The point I'm trying to make, and probably Emily's point to, is not that she had an NDE like white tunnels and heaven is for real and all that. Emily and I were trying to say, and you would have figured this out if you had bothered to read, that she understands what happened to her (how I phrased it, not NDE like you think) because she has had to live with the consequences every day of her life. Again with the name calling. You don't stand a chance of getting your point across if you keep it up.
@Sueezee1 says: "What the hell is heroic about a woman who can't even comprehend her near death experience...." - What do you mean she can't comprehend what happened to her?! She's undergone 4 surgeries, couldn't do even a bad excuse for walking until she was 4 years old and it started with a walker and braces, not to mention the other physical and mental effects of CP that the abortion attempt directly caused. Go away troll. Don't call people names when you don't know what you're talking about.
@JWForce1059 says: What do you mean she can't comprehend what happened to her?! She's undergone 4 surgeries
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahaha and THAT makes her comprehend her near death experience??? hahah You idiot , you cant know anything that you have no memory of. Its like saying a person undergoing heart surgery and died on the operating table a few times, would know it. Your an uneducated twit, and I hate people who choose to be stupid.
@JWForce1059says: . Don't call people names when you don't know what you're talking about.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Youre uneducated, ignorant, stupid, disgusting and have so little self esteem that you dont care if you are. I can say that because i ALWAYS know whats im talking about. (smile)
@bethlovesall says: I hope one day I can be as strong of a Christian as her
~~~~~~~~~~ What in the hell is "strong" about a women who cant even comprehend her near death experience....IF, in fact, she had one? Thats no different than my friends baby who died 3 times on the operation table at 2 days old. It emans NOTHING to her. The human brain cant comprehend anything before memory. Youre uneducated & immature
um excuse me what a jerk he didnt even let her finsih :( ugh!! wow that is poo! and she had a great point ugh !! man im sorry but that just frustrates the crap outta me and then they cut her off :( God bless Gianna wow she handled that soo well:)
What in the hell is heroic about a women who cant even comprehend her near death experience....IF, in fact, she had one? Thats no different than my friends baby who died 3 times on the operation table at 2 days old. It emans NOTHING to her. The human brain cant comprehend anything before memory. Youre uneducated & immature
Actually, the human brain can comphrend certain things even as infants and then some. When you see the abortion footage of an unborn baby trying to get away from the abortionist utensils and is not passive or lays there like a lump of cells, that means that child is more than be aware of its surroundings. Just as a blind, deaf, and mute person may not have the ability to speak or make communication when they are young - it doesn't mean they are brain-dead.
@EmilyGreene1984 says: When you see the abortion footage of an unborn baby trying to get away from the abortionist utensils and is not passive or lays there like a lump of cells, that means that child is more than be aware of its surroundings
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hahhaha, youre an idiot!! IF..there is movement, its reflexes because a fetus wouldnt know abortion tools from its mothers loving hand and it would move away from THAT too. Youre not smart enough to debate me, so this is over
wtf witth that obama's support- is it still possible to make an abortion when you're 7,5 months preagnant in USA?! and USA is the most democratic country in the world?! I don't think so..
I'm from a lot smaller country and not so developed by some means.. but murder is not something you can do and get away with it.. -you can't make an abortion after 3 months of preagnancy cause then it's already formed and it's officially HUMAN BEING.. this is sick and I can't believe that it's still happening!
Allen is an idiot. This woman has a right to be really pissed about this live abortion no help for the baby law. I mean crap did the guy forget who he was talking to..??? It kind of reminds me about the history segiment I seen on ancient Rome. A father of a child who had not been born yet left written instructions that if the child was a girl the mother was to take the baby to the dump and leave it. Expose it was the exact terms. People whats the difference????
Go, Gianna! Thanks so much for all you do. God is so good! =)
Um, Mr. Colmes. By not providing proper medical care to an abortion survivor, he/she will die. And Obama supports that; therefore, he does, in fact, support "infanticide" and does want to kill babies. If he did not want to kill babies, then he would provide for them to be cared for so they would live.
~~~~~~~~~~ Oh for Gods sake, there is not ONE single abortion proceudre that can produce a live infant today. Do all you people live in frickin caves,and not know whats going on "out here"?? Knowledge is power, and you have neither.
If a baby were to survive an abortion "porcedure," do you really think an abortion supporter would tell everyone? Gianna Jessen is proof that babies can and do survive these brutal attempts to annialate their lives. And you can't argue with personal experience.
@shotgunckdchick says: jessen is proof babies can survive abortion'
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How many damned years ago was that, you dumbass? Good god, what it is like to CHOOSE to be stupid? Just how much self esteem does one have to lack to be so damned proud of not knowing anything??
@shotgunckdchick says if a baby were to survive an abortion do you think an abortion supporter wold tell anyone.
~~~~~~~~~~ An abortion supporter??? Are you nuts? Why would they even know about it. The only people who could "tell" are the doctors, patients and aides, and the doctors cant give out private medical info, so the only one who could tell would be the mother. NOW.. you tell me which procedure EVER produce a live infant.
She's here, isn't she? Her medical records say "born during saline abortion" and the abortionist had to sign her birth certificate! Is that not proof enough?
Let me respond to your (rather rude and not-so-intelligent) statements and name calling with a question: Your mom was obviously pro-life; how could you be any different? Your mom gave *you* a chance at life; why should *you* take that chance from someone else?
@shotgunckdchick says: Her medical records say "born during saline abortion" and the abortionist had to sign her birth certificate! Is that not proof enough?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahaha,. why hell yes, the typing of words by a prolife moron is more than enough to prove it.. You've frickin GOT to be kidding me?? LOLOl, unbelievable!! I'll bet you actually think that is proof? My kingdom for ONE, just ONE, intelligent prolifer.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hahhaha..OMG... do you think women who are pro choice never have kids?? Holy crap, can you get any dumber? My mother was pro choice, you nitwit. Im done with you...youre too stupid to debate me
@shotgunckdchick says:Gianna Jessen is proof that babies can and do survive these brutal attempts to annialate their lives. Ya 40 years ago.. get some up to date, a valid info.
Also, Psalm 111:10 says: "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all who fear His precepts have good understanding." True knowledge is only brought by fearing the Lord. And if you don't fear the Lord, then it's you who has neither.
yes by all means redefine rape as the political and religious pandering of a process where Republicans & Democrats can make the world feel guilty enough too force people that might touch or be touched into litigation where the woman get inspected like the inquisition rape kit and forced to call for the baby momma to ask for the death of the baby daddy, so the rest of them can still believe baby's come from storks and taxi's murdering people all to stop abortions? And who is godly in that?
I always read the same arguments about abortion and I think pro-choice only tries to convince themselves of what they know is morally wrong. Whether they want to argue it based on religion, womens rights, or whatever arguments they want to make, I ask pro-choice defenders if they have ever seen an abortion video? I find it so sickening for pro choice to defend something they themselves can not bare to watch.
"America will not reject abortion until America sees abortion" -Priestforlife
@mboc10 says: I ask pro-choice defenders if they have ever seen an abortion video?
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Are you kidding me? Do you idiots think you are the only ones that see the vids? What the hell is worng with you people??? What do you mena we cant bear to watch it? We hate watching them because they are lies and YOU are too ignorant, brainwashed and gullible to see that. You dont have the rational idea of asking who takes all the pics of abortions in the office of a doc that is PROCHOICE
@Sueezee1 obviously it bother's you because you feel the need to argue it and use such attitude to the defend your view point! Really at this point is doesn't matter who has recorded those video, what is sickening is that YOU think it is okay to do that to a human being! So sad.
When will it be socially acceptable, and not "anti-woman," to say it's wrong to kill babies, wrong to botch the science which amplifies their humanity, and wrong to use double standards to excuse murder for convenience?
@MyLegendarySelf When will it be socially acceptable? How delusional are you? There are thousands upon thousands saying that now, just on YouTube alone.
Why are you ignoring babies/young children who are starving to death, right now, while you sit reading this comment? Why are you instead obsessing about unborn fetuses?
You must be a Republican. Before birth you are frantically defending these fetuses, then after birth you ignore them just as you ignore the millions starving each year.
