
sam6350 2 months ago
@sam6350 that is true but his pound of flesh had to be exact or still he would have broken the bond as portia says if under or over by one hair the bond is forfeit
wolfgirl8781 1 month ago
@wolfgirl8781 Good point. But it would basically be a mexican standoff from a legal perspective. Shylock had nothing to lose at that point, so while his own life would be forfeit, the act of burning off the pound of flesh would also kill Antonio.
If he's backed into a corner, and the court see's he has nothing to lose, then it may be willing to allow him to back out gracefully...rather than have him commit suicide and take Antonio with him. But then it'd be a different play...
sam6350 1 month ago
@sam6350 very true.
wolfgirl8781 1 month ago
This only shows how much of a genius Shakespeare was. To write such a speech back during his time when Jews were seen in such a negative light...
asafk8 2 months ago
Christians spent thousands of years trashing Jews, and now they're big fans of Israel because they want the end of the world, based on some bullshit that a fraud prophet made up with the Rapture. At least have some respect for an older tradition with some smarter people who know a few more languages than you. Dumbass illiterate American Protestants.
ravenouscolonelhart 3 months ago
@ravenouscolonelhart I'm an atheist, but I totally agree with you. XD
TheDevilAscendant 2 months ago
@ravenouscolonelhart and jews have spent thousands of yrs trashing Christians and continue to do so.Maybe you havent seen the name of american noecons pearle,frum,wolfowitz,etc etc.
dragszes 2 months ago
It's sad that Pacino has basically become a massive parody of himself when he can do stuff like this.
jakobitis89 3 months ago
Very moving. We watched this in my class today almost all the class didn't take in a word he said, just laughed at the boobs in the backround.
Shame what our youth is like huh...
Piratezpride 3 months ago 17
@Piratezpride LOL i fully agree
Baoss11 1 month ago
@Piratezpride same with my class...:(
StarWhinge 1 week ago
nazi/muslim extremist holocaust, possible?
Petrico94 3 months ago
very touching!
TheMrmrjordan 4 months ago
One of the greatest speeches ever! Shylock has every right to revenge at Antonio and Bassanio... and I'm not saying this as a Jew. I am a Christian and i think that Antonio had NO RIGHT in doing what he did to the Jews, especially Shylock! Because he is being a hypocrite! Jesus was a Jew and he follows Jesus' laws so that means he looks down on Jesus' own people? No dumbass if i were him I would look up to the Jews after all Jesus was one and you want to right by Jesus dont yu? Stupid Antonio!
VanillaxCoca 4 months ago
@VanillaxCoca
Jesus was from Galilee, not Judea, he was not a jew. He even referred to jews as they, so to say. Just as an Irishman isn't English and a Scotsman isn't Welsh. They are British, to each his own. Dont say things to look or seem correct. If there is discontent of behalf of a people towards another people (like the drug mules that are the gypsies, its a fact) then it must be for a reason.
Another thing is being hateful, THAT is against God, which is Love. But Truth is Love as well.
lucianarg30 4 months ago
@lucianarg30 Oh? Jesus wasnt a Jew? look it up on Google tell me what you see Look it up in the Bible tell me what do you see Jesus was born in Bethelem in JUDEA Look that up as well Do your research love then come doubt my Religion I am not being hateful i am stating facts Antonio got what he deserved after all Bassanio DID tell him not to risk his life for him If you don't believe me look all of what i have just stated as well So YOU my dear shouldn't say things that don't look or seem correct
VanillaxCoca 4 months ago
@VanillaxCoca god bless google
aristotle1900 4 months ago
@lucianarg30 well said.You replied for me.Jesus was not a jew.Just as todays "jews " are not real jews.
dragszes 3 months ago
One of the greatest speeches ever! Shylock has every right to revenge at Antonio and Bassanio... and I'm not saying this as a Jew. I am a Christian and i think that Antonio had NO RIGHT in doing what he did to the Jews, especially Shylock! Because he is being a hypocrite! Jesus was a Jew and he follows Jesus' laws so that means he looks down on Jesus' own people? No dumbass if i were him I would look up to the Jews after all Jesus was one and you want to right by Jesus sont yu? Stupid Antonio!
