I think you should use an electric motor to work as an alternator and one smaller battery to do the electrolysis because a large battery pack, well lead acid, is going to be very heavy, my go cart on my channel weighs over 200lbs and is almost impossible to pick up alone and all that weight is really going to effect your performance, these engines dont have a lot of torque
@anupamvipul233 Thought about that too.. If you had a home filling station and you filled a small tank, say the size of a propane tank, then you would technically be riding around with a hydrogen bomb. That's probably not a good idea seeing as how the technology is still slowly being accepted in society.
This is a two stroke engine and that presents some serious issues if you want to convert to water. The mixture will go below the crank while the mixture at the top is combusted. Ignition timing is always between 25 and 36º degrees. Since hydroxy combust infinitely faster than fossil fuels you'll need to fire after tdc. Since the exhaust port of a two stroke is spreadout around 90º down stroke there could exist a serious overlap between incoming fresh mixture and outgoing burnt or burning mix
@9Barry009 Yes, that's exactly what we have been disusing. A 4-stroke motor is going to be better for this.. IT has a separate oil tank. Now I just need to find one.
If you're running that off of hydrogen as opposed to 2 stroke mix, which is oil and petrol (petroil, whatever you wanna call it) what do you use as a lubricant for the engine?
@choochoo67 I've been using an AFMT (Anti friction metal treatment). It work well but I don't know how long I can run before treating it again. I think a 4-stroke is the way to go. These small Chinese engines are prone to ceasing.
why not make it powered by gasoline vapor. youll get like 1000mpg on that thing lol(im jk i dont know exactly how much, dont take that seriously) but youll get alot. the fun part is figuring out how to throttle with it.
there's no water! At what point do I see the water? I saw a gas powered bike run on what I assume to be gas. Take a drink, pour the rest in the empty tank and go ride.
Again: This bike is not POWERED by WATER. The hydrogen is produced by those batteries, which need to be charged with electricity created at an electric power plant. This bike is powered by COAL!
You can get the pull starter for $24 online. I originally got it but then I found out I would need to do a modification to the crank so it doesn't hit.
Why not try making a hybrid? Use the gas for lubrication, and simply have a hydrogen tank, put both in the intake, and that way you'd have 50/50/1 (gas/hydro/oil). Unfortunately there aren't any lubricated 2-strokes (2 strokes are more efficient) All mix. Actually there are a few, but none like that.
That is exactly what I did. Unfortunately my camera broke and I can't post updates yet. The problem I am running into now it bulk & weight. I've added 36Lbs converting to a hybrid but I do have a lot more power, and the exhaust is much cleaner.
Unfortunately this 2 stroke engine will not run off hydrogen because its doesn't have a means of lubricating itself. So for now I have to wait until I can buy the 4 stroke to experiment.
Yeah, I agree the engine is choppy. I think that is because its using needle bearings. There is a lot of vibration. This is the biggest kit that I've seen though. It is the 80cc model. I've been tinkering and I think its going to be more practical to use a 4 stroke. That way I don't have to worry about the lubrication system.
Engine sounds a bit choppy, but seems to be pretty peppy. Is that their biggest/quietest muffler? Gotta feel good making this much progress. Can't wait to see the water/HHO conversion. Hope you show install vids of that too. Excellent project!
Do it right & just go electric. Hydrogen is going nowhere.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
where do you get the engine kit? i want to install one on my beach cruiser
awbear619 1 year ago
too bad the rider doesn't realise the motor is to save you from pedaling,lol, he's pedalling the whole time!
cappy6921 1 year ago
I think you should use an electric motor to work as an alternator and one smaller battery to do the electrolysis because a large battery pack, well lead acid, is going to be very heavy, my go cart on my channel weighs over 200lbs and is almost impossible to pick up alone and all that weight is really going to effect your performance, these engines dont have a lot of torque
rayr84a63y42 1 year ago
way cool
wolfgang8u 1 year ago
there is nothing water powered about that bike you god damn liar.