@ndrthrdr1 How can you sit there and expect me to take you seriously when you're arguing that I'm not paying enough attention to children going hungry because I am talking about children who are being decapitated, literally torn limb from limb, and thrown into the garbage?
How backwards could your logic be? It could not be any more backwards.
That that bullshit rhetoric about "you must be Republican because.." Have you ever stopped and thought for yourself? Try thinking as an individual.
@MyLegendarySelf Virtually all abortions performed today are first trimester, and most of those procedures involve Embryos (first 11 weeks). They don't HAVE arms and legs.
@MyLegendarySelf said "decapitated, literally torn limb from limb"
No, by the time a fetus has arms and legs, etc., It's illegal except in cases of threat to the life of the woman, in which cases labor is induced with drugs. They don't go in with knives and start hacking. That's religious fanatic (usually Catholic or Southern Baptist) propaganda. Their real motivation is to prevent people from being able to use any contraception.
"52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy."
Now, Google "9 week old fetus" - that is 25% of legal abortions.
Now, Google "12 week old fetus" - 23% for 12 weeks and older.
We're sitting here arguing whether babies who survive botches abortions should be allowed to live, and people who are pro-choice are almost unanimously in agreement with the born-alive protection act--not counting Obama.
WHAT THE HELL is going on here? Do people think a "fetus" in the womb, upon leaving the womb, becomes a "baby entering the world?" What do you think genetically, anatomically or physically changes in a baby when passing from womb to hospital room? Are you people insane?
@klhughes89 Their is not a difference between a baby due to rape or incest. The percentage of abortions due to rape and incest is 1%. If woman chose abortion due to rape or incest than rapist would assume that woman who get pregnant would choice abortion and more raps would happen. When someone becomes pregnant due to incest, the woman often wants it to be known so it doesn't happen again. Have u ever heard of Post Abortion syndrome? God did not not create abortion, man did.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ "post abortion syndrome" that they say is widespread is NOT RECOGNIZED by either the American Psychological Association (APA) or the American Psychiatric Association. PROLIFE LIAR
@ILoveJesuChristi40 I can tell that have never encounterd someone who has suffered rape. They feel ashamed. They shouldnt but they do. If they get pregnant most abort because the baby is like a badge of that bad time, a reminder of which the woman doesnt need. I have heard of PAS. I've also studied live abortions and the effect. Ive spent many years analysing religion and science from an unbiased view coz i havnt been brough up to believe in either. Religion considers no factor but itself.
It's sad when someone can go to prison for fighting dogs and still its okay to kill babies? No matter what the media says and abortionists are gonna lie and make it sound okay because its legal, and being legal That doesnt make it right. They say its a womans choice but what choice did that baby have? .Im sorry no offense but if your old enough to have sex than your old enough to take care of the baby or at least have the baby and if you didnt want him or her then adoption is always possible.
@18apostolicalcoholic . There isnt even enough adoptive parents out there today let alone to cater for 50 million more. Which would mean more orphanages where they are not nurtured correctly and as is statistically proven, they would be more criminally inclined as a result. It's easy for religion to say no to aboriton but it doenst offer ways of how to cope with a huge population boom and this is where society has to pick up the pieces for you again.
an unborn baby is human and no different than someone killing a person outside the womb. It is not a choice. God does gives us free will,but he wants us to make the right decision. It is unfortunate that some woman feel that they have to have an abortion to get out of a difficult situation. WE can do all things through Christ who strengths us. I don't hate those who have gone through with it, I just want them to know of God's forgiveness and love. They often have psych,spiritual,phy problems.
@ILoveJesuChristi40 It's ridiculous to assume that people who abort have pyschological problems. What do you suggest for the ppl who abort due to foetal illness or because its a result of a rape? If you insist that you're God creates all then he must have created abortion thus making him not 'All good' and if he didnt create abortion then you must admit that he is not 'all powerful'. I feel that people like you, who have been sheltered by religion cannot comment on this topic.
@klhughes89 Well, we believe God created all things good. That is, His original creation was perfect. But humanity takes His good and perfect creation and perverts it. So, God created the human body, and it's an incredible, beautiful thing. However, He did not intend it to be used for porn. That is something WE created on our own. God made us creative beings, therefore, we can be given credit for some creations. God did not make cars; He gave US the CAPACITY to create them.
@riahchu Yes but the bible says God is omnipresent (everywhere) omnipotent (all powerful) omniscient. (all knowing) and omnibenevolent. (all good) but if you just look at the world then these are clearly contradictions. If you look at abortion. God must either not be all powerful and he cant stop it, or he must not be all good because he allows it, or he must not be all knowing and present and be unaware of it. Respectfully, I have faith in a higher being but not in a god that we humans created.
@klhughes89 Yeah, that has always been a very troubling question... If God is truly all-good and all-powerful as he claims, then why is there so much illness/death/hardship in this world? I know I can say that I've had my doubts. I think it all boils down to this: God never intended things to be this way. He could have stopped Adam and Eve in the garden before they sinned. But he wanted humans to have free-will. That way, we are not FORCED to love him, but rather, we choose to love him.
@klhughes89 I think that makes all the difference. We can choose for ourselves. Adam and Eve chose to disobey, bringing sin into the world. And because of that sin, everyone must now suffer for it, even the earth. I think God grieves over incidents like the Haiti earthquake and the flooding in Australia. He could stop it (and I believe that he does intervene sometimes), but this is the result of Adam's choice. But we have hope that God WILL restore humanity and the earth to perfection.
@klhughes89 Anyways, thanks for being so civil about this, unlike people who just run their mouths... And sorry for the multiple replies. It's a hard thing to discuss with such limited space.
Additionally, they could have become adults and had the cure for cancer, aids and maybe even a reversal for global warming and an answer for world hunger. It's a sick world that says "anything goes as long as it is convenient and quick for me and it's what I want". Have some respect for life and if you can't handle a baby, keep your darn legs together!
There have been some comments made that stated things like, "we don't need any more retards". First of all, you are some kind of sick! Second of all who ever said that the children who are being aborted are, in your words "retards" anyway? Babies are being aborted just because it's an inconvenience to the mother. There is a good chance that these lives would have grown into successful members of society, not just criminals and invalids like you say.
@klhughes89 If there were no abortions period, we would have a much stronger economy; 50 million people = the American work force. Legal & Illegal immigrants filled in the gap.
Besides, since when is human life determined by economics? We are more valuable than that perspective. We deserve to live.
@ToshiroHoshi Not neccessarily. There are different reasons for these abortions but nevertheless they were unwanted pregnancies. how do you suggest the economy would cope with 50 million unwanted births? There would be a rise in orphanges and as is statistically proven where a child has not been nurtured effectively in a family type environment, they would be more criminally inclined thus resulting in a rise of jails. I venehmently disgree with abortion methods but not the practice overall.
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO, IS KILL ALL THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS IN THE NAME OF AN UNPROVEN GOD AND SCRIPTURES WHICH TELL US SPECIFICALLY NOT TO KILL AND TO LOVE OUR "ENEMIES". Oh wait, that's stupid. Please, stop just believing what your preacher says, look into yourself and this unhealthy dependence to an unproven being who is supposedly all powerful but allows this to happen. If you still believe in God, please do not bring it in my face and PLEASE do not pray for me.
@MrLolsauce69 Not that it justifies abortion, but I believe scripture teaches that all those aborted people will be in Heaven with God for eternity so, that is a tremendous mercy in my view. God's ways are not our ways; they are higher than the heavens. Actually, scripture tells us not to murder; killing as capital punishment and in times of war are allowed by God; (don't have enough characters to type it but Romans chapter 13 deals with this.)
@ToshiroHoshi That's cool if you want to get into a scripture debate, but here's two things that make me not want to. 1. I personally do not believe in God. 2. Even if I did, those scriptures were not written by God, but by mortals.
Gianna, YOU'RE AN ANGEL sent from Heaven. You're a messenger from God and we need to heed the law! God Bless and Keep you safe! I will keep you in my prayers.. Please remember me in yours!