VanillaxCoca 4 months ago
CAUSE SHE GOT A GRRREAT ASS!!!!
CoolerKing37 4 months ago
@CoolerKing37 And you've got your head ALL THE WAY UP IT!
gogetenks71 3 months ago
Lol, supposidly the writers of this film read the script wrong. If you feel for shylok, then you are reading this all wrong. This is a time where the play was made to broadcast Jews as bad people, because the english didn't know any different, and it was what people wanted to see.
An evil man who was more obsessed with revenge before money, and money before even his own daughter. He did not have 'christian humility' like he was given at the end - to the audience, Antonio is in the right.
westenev 4 months ago
bravo :)))))))
pinkykorean 5 months ago
Shylock is not the hero, reread it-- check out Portia.
clairsaint 5 months ago
I wasn't too sure Pacino could pull off Shylock when I saw the DVD in the store, but I bought it anyway. When I saw the film, his performance blew me away. One of his best performances ever.
ProfessorZaroff 5 months ago
amazing.
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FUCK THIS SHIT IS GAY, GUYS JOIN THE 21ST CENTURY YOU OLD FUCKS
anjrew94 5 months ago
@anjrew94 shut your mouth.....is it not our fault that you are an uneducated little shit. Shakespeare was and is the best. so take your little ass of this page.
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anjrew94 5 months ago
It is very impossible to combine all the doctrines and beliefs of all religion and use them to establish another one. Having an individual belief might show some good results, but oftentimes, it doesn't. It might even lead in something worse rather than make things better. And to judge religions based on what occurred in the past hardly seems fair. If you'll just judge based on history, then you will never see change and the results for one will be stuck in something that will never come back.
TheDenmarkg 5 months ago
Maybe there is. What you're trying to say may be applicable for some, but not for every religion. There are many sects in Christianity and Judaism who focuses mainly on the morality of their members, and even those that are not with them. But there are also sects that are controlled by individuals to practice their beliefs which often give negative results. Let's take the Catholics as an example. They have a leader, but the Pope leads and works for the sake of the Church, not for his own needs.
TheDenmarkg 5 months ago
this is our project in english perform this monologue of shylock AHAHA :)
ehdjoren 5 months ago
Um, is it really religion who has the problem, or the individual? If we'll just look carefully, it's not the religion who harms the person, but an individual who has negative beliefs. Isn't it that telling that Christians are evil a discrimination? Same as Jews were treated badly like we saw earlier. I hope we would realize this missing fact.
TheDenmarkg 5 months ago
@TheDenmarkg But you see, most religions have been controlled by an individual or individuals, who guide the religions with THEIR values, THEIR beliefs. And throughout history, those beliefs and values have corrupted those of their followers. THAT is the problem with organized religion. There is no individual belief. There isn't a single Christian or Jewish Church that accepts ALL views of God under one roof. There is no individual, there is the group, as directed by an Individual.
Croecho 5 months ago
fact is, idiots throughout history has made religion seem evil. if people didnt do stupid sacrifices (like the myans) or argue over the simple fact of who owns the promise land (crusades) den it would be a less peaceful world, but dont say it as if religion is the utter most evil. religion has its positives and negatives, and so does being an atheist.
forgothispassword 5 months ago
I thought i read somewhere that Shylock was portrayed as a clown for many years before he became a serious role. Is this true?
GeneralCalypso 5 months ago
how is he not the hero he is the one that suffers he could have taken the money and thats it but thats not the point that shakespeare was trying to show. jews were the ones that suffered thats wat he was trying to show and how they were treated like non humans was horrible. he was not greedy in anyway just stood up for his rights of humanity
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Wow, this is really great! I remember learning this in school
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marjansiklic1 5 months ago
this is a story about a revenge. this is a beautiful story. i have been recite this infront of the class and it is so emotional. i;m a gr.6 student but this a highschool piece but we can recite this.
audreybarrera11 6 months ago
there's no words left to say ..
