Stockhausen: "Gesang der Junglinge" Conclusion

[MegaWunderbar]

IS IT SUNNLEIF THAT HAS WRITTEN THIS SONG!? :O

[jonesrebel]

This is what dial up should have sounded like.

[ageliki36]

this piece is monumental, it could also be the soundtrack of our dystopian future

[BoyArgentina]

"Und!"- Es hört sich sehr gut an.

[allbluesable]

because of my classical music training i just couldn't get past the notion of this brilliant collage called the conclusion reminded me a lot of , what my music theory 101 teacher( Dr. Moonien Albrecht) bless her heart, tried to get across to me as a recap??????????? pitulation

[dieterammann4]

This piece is interesting from a music-historical point of view. And it seems to activate highly engaged discussions still today....

But of course, the development of contemporary composed music shows a big plurality of aesthetic solutions....

[DreamCrew2007]

wirklich das einzige stück was ich abgrundtief hasse. Erinnert mich immer wieder an Krieg. Stockhausen ist klasse! Mein Kompositionslehrer hatte schwört immer auf "Stockhausen". Aber das geht echt gar nicht. Des ist so als ob man nem Kind mit 13 ne Waffe geben würde sry, Komposition an sich ist natürlich gut durchdacht und Stockhausenmäßig, die "Stimmung"/"Atmosphäre" schreklich.

[iced4life3]

Hold on!........Its speaking to me....

[chucku00]

I think Vernon Reid knows Stockhausen. Listen the intro of living Colour's "Information Overload"...

[steveasat2]

If I ever go on a killing spree, I'm gonna make sure the only music they find on my iPod is THIS over and over again. That'll kink up its rank on Amazon a bit.

[TheRiteOfWinter]

@steveasat2 heh, what if you doom us? Hitler almost doomed every Nietzschenan...

[mrake1000]

Wow this was done way before sampling and computers.

This is a little masterpiece in it own,

[mordi22]

This guy must have feasted on shrooms before making this shit

[kalsikum]

Reminds me of Aphex Twin.

[TheJevonjames]

@kalsikum which is strange since neither liked each others music.

[jarblewarble]

@kalsikum It reminds me of "Little Funny Man."

[jarblewarble]

@jarblewarble maybe this is what inspired it.

[kalsikum]

What a masterpiece...

[pcpablo7]

praise!

[soccerfreak4eva]

is this atonality?

[FredericChopinThe2nd]

@soccerfreak4eva it's actually total serialism, i.e., every element of the music (pitch, register, duration, dynamic, etc.) is serialized. so it's more accurately described as post-tonal, perhaps

[Zeptis1337]

@soccerfreak4eva might want to listen to Merzbow for atonality: there's a lot of tonality here, just not a lot of chord structure.

[soccerfreak4eva]

is this atonality?

[sweeney665]

to all that say they "enjoy" this piece of music or this composer for that matter i say this.....JUST STOP BEING PRETENTIOUS PRICKS.....i know you listen to Mozart and Beethoven when no ones watching....it may be interesting from a mathematicians point of view but this is neither "enjoyable" nor it classifies as music.go ahead,molest the downward thumb next to me.

[MjoEm32]

@sweeney665 Indeed - because you deserve it. I listen to Beethoven all the time: why would I deny it? But it doesn't stop me enjoying this. Your comment is very stupid. Your definition of music is what precisely? You know whether I'm enjoying it or not HOW precisely?

[sweeney665]

@MjoEm32 naah it isnt stupid, it is you who is narrow minded and you cant say that you find this music JUST interesting which it really might be if you see it from a scientists point of view. for all i know you might be masturbating to this song, and to flag my comment is just another evidence of you being narrow minded. let the world see what an arrogant prick i am.you know the line between innovation and pointless experimenting(aka stupid risks, aka stupidity) is very VERY thin.

[Paula81280]

Please, I would liko to know what number of page of the facsimil is the score that appears in the video at 1'24'' (komplex IV) and the one of the 1'58'' (page F2, it is a vocal page or only instrumental page?). Thank you!!

[bonesstorage]

a bit edgy isnt it

[DerangedRanger1]

You cannot judge one's intelligence from musical tastes. Musical taste subjective, people tend to use music for different reasons and this will affect their taste. Furthermore, the criteria for what is considered "intelligence" is also subjectively determined. You might, for example, look into Howard Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences. That being said, I like Stockhausen, but I don;t think it makes me any smarter (or dumber) than people who like Aphex Twin - I like him too.

[hallabalooza]

I'm pretty sure I'm cursed now.

[MrNoelJMIS]

@hallabalooza

I laughed so hard at this comment. LOL

By the way- listen to this on headphones if you want a serious trip...