@jeepjeeplady Another jesus fucker to add to the list i see.The time is coming when you people will be left to soil in your filth.You are probly child molesters,theives,liars but i already knew that.Father Satan is God,You would look real good skined.Go suck jesus cock you fucking coward.No one cares about any of you expect your fellow child molesters.Bring it on assholes we've already WON....Come on go up agianst me and see who breaks...all of your bones is what i'll hear hitting the ground.yum
Who died and made you God squeezi? So because a scentist tells you that a fetus isn't a Human yet (even up till 9 months) you simply believe them? how is that any different from religious people following what their preachers tell them? I am sorry for being rude in my earlier post, it really just upset me that you were laughing over abortion. Since it's happening it should be taken very seriously, saying a child isn't born and therefore not 'alive' doesn't take away from what abortion is
@gwyyyyn What scientist said fetuses weren't human? Fetuses are human tissue. So are sperm. So are tumors.
But this isn't the same as being a human being. Being a human being requires sentience. Being a human being requires agency. These, sperm, tumors, and fetuses critically lack.
@juliewashere88 when did we decide to become so cold hearted that we don't even allow a nine month old who has been born live? killing babies after failed abortions, how barbaric IS that? when did we decide that the weaker just has to die off? I'm sorry but it literally breaks my heart.
@juliewashere88 Fair point, however, sperm on its own, does not have the opportunity of leading a sentient life, a tumour on its own does not have the opportunity to lead a sentient life but a foetus does. What makes the murder of a human adult life so bad? I say the worst aspect of murdering an adult is robbing them of the opportunity of their future and experiences to come. To me, this is equally a applicable to the unborn.
@tgc1601 No, a fetus on it's own doesn't have the opportunity of living a sentient life. If it did, abortion wouldn't prevent that.
Murdering is wrong because you are killing a sentient being and violating their rights.
There's no such t thing as "the unborn." Calling a fetus that is dishonest because it ignores the differences between fetuses and people. The biggest among these are sentience and parasitism.
You can't murder non-sentient tissue, neither can killing in self-defense be murder.
@juliewashere88 mmm I absolutely fail to see the point you are trying to make. Let's forget the self-defence aspect; it has no relevance to the argument (unless you may way wish to clarify how it does). How can you claim a foetus does not have the opportunity to become a sentient being? I was a foetus once and I am a sentient being; had I been aborted I would have lost that opportunity as a foetus to become a sentient being.
@tgc1601 It doesn't on its own, as you said it did. Neither does a sperm. Both have potential even if the odds aren't equal.
I was never a fetus precisely because I am a sentient being. I require sentience to be an I. I was never a fetus for the same reason I was never a sperm, there simply was no me yet.
If your dad had not slept with your mom that particular night, there would likewise never be a you and no opportunity to become a sentient being - just like with abortion.
@juliewashere88 No, I said it has the opportunity of becoming a sentient being. Regardless, your argument is based on the, let's say, non-person-hood of the foetus. I find this far too narrow to accept; because you now need to find a way of brooding the criteria of person-hood to include recently born infants or mentally retarded people (otherwise you cannot have a problem with ending the life a new born child).
@tgc1601 Continued: And yes, abortion IS self defense. I have a right to protect my body from violation and harm as well as the right to protect my future.
@juliewashere88 unless you only agree with abortion on the grounds of saving the mother's life, your self defence argument is pretty weak. If I was to end my neighbour's life on the grounds that he was going to disrupt my future, would it be reasonable for me to claim 'self-defence'; if my life was not in danger? I think not
@tgc1601 Even newborn infants and the mentally handicapped have the capacity for sentience.
The right to choose, however, isn't about fetuses, it's about women.
If your neighbor tried to rape you or steal your blood or organs you could defend yourself too with any amount of force necessary. You have the right to defend your body from violation and harm.
Incidentally, ALL pregnancies are a threat to the woman's health and life even if no complications are foreseen
By that logic a foetus must have the capacity for sentience. Only difference is one is inside the womb, the other is not. Do you think something magical happens when a baby leaves the womb?? Does it suddenly get endowed with conscience or sentience the second it's head pops out? What about premature babies in an incubator??? The holes in your logic are endless.
@tgc1601 That's a strawman fallacy. I never hinted at anywhere that passing through a birth canal is magic. The difference between people and tissue is sentience. Fetuses early enough in gestation to be legal removed do not have the capacity for sentience. That doesn't develop until very late in term.
Of course you'll find holes in "my logic" when you ignore what I actually say and just make shit up I never said at all.
@bandnerd9110 says: ask any biologist, the moment a sperm meets an egg, life is created
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Biology has NO concensus on the issue of abortion. Its about rights of people,the law, the 5th, 9th, 13th, & 14th Amendments,The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, The Supreme Court, social custom and necessity, & Roe v. Wade & NO science. Your comment is moot.
The truth is that Obama opposed the bill due to dubious language and the possibility of affecting abortion law in Illinois. When the bill was reintroduced to match the federal law, it was approved unanimously. Her ad is bs. She tried to say Obama "supports infanticide," and that is false. That's just some insane hyperbole. The real truth is that he was protecting freedom just as any good legislator would.
Anyone who watches this and still supports pro choice, you truly are an evil,evil person. If I run into you, I will not hesitate to call you out for what you are. I will expose you,harass you,until you stop. I promise that.
the evidence does not support the idea fetus have fully developed minds. they are unconcious until birth and dont feel pain or anything. also, do you know how many people DIE of illegal abortions were it's illegal? do you want people throwing unwanted children into dumpters or drowning them? pencil abortions??
Well, why doesn't the mother just do the right thing and take responsibility instead of killing the child? The irony is if you were aborted, you wouldn't be here to spew the murder agenda.And yet you don't even want to take that into consideration. Too much for you to handle? Well, if they're illegal, maybe they shouldn't be getting abortions in the first place. And don't feed me that b.s spew people like you tend to do.
@Hudsucker94 says: why doesn't the mother just do the right thing and take responsibility instead of killing the child
~~~~~~~~~~ Because its not the right thing to her. When will you comprehend that all the women of the world wont have babies to make YOU happy. LOLOL
@Hudsucker94 Your womb pregnancy and childbirth envy is showing. Why dont you find a surrogate to impregnate, have a sex change during the pregnancy, then became his biological mother. That might satisify your preoccupation which is evidence of your feminine pregnancy envy.
@Hudsucker94 says: The irony is if you were aborted, you wouldn't be here to spew the murder agenda
~~~~~~~~~~~ And no one would know we wenrt here, OR could have been here.. so what would it matter? It wold be the same if our mothers never got pregnany with us. And I'll bet you cant understand why your ideas wont work for you. you clearly fall too short in your capacity for principle-level and abstract thinking to debate this matter
@Hudsucker94 says: I will expose you,harass you,until you stop. I promise that
~~~~~~~~ There it is!! The violent mentality of the prolifer. is your gun ready for the abortion doctor? Your bomb ready for the clinic? Your fear tactics dont work buddy! Youre a whimp who cant fight this words.
And here we have yet another example of the emasculating feminazi who foolishly and wrongfully assumes anyone who disagrees with her is some whacko ready to kill. Wow. Reactionary much? Prolifers aren't the only ones who are violent, not that I think it's right, but I mean, you people are standing up for the "rights" to kill someone. Who's really the violent one here? Why do you so adamantly defend the ability for someone to kill another person? Abortion is murder, no matter what way the
@Hudsucker94 says: you people are standig up for rights to kill someone
~~~~~~~~~~~~ PROLIFE LIAR. A fetus isnt a someone, insinuating a person. Intelligent people would rather be hurt by honesty than pleased by your lies ... Do you have any truths hud? Do you have ANYhting helpful? Anything honest, legal, rational, intelligent? You always spit into the wind and get hit int he face.. To bad you dont have any pride in yourslef.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Youre a propaganda machines, cultivating hatred of abortion with deciet & lies. You foster public indifference as Hitler did w/ the Jews......and because of that.... abortion will never be illegal
feminazis and liberal media propagandists spin it. And it's blood money as well. Yet you are the ones who so hypocritically protest the wars and the death penalties,which both I am opposed too btw. You think you're so strong and brave for standing up for murder. But in reality, you are just an empty,hollow coward trying to deny reality.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Its so sad you have to lie. Did you learn that as a child.... that if you tell the truth you will be in real trouble, and the best way to save yourself is to never be honest and you wont get hurt? Youre a coward of the worst kind. Intelligent people would rather be hurt by honesty than pleased by your lies
@Hudsucker94 says: hypocritically protest the wars and the death penalties
~~~~~~~ Whats hypocritical about wanting to protect those who have the right to be protected, and not choosing to protect an entity that dosent exsist in the realm of EVERYhting that denotes our humanbeingness? You would get as much attention if you were obsessed with space aliens, that no one knows do, or ever will exsist. Thats defined as not being comprehensible in terms of normal mental processes
@Hudsucker94 says: I will expose you,harass you,until you stop
~~~~~~~~~ Strong women wont stop anything they choose to do just because of a pissed of cronie. Abortion will continue and we will get a good laugh out of you! LOL
~~~~~~~~~~~~ No names will be used..... and with the redundent, repetative prolife comments, no one will be able to prove their words from anyone elses..