I <3 Al Pacino so much
MrRayofmind 6 months ago
No one in this play is qualified to wear a white hat or be deemed a hero. Each has their own flaws and setbacks, which is what makes this play, and indeed many other Shakespearean plays, so problematic and thought-provoking! Al Pacino is an awesome actor.
imova 6 months ago
I believe Shakespeare wanted to show that all people are the same, We saw Shylock love his daughter, pain when she left him, saw him humiliated, saw him happy, saw him crawl and we saw many sides of emotions all the humans have.
At the court u could see jews who didnt agree with his point maybe showing that we should not judge a race or religion by the actions of one man.
Every man has feelings and everybody is equal, Shakespeare pointed that out in his way and in his own age, thats how I c it
OutlawedAngel1 6 months ago
absolutely fabulous, shakespeare you legend,
i have to do this as a monologue at school and al pacino sets a great example, thanks shakespeare!
THUMBS UP
Herb323232 6 months ago
I feel for you Shylock
Jordie389 7 months ago
I'm him in our school play xD
Emothiks09 7 months ago
Whoo ah!
improvisedcinema1 8 months ago
FUCK SHEETT.... I can't stop laughing on the line: If yoOOuu PWWWIIICKKK US!! do we not bliiid?
parokyaadik 8 months ago
Im a student from UST so I'm watching this
aldeeoink 8 months ago
@aldeeoink so am I lol
cholo12175 8 months ago
@cholo12175 of course, you're a second year student right?
aldeeoink 8 months ago
@aldeeoink yup
cholo12175 8 months ago
Pacino. Is. Other. Worldy.
weirdoevil 9 months ago
The best and most passioned monologue i have ever heard and read!!!!!
InbornBerlin 9 months ago
Pacino is absolutely brilliant.
ayment 9 months ago 15
This speech is probably one of my favourite speeches of all times. It has so much meaning and emotion to it that you basically felt how Jew's lives were so hard to live by in these times. I also think its important for all people to realize that no matter what WE'RE ALL EQUAL and we all are human beings with REAL FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS.
mesich22 9 months ago
The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.
redcorona14 9 months ago
What a performance.
Adrillius 10 months ago
What act/scene of the play is this from?
cutebutconfused1 10 months ago
Exactly why I love Shylock so much. Other portrayals of oppressed people always have them suffering peacefully and taking the abuse. But that isn't realistic. It's not right to lash out, but it is understandable. And an expected part of the human reaction which emphasizes the original cruelty. To portray Jews, blacks, women, whatever, simply taking the abuse as pacifists and pretending that none of them ever felt a want for revenge is to deny their humanity and make them cutesy cutouts.
fizzypopism 11 months ago
ooooaaaah!
NOt bad mr pacino. Ben kingsley was much better though -
Ben kingsley as edmund kean part 3
archangul 11 months ago
Perhaps I've seen too many Pacino movies, don't know...can't help it, but watching this, I am always waiting for Pacino to light a cigarette, take a big gun and scream something like: "Yea, I'm f*cking jew but a f*cking jew with a f*cking gun and it's f*cking loaded, you son of a bitch, don't you push your luck, DON'T push IT you son of a BITCH! … "
jagicgn 11 months ago 5
Shylock clearly is the hero in the play. He is a noble man trapped in a severly inegaliterian society. He tries to live alongside the christians but time and time again they abuse and torture him and for what, he's a jew? The christians are the true villains. Caught up in their racial discrimination and spurning the poor Shylock for the mere fact that he is different. Shylock is a total hero trapped in a world full of hatrid and animosity.
KarlD93 11 months ago 35
@KarlD93 I wouldn't go that far. Shakespeare was way ahead of his time in providing characters who were ethnic minorities with a real human voice. But Shakespeare still believed that baptism for Shylock (ie forced conversion) was in the end good. Now I like Shakespeare, but I don't demand that his values concur with mine, and I know that they don't. In my view Shylock is a man playing the villain's role in a comedy where he can't win (contrast Iago), but he's still very human.
ravenouscolonelhart 11 months ago
@KarlD93
You didn't wrong, but that's not exactly true. There are two heroes in "The Merchant": Shylock by one side, and Portia by the other. She is the only character who doesn't belong to the world of Venice, and if she is not bad with Shylock: she punishes him only to save Antonio, not because he is a Jew. But I completely agree with you about the others (Bassanio is a fucking asshole, Gratiano is a dumb, Jessica is...I don't want to tell it).
dapontemozart1989 11 months ago
@dapontemozart1989
Shylock is a victim of circumstance. Trapped in the world of hatrid he has no choice but to rebuke the christians who have spurned him countless times. "The villany you teach me I shall execute and it shall go hard.". This is the point in the play when Shylock realises he cannot reason with the hateful christians who spit on him and call him cut throat dog. He may be seen as a villain but his villany is the fault of the ruthless christians.