Donninator1 1 year ago
i have the same lights and spedo on mine, however my spedo doesnt work once the motor is engaged... how does urs work? did u mod it?
tskrem 1 year ago
THEN make an electric bike not 2 loop of energy
anupamvipul233 1 year ago
Dont add battery then it will take 2 fuel water and electricity BAD idea
go on hydrogen install hydrogen station in home not on the bike
anupamvipul233 1 year ago
@anupamvipul233 Thought about that too.. If you had a home filling station and you filled a small tank, say the size of a propane tank, then you would technically be riding around with a hydrogen bomb. That's probably not a good idea seeing as how the technology is still slowly being accepted in society.
kdessinger 1 year ago
This is a two stroke engine and that presents some serious issues if you want to convert to water. The mixture will go below the crank while the mixture at the top is combusted. Ignition timing is always between 25 and 36º degrees. Since hydroxy combust infinitely faster than fossil fuels you'll need to fire after tdc. Since the exhaust port of a two stroke is spreadout around 90º down stroke there could exist a serious overlap between incoming fresh mixture and outgoing burnt or burning mix
9Barry009 1 year ago
@9Barry009 Yes, that's exactly what we have been disusing. A 4-stroke motor is going to be better for this.. IT has a separate oil tank. Now I just need to find one.
kdessinger 1 year ago
If you're running that off of hydrogen as opposed to 2 stroke mix, which is oil and petrol (petroil, whatever you wanna call it) what do you use as a lubricant for the engine?
choochoo67 2 years ago
Thats what i was thinking,it can be done on hydrogen as it needs the oil/lube within the fuel mixture
fpvshitsonhsv 2 years ago
@choochoo67 I've been using an AFMT (Anti friction metal treatment). It work well but I don't know how long I can run before treating it again. I think a 4-stroke is the way to go. These small Chinese engines are prone to ceasing.
kdessinger 1 year ago
why not make it powered by gasoline vapor. youll get like 1000mpg on that thing lol(im jk i dont know exactly how much, dont take that seriously) but youll get alot. the fun part is figuring out how to throttle with it.
lkrux 2 years ago
there's no water! At what point do I see the water? I saw a gas powered bike run on what I assume to be gas. Take a drink, pour the rest in the empty tank and go ride.
sseisup 2 years ago
Again: This bike is not POWERED by WATER. The hydrogen is produced by those batteries, which need to be charged with electricity created at an electric power plant. This bike is powered by COAL!
MetGuy9966 2 years ago
What if you use solar power to charge those batteries, not necessarily coal...
alexcandy1411 2 years ago
Good idea until you figure out the cost of the solar cells and associated hardware -- Not Cheap. Go ahead if you think it will work for you.
Please understand that these engines are NOT powered by water, and most people charge their batteries with coal.
MetGuy9966 2 years ago
Negative comment him all you want but he isn't lying. Coal and water creating electricty is what gives you enough electricty to create the Hydrogen.
brown55061 2 years ago
Why did he pedal it?
larry40m 2 years ago
Because you can do both Pedal + motor. If you pedal why the motor is running you take a bunch of strain off the motor and you go faster and faster.
kdessinger 2 years ago
you also pedal to start the motor in this kit there is no pull start
pissinacup666 2 years ago
You can get the pull starter for $24 online. I originally got it but then I found out I would need to do a modification to the crank so it doesn't hit.
kdessinger 2 years ago
this is awsome, i bought a bike berry kit for my used bike i bought and i hope it works this well with gas
jackisdafish 2 years ago
Why not try making a hybrid? Use the gas for lubrication, and simply have a hydrogen tank, put both in the intake, and that way you'd have 50/50/1 (gas/hydro/oil). Unfortunately there aren't any lubricated 2-strokes (2 strokes are more efficient) All mix. Actually there are a few, but none like that.
techforumz 3 years ago
That is exactly what I did. Unfortunately my camera broke and I can't post updates yet. The problem I am running into now it bulk & weight. I've added 36Lbs converting to a hybrid but I do have a lot more power, and the exhaust is much cleaner.
kdessinger 3 years ago
Waterpowed..engine sounds 'choppy' HAHA !
johnnysjukebox 3 years ago
dude seriusly you have to upgrade the brakes on that thing
gdjohny 3 years ago
Your not kidding. I lost a rear brake shoe while riding some trails. I'd love to get a set of the disc brakes.
kdessinger 3 years ago
Where is it waterpowered?
Energermany 3 years ago
Unfortunately this 2 stroke engine will not run off hydrogen because its doesn't have a means of lubricating itself. So for now I have to wait until I can buy the 4 stroke to experiment.
kdessinger 3 years ago
Yeah, I agree the engine is choppy. I think that is because its using needle bearings. There is a lot of vibration. This is the biggest kit that I've seen though. It is the 80cc model. I've been tinkering and I think its going to be more practical to use a 4 stroke. That way I don't have to worry about the lubrication system.
kdessinger 3 years ago
Engine sounds a bit choppy, but seems to be pretty peppy. Is that their biggest/quietest muffler? Gotta feel good making this much progress. Can't wait to see the water/HHO conversion. Hope you show install vids of that too. Excellent project!
1WayBlues 3 years ago