What's this book gonna be titled? I'll keep my eyes open for it, and well, we'll see what happens. If anything, you babykillers are the reptitive ones. You're cowards who won't admit you are wrong.
Well, when you have a title, tell me, I'll watch for it. See what kind of new lies and bs you make up, or what old ones you puke up,re-use,and retwist.
@Hudsucker94 says: See what kind of new lies and bs you make up
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LOL, make-up? These will be quotes, and provable if nesessary (I keep good records), and They will ALL be on YT for the world to see.....proof positive of the insane, irrational, selfish, controlling, dishonest and decietful ideas of pro - birthers. The world HAS to see this!
@Hudsucker94 says: You're cowards who won't admit you are wrong.
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LOLOl, ok, watch this!! "I'm wrong". Yet, abortion is still going on....still legal...and still needed. Seems anyones opinion of right and/or wrong means squat. Got anything that could work for you?
I'm not a liar, you're the liar. You won't call abortion what it really is, murder. You dance around it and try to redefine it instead of saying the truth. What have I lied about? No don't answer that. I don't need to hear anymore lies and manipulations from you.
@Hudsucker94 says: I'm not a liar, you're the liar. You won't call abortion what it really is, murder
~~~~~~~~~~~ That could be a great title for the section on prolifes calling aboriton murder ( my information base on THAT alone, is neverending) . As a matter of fact, its perfection. Lying and demanding you arent. The proverbial prolife rubble. THAT is what this will be all about.
Yeah. It was a reference to you and you're failure of an attempt to attack me,and you're pitiful attempt at wittiness. You are an awful human being, and if it were up to me, I'd put you all in jail for crimes against humanity. Now you are going insult those with special needs? Is there any low people like you won't sink too?
Wow that squeezy person is clearly the biggest idiot I've ever seen. I know you've probably had about 5 million abortions (although how you got a man to sleep with u is beyond me) but babies should have rights, and when you're laughing about their lack thereof then you don't deserve to even talk. Run along home now.
poor gianna having to put up with that weasel.
PopeOfTheUniverse 2 weeks ago 2
what happened to adoption as an option ?????
Tazergurl34 3 weeks ago
@ndrthrdr1 A person's a person, no matter how small. - Horton Hears a Who
kaylafisherable 3 weeks ago
Reagan's quote sums it all up.
victura100 2 months ago 4
The point I'm trying to make, and probably Emily's point to, is not that she had an NDE like white tunnels and heaven is for real and all that. Emily and I were trying to say, and you would have figured this out if you had bothered to read, that she understands what happened to her (how I phrased it, not NDE like you think) because she has had to live with the consequences every day of her life. Again with the name calling. You don't stand a chance of getting your point across if you keep it up.
JWForce1059 6 months ago
@Sueezee1 says: "What the hell is heroic about a woman who can't even comprehend her near death experience...." - What do you mean she can't comprehend what happened to her?! She's undergone 4 surgeries, couldn't do even a bad excuse for walking until she was 4 years old and it started with a walker and braces, not to mention the other physical and mental effects of CP that the abortion attempt directly caused. Go away troll. Don't call people names when you don't know what you're talking about.
JWForce1059 6 months ago
@JWForce1059 says: What do you mean she can't comprehend what happened to her?! She's undergone 4 surgeries
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahaha and THAT makes her comprehend her near death experience??? hahah You idiot , you cant know anything that you have no memory of. Its like saying a person undergoing heart surgery and died on the operating table a few times, would know it. Your an uneducated twit, and I hate people who choose to be stupid.
Sueezee1 6 months ago
@JWForce1059says: . Don't call people names when you don't know what you're talking about.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Youre uneducated, ignorant, stupid, disgusting and have so little self esteem that you dont care if you are. I can say that because i ALWAYS know whats im talking about. (smile)
Sueezee1 6 months ago
the man on the right (alan) totally bullied her
amcgrrl 8 months ago
This woman is so amazing and inspiring! I hope one day I can be as strong of a Christian as her
bethlovesall 8 months ago
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@bethlovesall says: I hope one day I can be as strong of a Christian as her
~~~~~~~~~~ What in the hell is "strong" about a women who cant even comprehend her near death experience....IF, in fact, she had one? Thats no different than my friends baby who died 3 times on the operation table at 2 days old. It emans NOTHING to her. The human brain cant comprehend anything before memory. Youre uneducated & immature
Sueezee1 8 months ago
um excuse me what a jerk he didnt even let her finsih :( ugh!! wow that is poo! and she had a great point ugh !! man im sorry but that just frustrates the crap outta me and then they cut her off :( God bless Gianna wow she handled that soo well:)
buchieluv 8 months ago
she is my hero! i cant stand the thought of babies being killed for the well being of their mother. STOP ABORTION NOW!
sexytennisbitch1 8 months ago
@sexytennisbitch1 says: she is my hero!
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What in the hell is heroic about a women who cant even comprehend her near death experience....IF, in fact, she had one? Thats no different than my friends baby who died 3 times on the operation table at 2 days old. It emans NOTHING to her. The human brain cant comprehend anything before memory. Youre uneducated & immature
Sueezee1 8 months ago
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EmilyGreene1984 7 months ago
Actually, the human brain can comphrend certain things even as infants and then some. When you see the abortion footage of an unborn baby trying to get away from the abortionist utensils and is not passive or lays there like a lump of cells, that means that child is more than be aware of its surroundings. Just as a blind, deaf, and mute person may not have the ability to speak or make communication when they are young - it doesn't mean they are brain-dead.
EmilyGreene1984 7 months ago
@EmilyGreene1984 says: the human brain can comphrend certain things
~~~~~~~~ Youre an ignorant, uneducated twit. NO, no one can compreheand ANyhting that hasent happend to them before.
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@EmilyGreene1984 says: When you see the abortion footage of an unborn baby trying to get away from the abortionist utensils and is not passive or lays there like a lump of cells, that means that child is more than be aware of its surroundings
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hahhaha, youre an idiot!! IF..there is movement, its reflexes because a fetus wouldnt know abortion tools from its mothers loving hand and it would move away from THAT too. Youre not smart enough to debate me, so this is over
Sueezee1 7 months ago
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@sexytennisbitch1 says: cant stand the thought of babies being killed for the well being of their mother.
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LOl, Yet, you LOVE the idea of unwanted, often hated babies being born for YOUR damned well being!!! When do you start caring for the kids?
Sueezee1 8 months ago
wtf witth that obama's support- is it still possible to make an abortion when you're 7,5 months preagnant in USA?! and USA is the most democratic country in the world?! I don't think so..
I'm from a lot smaller country and not so developed by some means.. but murder is not something you can do and get away with it.. -you can't make an abortion after 3 months of preagnancy cause then it's already formed and it's officially HUMAN BEING.. this is sick and I can't believe that it's still happening!
opalescence0 9 months ago
She is Catholic or Protestant?
ShihanShinger 9 months ago
@ShihanShinger Protestant
bethlovesall 8 months ago
You stick to your guns friend. Respectfully stay on track! God Bless You!
mtgal82 9 months ago
she is so smart and seems very intelligent. im glad her life was saved and she is here today...
88948895611499 9 months ago
Allen is an idiot. This woman has a right to be really pissed about this live abortion no help for the baby law. I mean crap did the guy forget who he was talking to..??? It kind of reminds me about the history segiment I seen on ancient Rome. A father of a child who had not been born yet left written instructions that if the child was a girl the mother was to take the baby to the dump and leave it. Expose it was the exact terms. People whats the difference????