KarlD93 11 months ago
True the concept of outsiders inside the larger spectrum is a good idea. Shylock was constantly spat at and vilified by everyone in Venice even his own daughter who secretly confessed she wanted to convert. In that regard, Karl is right, Shylock is indeed a victim of circumstance but because he was an outsider who was constantly harrassed because of his ethnicity. However, I don't know if Portia didn't belong in Venice that's really unsubstantiated because that's not implied in the play.
anthonytd103 10 months ago
@KarlD93 actually thats just a modern view. when the play was written, jews were seen in a very negative light, and he was supposed to be the villain. its obvious that shakespeare sympathized with shylock, or he wouldnt have written such great lines for him. other than that though, the rest of his lines can be played as an evil guy trying to get his revenge and then some. back in shakespeare's day, audiences cheered when shylock got his "comeuppance" and forced to become a christian in the end.
thedandynad 10 months ago 5
@thedandynad
"actually thats just a modern view. when the play was written, jews were seen in a very negative light"
Jews are still seen in a negative light.
Everyone blames the Jews for everything.
Romansteel13 2 months ago
@KarlD93 shylock having been persecuted does not make him a "hero". While i agree totally that he is unjustly treated throughout the story he meets their taunts ( after a great deal of patience) with brutal revenge. I feel he's a badass for doing so but no matter put down upon someone is it does not make them a "hero". a man of great temperance or patience perhaps but not a "hero".
Ps This is one of the best depictions of this monologue I've seen.
ricketydoodah 8 months ago 2
@KarlD93 I wouldn't say Shylock is a complete hero. He has his fair share of flaws. Ultimately the play comes down compassion. Shylock reveals in the court that he has none for the Christians. Now that may be beacuse of his treatment by them, but it does not excuse his lack of it.
The best thing about MoV is that it is a social commentary without a true protagonist. I didn't find myself sympathising with the Christians or with Shylock - but I was utterly hooked on the play. Only in Shakespeare.
midbsaj 8 months ago 2
@KarlD93 bullshit. he is greedy to the point of murder. he is the villain.
Tonyokay87 7 months ago
@KarlD93 Shylock is a devil enemy of humanity for the publication of usury and corruption
anapple333 6 months ago
@KarlD93 Face it, Religion in general is the villain in almost every situation.
sickbro69 5 months ago
@sickbro69 fact is, idiots throughout history has made religion seem evil. if people didnt do stupid sacrifices (like the myans) or argue over the simple fact of who owns the promise land (crusades) den it would be a less peaceful worlds, but dont say it as if religion is the utter most evil. religion has its positives and negatives, and so does being an atheist.
forgothispassword 5 months ago
@forgothispassword no, throughout history the church has tried to fuck up the evolution of humanity. Honestly, Religion was born in a time when humanity was still immature. Religion is about sacrifice and promised lands; nobody can do anything in the name of atheism, they're just dick heads who don't believe in God. But people do despicable things in the name of their God. people HATE and kill in the name of God.
sickbro69 5 months ago
@KarlD93 Shylock plays the villan , ploting his evil scheme to get his pound of flesh
LThomaaas 4 months ago
@KarlD93 FUCKING LOVELY
LocoNativoz 4 months ago
@KarlD93 Partially correct. Shylock is the victim of circumstance and his actions are a response to the antisemitism he has experienced at the hands of the Christians (and his frustration with his daughter for having fled with a Christian). If we're talking about character function, though, Portia, not Shylock, is the hero. She is the character that restores order to the play, resolving the conflict established by Shylock demanding compensation for his bond.
pencap23 4 months ago
@KarlD93 Hero? No. Anti-hero? Yes.
