@sup3ertraamp and @374kaitiemac : Bon Iver is not technically the band, just Justin's stage name. When he was at his father's cabin writing "For Emma, Forever Ago" he was watching old episodes of Northern Exposure. One of the episodes was called 'Bon Iver' and he liked the name. That particular episode was referring to the French phrase.
@thereselovesmakeup13 it's pronounced bon (like the name bonnie) EE-vair (with a long e). it's a play on the french words "bonne hiver" which means "good winter".
@sup3rtraamp What's the play on words? Just spelling it Americanized? Genuine question, I did recall its French pronunciation so before seeing it in text last year when friends talked about him I looked up bonne hiver and couldn't find anything :)
@374kaitiemac yeah, i suppose "play on words" wasn't the most eloquent phrase, because there isn't really a pun or anything intended lol(at least to my knowledge). just a different spelling, and i suppose i could agree on your "spelling it americanized" because if i had never enrolled in a french class i would probably spell it that way, too. LOL
If you don't appreciate him as a vocalist, at least appreciate his amazing lyricism. I know this isn't exactly the best example seeing as it's a cover, but do not judge him based on this. I adore it, but I get that people have their opinions. If you can't appreciate the voice, at least appreciate simply the musician that he is
I wish I had something witty to say, some turn of phrase to praise the purity of expression an artist like Bon Iver gives night after night. I just know that I seek to praise even the worst stuff I see on here, if only for a minute. I'm not great, nor am I awesome, but me and my opinions don't have to be bulletproof to escape the utter banality of hate for hate's sake. When I say something, something difficult to categorize as for or against, I don't care what callous bile others vomit.
I think it sounds nice. However, I could also see this getting really tired, and ripe for parody. Remember "The forty year-old virgin"? They worked in an electronics store that played Michael MacDonald all day long. I could see a future comedy where the main character was tortured by Bon Ivor all day, with his falsetto and his soulful faces.
@BonIverSUCKS to me your name says a lot about your personality... i am 100% certain you have not made anything close to the beauty this man has created.
hes very genuine. he didnt ask for any of this you guys, we did. all those picking him apart disrespect the fact that he is a human not some fucking peice of paper you can rip to shreds.
Just for the record, Bon Iver is doing a cover of Leon Russel song for you, not Donnie Hathaway. Hathaway covered Leon's song a couple years later. Leon is the man.
i find it incredible that now justin is getting pretty famous he's getting a lot of criticism. i don't know how people can fault the guy, he really seems quite genuine and modest, people seem to be getting him confused with some of the bullshit pretentious bands that are popping up on the scene at the moment. i suggest watching this version of the track also: /watch?v=Q3VjaCy5gck
it may seem kinda twisted, but it's actually quite simple: the more people notice you, the more criticism there will be PLUS the ones who go for the "his stuff was better when he wasn't hip" PLUS those who have not idea what they're talking about. Equals: lots n lots of haters. Sad.
@mynameisjongreen I very much agree. He's just being himself, and he just happens to be awesome. (Plus, he's from my state! Which makes me happy. :) )
This is my first time hearing Bon Iver after hearing good things about him and I'm so not impressed. I could not sit here and listen to this voice for any amount of time. I'll have to go check out his other stuff because this just can't be it. I feel like he should at least be playing his own piano if he's doing a cover.
@cdame ..alright, first: how do you judge ones musical ability by a cover? Why would this be the first thing you listen to from him- something he did not even write? Second, though Justin plays piano he is not a pianist he is in all shape, a guitarist- even so, in the releasing of this album bon iver has transcended from a solo act to a band- its kind of self fulfilling when you get on the stage solo and you're touring with a band, dont you think? I'm not saying you have to like bon iver but god
I happened to come across this video searching for something else, so this is why I said it's the first I've heard from the group. About all the transcending and self-fulfillment - I'll take your word for it (lack of punctuation and all). Don't get so offended. Even Bon Iver fans are posting here saying it's not exactly his greatest work.
I happened to come across this video searching for something else, so this is why I said it's the first I've heard from the group. About all the transcending and self-fulfillment - I'll take your word for it (lack of punctuation and all). Don't get so offended. Even Bon Iver fans are posting here saying it's not exactly the greatest work.
I honestly couldn't care less about his backstory. I picked up his record on chance at my local shop, and its artwork looked like Winter, and I was looking for that seasonal kind of feel. It sounded better than expected, and he's pretty solid live(not in my top 20, but certainly good).
I mean, it's the music that matters. Justin Vernon may just be a dick. He may be rich. Doesn't invalidate his stuff. Lots of very popular "humble" musicians are huge pricks, but their music still resonates well
Correction: "A Song for You" was composed by Leon Russell. The confusion is understandable because the song has been covered by over 40 other artists, including Donny Hathaway, whose version was exquisitely done and very popular.
Genius. This...THIS is how you cover a song-- by making it your own. (I'm talking mainly of "I Can't Make You Love Me"). What this brother lacks in vocal prowess he more than makes up for in soul and originality. Add to: Favorites.
@damienmetalwind Sure, but we're not in North Korea. I didn't say absolutely everyone was capable, because not everyone is. Of course the media has influence over us. It influences me. It influences you too, on an hourly basis. It's impossible to be immune. It's dismissive and pretentious to suggest you're the only one who "knows better."
You dismiss all covers then? If he only covered songs, I might see the point, but that's not the case. An opinion doesn't have to be sound to be valid.
@radioheadwine 1. what is dismissive and pretentious about objectivity? 2. I don't dismiss all covers. I just think it isn't the mark of a talented musician to sing a cover in corny falsetto, people do it at karaoke bars daily. 3. Wow...opinions are inherently valid? That's great. Their inherent validity does not, however, render them beyond reproach. We've both taken shits before, yet you seem to think that if the accompanying flatulence is high pitched, it becomes a work of art. It doesn't.
@damienmetalwind HA. Corny falsetto? Do you know ANYTHING about current music? Justin Vernon has one of the most soulful, forlorn, damaged and yet beautiful voices in today's music industry. Check your pre-conceived notions at the fucking door; this is music at it's finest.
These people aren't calling Bon Iver's music beautiful because it involves a high-pitched voice. It's because that voice is gorgeous and tells stories in a way that you wish you could. WATCH the performance. He's for real.
@DiceExpress17 My "preconceived notions" come from knowing this asshole. Soul is earned through hardship, but he never struggled for anything. Other Eau Claire bands are broke, eating buttered noodles for dinner, and working day jobs. Justin just lays around in his rich daddy's cabin (which is bigger than a lot of homes) and writes songs. Other bands tour, hoping to change their shitty life, Justin tours because he's bored. He never paid his dues, but has built a career pretending he has.
@damienmetalwind Once again I scoff at your all-knowing presence. Never paid his dues my ass. In no time, the guy lost his band, which was his livelihood, a relationship, and became extremely ill. Just because he has money does NOT, by any means, indicate a sense of entitlement and snobbishness. He doesn't tour because he's bored, he tours because he has something to say. I understand the plight of up-and-coming bands. But Justin exploded because he gave people what they need: beautiful music.