Okridiculous1 10 months ago
Go, Gianna! Thanks so much for all you do. God is so good! =)
Um, Mr. Colmes. By not providing proper medical care to an abortion survivor, he/she will die. And Obama supports that; therefore, he does, in fact, support "infanticide" and does want to kill babies. If he did not want to kill babies, then he would provide for them to be cared for so they would live.
shotgunckdchick 10 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says Obama supports it
~~~~~~~~~~ Oh for Gods sake, there is not ONE single abortion proceudre that can produce a live infant today. Do all you people live in frickin caves,and not know whats going on "out here"?? Knowledge is power, and you have neither.
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@Sueezee1
If a baby were to survive an abortion "porcedure," do you really think an abortion supporter would tell everyone? Gianna Jessen is proof that babies can and do survive these brutal attempts to annialate their lives. And you can't argue with personal experience.
shotgunckdchick 10 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says: jessen is proof babies can survive abortion'
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How many damned years ago was that, you dumbass? Good god, what it is like to CHOOSE to be stupid? Just how much self esteem does one have to lack to be so damned proud of not knowing anything??
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says if a baby were to survive an abortion do you think an abortion supporter wold tell anyone.
~~~~~~~~~~ An abortion supporter??? Are you nuts? Why would they even know about it. The only people who could "tell" are the doctors, patients and aides, and the doctors cant give out private medical info, so the only one who could tell would be the mother. NOW.. you tell me which procedure EVER produce a live infant.
Sueezee1 10 months ago
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Im re wording that...tell me what abortion procedure can produce a live infantt TODAY. Eagerly awaiting your intelligent response.
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says you cant argue with personal experience.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ prove Gianna story is valid.. You cant. No one ever has.
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@Sueezee1
She's here, isn't she? Her medical records say "born during saline abortion" and the abortionist had to sign her birth certificate! Is that not proof enough?
Let me respond to your (rather rude and not-so-intelligent) statements and name calling with a question: Your mom was obviously pro-life; how could you be any different? Your mom gave *you* a chance at life; why should *you* take that chance from someone else?
shotgunckdchick 10 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says: Her medical records say "born during saline abortion" and the abortionist had to sign her birth certificate! Is that not proof enough?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahaha,. why hell yes, the typing of words by a prolife moron is more than enough to prove it.. You've frickin GOT to be kidding me?? LOLOl, unbelievable!! I'll bet you actually think that is proof? My kingdom for ONE, just ONE, intelligent prolifer.
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says: your mom was obvioulsy pro life
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hahhaha..OMG... do you think women who are pro choice never have kids?? Holy crap, can you get any dumber? My mother was pro choice, you nitwit. Im done with you...youre too stupid to debate me
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@Sueezee1
"I've noticed that everyone who supports abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan
shotgunckdchick 10 months ago 15
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Hah, okay. We weren't really debating. You were just calling me names. But thank you for stopping.
shotgunckdchick 10 months ago
@Sueezee1 wow. you sound pretty retarded yourself. :)
OniLordMiki 8 months ago
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@OniLordMiki says: you sound pretty retarded yourself.
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attempting to distract people in debates is a common, active strategy for people who are stumped by ones argument
Sueezee1 8 months ago
@shotgunckdchick says:Gianna Jessen is proof that babies can and do survive these brutal attempts to annialate their lives. Ya 40 years ago.. get some up to date, a valid info.
Sueezee1 10 months ago
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shotgunckdchick 10 months ago
@Sueezee1
Also, Psalm 111:10 says: "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all who fear His precepts have good understanding." True knowledge is only brought by fearing the Lord. And if you don't fear the Lord, then it's you who has neither.
shotgunckdchick 10 months ago
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@shotgunckdchick says: Go, Gianna! Thanks so much for all you do. God is so good! =)
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why didnt he save the other babies??
Sueezee1 7 months ago
I hate how he Colmes doesn't let her speak
gglennwill 11 months ago
Obama...with all due respect..grow a pair
lowbattery34 11 months ago
Alan needs to shut up and let Gianna talk
spm201 11 months ago
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yes by all means redefine rape as the political and religious pandering of a process where Republicans & Democrats can make the world feel guilty enough too force people that might touch or be touched into litigation where the woman get inspected like the inquisition rape kit and forced to call for the baby momma to ask for the death of the baby daddy, so the rest of them can still believe baby's come from storks and taxi's murdering people all to stop abortions? And who is godly in that?
Keither9 11 months ago
I always read the same arguments about abortion and I think pro-choice only tries to convince themselves of what they know is morally wrong. Whether they want to argue it based on religion, womens rights, or whatever arguments they want to make, I ask pro-choice defenders if they have ever seen an abortion video? I find it so sickening for pro choice to defend something they themselves can not bare to watch.
"America will not reject abortion until America sees abortion" -Priestforlife
mboc10 1 year ago
@mboc10 says: I ask pro-choice defenders if they have ever seen an abortion video?
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Are you kidding me? Do you idiots think you are the only ones that see the vids? What the hell is worng with you people??? What do you mena we cant bear to watch it? We hate watching them because they are lies and YOU are too ignorant, brainwashed and gullible to see that. You dont have the rational idea of asking who takes all the pics of abortions in the office of a doc that is PROCHOICE
Sueezee1 11 months ago
@mboc10 says=" ask pro-choicers defenders if they ever seen an abortion video.."
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Seen a video??
Are you kidding?
Why,,, @Sueezee1 and her daughter not only watch all the abortion videos,,,,they refer to them as----- " HOME MOVIES"!
ekajeht 11 months ago
@Sueezee1 obviously it bother's you because you feel the need to argue it and use such attitude to the defend your view point! Really at this point is doesn't matter who has recorded those video, what is sickening is that YOU think it is okay to do that to a human being! So sad.
mboc10 10 months ago
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@mboc10 says: what is sickening is that YOU think it is okay to do that to a human being!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PROLIFE LIAR ALERT...its not a human being, if it was, abortion wold be illegal..i love dumb people
Sueezee1 10 months ago
@mboc10 says what is sickeing to think its ok to do that to a human being
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'LOLol, You believe I think its sick for a doctor to mess up an abortion?? yes, I do!
Sueezee1 10 months ago
Gianna Jessen would make good wife
TheWarriorchamp 1 year ago
When will it be socially acceptable, and not "anti-woman," to say it's wrong to kill babies, wrong to botch the science which amplifies their humanity, and wrong to use double standards to excuse murder for convenience?
MyLegendarySelf 1 year ago 14
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ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
@MyLegendarySelf When will it be socially acceptable? How delusional are you? There are thousands upon thousands saying that now, just on YouTube alone.
Why are you ignoring babies/young children who are starving to death, right now, while you sit reading this comment? Why are you instead obsessing about unborn fetuses?
You must be a Republican. Before birth you are frantically defending these fetuses, then after birth you ignore them just as you ignore the millions starving each year.
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 How can you sit there and expect me to take you seriously when you're arguing that I'm not paying enough attention to children going hungry because I am talking about children who are being decapitated, literally torn limb from limb, and thrown into the garbage?
How backwards could your logic be? It could not be any more backwards.
That that bullshit rhetoric about "you must be Republican because.." Have you ever stopped and thought for yourself? Try thinking as an individual.
MyLegendarySelf 3 months ago
@MyLegendarySelf Virtually all abortions performed today are first trimester, and most of those procedures involve Embryos (first 11 weeks). They don't HAVE arms and legs.
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MyLegendarySelf 3 months ago
@MyLegendarySelf said "decapitated, literally torn limb from limb"
No, by the time a fetus has arms and legs, etc., It's illegal except in cases of threat to the life of the woman, in which cases labor is induced with drugs. They don't go in with knives and start hacking. That's religious fanatic (usually Catholic or Southern Baptist) propaganda. Their real motivation is to prevent people from being able to use any contraception.
They're a small but very active lunatic fringe.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 I'm so happy I found you! :]
Here is the TRUTH:
"52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy."
Now, Google "9 week old fetus" - that is 25% of legal abortions.
Now, Google "12 week old fetus" - 23% for 12 weeks and older.
MyLegendarySelf 3 months ago
@MyLegendarySelf At 12 weeks, the fetus is still shorter than your index finger. This is the "child"?
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Are you afraid to look at the pictures?