Aquill0 4 months ago
@Aquill0 Tragic Hero is more like it
SakuraRosalie 4 months ago
@SakuraRosalie If you talking about the old meaning of tragic, then I'd completely agree: he is responsible for his own demise.
Aquill0 4 months ago
this will really help me in my monologue tmrw! :)
lovableclicli 1 year ago
Shylock is a very complicated character. he does hate christians due to the abuse he suffers but he is still a very nasty person.
TherealMrChristophel 1 year ago
Just, from the point of view of the play, and of Shakespeare's, I think Shylock is a villain cos history has left him no other choice than this: if we spoiled Bassanio&co. of their fictional role of "positive characters", wouldn't they be just bastards mocking at an old man only for being of another religion? I think Shakespeare is aware of this, and on the other hand he still belongs to THAT age so he can't help putting everything against the Jew.
Am I wrong? :o
Solomentale 1 year ago
yeah,, great shylock.. i adore you,,
youve got your reasons but i still pity you, awtch
acemiyazaki 1 year ago
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and whats his reason? i am achoo!! gesundheit shylock
jew25624 1 year ago
@jew25624 ihihih c'mon! :)
Solomentale 1 year ago
Take a chill pill Shylock.
ldogec 1 year ago
I like the way that he does it, I've seen other performances where the actor makes this speech sound so unfeeling, but I really do think that Shakespeare was trying to make a statement about how much sh** Jews have gotten and how they deserve sympathy. Al Pacino is awesome.
brisingerx 1 year ago 3
@brisingerx Nope, Jews have had more than enough money to make up for any apparent wrongs. Your average Jew probably was a lot better off than a gentile peasant.
FreeVonHelton 1 year ago
@FreeVonHelton Yeah, but they were still blamed for every little thing that went wrong in those days, including the Plague. And the reason they were considered the enemy was partly because everyone was jealous of their success.
brisingerx 1 year ago
@brisingerx They gained financial success through exploitation of the system. They were as Immanuel Kant stated, "A nation of swindlers."
Poor ol' Jews. All they wanted was to enter a foreign country of Goyim they deemed inferior, never assimilate, and exploit its gains. And for only that they were hated!
FreeVonHelton 1 year ago
@FreeVonHelton
OK, dude, I wasn't trying to argue with you, I just was stating my opinion and what I've heard on the subject. I don't want to argue about it, so it was nice knowing you. :)
brisingerx 1 year ago
@brisingerx I won!! (;
FreeVonHelton 1 year ago
@FreeVonHelton mkay
brisingerx 1 year ago
@brisingerx yep (:
FreeVonHelton 1 year ago
@FreeVonHelton right up until the mob came round.
TherealMrChristophel 1 year ago
Never borrow money from Micheal Corleone - even if he's wearing a nice beard - unless you're darn sure you can pay it back.
GusMcAttisonMusic 1 year ago 4
amazing . .
mACky0199 1 year ago 2
he's amazing.
brisingerx 1 year ago 2
This is definately my favorite interpretation. But, would directors approve of it?
TheActorrManuel 1 year ago
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i have no sympathy for shylock. he could have taken the money offered but instead he decided to be a whiny little kyke and demand the flesh.
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV I do feel sorry for him because he has noone or nothing, but still good point on your part.
DarkStyle0163 1 year ago 5
@DarkStyle0163 I too feel sympathy for Shylock. He is mistreated by everyone around him, his daughter, whom he loves and cares about much, has abandoned and betrayed him by stealing his ducats - the two only things that make his life worth living have gone away. Now Antonio, who has always treated him as scum and owes him much money, cannot pay him back, and Shylock thus is bereft from more money. The poor man wants his revenge on that awful Antonio, like all Christians do.
EvaSwa 1 year ago 3
@t1mTV stop saying kyke you dick head
mouldywort 1 year ago 3
@mouldywort U MAD BRO?
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV Antisemitic idiot. There's a real message, and all you can acknowledge is his religion. It's filth like you that feed hate groups.
soccerprog226 1 year ago 2
@soccerprog226 actually Im not anti semetic, I just hate jews. kykes arent the only semetic peoples.
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV And hating Jews makes you any better? Fuck off, stupid bigot.
soccerprog226 1 year ago
@soccerprog226 U MAD BRO?