@DiceExpress17 He didn't lose his band--he abandoned them on tour (and left each member in debt to his father. Awesome). The band was never his livelihood. His dad always paid his bills, and he floated through life like Billy Madison. I'm not saying that being born rich made him a dick, just that he always was a conceited dick.
It's sad to me that he has fooled people into believing that he came from nothing, and that he has larger social concerns. His media image is the reverse of real life.
@damienmetalwind Nobody ever said he came from nothing in this conversation. I never, ever, ever said that. He took a talent he was born with and turned it into something the entire world can enjoy... sans you, a grumpy person who has seemingly researched Justin Vernon's entire life to simply play Devil's Advocate on YouTube against people who enjoy his music.
See how pathetic you are? Maybe you don't like him. It's still beautiful music that everybody should enjoy. Get over yourself. Please.
@DiceExpress17 Dude, chill. All I've said is that a big part of his appeal is that he's " a down-to-earth, soulful guy who spent 4 months suffering in a cabin in the middle of nowhere." This whole back story is a tremendous stretch of the truth, and it does a disservice to all the musicians in Eau Claire that actually live the life Justin is pretending to live. I didn't research him, I grew up with him. Oh, and if you think he was born with talent, listen to some Mount Vernon tracks. Just shitty
@tallestfoxes All this crap that is written here regarding this artist is just that...bullshit.. Who cares about his story it does nt change anything. this is still a great rendition of another great artist and thats what brought us to this place accept the music for what it is If you want something else buy a PEOPLE rag and pretend that you actually know something.
@lakedaze51 I fucking love Justin Vernon, and have for a long, long time. Obviously i accept the music for what it is. You obviously missed the point of my comment, fool. Learn how to fucking read.
@tallestfoxes I love your elementary definition of honesty. it's more than just "not lying." There are serious misconceptions about his background, and he continues to be evasive about the parts of his background that run contrary to his image as a starving artist. That's dishonesty. Watch the fucking interview with him from this episode. Jimmy brings up the whole bullshit cabin mythology and Justin just sits there slack jawed. He wants people to believe he was suffering instead of relaxing.
@damienmetalwind Why do you even care? He still writes great songs does he not? You don't have one ounce of the talent this man has. You're so jealous that its literally laugh out loud funny. Taking out your frustration out on youtube comments? Calm down, champ.
@tallestfoxes When your town becomes known for crap like this you'll realize why people care. I'm glad you think he's beyond criticism--I disagree. His lyrics read like they were written by a teenage girl: full of sentiment and with a bit of a naive worldview. Maybe that works for you and you connect with it. I grew up with the kid in the same town, and his lyrics say nothing to me about my life. I'm not jealous or frustrated. If people dislike something forced on them, they revolt. That's all
@damienmetalwind No, your points are ridiculous and clearly just an attempt to seem above what is the current "cool" trend in music. Your comments are hyperbolic and bathed in a thick coat of idiocy. So, not anyone who dislikes something I like is tasteless. But in this case, you fit the bill.
@windcriesmaryyy3 Come on now. It has more to do with the fact that this kid's music has been forced on me since the beginning of time, and it's just not my thing. He went from doing bad Bob Marley ripoffs, to bad Dave Matthews, to bad Counting Crows, and now a kind of bush-league Jeff Mangum, with Antony and the Johnsons vocals. Everything he does is currently front-page news in my town, but he's really nothing special compared to a lot of other local bands. Just allow me to express my dissent.
@damienmetalwind You've expressed it loud and clear, dear! Now move on! I'm really starting to worry about you! If you need someone to talk to you know I'm always here<3 Now let's talk about something else.
@damienmetalwind Shame about all the bickering. But thanks for the introduction to Antony and the Johnsons. Good god, he's brilliant watch?v=lAqxRA7h0Ds&feature=related
@damienmetalwind And the whole "soul is earned through hardship" argument is 100% bullshit. You don't have to struggle to know what soul is, to identify with the trillions of difficulties available to the world at any given moment, to know that what you're saying can lift people up. You're born with it: the knack to tell a story and have anybody listen; the knack to put sounds together in a way that most people (including you, obviously) only dream of. The knack to communicate the sound of love.
@damienmetalwind Your such a fuckin loser man, Justin Vernon doesn't even like the whole romanticized conception of how Bon Iver came to be, and he has made it clear in many interviews that he doesn't want people to think it was as Thoreauvian as people make it out to be. Your propagating a false caricature of a man you think you know so much about. If you don't like his music, fine, i could give two shits, but your making yourself look so dumb that it hurts to read.
@AmorBravo Wait...hold on...Amid all your pretentious Thoreau references and snooty phrases like "propagating a false caricature," you managed to reveal to me that you don't know the difference between "you're" and "your." Maybe you need to read _Walden_ again, I'm sure it comes up in there.
@djwiehahn I checked out your video. Not bad! Did you grab all those shots personally? How did you maintain such smooth movement for the time-lapsed cloud shots?
@ImAKidARadiohead thanks. I shot it all on a weeklong holiday in South Island, New Zealand. the movement on the timelapses is done in post-production, just a pan or zoom movement put on in Final Cut Pro. thanks for the interested man.
Art isn't meant to be divisive. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Also people's taste will change over time. They evolve. I was turned on to Bon iver from friend who worshipped Dave Matthews in college. So in short- let the art judge the art.
I think the problem is that media tends to bestow credibility on people. People who don't know any better think they're witnessing something magical here--because he's on tv and they're not. Take a step back. and you'll see a dude with bad hair who's an inch away from belting out "Roxanne."
@damienmetalwind True, in a sense. But I think a lot of people can judge for themselves, and those judgements are just as valid as any other. To know better, we would have to live in Eau Claire I guess. Much too high of a standard. People can think this is magical because he is a good musician, not just because they saw him on a late night TV show. Also, "Roxanne" doesn't sound like it would be too bad haha.
@radioheadwine It doesn't take living in Eau Claire. The dude is just singing a cover in falsetto, that's all. Where's the musicianship in that? That's my point. We're really just watching a guy jerk off into a microphone, but people believe it's good because it is being televised. It's so Vernon to just plagiarize somebody else. The dude has no creativity. That's all we're getting here.
Oh, and people can judge for themselves despite the influence of the media? Tell that to North Korea.
@freedomisonlyadream Actually, I did find your Milli Vanilli crack to be pretty hilarious haha. But really, I was the same as you. Wanted to say something when I read the conversation. At a certain point, I guess it just becomes a matter of separating the art from the artist. Granted they're inherently connected, but no matter how much of a jerk Vernon is his music is still very much appreciated, and considered beautiful by some. I, personally, am very emotionally connected to some of his songs.
@freedomisonlyadream I feel like that bubble could/would have been burst already if there are that many people that dislike him, as you say. However, it perplexes me that so many people / musicians are gravitating toward him. But even if he is a jerk, I agree with the statement that it doesn't matter. John Mayer's made a fool of himself too, but I'm not going to deny that he's an amazing guitarist (he is). As far as I'm concerned, Justin Vernon hasn't done anything overtly offensive or mean.
