what if you didnt have a static note in the bass? Is it still possible to create a modal progression as long as you keep coming back to the 1 chord of whatever mode you are in?
Good vid. There's another way to think of this, too....you can learn modes as scales on their own, with their own sound. So dorian is a natural minor with a major 6, or lydian is a major with a raised 4. The modal key center needs to be heard, but it can be implied by your note choices. If you think of the mode as an entity of its own with its own root, the ear will fill in the tonal center. You don't have to always hold down that bass note IMO, though it does sound good in your examples. Nice!
can i build a modal progression with more than 2 chords? another question: if i wanted to play in F lydian, the chords progression will be F and G as u did with the D dorian. so can i use both F lydian and D dorian on F e G chords emphasing the F and D notes?
Yes, you can build a modal progression with many chords.
On the second question: F lydian and D dorian are both modes of the C Maj(ionian) scale. This means that these modes all share the same notes--CDEFGABC-- starting in their respective places. If you are playing in F lydian over the F and/or G chord, you can also use the D dorian scale; they share the same notes. However, if you are playing a D dorian scale with the bass-note of F, the ear will most likely hear it as F lydian.
The notes are the same either way, but the bass informs the ear of where the scale is rooted.
Likewise, if you play an F Lydian scale over a D bass, the ear will most likely hear it in D dorian; all the same notes, rooted(starting) in a different place.
I don't know if that answers your question, but I hope it helps, my friend.
Btw your lessons are also inspiring and that's VERY IMPORTANT, because not every video lesson I stumble upon actually makes me LEARN it through and practice it over - great tutorship!
one question i have... at 6:25 when you change the key to d lydian and count back to find the parent key, you state d is 4, c is 3, b is 2, and a is 1, therefore we are in a major. but isn't lydian one half step higher than phrygian (4)? so shouldn't d be 4, c# be 3, b be 2, and a be 1? it still leads you to the same parent key, i'm just wondering if you made a mistake or i'm just not getting something here? thanks for your time.
@452ist Not in flat keys. Bb flat is the first of all flats so if you want a B in any flat key you have to call it Cb because a key cannot contain both a B and a Bb.
For D Dorian, could you not just play a progression using chords from the C Major scale, but ensure that you always resolve to Dminor rather than C Major?
the f sharp in the beginning seems a little flat in the parts of the long gape in the right panel... i dont know what im saying at this point...cool video.
You are correct it is a minor type mode. But say you are playing in D Dorian. Its parent key of C has the IV & V chords of F & G like you mentioned before. Remember you still need to keep the root of the mode D in the bass at all times. So if you have D in the base and F Major over it will give you the notes D F A C, which actually creates a D min7th chord. Then the progression would go to the V spelled D G B D which is just a 2nd inversion major chord. This all creates a minor sound. :)
Actually to be truly playing any mode you need a static harmony underneath it. However, a jazz guitarist usually plays to each chord in a tonal chord progression. So they treat each chord as a new tonal center and improvise using a mode that works over that chord type.
But most rock style guitarists like Steve Vai or Satriani usually create an extended harmonic foundation over a single root note. Listen to Steve Vai's "The Riddle", he plays about 5 modes over a constant E root. Cheers!!
Oh yeah, it will work for any instrument you can play chords on. It is also cool to play one of the chord shapes then a little modal soloing followed by the next chord creating a little solo/rhythm style with no need for a backing band!!
what if you didnt have a static note in the bass? Is it still possible to create a modal progression as long as you keep coming back to the 1 chord of whatever mode you are in?
EvaSlash 1 month ago
Very helpful - cheers!
limbothelighter 2 months ago
Good vid. There's another way to think of this, too....you can learn modes as scales on their own, with their own sound. So dorian is a natural minor with a major 6, or lydian is a major with a raised 4. The modal key center needs to be heard, but it can be implied by your note choices. If you think of the mode as an entity of its own with its own root, the ear will fill in the tonal center. You don't have to always hold down that bass note IMO, though it does sound good in your examples. Nice!
daveisaacsmusic 2 months ago
can i build a modal progression with more than 2 chords? another question: if i wanted to play in F lydian, the chords progression will be F and G as u did with the D dorian. so can i use both F lydian and D dorian on F e G chords emphasing the F and D notes?
thanks, great lesson.
dariolp90 5 months ago
@dariolp90
Yes, you can build a modal progression with many chords.
On the second question: F lydian and D dorian are both modes of the C Maj(ionian) scale. This means that these modes all share the same notes--CDEFGABC-- starting in their respective places. If you are playing in F lydian over the F and/or G chord, you can also use the D dorian scale; they share the same notes. However, if you are playing a D dorian scale with the bass-note of F, the ear will most likely hear it as F lydian.
propwatch 3 months ago
@dariolp90
..Cont'd..
The notes are the same either way, but the bass informs the ear of where the scale is rooted.
Likewise, if you play an F Lydian scale over a D bass, the ear will most likely hear it in D dorian; all the same notes, rooted(starting) in a different place.
I don't know if that answers your question, but I hope it helps, my friend.
propwatch 3 months ago
Everything I ever needed.
Btw your lessons are also inspiring and that's VERY IMPORTANT, because not every video lesson I stumble upon actually makes me LEARN it through and practice it over - great tutorship!
SavaEQZY 5 months ago
thanx!!! great lessons
ovedmusic 7 months ago
i love u
can't find the pdf
ovedmusic 7 months ago
@ovedmusic Hey I just updated the video's description with a direct link to the PDF. Thanks!