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV First two rules. I remember them, so I won't call you out. It's obvious now you're just a troll. I get it. I actually though you were dumb. Now I know you're not.
soccerprog226 1 year ago
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@soccerprog226 I do actually hate kykes though.
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV Umadbro?
soccerprog226 1 year ago
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@soccerprog226 leave it to a kyke to be unoriginal.
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV Atheist*.
Yeaumad.
soccerprog226 1 year ago
@soccerprog226 cool story bro.
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV Yeaumad.
soccerprog226 1 year ago
@soccerprog226 u mad! u mad!
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV you should both hear and listen to the soliloquy, at that time, the answer to all if honor is disgraced, REVENGE.
ParthianImmortal 1 year ago
@ParthianImmortal yes exactly, thats why antonio's revenge against him was so much more sweet. he put that kyke in its place.
t1mTV 1 year ago
@t1mTV This play is clearly one that was made to prick the conscience of anti-Semitic Europe. How ignorant can you possibly be to misconstrue the central motifs of the play in such a way? Mercy, the double-edged sword of racism and the crooked power of both internal and external justice are the ideas explored, not "putting the kyke in his place". Fool.
Ozzymoto 1 year ago 4
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@Ozzymoto you mad bro?
t1mTV 1 year ago
@Ozzymoto While I also cringed at the 'kyke' remark, I'd like to say that I've seen many productions that didn't sympathise with Shylock, concentrating more on the eventual (Christian) 'justice' than on 'prejudice' (against Jews). The 'Jew' character usually gets employed by Shakespeare and Marlowe as a Machiavellian figure. But yes, I wholeheartedly agree with you that the correct reading of the play is that of a criticism of anti-Semiticism and the offshoots of racial prejudice.
mydog8u2 1 year ago
@t1mTV Let me tell you something, the Jews were ridiculed and humiliated every time they were in the presence of the Christians.
They were forced to do money lending because it was a sin back then for Christians to do usury. But if its a sin why do Christians force the Jews to do it? I thought God thought mercy? If your kinsmen were treated like this for years how can you not want revenge? Shylock lent the money to his enemy which an act in itself hows he's desire for peace.
Ryodisis 1 year ago
@t1mTV I get where you're coming from. I agree, it would have been the better thing to do. Shylock should have done the right thing. But he's a human being, and human beings get angry and make mistakes. Remember Shylock tried before to ignore Antonio and his friends.
In todays media, minorities need to be these wonderful examples. They can't lash out or we lose all respect for them. What if Tom Robinson punched Bob Ewell? Shylock is a human being, he shouldn't be hurt in the first place.
fizzypopism 11 months ago
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@fizzypopism jews are not humans.
t1mTV 11 months ago
@t1mTV
did you even watch the video..?
nhytgbvfeco2 8 months ago
@t1mTV fuck you, you are an arrogant prick, take that kyke and shove it up your ass and see if you bleed the same as a jew then you nazi fuck
tavenlee123 10 months ago
@tavenlee123 you mad jew?
t1mTV 10 months ago
@t1mTV yeah but if you think about it , on his part its not about the money its about showing that jew or christians penalties are the same to all.
hovamuzik99 10 months ago
@t1mTV its ok u have no life, and can't understand that someone can't complain about not having equal rights
ericleticia 10 months ago
an underated movie with Al Pacino
vrietmet 1 year ago
he's doing it on Broadway--anyone got free tickets they don't need?
vivascargill 1 year ago
Absolutely superb. Pacino's performance is in this film breathtaking. I highly recommend watching the movie in its entirety (read the play first).
AgApE010 1 year ago 6
Workingclassbum. I think that this is exactly the reason that he shouldn't yell. This is a man who has spent his entire life as a second class citizen as you say. This is a man who has spent his entire life suppressing his emotions and trying to remain invisible to avoid arbitrary persecution from hi "betters". I think that the suppression of what must be an unmatchable rage at what has happened to him is far more potent than just shouting at someone. The gravitas is just shattered.
Vasendec 1 year ago
@Vasendec That's foolish. By your logic, Shylock should not even deliver this monologue at all. In fact, Shylock should not demand his pound of flesh and just tolerate Antonio's defaulting on the loan as just another slight that he has been conditioned to accept.