@radioheadwine Oh god, John Mayer? I don't think we're going to reach common ground here. It's funny how people take offense and rush to Vernon's defense even if they don't know him. Lies can continue on in place of the truth. That's how most mythologies spread. There's some truth in it, but as the story gets passed on, elements of it may change and it becomes something it's not or never was. Maybe he hasn't done anything overtly offensive or mean to you, but he's still a fake and a jerk ;)
@freedomisonlyadream First, what's it to you if I like John Mayer? I don't listen to his music, but have you seen him play the guitar? It was clear we were never going to find common ground anyway. Second, it's equally funny that people will go on youtube and comment on a video of a person they claim to "know" and hate. Just never made sense to me. Also, that is the definition of myth and from interviews I've seen, he seems like he tries to dispel it, if anything. Obvious troll is now obvious.
@radioheadwine It's ok, you can like him. Why bother talking to me if it was clear we'd never find common ground in the first place? You like my humor, perhaps? :) If you're curious, read my earlier post as to how I got here. I don't like similitudes and had to say something. I've heard he doesn't try to elaborate on the myth in interviews, which is good and prevents him from straying from fake to total liar. I give him credit for that! Or maybe the record co. is the one marketing the myth.
@freedomisonlyadream It's at a place called the Nucleus. There's also another performance at the Eau Claire State Theater. Also, come to think of it, didn't he play a show with the Eau Claire high school band about a year ago? But I guess I don't blame him. If I were famous, I probably wouldn't play my town very often. Actually, I'd avoid it like the plague haha. :]
@radioheadwine Yep, that's a coffee house. I guess I don't blame him for not wanting to play here either since so many people from his home town dislike him ;) It's not good for your image to have people who know you bursting the bubble ;)
@radioheadwine Can't get link to work for some reason. Probably him at Phoenix Park long time ago or Menom School? He said in a recent interview in Volume 1 (the local Vernon fanclub magazine) he has no plans to play in EC. He did play at Phoenix Park a long time ago and then hung out a bar and expected to be mobbed by his fans. As it turns out, he wasn't, so he ended up playing his own music on the jukebox O_o yeah...I'd feel bad for him if that wasn't such a vain move.
@radioheadwine Can't get link to work for some reason. Probably him at Phoenix Park long time ago or Menom School? He said in a recent interview in Volume 1 (the local Vernon fanclub magazine) he has no plans to play in EC. He did play at Phoenix Park a long time ago and then hung out a bar and expected to be mobbed by his fans. As it turns out, he wasn't, so he ended up playing his own music on the jukebox O_o yeah...I'd feel bad for him if that wasn't such a vain move.
When he was 17, he was way into Dave Matthews and overtly copied that style. No artistic merit whatsoever, but his dad was bankrolling studio time for his vain son anyway. Justin has always been laying down tracks about how hard his life is, but everyone in his town knew it was bullshit--he never worked a day in his life. Now he's doing the same "hard life" routine, but it's aimed at people who don't know any better. Men that write their names in Wisconsin snow know more about art than Justin.
I went to high school with him too. Each band he's been in has been part of a specific genra that is popular at the time. He a bandwagon jumper. Also a HUGE jerk.
@freedomisonlyadream before i knew anything about Bon Iver, I thought For Emma was recorded in a desolate cabin in the snow. I didnt have to read that to get that connotation and imagery from the record. I really dont care for who he is outside of the tracks that he puts out. dude makes beautiful music. plain and simple.
@ultragabe That's fine that you enjoy his music. Again, what I'm seeing here is that similitude that continues on in place of the truth. That "desolate" cabin is a wealthy vacation home that most people would kill to have; it's not some rundown old shack with no heat where he had to hunt for food to survive, like _Into the Wild_. That's the lie he markets for his image and to sell his albums. The toughest part of living there was deciding whether to have red or white wine with his meals ;)
@freedomisonlyadream I think you're missing the point. I think I speak for a lot of people here that are saying they don't care what kind of money he comes from or where he recorded the album. It doesn't change the music or the emotion. Even if his surroundings weren't raw- the pure emotion and feel from the music IS. I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't see how it relates to the music we love. He could be a serial killer and I would still think he makes amazing, touching music.
@windcriesmaryyy3 I thought you were "done arguing" ;) I see what you're saying, but I think you are missing the point I'm making. The fact he passes himself off as something he's not is dishonest. By definition, that's fake. If you're down with serial killers, I'm afraid we're not going to see eye to eye. If Ed Gein put out an album, I don't think I'd buy it ;)
Interesting contradiction - pure music, fake artist. Like Milli Vanilli, in a way. Not sure how artist could not be related to music.
@windcriesmaryyy3 Ah, I see you subscribe to the New Criticism school of thought. I thought that died out in the early 1960s.
Aww, you don't like Milli Vanilli? ;) hehe well, neither do I, no matter how utterly brilliant "Blame it on the Rain" is ;) It's hard to like their stuff knowing they're fakes, even with their beautiful, flowing hair and their unstoppable dance moves.
@freedomisonlyadream Well, you know, I'm only into Justin Vernon for his beautiful long flowing hair and unstoppable dance moves. Maybe we're on to something.
@freedomisonlyadream Hey, we may disagree on a lot, but at least we feel the same about long locks and killer moves. Who knows, we could have a ton in common and are stuck on this!
@freedomisonlyadream i get what you're saying but I seriously doubt people buy Bon Iver albums because he claims to have written it in a desolate cabin. He could be the biggest douche bag prick on the planet but that wouldn't stop me from listening to his music. BTW, the new album sounds like he used a very expensive production process. So there, he's not claiming a desolate cabin... rather an expensive studio. Is that humble enough for you?
@ultragabe So you think that the desolate cabin doesn't affect his sales at all? You don't think ANYONE has heard that? It's a good story and generates interest. It's smart money for the record company to push that. I've heard it already about not caring if the artist is a douchebag or a serial killer (thanks, Mary ;) so you're late to the party, son. I'm not sure how performing in "an expensive studio" using a "very expensive production process" could mean someone is humble.
@freedomisonlyadream i dont think the cabin story affects record sales because if his songs were a bunch of shit that nobody likes then no one would buy it. what kind of logic is that? I was being facetious when using the word "humble". A better word might have been "honest". Regardless, what does back story matter when someone makes good music? absolutely nothing. Eau Claire is a dump anyway. why would he want to promote that place?
@ultragabe You'll notice I didn't say the cabin was the only thing selling his music, but it certainly affects it. Ever heard of a thing called publicity? Both of those word choices are bad; I believe you were looking for the word "wealthy" or perhaps "well-connected." How can an artist's story make no difference? If that were the case, no one would ever bother talking about the artist. Of course EC is a dump if our greatest export is Vernon ;) But how would you know? You've never been here ;)
@windcriesmaryyy3 I didn't say he hasn't touched anyone and yes, I've heard him sing. But, he's still a soulless fake. What bothers me is that fans buy into the mythology that he lived in some sort of desperate isolation in a log cabin in the wilderness. This is, of course, propagated by him and the record company. The truth is that he was living in his lawyer dad's vacation cabin rent-free for four months. How many log cabins do you know of come equipped with a studio recording room? O_o
@freedomisonlyadream I am aware . What I do know is that I heard "For Emma, Forever Ago" long before I knew anything about a cabin and what I hear is pure emotion...people with no soul don't write songs like that. Nothing about it is formulaic. Regardless of where he came from or his circumstances, the man has soul. You need to meet everyone where they are coming from. As far as I know he didn't get fans by isolating himself in a cabin-he made them by pouring his soul into song.