GuitarLessons365 7 months ago
you make it so easy.... great man
TheNobru666 7 months ago
what songs ever keep the same bass tone all the time? please give examples, thanks .... ps WHY AREN"T YOU FAMOUS!!!
casschnur 7 months ago
@casschnur There are a few Joe Satriani song I think... Joe Satriani's "Not of this Earth" iirc.
EstevanMusic 6 months ago
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one question i have... at 6:25 when you change the key to d lydian and count back to find the parent key, you state d is 4, c is 3, b is 2, and a is 1, therefore we are in a major. but isn't lydian one half step higher than phrygian (4)? so shouldn't d be 4, c# be 3, b be 2, and a be 1? it still leads you to the same parent key, i'm just wondering if you made a mistake or i'm just not getting something here? thanks for your time.
Stonerteacher 8 months ago
@2.47 lolx u hav invented a Cflat note isnt it B note ?
452ist 9 months ago
@452ist Not in flat keys. Bb flat is the first of all flats so if you want a B in any flat key you have to call it Cb because a key cannot contain both a B and a Bb.
GuitarLessons365 9 months ago 9
@GuitarLessons365 yes but it doesn't matter really when talking.
akamarutv 9 months ago
@GuitarLessons365 understood so is it Fmajor dminor scale
yes u r right in flat keys itz Bb thanks
452ist 8 months ago
@452ist Yep, F major and D minor are relative keys, meaning the share the same seven notes. :)
GuitarLessons365 8 months ago
Could you tell me a good chord progression for a harmonic minor scale?
MegaThangal 9 months ago
very good lesson but I can't find that PDF file. I found the modal progression section on your site but the PDF file isn't there!
andyvancouver2000 11 months ago
For D Dorian, could you not just play a progression using chords from the C Major scale, but ensure that you always resolve to Dminor rather than C Major?
odgeUK 1 year ago
when you ay you are using B dorian it means you are playing over the major scale with the note changed to A??
felipescalador 1 year ago
So, what is it called if I play F and G triads over a D# in the bass?
philnoll 1 year ago
AWESOME
crazyconor14 1 year ago
^Easier chord shapes^
D/F----D/G----D/Em
Cheers!
otterrichard 1 year ago
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otterrichard 1 year ago
this is soooo frank gambale!
KevenHyun 1 year ago
awesome lesson
HalloweenEve1030 1 year ago
excelent your site!! and your lessons.
regards from Brazil
linuxnaveia 1 year ago
the f sharp in the beginning seems a little flat in the parts of the long gape in the right panel... i dont know what im saying at this point...cool video.
garciaalvin3 1 year ago 7
@garciaalvin3 LOL, I think I have a new favorite comment!!
GuitarLessons365 1 year ago
the only thing i dont get is..... dorian is a minor mode isn`t it???? so why play G &F major chords????? sorry im trying to understand honestly!
mifski 1 year ago
You are correct it is a minor type mode. But say you are playing in D Dorian. Its parent key of C has the IV & V chords of F & G like you mentioned before. Remember you still need to keep the root of the mode D in the bass at all times. So if you have D in the base and F Major over it will give you the notes D F A C, which actually creates a D min7th chord. Then the progression would go to the V spelled D G B D which is just a 2nd inversion major chord. This all creates a minor sound. :)
GuitarLessons365 1 year ago
thanks man, great lesson. very easy to follow. keep it up bro.
legendofakira 1 year ago
Glad to see somebody who isn't spreading misinformed ideas about the modes.
Great lesson man.
EstevanMusic 1 year ago
Thanks this is nice
dannyboy9237 2 years ago
great video, thanks for sharing!
JesseGuitar07 2 years ago
good lesson!!! thank you
Isaac73 2 years ago
Good lesson
but surely there's more to modal progressions than just playing chords with the same root note?
Surely your root note can change while playing in one mode?
oregan1 2 years ago
Actually to be truly playing any mode you need a static harmony underneath it. However, a jazz guitarist usually plays to each chord in a tonal chord progression. So they treat each chord as a new tonal center and improvise using a mode that works over that chord type.
But most rock style guitarists like Steve Vai or Satriani usually create an extended harmonic foundation over a single root note. Listen to Steve Vai's "The Riddle", he plays about 5 modes over a constant E root. Cheers!!
GuitarLessons365 2 years ago 5
@GuitarLessons365 wow yes the riddle never noticed!!! a lesson in pitch axis! lol :)
jemjoesatch 1 year ago
@oregan1 Some times you can... but you have to be very careful.
Like I play Em then F to play in E Phrygian, because it really brings out the b2.
Also I play E then F# for Lydian, it really brings out the #4 of E Lydian.
But if I got too adventurous with either of these it would not sound modal.
EstevanMusic 1 year ago
Excellent 5 Stars
loveguitars 2 years ago
Sweet as usual carl , if my ear isnt rong that lydian part sounds like extreme hole hearted hummm
samanoskee 2 years ago
This is awesome! I've been having the hardest time applying modes to music. Would this work for bass as well, or would I have to adapt?
The1337Robot 2 years ago
Oh yeah, it will work for any instrument you can play chords on. It is also cool to play one of the chord shapes then a little modal soloing followed by the next chord creating a little solo/rhythm style with no need for a backing band!!
Thanks for watching!! Carl.. :)
GuitarLessons365 2 years ago