The whole point of the play is that all these slights added up and eventually led to Shylock's breakdown. I'd say Al Pacino's acting here accurately depicts that breakdown. Being some cold HAL2000 would be "shattering the gravitas".
inconcordium 1 year ago
@inconcordium Perhaps you should look up the word gravitas. Shouting is not it. I never said that the delivery should be robotic so your reference to HAL2000 is a little ill concieved. I beleive that there is more that can be communicated through simmering anger and restraint that by simply yelling every line. It leaves no room for the viewer to imagine the pain that he must be feeling. Having said that, art is subjective and you are entitled to your opinion. I was meerly voicing my preference.
Vasendec 9 months ago
@Vasendec Perhaps you should look up the word "pretentious". With your over-inflated sense of self-importance, you ought to find your picture right alongside its entry in the dictionary.
inconcordium 9 months ago
@inconcordium Wow, you really like to resort to personal attacks in order to attempt to make a point. You should stop that. It only makes you seem petty. You obviously failed to notice that I said you were entitled to your opinion and that I was voicing mine. I would hardly call that an over-inflated sense of self-importance. You shouldn't take things so personally.
Vasendec 8 months ago
I have a clip of Mel Gibson giving this speech (SERIOUSLY!)
/watch?v=HWfsnxQHI34
YesWeCantaloupe 1 year ago
@YesWeCantaloupe
No kidding! How ironic is that?
carolitakohen 1 year ago
The Acadamy snub Al performance, he deserve a nomitation
BetoCulture 1 year ago 3
@BetoCulture its not a snub the academy awards original performances, Shakespeare has been performed by a million odd actors. As great as a performance as it is I believe Oscars should go to those who perform modern original art and characters of its age that will not be perform by another actor/actress and stage awards should go to those who perform classics like these well. Who is the academy to say who is the greatest Shylock in 600 years of performance? No-one has that right.
workingclassbum 1 year ago
thumbs up! i love it. really great. :)
tarleton30 1 year ago
We're doing the Merchant of Venice in my local drama group. You should hear our Shylock, he is simply amazing.
MissMiffed 1 year ago
I've seen the movie before, but I really didn't understand it. Was the purpose of the play to show that the Jews are no less then the Christians?
TheSukhberSingh 1 year ago
@TheSukhberSingh i think so, but hitler used this play to spread anti semitism so who knows....
Pooternackle 1 year ago
@TheSukhberSingh - as a christian this play is embarrassing for me. the jew in this case is not above reproach, he takes the bond for a pound of flesh hoping that antonio will default, but it is also true that antonio acts disgracefully towards shylock and then when he is at the trial he acts so hard done by and pious that it makes me ill. then making shylock "become" a christian makes me almost vomit. the play shows the hypocracy of so called christians and the folly of revenge.
fowzie777 1 year ago
in our class, we had to memorize and (kinda) act it out. we memorized shylock's speech and portia's....
chekwet 1 year ago
great.
xiahj14 1 year ago
Pacino's Shylock draws compassion for the character from the audience and gives a very credible performance. He is very much the equal of this huge part and I for one can't wait to see his stage performance.
obriensheila 1 year ago
i actually had to recite this in a competition. Memories!
TheUrbanZone 1 year ago
BECAUSE SHE'S GOT A GREAT AAASSSS!!!!
digvoldon 1 year ago 44
@digvoldon I'D TAKE A FUCKIN FLAME THROWER TO THIS PLACE!!!!
MrSalamander7 1 year ago 2
I heard this monologue after Orson Welles did it, and it's a little bit disturbing.
Pacino likes to yell, but this time it's not the right time.
rujtj 1 year ago
@rujtj agree
also he did it far too fast which took away the moment
fiveminutestotroll 1 year ago
@rujtj I disagree given the context of the play having his daughter stolen from him by "a christen" and robbed in the process I think Shylock has every reason to be royally pissed off given the fact he's spent his entire life as a second class citizen to his christen "superiors" and now hes fighting back. It makes perfectly clear while he won't be reasonable with Antonio's "payment".
workingclassbum 1 year ago 2