@freedomisonlyadream BUT I'm done arguing- he clearly has nothing more to prove and I doubt you're going to "open people's eyes". The fact you're listening to him at all says something! Cheers!
@windcriesmaryyy3 I saw this on my FB nf and gave it a try, but was disappointed. I agree, you should meet him or the people that know him and went to school with him. I live here, btw ;) He's been pushing the cabin mythology hard; it's the very center of his new album with the narcissistic name. People think he's a poor starving artist, and he markets that image but he is and always was wealthy. THAT is what makes him fake. He's the Vanilla Ice of indie rock, minus the ripping off of Bowie ;)
@freedomisonlyadream His music clearly has emotion behind it. Regardless of where and how the album "For Emma, Forever Ago" was recorded (which i don't believe is as far-fetched as you are making it out to be), it is a great album and Justin Vernon is a talented artist. Definitely not a "soulless fake." As far as this performance, it isn't one of my favorites, but Bon Iver has already proven to me as well as many others that he is a great artist (with soul). Can't wait for the new album.
@jtiha Yes, believe it or not, that IS the truth behind the cabin. He's from my town (Eau Claire). He refuses to play here, by the way. I find that ironic since he uses his Wisconsin-ness to market his band (ie- fake). Anyway, I guess we cannot prove if someone has soul or not, so let's agree to disagree. I completely agree with Rakesedan, though ;) I don't have a problem with his music, other than his ridiculous voice. The male falsetto is inherently funny. Take a listen to Beck's "Debra" ;)
@jefferson1111 oh i'm sorry jefferson1111 are you a famous artist? people love his music not because of his falsetto but because of his beautiful music, his passion that he puts into songs, and actually yea the amazing tune that he has! go cry somewhere.
@TheBreannajaclyn just go hear the 2 real singers who did the premiere versions of these 2 songs.. donny hathaway.. and bonnie raitt, , even leon russell
@jefferson1111 for someone who claims to dislike him so much and give him no ratings whatsoever, you sure do spend a lot of time talking about him + watching his videos! maybe turn the jelousy down a notch
In my eyes, this man can do no wrong. Everything he's released has been incredible, pretty sure when this is released on the new 12" it'll sound even better too!
he cant really handled dat j.m. song
TeeRific 3 months ago
ALL FOR LOVE DARLING WOW I AM IMPRESSED
The1chihira 3 months ago
@sup3ertraamp and @374kaitiemac : Bon Iver is not technically the band, just Justin's stage name. When he was at his father's cabin writing "For Emma, Forever Ago" he was watching old episodes of Northern Exposure. One of the episodes was called 'Bon Iver' and he liked the name. That particular episode was referring to the French phrase.
foxstumblesnorth 3 months ago
i can't make you love me..
edwina0 4 months ago
<3
oldestmemory 4 months ago
So this has three songs in one??? Amazing!
CoRtNZ1 4 months ago
That's just... perfection.
Leydeen 4 months ago
Move over, Michael McDonald
bridog6996 4 months ago
bears for bon iver
theoriginofthebear 5 months ago in playlist theoriginofthebear's Favorited Videos
bon everrrrrre i thought it was bon -IVer like ivy. oops lol
deathcabforjessie 5 months ago
@deathcabforjessie ME TOO!!! bone eeevere? thats not how you say it. i d have always said Bon EYEver
thereselovesmakeup13 5 months ago
@thereselovesmakeup13 it's pronounced bon (like the name bonnie) EE-vair (with a long e). it's a play on the french words "bonne hiver" which means "good winter".
sup3rtraamp 4 months ago
@sup3rtraamp ooooooooooooohh thank you :) well thats embarassing: i have been pronouncing my favorite singer's name wrong for years! ha!
thereselovesmakeup13 4 months ago
@thereselovesmakeup13 bon iver is the band, justin vernon is the singer, lol. but no problem :)
sup3rtraamp 4 months ago
@sup3rtraamp lol omg. that is sooo embarassing. omg. thank you hahahaha
thereselovesmakeup13 4 months ago
@sup3rtraamp What's the play on words? Just spelling it Americanized? Genuine question, I did recall its French pronunciation so before seeing it in text last year when friends talked about him I looked up bonne hiver and couldn't find anything :)
I love Justin Vernon, fellow Wisconsinte <3
374kaitiemac 4 months ago
@374kaitiemac yeah, i suppose "play on words" wasn't the most eloquent phrase, because there isn't really a pun or anything intended lol(at least to my knowledge). just a different spelling, and i suppose i could agree on your "spelling it americanized" because if i had never enrolled in a french class i would probably spell it that way, too. LOL
sup3rtraamp 4 months ago
white marvin gaye right there
hopscotchinjury 5 months ago 2
@hopscotchinjury Well said!!!! I like that!
CoRtNZ1 4 months ago
Honestly to me, it is unimaginable that anyone could not like this.
aheffelf 5 months ago
Thanks for posting this! Memorable.
misteranonymousguy 5 months ago
i was so pissed when i saw that this was another video of some idiot taking video of their TV.
then i listened to it.
totally worth it.
thanks.
spinasweetness 5 months ago 2
Song For You was written by Leon Russell, Donny Hathaway covered it.
billbooky 5 months ago
He absolutely crushes A Song for You. Fantastic performance. Not so much on the Raitt song...
mskcouric 6 months ago
21 stupid,listeners,
mrsfrodo9 6 months ago
If you don't appreciate him as a vocalist, at least appreciate his amazing lyricism. I know this isn't exactly the best example seeing as it's a cover, but do not judge him based on this. I adore it, but I get that people have their opinions. If you can't appreciate the voice, at least appreciate simply the musician that he is
ZoeBethan13 6 months ago 2
Haters gonna hate. Justin is a boss.
Moromix1 6 months ago 32
I wish I had something witty to say, some turn of phrase to praise the purity of expression an artist like Bon Iver gives night after night. I just know that I seek to praise even the worst stuff I see on here, if only for a minute. I'm not great, nor am I awesome, but me and my opinions don't have to be bulletproof to escape the utter banality of hate for hate's sake. When I say something, something difficult to categorize as for or against, I don't care what callous bile others vomit.
colbgrr1 6 months ago 2
@colbgrr1
Dude, I thumbed up your comment and I applaud it. BEAUTIFUL WORDS! You are obviously a poet. Share more with me please. I love your words.
I get you. And adore you because of your beautiful use of words. Sorry to use beautiful again, but.. no other word defines your words.