[adam5486]

They should play this on every radio station in the world FOREVER! U2-Metallica-Juanes-Rammstein are CRAP compared to this!!! >:D

[carbonC0RE]

@adam5486

And THIS is crap compared to Aphex Twin ^_^

Well, not really crap, but I think afx is definitely more interesting.

[spectralmusic]

@carbonC0RE Only if you grow a beak and then peck your own brain out.

[MusicaRicercata]

@carbonC0RE It also appears that you're more retarded as well.

[carbonC0RE]

@MusicaRicercata Because one's intelligence can easily be judged by one's musical tastes. Clearly, you have a point. I do apologize.

[MusicaRicercata]

@carbonC0RE you gay bro

[superstition2]

@MusicaRicercata I am gay, and I don't appreciate your asinine comment.

[MusicaRicercata]

@superstition2 owned

[superstition2]

@MusicaRicercata Your comment makes no sense.

[DarkZekeX]

@superstition2 lol he's an idiot :3 I wouldn't pay him any attention.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@adam5486, on the contrary, this piece makes even Metallica look dignified, rarified and beautiful. I'm glad Stockhausen is dead. He represents the worst ideological adherence to musical ugliness, pseudo-intellectual elitism, and unabashed narcissism that has largely characterized new classical music since the start of the 20th century.

But things are getting better. People are moving away from this garbage. Soon, it will all be forgotten, like a bad dream.

[musoderelict]

@KhagarBalugrak May I post this as my status on Facebook?

[musoderelict]

@KhagarBalugrak I agree with you when it comes to Stockhausen but there is plenty of 20th Century Classical music that you cannot speak for here - what you are saying is greatly over-generalized.

There is a big gap between true, new artistic concepts and gimmicks.

[Fremglerk]

@KhagarBalugrak You should come clean about your rather right-wing background and admit that your real problem with Stockhausen goes back to a grossly misreported statement he made about 9/11 a decade ago (and BTW: I was thirty feet away from the second tower when it fell; I stayed to help; KS hasn't offended my sense of patriotism). You post videos about feminists being Marxist persecutors of their own sex, so it seems your problem's with Stockhausen's politics and not his music.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@Fremglerk, I'm the furthest thing from right-wing. I oppose America's bloody, murderous wars. I also oppose the war against beauty currently underway in classical music, a war that has vomited up thousands of "composers" like Stockhausen that write destructive, ugly garbage. Did you know atonal music kills plants, and harms living things? Did you know this has been proven via scientific experiments?

There's nothing liberal about writing music that harms the listener. That's fascistic.

[Fremglerk]

@KhagarBalugrak: If you're concerned about music that harms creatures and human hearing, your attentions might best be turned to techno, which regularly gave birds heart attacks during post-wall Love Parades. Still, I think that would be a mistake because all of these people -- techno fans, composers like Stockhausen -- are pursuing their own soundworld of beauty. For Stockhausen, beauty is vitality, which is inherently nonrepetitive. His musical language derives . . .

[Fremglerk]

. . . from Wagner's principle of constant modulation through dodecaphonic music (that principle taken to its logical extreme) to integral serialism (the beginnings of which are in Webern's music). Stockhausen's music is all about his concept of non-repetition as vitality: He hates techno as much as you hate his music. I saw that you like Corelli and Perotin; so do I. But I also love Webern and Stockhausen. To insist their music is physiologically harmful seems "fascistic" as well.

[muttushiama]

@KhagarBalugrak , hahahahahahahahaha....the experiment you are speaking about are only in your

small brain. post the paper of those studies and do not generalise like you are doing. Probably you do not even

know the meaning of tonal and atonal. Ignorance at it's highest level !!

[fireasdf1]

@muttushiama Agreed, man, that guy looks like a conspiracy theorist talking, making up stuff using words like liberal or fascistic, to look more realistic.

[komputaman]

i always where did frank zappa learn this style

[arnonono1]

I have to do a work on that song but I'm scare of it...

[FromOceans2112]

intrestring, not music in the traditional sence, but  a wonderfully chaotic (sounding at lest, i know the actual composition of this kind of music is very precise and organized) sound scape ^^. i find it rather enjoyable actully. more like Rockhausen :P

[afenerich]

Please, do you know where I can find the Universal's audioscore from gesang (intead, of course, in the stockhausen verlag)?

[MrRaph87]

un vrai bonheur de pouvoir réentendre cette partition ... certaines sections sont tout simplement "magiques" !!

merci à "NewMusicXX" d'être pédagogique (juste ce qu'il faut !!) ... et de diffuser des oeuvres majeures du XXe siècle.

(moment de grâce en conclusion, à partir de 2'20 ...)

[rolandjosef]

danke!