MyLegendarySelf 3 months ago
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ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
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@MyLegendarySelf I've seen the pictures, mostly faked.
Some people are easily frightened - and fooled.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 So what??? size matters not!!!!!!
freewilllover 4 weeks ago
@ndrthrdr1 yes. it is. it is alive and yes it is a child not even. it is a baby.
andieatscandy 3 weeks ago
@ndrthrdr1 Even so abortion is wrong even at 1 week, cause killng humans is wrong!
freewilllover 4 weeks ago
We're sitting here arguing whether babies who survive botches abortions should be allowed to live, and people who are pro-choice are almost unanimously in agreement with the born-alive protection act--not counting Obama.
WHAT THE HELL is going on here? Do people think a "fetus" in the womb, upon leaving the womb, becomes a "baby entering the world?" What do you think genetically, anatomically or physically changes in a baby when passing from womb to hospital room? Are you people insane?
MyLegendarySelf 1 year ago
@klhughes89 Their is not a difference between a baby due to rape or incest. The percentage of abortions due to rape and incest is 1%. If woman chose abortion due to rape or incest than rapist would assume that woman who get pregnant would choice abortion and more raps would happen. When someone becomes pregnant due to incest, the woman often wants it to be known so it doesn't happen again. Have u ever heard of Post Abortion syndrome? God did not not create abortion, man did.
ILoveJesuChristi40 1 year ago
@ILoveJesuChristi40 says: Have u ever heard of Post Abortion syndrome?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ "post abortion syndrome" that they say is widespread is NOT RECOGNIZED by either the American Psychological Association (APA) or the American Psychiatric Association. PROLIFE LIAR
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@ILoveJesuChristi40 SAYSGod did not not create abortion, man did.
~~~~~~~~~~ prove it
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@ILoveJesuChristi40 I can tell that have never encounterd someone who has suffered rape. They feel ashamed. They shouldnt but they do. If they get pregnant most abort because the baby is like a badge of that bad time, a reminder of which the woman doesnt need. I have heard of PAS. I've also studied live abortions and the effect. Ive spent many years analysing religion and science from an unbiased view coz i havnt been brough up to believe in either. Religion considers no factor but itself.
klhughes89 1 year ago
@ILoveJesuChristi40 "God did not not create abortion, man did."
also man created god
parentheticalstain 8 months ago
It's sad when someone can go to prison for fighting dogs and still its okay to kill babies? No matter what the media says and abortionists are gonna lie and make it sound okay because its legal, and being legal That doesnt make it right. They say its a womans choice but what choice did that baby have? .Im sorry no offense but if your old enough to have sex than your old enough to take care of the baby or at least have the baby and if you didnt want him or her then adoption is always possible.
18apostolicalcoholic 1 year ago
@18apostolicalcoholic . There isnt even enough adoptive parents out there today let alone to cater for 50 million more. Which would mean more orphanages where they are not nurtured correctly and as is statistically proven, they would be more criminally inclined as a result. It's easy for religion to say no to aboriton but it doenst offer ways of how to cope with a huge population boom and this is where society has to pick up the pieces for you again.
klhughes89 1 year ago
an unborn baby is human and no different than someone killing a person outside the womb. It is not a choice. God does gives us free will,but he wants us to make the right decision. It is unfortunate that some woman feel that they have to have an abortion to get out of a difficult situation. WE can do all things through Christ who strengths us. I don't hate those who have gone through with it, I just want them to know of God's forgiveness and love. They often have psych,spiritual,phy problems.
ILoveJesuChristi40 1 year ago
@ILoveJesuChristi40 It's ridiculous to assume that people who abort have pyschological problems. What do you suggest for the ppl who abort due to foetal illness or because its a result of a rape? If you insist that you're God creates all then he must have created abortion thus making him not 'All good' and if he didnt create abortion then you must admit that he is not 'all powerful'. I feel that people like you, who have been sheltered by religion cannot comment on this topic.
klhughes89 1 year ago
@klhughes89 Well, we believe God created all things good. That is, His original creation was perfect. But humanity takes His good and perfect creation and perverts it. So, God created the human body, and it's an incredible, beautiful thing. However, He did not intend it to be used for porn. That is something WE created on our own. God made us creative beings, therefore, we can be given credit for some creations. God did not make cars; He gave US the CAPACITY to create them.
riahchu 1 year ago
@riahchu Yes but the bible says God is omnipresent (everywhere) omnipotent (all powerful) omniscient. (all knowing) and omnibenevolent. (all good) but if you just look at the world then these are clearly contradictions. If you look at abortion. God must either not be all powerful and he cant stop it, or he must not be all good because he allows it, or he must not be all knowing and present and be unaware of it. Respectfully, I have faith in a higher being but not in a god that we humans created.
klhughes89 1 year ago
@klhughes89 Yeah, that has always been a very troubling question... If God is truly all-good and all-powerful as he claims, then why is there so much illness/death/hardship in this world? I know I can say that I've had my doubts. I think it all boils down to this: God never intended things to be this way. He could have stopped Adam and Eve in the garden before they sinned. But he wanted humans to have free-will. That way, we are not FORCED to love him, but rather, we choose to love him.
riahchu 1 year ago
@klhughes89 I think that makes all the difference. We can choose for ourselves. Adam and Eve chose to disobey, bringing sin into the world. And because of that sin, everyone must now suffer for it, even the earth. I think God grieves over incidents like the Haiti earthquake and the flooding in Australia. He could stop it (and I believe that he does intervene sometimes), but this is the result of Adam's choice. But we have hope that God WILL restore humanity and the earth to perfection.
riahchu 1 year ago
@klhughes89 Anyways, thanks for being so civil about this, unlike people who just run their mouths... And sorry for the multiple replies. It's a hard thing to discuss with such limited space.
riahchu 1 year ago
Additionally, they could have become adults and had the cure for cancer, aids and maybe even a reversal for global warming and an answer for world hunger. It's a sick world that says "anything goes as long as it is convenient and quick for me and it's what I want". Have some respect for life and if you can't handle a baby, keep your darn legs together!
helgacrystal 1 year ago
@helgacrystal says: hey could have become adults and had the cure for cancer, aids and maybe even
~~~~~~~~~~~ Sure, and more mass murders, child abusers, molester, stalkers, killers, and the list goes on...try using your head BEFORE you speak,
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@helgacrystal says if you cant handle a baby keep you legs together
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Keep YOUR damned nose of of vaginas tthat arent YOURS!!!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
There have been some comments made that stated things like, "we don't need any more retards". First of all, you are some kind of sick! Second of all who ever said that the children who are being aborted are, in your words "retards" anyway? Babies are being aborted just because it's an inconvenience to the mother. There is a good chance that these lives would have grown into successful members of society, not just criminals and invalids like you say.
helgacrystal 1 year ago
However barbaric abortion procedures are America's economy would never have survived had the 50 million abortions since 1973 end in live births.
klhughes89 1 year ago
@klhughes89 If there were no abortions period, we would have a much stronger economy; 50 million people = the American work force. Legal & Illegal immigrants filled in the gap.
Besides, since when is human life determined by economics? We are more valuable than that perspective. We deserve to live.
ToshiroHoshi 1 year ago
@ToshiroHoshi Not neccessarily. There are different reasons for these abortions but nevertheless they were unwanted pregnancies. how do you suggest the economy would cope with 50 million unwanted births? There would be a rise in orphanges and as is statistically proven where a child has not been nurtured effectively in a family type environment, they would be more criminally inclined thus resulting in a rise of jails. I venehmently disgree with abortion methods but not the practice overall.
klhughes89 1 year ago
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO, IS KILL ALL THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS IN THE NAME OF AN UNPROVEN GOD AND SCRIPTURES WHICH TELL US SPECIFICALLY NOT TO KILL AND TO LOVE OUR "ENEMIES". Oh wait, that's stupid. Please, stop just believing what your preacher says, look into yourself and this unhealthy dependence to an unproven being who is supposedly all powerful but allows this to happen. If you still believe in God, please do not bring it in my face and PLEASE do not pray for me.