JazzyBelle30 6 months ago
Everyone should stop hating, he is fucking amazing, and this was beautiful.
dianabee17 7 months ago
Beautiful.
seltzerislife 7 months ago
Why do you guys take the bait from these trolls? Class performance by the way Bon!
jenningso 7 months ago
This is effing brilliant...
nmurrybrown 7 months ago
I think it sounds nice. However, I could also see this getting really tired, and ripe for parody. Remember "The forty year-old virgin"? They worked in an electronics store that played Michael MacDonald all day long. I could see a future comedy where the main character was tortured by Bon Ivor all day, with his falsetto and his soulful faces.
damnfinehorror 7 months ago
He ruins both versions:S
Kaaamusic 7 months ago
@BonIverSUCKS to me your name says a lot about your personality... i am 100% certain you have not made anything close to the beauty this man has created.
rogdog333 7 months ago
happy bon iver day :)
lizcwby 7 months ago
hes very genuine. he didnt ask for any of this you guys, we did. all those picking him apart disrespect the fact that he is a human not some fucking peice of paper you can rip to shreds.
thequeensofheartss 7 months ago
@BonIverSUCKS Hm. That's a very interesting username you chose. It's incredibly creative.
whatsupfizznugget 7 months ago
Fuk me wat a squeaky load o shit........Bonnie Raitt must surely have her head in her hands listening to this.
Benjiboyo21 7 months ago
jesus christ, you all need to shut the fuck up.
andshehopes 7 months ago
Just for the record, Bon Iver is doing a cover of Leon Russel song for you, not Donnie Hathaway. Hathaway covered Leon's song a couple years later. Leon is the man.
nicksriders 7 months ago
i find it incredible that now justin is getting pretty famous he's getting a lot of criticism. i don't know how people can fault the guy, he really seems quite genuine and modest, people seem to be getting him confused with some of the bullshit pretentious bands that are popping up on the scene at the moment. i suggest watching this version of the track also: /watch?v=Q3VjaCy5gck
mynameisjongreen 8 months ago
@mynameisjongreen
it may seem kinda twisted, but it's actually quite simple: the more people notice you, the more criticism there will be PLUS the ones who go for the "his stuff was better when he wasn't hip" PLUS those who have not idea what they're talking about. Equals: lots n lots of haters. Sad.
nrahj87 7 months ago
@mynameisjongreen I very much agree. He's just being himself, and he just happens to be awesome. (Plus, he's from my state! Which makes me happy. :) )
blahness013 7 months ago
Beautiful voice. xxoo
csmsmith1 8 months ago
This is my first time hearing Bon Iver after hearing good things about him and I'm so not impressed. I could not sit here and listen to this voice for any amount of time. I'll have to go check out his other stuff because this just can't be it. I feel like he should at least be playing his own piano if he's doing a cover.
cdame 8 months ago 2
@cdame haha bon iver is the band not just him (justin vernon) listen to Bon Iver - re: Stacks, it will blow your mind!
RcEdits 8 months ago
@cdame ..alright, first: how do you judge ones musical ability by a cover? Why would this be the first thing you listen to from him- something he did not even write? Second, though Justin plays piano he is not a pianist he is in all shape, a guitarist- even so, in the releasing of this album bon iver has transcended from a solo act to a band- its kind of self fulfilling when you get on the stage solo and you're touring with a band, dont you think? I'm not saying you have to like bon iver but god
thequeensofheartss 7 months ago
@thequeensofheartss
I happened to come across this video searching for something else, so this is why I said it's the first I've heard from the group. About all the transcending and self-fulfillment - I'll take your word for it (lack of punctuation and all). Don't get so offended. Even Bon Iver fans are posting here saying it's not exactly his greatest work.
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@thequeensofheartss
I happened to come across this video searching for something else, so this is why I said it's the first I've heard from the group. About all the transcending and self-fulfillment - I'll take your word for it (lack of punctuation and all). Don't get so offended. Even Bon Iver fans are posting here saying it's not exactly the greatest work.
cdame 6 months ago
Where is the love button.
jjjrulez 8 months ago
I honestly couldn't care less about his backstory. I picked up his record on chance at my local shop, and its artwork looked like Winter, and I was looking for that seasonal kind of feel. It sounded better than expected, and he's pretty solid live(not in my top 20, but certainly good).
I mean, it's the music that matters. Justin Vernon may just be a dick. He may be rich. Doesn't invalidate his stuff. Lots of very popular "humble" musicians are huge pricks, but their music still resonates well
fluffywalrus 8 months ago
Correction: "A Song for You" was composed by Leon Russell. The confusion is understandable because the song has been covered by over 40 other artists, including Donny Hathaway, whose version was exquisitely done and very popular.
keshavadasa 8 months ago
Excuse me while I cry all over everything
cimetiere 8 months ago
Genius. This...THIS is how you cover a song-- by making it your own. (I'm talking mainly of "I Can't Make You Love Me"). What this brother lacks in vocal prowess he more than makes up for in soul and originality. Add to: Favorites.
bfsharpe 8 months ago
"A Song For You" was written and performed by Leon Russell, not Donny Hathaway.
okifenoke7 8 months ago
he doesn't have to make me love him, i already do....
CitizenKatie 8 months ago
He absolutely butchered the chorus. Sad.
trojanpony 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind Sure, but we're not in North Korea. I didn't say absolutely everyone was capable, because not everyone is. Of course the media has influence over us. It influences me. It influences you too, on an hourly basis. It's impossible to be immune. It's dismissive and pretentious to suggest you're the only one who "knows better."
You dismiss all covers then? If he only covered songs, I might see the point, but that's not the case. An opinion doesn't have to be sound to be valid.
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@radioheadwine 1. what is dismissive and pretentious about objectivity? 2. I don't dismiss all covers. I just think it isn't the mark of a talented musician to sing a cover in corny falsetto, people do it at karaoke bars daily. 3. Wow...opinions are inherently valid? That's great. Their inherent validity does not, however, render them beyond reproach. We've both taken shits before, yet you seem to think that if the accompanying flatulence is high pitched, it becomes a work of art. It doesn't.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago 2
@damienmetalwind farts are funny
TheTaintSamurai 8 months ago 2
@damienmetalwind HA. Corny falsetto? Do you know ANYTHING about current music? Justin Vernon has one of the most soulful, forlorn, damaged and yet beautiful voices in today's music industry. Check your pre-conceived notions at the fucking door; this is music at it's finest.
These people aren't calling Bon Iver's music beautiful because it involves a high-pitched voice. It's because that voice is gorgeous and tells stories in a way that you wish you could. WATCH the performance. He's for real.
DiceExpress17 8 months ago
@DiceExpress17 My "preconceived notions" come from knowing this asshole. Soul is earned through hardship, but he never struggled for anything. Other Eau Claire bands are broke, eating buttered noodles for dinner, and working day jobs. Justin just lays around in his rich daddy's cabin (which is bigger than a lot of homes) and writes songs. Other bands tour, hoping to change their shitty life, Justin tours because he's bored. He never paid his dues, but has built a career pretending he has.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind Once again I scoff at your all-knowing presence. Never paid his dues my ass. In no time, the guy lost his band, which was his livelihood, a relationship, and became extremely ill. Just because he has money does NOT, by any means, indicate a sense of entitlement and snobbishness. He doesn't tour because he's bored, he tours because he has something to say. I understand the plight of up-and-coming bands. But Justin exploded because he gave people what they need: beautiful music.
DiceExpress17 8 months ago
@DiceExpress17 He didn't lose his band--he abandoned them on tour (and left each member in debt to his father. Awesome). The band was never his livelihood. His dad always paid his bills, and he floated through life like Billy Madison. I'm not saying that being born rich made him a dick, just that he always was a conceited dick.
It's sad to me that he has fooled people into believing that he came from nothing, and that he has larger social concerns. His media image is the reverse of real life.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind Nobody ever said he came from nothing in this conversation. I never, ever, ever said that. He took a talent he was born with and turned it into something the entire world can enjoy... sans you, a grumpy person who has seemingly researched Justin Vernon's entire life to simply play Devil's Advocate on YouTube against people who enjoy his music.
See how pathetic you are? Maybe you don't like him. It's still beautiful music that everybody should enjoy. Get over yourself. Please.
DiceExpress17 8 months ago
@DiceExpress17 Dude, chill. All I've said is that a big part of his appeal is that he's " a down-to-earth, soulful guy who spent 4 months suffering in a cabin in the middle of nowhere." This whole back story is a tremendous stretch of the truth, and it does a disservice to all the musicians in Eau Claire that actually live the life Justin is pretending to live. I didn't research him, I grew up with him. Oh, and if you think he was born with talent, listen to some Mount Vernon tracks. Just shitty
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind He's never claimed he came from nothing. You're making yourself sound like an idiot.
tallestfoxes 8 months ago
@tallestfoxes All this crap that is written here regarding this artist is just that...bullshit.. Who cares about his story it does nt change anything. this is still a great rendition of another great artist and thats what brought us to this place accept the music for what it is If you want something else buy a PEOPLE rag and pretend that you actually know something.
lakedaze51 8 months ago
@lakedaze51 I fucking love Justin Vernon, and have for a long, long time. Obviously i accept the music for what it is. You obviously missed the point of my comment, fool. Learn how to fucking read.
tallestfoxes 8 months ago
@tallestfoxes I love your elementary definition of honesty. it's more than just "not lying." There are serious misconceptions about his background, and he continues to be evasive about the parts of his background that run contrary to his image as a starving artist. That's dishonesty. Watch the fucking interview with him from this episode. Jimmy brings up the whole bullshit cabin mythology and Justin just sits there slack jawed. He wants people to believe he was suffering instead of relaxing.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind Why do you even care? He still writes great songs does he not? You don't have one ounce of the talent this man has. You're so jealous that its literally laugh out loud funny. Taking out your frustration out on youtube comments? Calm down, champ.
tallestfoxes 8 months ago
@tallestfoxes When your town becomes known for crap like this you'll realize why people care. I'm glad you think he's beyond criticism--I disagree. His lyrics read like they were written by a teenage girl: full of sentiment and with a bit of a naive worldview. Maybe that works for you and you connect with it. I grew up with the kid in the same town, and his lyrics say nothing to me about my life. I'm not jealous or frustrated. If people dislike something forced on them, they revolt. That's all
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind You are just a tasteless hack, is I think what you meant to say.
Razorback613 8 months ago
@Razorback613 So anyone who dislikes something you like is tasteless? I assure you, Your Majesty, I am actually quite flavorful.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind No, your points are ridiculous and clearly just an attempt to seem above what is the current "cool" trend in music. Your comments are hyperbolic and bathed in a thick coat of idiocy. So, not anyone who dislikes something I like is tasteless. But in this case, you fit the bill.
Razorback613 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind awwww you still haven't gotten over your high school drama:( Maybe one day you'll feel worth while! Thinking of you:)
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 Come on now. It has more to do with the fact that this kid's music has been forced on me since the beginning of time, and it's just not my thing. He went from doing bad Bob Marley ripoffs, to bad Dave Matthews, to bad Counting Crows, and now a kind of bush-league Jeff Mangum, with Antony and the Johnsons vocals. Everything he does is currently front-page news in my town, but he's really nothing special compared to a lot of other local bands. Just allow me to express my dissent.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind You've expressed it loud and clear, dear! Now move on! I'm really starting to worry about you! If you need someone to talk to you know I'm always here<3 Now let's talk about something else.
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 Well, to be honest, this video is really not that interesting.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind You must think SOMETHING is interesting! Is it me? Do we have something going on here?
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 You know what I find interesting? I've heard that some tigers turn into little Chinese dudes at midnight. Do you think that's true?
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind They must be some pretty special tigers! And even more special Chinese guys! WOW!
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago 2
@windcriesmaryyy3 lol
hany259 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 That's what I'm talking about. The East is a very mysterious place.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind Shame about all the bickering. But thanks for the introduction to Antony and the Johnsons. Good god, he's brilliant watch?v=lAqxRA7h0Ds&feature=related
brzjaw 7 months ago
@damienmetalwind you mean since 2006?
thequeensofheartss 7 months ago
@damienmetalwind And the whole "soul is earned through hardship" argument is 100% bullshit. You don't have to struggle to know what soul is, to identify with the trillions of difficulties available to the world at any given moment, to know that what you're saying can lift people up. You're born with it: the knack to tell a story and have anybody listen; the knack to put sounds together in a way that most people (including you, obviously) only dream of. The knack to communicate the sound of love.
DiceExpress17 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind Your such a fuckin loser man, Justin Vernon doesn't even like the whole romanticized conception of how Bon Iver came to be, and he has made it clear in many interviews that he doesn't want people to think it was as Thoreauvian as people make it out to be. Your propagating a false caricature of a man you think you know so much about. If you don't like his music, fine, i could give two shits, but your making yourself look so dumb that it hurts to read.
AmorBravo 8 months ago
@AmorBravo Wait...hold on...Amid all your pretentious Thoreau references and snooty phrases like "propagating a false caricature," you managed to reveal to me that you don't know the difference between "you're" and "your." Maybe you need to read _Walden_ again, I'm sure it comes up in there.
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djwiehahn 6 months ago
@AmorBravo speaking of Walden, i just made a Thoreau inspired music vid for Bon Iver's latest single 'Holocene', check it out on my page.
djwiehahn 6 months ago
@djwiehahn I checked out your video. Not bad! Did you grab all those shots personally? How did you maintain such smooth movement for the time-lapsed cloud shots?
ImAKidARadiohead 5 months ago
@ImAKidARadiohead thanks. I shot it all on a weeklong holiday in South Island, New Zealand. the movement on the timelapses is done in post-production, just a pan or zoom movement put on in Final Cut Pro. thanks for the interested man.
djwiehahn 5 months ago
Art isn't meant to be divisive. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Also people's taste will change over time. They evolve. I was turned on to Bon iver from friend who worshipped Dave Matthews in college. So in short- let the art judge the art.
nocaster52 8 months ago
I think the problem is that media tends to bestow credibility on people. People who don't know any better think they're witnessing something magical here--because he's on tv and they're not. Take a step back. and you'll see a dude with bad hair who's an inch away from belting out "Roxanne."
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@damienmetalwind True, in a sense. But I think a lot of people can judge for themselves, and those judgements are just as valid as any other. To know better, we would have to live in Eau Claire I guess. Much too high of a standard. People can think this is magical because he is a good musician, not just because they saw him on a late night TV show. Also, "Roxanne" doesn't sound like it would be too bad haha.