MrLolsauce69 1 year ago
@MrLolsauce69 Not that it justifies abortion, but I believe scripture teaches that all those aborted people will be in Heaven with God for eternity so, that is a tremendous mercy in my view. God's ways are not our ways; they are higher than the heavens. Actually, scripture tells us not to murder; killing as capital punishment and in times of war are allowed by God; (don't have enough characters to type it but Romans chapter 13 deals with this.)
ToshiroHoshi 1 year ago
@ToshiroHoshi That's cool if you want to get into a scripture debate, but here's two things that make me not want to. 1. I personally do not believe in God. 2. Even if I did, those scriptures were not written by God, but by mortals.
MrLolsauce69 1 year ago
Gianna, YOU'RE AN ANGEL sent from Heaven. You're a messenger from God and we need to heed the law! God Bless and Keep you safe! I will keep you in my prayers.. Please remember me in yours!
jeepjeeplady 1 year ago
@jeepjeeplady Another jesus fucker to add to the list i see.The time is coming when you people will be left to soil in your filth.You are probly child molesters,theives,liars but i already knew that.Father Satan is God,You would look real good skined.Go suck jesus cock you fucking coward.No one cares about any of you expect your fellow child molesters.Bring it on assholes we've already WON....Come on go up agianst me and see who breaks...all of your bones is what i'll hear hitting the ground.yum
starrocket666 1 year ago
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@starrocket666 - I think you have daddy issues ;(
melyssacali 1 year ago
I love at 3:22 when the guy says, "that's a good point." lol of course it's a good point!
jasso1416 1 year ago
Barack Obama is an absolute monster.
rrrrsssssssa2 1 year ago 5
@rrrrsssssssa2 hahah lol! agree
SSForever777 1 year ago
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A pro-life video worth watching on YouTube is
"Hope for Tomorrow – Hope Booklet"
The video shows the value and dignity of children from around the world.
Embellished2 1 year ago
Who died and made you God squeezi? So because a scentist tells you that a fetus isn't a Human yet (even up till 9 months) you simply believe them? how is that any different from religious people following what their preachers tell them? I am sorry for being rude in my earlier post, it really just upset me that you were laughing over abortion. Since it's happening it should be taken very seriously, saying a child isn't born and therefore not 'alive' doesn't take away from what abortion is
gwyyyyn 1 year ago
@gwyyyyn What scientist said fetuses weren't human? Fetuses are human tissue. So are sperm. So are tumors.
But this isn't the same as being a human being. Being a human being requires sentience. Being a human being requires agency. These, sperm, tumors, and fetuses critically lack.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 when did we decide to become so cold hearted that we don't even allow a nine month old who has been born live? killing babies after failed abortions, how barbaric IS that? when did we decide that the weaker just has to die off? I'm sorry but it literally breaks my heart.
gwyyyyn 1 year ago
@gwyyyyn We don't, that's exactly my point. The antis are making shit up, as they always do. Read my comment.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 Fair point, however, sperm on its own, does not have the opportunity of leading a sentient life, a tumour on its own does not have the opportunity to lead a sentient life but a foetus does. What makes the murder of a human adult life so bad? I say the worst aspect of murdering an adult is robbing them of the opportunity of their future and experiences to come. To me, this is equally a applicable to the unborn.
tgc1601 1 year ago
@tgc1601 No, a fetus on it's own doesn't have the opportunity of living a sentient life. If it did, abortion wouldn't prevent that.
Murdering is wrong because you are killing a sentient being and violating their rights.
There's no such t thing as "the unborn." Calling a fetus that is dishonest because it ignores the differences between fetuses and people. The biggest among these are sentience and parasitism.
You can't murder non-sentient tissue, neither can killing in self-defense be murder.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 mmm I absolutely fail to see the point you are trying to make. Let's forget the self-defence aspect; it has no relevance to the argument (unless you may way wish to clarify how it does). How can you claim a foetus does not have the opportunity to become a sentient being? I was a foetus once and I am a sentient being; had I been aborted I would have lost that opportunity as a foetus to become a sentient being.
tgc1601 1 year ago
@tgc1601 It doesn't on its own, as you said it did. Neither does a sperm. Both have potential even if the odds aren't equal.
I was never a fetus precisely because I am a sentient being. I require sentience to be an I. I was never a fetus for the same reason I was never a sperm, there simply was no me yet.
If your dad had not slept with your mom that particular night, there would likewise never be a you and no opportunity to become a sentient being - just like with abortion.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 No, I said it has the opportunity of becoming a sentient being. Regardless, your argument is based on the, let's say, non-person-hood of the foetus. I find this far too narrow to accept; because you now need to find a way of brooding the criteria of person-hood to include recently born infants or mentally retarded people (otherwise you cannot have a problem with ending the life a new born child).
tgc1601 1 year ago
@tgc1601 Continued: And yes, abortion IS self defense. I have a right to protect my body from violation and harm as well as the right to protect my future.
I don't know why this is so hard to grasp.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 unless you only agree with abortion on the grounds of saving the mother's life, your self defence argument is pretty weak. If I was to end my neighbour's life on the grounds that he was going to disrupt my future, would it be reasonable for me to claim 'self-defence'; if my life was not in danger? I think not
tgc1601 1 year ago
@tgc1601 Even newborn infants and the mentally handicapped have the capacity for sentience.
The right to choose, however, isn't about fetuses, it's about women.
If your neighbor tried to rape you or steal your blood or organs you could defend yourself too with any amount of force necessary. You have the right to defend your body from violation and harm.
Incidentally, ALL pregnancies are a threat to the woman's health and life even if no complications are foreseen
juliewashere88 1 year ago
By that logic a foetus must have the capacity for sentience. Only difference is one is inside the womb, the other is not. Do you think something magical happens when a baby leaves the womb?? Does it suddenly get endowed with conscience or sentience the second it's head pops out? What about premature babies in an incubator??? The holes in your logic are endless.
tgc1601 1 year ago
@tgc1601 That's a strawman fallacy. I never hinted at anywhere that passing through a birth canal is magic. The difference between people and tissue is sentience. Fetuses early enough in gestation to be legal removed do not have the capacity for sentience. That doesn't develop until very late in term.
Of course you'll find holes in "my logic" when you ignore what I actually say and just make shit up I never said at all.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@tgc1601 says: Do you think something magical happens when a baby leaves the womb?
~~~~~~~~ yes, it does, but its not magic, its the law. Thats when we become persons and get the title human being .
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@tgc1601 says" Does it suddenly get endowed with conscience or sentience the second it's head pops out?
~~~~~~~~ No, science &/or biology have no consensus on the issue of abortion.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@tgc1601 says"What about premature babies in an incubator??
~~~~~~~~~ They are born and have all their rights in place.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
“A person's a person, no matter how small.”
ChooseLifeIreland 1 year ago
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@ChooseLifeIreland says: A person's a person, no matter how small.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats ture, but a fetus isnt a person until birth...just ask Dr. Suess.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@ChooseLifeIreland says: a persons a person no matter how small
~~~~~~~~~` true, but a fetus isnt a person until birth. Just ask Dr. Suess.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@ChooseLifeIreland Size has nothing to do with anything. Only ignorant antis unable to contend with the issue honestly use that mindless straw-man.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
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@bandnerd9110 says: ask any biologist, the moment a sperm meets an egg, life is created
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Biology has NO concensus on the issue of abortion. Its about rights of people,the law, the 5th, 9th, 13th, & 14th Amendments,The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, The Supreme Court, social custom and necessity, & Roe v. Wade & NO science. Your comment is moot.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
Wow, she got called on her BS ad even of Faux News of all places.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
and what bs would that be? why do you try to silence,control,mock,condemn,and hate someone who tells the truth and tries to do the right thing?
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 She's not telling the truth.
The truth is that Obama opposed the bill due to dubious language and the possibility of affecting abortion law in Illinois. When the bill was reintroduced to match the federal law, it was approved unanimously. Her ad is bs. She tried to say Obama "supports infanticide," and that is false. That's just some insane hyperbole. The real truth is that he was protecting freedom just as any good legislator would.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 says: She's not telling the truth
~~~~~~~~~~ Shes prolife, what did we expect?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1
She's not pro-life.
I'M pro-life. I'm pro-life in the only way any rational and honest person can be - I'm pro-choice.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 says: She's not pro-life
~~~~~~~~~~~ Gianna is pro choice? Im confused.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 No... I'm pro-choice. Considering how being pro-choice is crucial to protecting women's lives, being pro-choice is pro-life.