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@radioheadwine It doesn't take living in Eau Claire. The dude is just singing a cover in falsetto, that's all. Where's the musicianship in that? That's my point. We're really just watching a guy jerk off into a microphone, but people believe it's good because it is being televised. It's so Vernon to just plagiarize somebody else. The dude has no creativity. That's all we're getting here.
Oh, and people can judge for themselves despite the influence of the media? Tell that to North Korea.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream Actually, I did find your Milli Vanilli crack to be pretty hilarious haha. But really, I was the same as you. Wanted to say something when I read the conversation. At a certain point, I guess it just becomes a matter of separating the art from the artist. Granted they're inherently connected, but no matter how much of a jerk Vernon is his music is still very much appreciated, and considered beautiful by some. I, personally, am very emotionally connected to some of his songs.
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream Also, you didn't address the other parts of my comment ;)
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream I feel like that bubble could/would have been burst already if there are that many people that dislike him, as you say. However, it perplexes me that so many people / musicians are gravitating toward him. But even if he is a jerk, I agree with the statement that it doesn't matter. John Mayer's made a fool of himself too, but I'm not going to deny that he's an amazing guitarist (he is). As far as I'm concerned, Justin Vernon hasn't done anything overtly offensive or mean.
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@radioheadwine Oh god, John Mayer? I don't think we're going to reach common ground here. It's funny how people take offense and rush to Vernon's defense even if they don't know him. Lies can continue on in place of the truth. That's how most mythologies spread. There's some truth in it, but as the story gets passed on, elements of it may change and it becomes something it's not or never was. Maybe he hasn't done anything overtly offensive or mean to you, but he's still a fake and a jerk ;)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream First, what's it to you if I like John Mayer? I don't listen to his music, but have you seen him play the guitar? It was clear we were never going to find common ground anyway. Second, it's equally funny that people will go on youtube and comment on a video of a person they claim to "know" and hate. Just never made sense to me. Also, that is the definition of myth and from interviews I've seen, he seems like he tries to dispel it, if anything. Obvious troll is now obvious.
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@radioheadwine It's ok, you can like him. Why bother talking to me if it was clear we'd never find common ground in the first place? You like my humor, perhaps? :) If you're curious, read my earlier post as to how I got here. I don't like similitudes and had to say something. I've heard he doesn't try to elaborate on the myth in interviews, which is good and prevents him from straying from fake to total liar. I give him credit for that! Or maybe the record co. is the one marketing the myth.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream It's at a place called the Nucleus. There's also another performance at the Eau Claire State Theater. Also, come to think of it, didn't he play a show with the Eau Claire high school band about a year ago? But I guess I don't blame him. If I were famous, I probably wouldn't play my town very often. Actually, I'd avoid it like the plague haha. :]
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@radioheadwine Yep, that's a coffee house. I guess I don't blame him for not wanting to play here either since so many people from his home town dislike him ;) It's not good for your image to have people who know you bursting the bubble ;)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream: They refuse to play in Eau Claire??
youtube.com/watch?v=ylIiM76yBiU
radioheadwine 8 months ago
@radioheadwine Can't get link to work for some reason. Probably him at Phoenix Park long time ago or Menom School? He said in a recent interview in Volume 1 (the local Vernon fanclub magazine) he has no plans to play in EC. He did play at Phoenix Park a long time ago and then hung out a bar and expected to be mobbed by his fans. As it turns out, he wasn't, so he ended up playing his own music on the jukebox O_o yeah...I'd feel bad for him if that wasn't such a vain move.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
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@radioheadwine Can't get link to work for some reason. Probably him at Phoenix Park long time ago or Menom School? He said in a recent interview in Volume 1 (the local Vernon fanclub magazine) he has no plans to play in EC. He did play at Phoenix Park a long time ago and then hung out a bar and expected to be mobbed by his fans. As it turns out, he wasn't, so he ended up playing his own music on the jukebox O_o yeah...I'd feel bad for him if that wasn't such a vain move.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
When he was 17, he was way into Dave Matthews and overtly copied that style. No artistic merit whatsoever, but his dad was bankrolling studio time for his vain son anyway. Justin has always been laying down tracks about how hard his life is, but everyone in his town knew it was bullshit--he never worked a day in his life. Now he's doing the same "hard life" routine, but it's aimed at people who don't know any better. Men that write their names in Wisconsin snow know more about art than Justin.
damienmetalwind 8 months ago
I went to high school with him too. Each band he's been in has been part of a specific genra that is popular at the time. He a bandwagon jumper. Also a HUGE jerk.
MrEauclairian 8 months ago
Great Raitt cover...but he needs to leave Donny alone!
nzingha1 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream before i knew anything about Bon Iver, I thought For Emma was recorded in a desolate cabin in the snow. I didnt have to read that to get that connotation and imagery from the record. I really dont care for who he is outside of the tracks that he puts out. dude makes beautiful music. plain and simple.
ultragabe 8 months ago
@ultragabe That's fine that you enjoy his music. Again, what I'm seeing here is that similitude that continues on in place of the truth. That "desolate" cabin is a wealthy vacation home that most people would kill to have; it's not some rundown old shack with no heat where he had to hunt for food to survive, like _Into the Wild_. That's the lie he markets for his image and to sell his albums. The toughest part of living there was deciding whether to have red or white wine with his meals ;)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream I think you're missing the point. I think I speak for a lot of people here that are saying they don't care what kind of money he comes from or where he recorded the album. It doesn't change the music or the emotion. Even if his surroundings weren't raw- the pure emotion and feel from the music IS. I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't see how it relates to the music we love. He could be a serial killer and I would still think he makes amazing, touching music.
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 I thought you were "done arguing" ;) I see what you're saying, but I think you are missing the point I'm making. The fact he passes himself off as something he's not is dishonest. By definition, that's fake. If you're down with serial killers, I'm afraid we're not going to see eye to eye. If Ed Gein put out an album, I don't think I'd buy it ;)
Interesting contradiction - pure music, fake artist. Like Milli Vanilli, in a way. Not sure how artist could not be related to music.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream diregarding the Milli Vanilli comment ;) Art is art.Judge the art not the artist.
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 Ah, I see you subscribe to the New Criticism school of thought. I thought that died out in the early 1960s.
Aww, you don't like Milli Vanilli? ;) hehe well, neither do I, no matter how utterly brilliant "Blame it on the Rain" is ;) It's hard to like their stuff knowing they're fakes, even with their beautiful, flowing hair and their unstoppable dance moves.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago 2
@freedomisonlyadream Well, you know, I'm only into Justin Vernon for his beautiful long flowing hair and unstoppable dance moves. Maybe we're on to something.
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago 3
@windcriesmaryyy3 That's awesome ;) Ooh, you might be right!
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream Hey, we may disagree on a lot, but at least we feel the same about long locks and killer moves. Who knows, we could have a ton in common and are stuck on this!
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago 8
@windcriesmaryyy3 I agree with ya, friend ;) Cheers.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream i get what you're saying but I seriously doubt people buy Bon Iver albums because he claims to have written it in a desolate cabin. He could be the biggest douche bag prick on the planet but that wouldn't stop me from listening to his music. BTW, the new album sounds like he used a very expensive production process. So there, he's not claiming a desolate cabin... rather an expensive studio. Is that humble enough for you?
ultragabe 8 months ago
@ultragabe So you think that the desolate cabin doesn't affect his sales at all? You don't think ANYONE has heard that? It's a good story and generates interest. It's smart money for the record company to push that. I've heard it already about not caring if the artist is a douchebag or a serial killer (thanks, Mary ;) so you're late to the party, son. I'm not sure how performing in "an expensive studio" using a "very expensive production process" could mean someone is humble.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream i dont think the cabin story affects record sales because if his songs were a bunch of shit that nobody likes then no one would buy it. what kind of logic is that? I was being facetious when using the word "humble". A better word might have been "honest". Regardless, what does back story matter when someone makes good music? absolutely nothing. Eau Claire is a dump anyway. why would he want to promote that place?
ultragabe 8 months ago
@ultragabe You'll notice I didn't say the cabin was the only thing selling his music, but it certainly affects it. Ever heard of a thing called publicity? Both of those word choices are bad; I believe you were looking for the word "wealthy" or perhaps "well-connected." How can an artist's story make no difference? If that were the case, no one would ever bother talking about the artist. Of course EC is a dump if our greatest export is Vernon ;) But how would you know? You've never been here ;)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
Is that Don Draper behind and the left of Fallon in the first shot? Think it is.
lhbright 8 months ago
I don't pretend to know the full narrative on this guy, but singing falsetto does not make you Smokey Robinson!
Rakesedan 8 months ago
This is wonderful.
brzjaw 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 I didn't say he hasn't touched anyone and yes, I've heard him sing. But, he's still a soulless fake. What bothers me is that fans buy into the mythology that he lived in some sort of desperate isolation in a log cabin in the wilderness. This is, of course, propagated by him and the record company. The truth is that he was living in his lawyer dad's vacation cabin rent-free for four months. How many log cabins do you know of come equipped with a studio recording room? O_o
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frankieandmarygrace 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream I am aware . What I do know is that I heard "For Emma, Forever Ago" long before I knew anything about a cabin and what I hear is pure emotion...people with no soul don't write songs like that. Nothing about it is formulaic. Regardless of where he came from or his circumstances, the man has soul. You need to meet everyone where they are coming from. As far as I know he didn't get fans by isolating himself in a cabin-he made them by pouring his soul into song.
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream BUT I'm done arguing- he clearly has nothing more to prove and I doubt you're going to "open people's eyes". The fact you're listening to him at all says something! Cheers!
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 I agree, completely.
MrJkca 8 months ago
@windcriesmaryyy3 I saw this on my FB nf and gave it a try, but was disappointed. I agree, you should meet him or the people that know him and went to school with him. I live here, btw ;) He's been pushing the cabin mythology hard; it's the very center of his new album with the narcissistic name. People think he's a poor starving artist, and he markets that image but he is and always was wealthy. THAT is what makes him fake. He's the Vanilla Ice of indie rock, minus the ripping off of Bowie ;)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream His music clearly has emotion behind it. Regardless of where and how the album "For Emma, Forever Ago" was recorded (which i don't believe is as far-fetched as you are making it out to be), it is a great album and Justin Vernon is a talented artist. Definitely not a "soulless fake." As far as this performance, it isn't one of my favorites, but Bon Iver has already proven to me as well as many others that he is a great artist (with soul). Can't wait for the new album.
jtiha 8 months ago
@jtiha Yes, believe it or not, that IS the truth behind the cabin. He's from my town (Eau Claire). He refuses to play here, by the way. I find that ironic since he uses his Wisconsin-ness to market his band (ie- fake). Anyway, I guess we cannot prove if someone has soul or not, so let's agree to disagree. I completely agree with Rakesedan, though ;) I don't have a problem with his music, other than his ridiculous voice. The male falsetto is inherently funny. Take a listen to Beck's "Debra" ;)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream SHUT UP, JUSTIN VERNON IS GOLD. GET OUTTA HERE.
musicchick183 8 months ago
@musicchick183 You make such an eloquent and courteous argument :)
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
Hey...Barry Gibb...do Jive talkin' next!
damienmetalwind 8 months ago 3
The only problem with this cover is that Bonnie Raitt has soul and Justin Vernon does not. His voice is as fake as his back story.
freedomisonlyadream 8 months ago
@freedomisonlyadream Yeah..he clearly hasn't touched anyone. Listen to Justin Vernon -Self Record and then we'll talk. Ugh. People like you.
windcriesmaryyy3 8 months ago
if you like this, you might also enjoy watching leon russell and john mayer perform this.
guitarplayer407 8 months ago
This isn't a joke?!
nnaannccyyw 8 months ago
stuart from the hangover on piano
goodideabiaggio 8 months ago
i just......love
CitizenKatie 8 months ago
"I Can't Make You Love Me" is a 1991 popular song, written by Mike Reid and Allen Shamblin a'la Wikipedia
Rodero77 8 months ago
It's Leon Russell's song, not Hathaway.
mskcouric 9 months ago
is there a studio version of this song anywhere? not just live? i fucking love him <3
Zamyye 9 months ago
jizzed in my pants
MrNemps7 9 months ago 2
dare I say it makes it cooler just how awkward he is? haunting, lovely, beautiful voice...
tonsofbrian 9 months ago
Donny would be proud.
abbaby85 9 months ago
7 people probably like bieber
rmchacon 9 months ago 2
He is good but this version isn't that good as tank cover....TO ME it dont seem like there any emotion that tank places in his cover
amitch5482 9 months ago
just amazing. The album will be great, hope its on there.
americaescapeplan 9 months ago
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im serious thats one of the most unsoulful weak voices ive ever heard wtf??
jefferson1111 9 months ago
@jefferson1111 oh i'm sorry jefferson1111 are you a famous artist? people love his music not because of his falsetto but because of his beautiful music, his passion that he puts into songs, and actually yea the amazing tune that he has! go cry somewhere.
TheBreannajaclyn 9 months ago
@TheBreannajaclyn just go hear the 2 real singers who did the premiere versions of these 2 songs.. donny hathaway.. and bonnie raitt, , even leon russell
jefferson1111 9 months ago
@jefferson1111 for someone who claims to dislike him so much and give him no ratings whatsoever, you sure do spend a lot of time talking about him + watching his videos! maybe turn the jelousy down a notch
goodideabiaggio 9 months ago
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this guy is shockingly bad as in sucks
jefferson1111 9 months ago
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jefferson1111 9 months ago
Who thinks Bon Iver should take this to the studio? I would definitely have it on my iPod.
KrypticsWorld 9 months ago
brought me to tears. :'( that was seriously one of the most beautiful things i've ever watched.
psychotsunade 9 months ago
In my eyes, this man can do no wrong. Everything he's released has been incredible, pretty sure when this is released on the new 12" it'll sound even better too!
marcstewart23 9 months ago