If you're not pro-choice, guess what, you're not pro-life.
Gianna is anti-choice. She can dress that up any way she wants, but no anti deserves to be called pro-life.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@juliewashere88 says: but no anti deserves to be called pro-life
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Right, & Im not confused now.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@Hudsucker94 says: why do you try to silence,control,mock,condemn,and hate someone who tells the truth
~~~~~~~~~~ if you had the truth, abortion would be illegal. So, why aren t they working?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
barf
thaduckoff1 1 year ago
Anyone who watches this and still supports pro choice, you truly are an evil,evil person. If I run into you, I will not hesitate to call you out for what you are. I will expose you,harass you,until you stop. I promise that.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94
the evidence does not support the idea fetus have fully developed minds. they are unconcious until birth and dont feel pain or anything. also, do you know how many people DIE of illegal abortions were it's illegal? do you want people throwing unwanted children into dumpters or drowning them? pencil abortions??
greenleaf4958 1 year ago
Well, why doesn't the mother just do the right thing and take responsibility instead of killing the child? The irony is if you were aborted, you wouldn't be here to spew the murder agenda.And yet you don't even want to take that into consideration. Too much for you to handle? Well, if they're illegal, maybe they shouldn't be getting abortions in the first place. And don't feed me that b.s spew people like you tend to do.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: why doesn't the mother just do the right thing and take responsibility instead of killing the child
~~~~~~~~~~ Because its not the right thing to her. When will you comprehend that all the women of the world wont have babies to make YOU happy. LOLOL
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 Your womb pregnancy and childbirth envy is showing. Why dont you find a surrogate to impregnate, have a sex change during the pregnancy, then became his biological mother. That might satisify your preoccupation which is evidence of your feminine pregnancy envy.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@Hudsucker94 says: The irony is if you were aborted, you wouldn't be here to spew the murder agenda
~~~~~~~~~~~ And no one would know we wenrt here, OR could have been here.. so what would it matter? It wold be the same if our mothers never got pregnany with us. And I'll bet you cant understand why your ideas wont work for you. you clearly fall too short in your capacity for principle-level and abstract thinking to debate this matter
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: I will expose you,harass you,until you stop. I promise that
~~~~~~~~ There it is!! The violent mentality of the prolifer. is your gun ready for the abortion doctor? Your bomb ready for the clinic? Your fear tactics dont work buddy! Youre a whimp who cant fight this words.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
And here we have yet another example of the emasculating feminazi who foolishly and wrongfully assumes anyone who disagrees with her is some whacko ready to kill. Wow. Reactionary much? Prolifers aren't the only ones who are violent, not that I think it's right, but I mean, you people are standing up for the "rights" to kill someone. Who's really the violent one here? Why do you so adamantly defend the ability for someone to kill another person? Abortion is murder, no matter what way the
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: abortion is murder
~~~~~~~~~~ Of course it is, honest Abe!! Thats why 50 million women are in prison for the crime of murder. I LOVE PROLIFE LIARS.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: you people are standig up for rights to kill someone
~~~~~~~~~~~~ PROLIFE LIAR. A fetus isnt a someone, insinuating a person. Intelligent people would rather be hurt by honesty than pleased by your lies ... Do you have any truths hud? Do you have ANYhting helpful? Anything honest, legal, rational, intelligent? You always spit into the wind and get hit int he face.. To bad you dont have any pride in yourslef.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: abortion is murder
~~~~~~~~~~~ Youre a propaganda machines, cultivating hatred of abortion with deciet & lies. You foster public indifference as Hitler did w/ the Jews......and because of that.... abortion will never be illegal
Hiel HItler!!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
feminazis and liberal media propagandists spin it. And it's blood money as well. Yet you are the ones who so hypocritically protest the wars and the death penalties,which both I am opposed too btw. You think you're so strong and brave for standing up for murder. But in reality, you are just an empty,hollow coward trying to deny reality.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says murder
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Its so sad you have to lie. Did you learn that as a child.... that if you tell the truth you will be in real trouble, and the best way to save yourself is to never be honest and you wont get hurt? Youre a coward of the worst kind. Intelligent people would rather be hurt by honesty than pleased by your lies
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: hypocritically protest the wars and the death penalties
~~~~~~~ Whats hypocritical about wanting to protect those who have the right to be protected, and not choosing to protect an entity that dosent exsist in the realm of EVERYhting that denotes our humanbeingness? You would get as much attention if you were obsessed with space aliens, that no one knows do, or ever will exsist. Thats defined as not being comprehensible in terms of normal mental processes
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: I will expose you,harass you,until you stop
~~~~~~~~~ Strong women wont stop anything they choose to do just because of a pissed of cronie. Abortion will continue and we will get a good laugh out of you! LOL
Sueezee1 1 year ago
No,one day,hopefully in our lifetimes, it will end/be outlawed.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says; one day it will end
~~~~~~ When you wish upon a star makes no difference who you are~~~~~~
(smile)
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ By the way, I copied and saved your threatening comment. You'll see it in my book.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
Waitaminute. What book? I don't want my name and words being unauthorizedly used, unless there is some profit in it for me!
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 dont want my name used
~~~~~~~~~~~~ No names will be used..... and with the redundent, repetative prolife comments, no one will be able to prove their words from anyone elses..
Sueezee1 1 year ago
What's this book gonna be titled? I'll keep my eyes open for it, and well, we'll see what happens. If anything, you babykillers are the reptitive ones. You're cowards who won't admit you are wrong.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: book title
~~~~~~~~ Dont know
Sueezee1 1 year ago
Well, when you have a title, tell me, I'll watch for it. See what kind of new lies and bs you make up, or what old ones you puke up,re-use,and retwist.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: See what kind of new lies and bs you make up
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LOL, make-up? These will be quotes, and provable if nesessary (I keep good records), and They will ALL be on YT for the world to see.....proof positive of the insane, irrational, selfish, controlling, dishonest and decietful ideas of pro - birthers. The world HAS to see this!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: when you have a title, tell me, I'll watch for it
~~~~~~~~~ Most definately! Everyone on YT will know it.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@Hudsucker94 says: You're cowards who won't admit you are wrong.
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LOLOl, ok, watch this!! "I'm wrong". Yet, abortion is still going on....still legal...and still needed. Seems anyones opinion of right and/or wrong means squat. Got anything that could work for you?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: the baby killer are repitative
~~~~~~~~~~~ yes, but its HONEST repetitiveness that worked to make aboriton legal. Yours are lies which do absolutely NOTHING
Sueezee1 1 year ago
I'm not a liar, you're the liar. You won't call abortion what it really is, murder. You dance around it and try to redefine it instead of saying the truth. What have I lied about? No don't answer that. I don't need to hear anymore lies and manipulations from you.
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 says: I'm not a liar, you're the liar. You won't call abortion what it really is, murder
~~~~~~~~~~~ That could be a great title for the section on prolifes calling aboriton murder ( my information base on THAT alone, is neverending) . As a matter of fact, its perfection. Lying and demanding you arent. The proverbial prolife rubble. THAT is what this will be all about.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 Actually, YOU'RE the one trying to redefine murder. Go look the word up in a dictionary some time and try again.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
Not clever not funny,FAIL!
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
@Hudsucker94 Was that a reference to anything specific or do you just have turrets?
juliewashere88 1 year ago
Yeah. It was a reference to you and you're failure of an attempt to attack me,and you're pitiful attempt at wittiness. You are an awful human being, and if it were up to me, I'd put you all in jail for crimes against humanity. Now you are going insult those with special needs? Is there any low people like you won't sink too?
Hudsucker94 1 year ago
Wow that squeezy person is clearly the biggest idiot I've ever seen. I know you've probably had about 5 million abortions (although how you got a man to sleep with u is beyond me) but babies should have rights, and when you're laughing about their lack thereof then you don't deserve to even talk. Run along home now.
gwyyyyn 1 year ago
@gwyyyyn says: I know you've probably had about 5 million abortions
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LMFAO..I always ejoy the intelligent, deep comments of the prolifers. Keep em comin!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@gwyyyyn says run along home now
~~~~~~~~~~ Oh pelase, dont be so afraid fo the truth that you want to make me leave...hahahah!
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