Automatic vs Semi-Automatic vs Manual - Part II

[SneerfulWizard]

He can't drive the fucking PDK, so no shit its slower.

[Don17p]

the only thing he proved was that he cant drive an auto.......

[koswus1]

I didn't think this video was being objective with the race.  How did they expect it to be fair when the guy repeatedly states he can't shift the semi auto correctly and gets them confused, its like putting a drive that drives auto in a manual and saying an automatic wins cause the manual driver couldn't shift the car correctly.

About connecting with the car, i get it but if a feature became to inconvenient no one would want it (i.e. hand cranking the engine to start it up).

[frankk323]

manual all the way

[goatmonkey2112]

This really only proves that Porsche's PDK is not as good on that particular track. There are many other videos that show just the opposite in different cars on different tracks. For example, the 370z and VW GTI are faster with automatics. Turbocharged cars seem to benefit more because you don't lose the boost as much while changing gears. Over time it is inevitable that DSG/PDK type transmissions will win all around once they are developed more.

[marshknute]

Flappy paddle gearboxes are the worst thing to happen to road cars. They were developed for racing, where quick gear changes make all the difference. Unfortunately, incompetent fools want to emulate racing drivers when they drive to the post office, so they ruin a perfectly good driver's car with a flappy paddle gearbox. The satisfaction of rowing through the gears yourself makes up for the 0.4 seconds you lose in each gear change.

[donman92]

His face @ 0:19 Derp Face :D

[XDarkR3aperX]

have fun driving manual in traffic *laughs*

[weedmastersr]

@XDarkR3aperX what's the big deal ? I've learned to drive in a manual car in a crowded city !

[XDarkR3aperX]

@weedmastersr It's easier to brake than just change gear - clutch..

[weedmastersr]

@XDarkR3aperX that's true but for me its much more fun to drive a manual even in heavy traffic !

[XDarkR3aperX]

@weedmastersr :)

[CanimCursor]

BS Test... The driver went in with some serious bias, and he doesn't know how to drive a PDK. This is one of the worst driving experiences tests I have ever seen. Does not even correctly conclude which one is faster.

[yammieR12003]

Call me a luddite, but I dont care if the PDK is faster or not - I just prefer the feel of an H-pattern manual gear box and driver operated clutch.

[venuztaurus6ix]

you can tell the people that never experience a hi powered semi auto car... lol evo tech 2006 m6 pushing 450plus torque..700plus hp..when u have the power to back up the smg..gearbox or manuel doesnt matter

[venuztaurus6ix]

and drive kuz people choose to drive semi or automatics doesnt mean they dont know how to drive...thatas the most ignorant statement ive ever read in my life...what makes a great driver?....oh if you drive a maneul your considered a great driver...lol i expect that from a gieco caveman but not your fault..iguess f1 racers are terrible drivers lol

[venuztaurus6ix]

and i love the m5 and m6 smg the dual shifting is hella quick and responsive...and its fun...i can tex while driving drink coffee while driving.talk on the phone in heavy traffic while driving...hold hands with my girl after the movie and dinner while driving.well rounded vehicle...but sadly i own a c6 corvette...sigh wish i would of choosen the m5

[Lemon0Tart]

@venuztaurus6ix texting and driving, you sir are a fuckwit.

[venuztaurus6ix]

@Lemon0Tart shhhhh...stay quiet..i see it like this..if you can drive manuel and be multi task..then people like me can drive a smg and tex at the same time. i dont see no different.not everyone can tex and drive..but of course heavy traffic i dont even think about texting..just on clear road..but yes u are a fuck cunt sir

[venuztaurus6ix]

i hate when people tries to force whats better for others...point blank...buy what you like...leave ur silly comment like if it aint a stick ur a fag...if you like to stroke the stick like a fag...so be it buy a manuel lol..if u like auto so be it..theres gadgets and technology to out due a maneul..if u like smg dual clutch even better ...best of both worlds...so to all u manuels...eat a dick..and yes i drove manuels and autos and smg...due to traffics i rather drive a dual clutch

[Dimitri0809]

@water0x00

Dude.. stop making idiotic comments.. It doesn't matter that tranny you drive because it is all based on opinion. If people want to drive twn clutch then let them, quite frankly there are a lot of people that don't really care about manuel tranny because they don't like the feel of them again tell someone who cares..

[Dimitri0809]

I really don't care because it's really based on what you like and what your preferences are, I really like Twin clutch tranny because I can never be bothered to learn a manuel but Twin clutch tranny are really easy to use and easy to pick up on and you learn it instantly which is really nice.

[xsilentsatx]

the guy didn't know how to change gears effectively in the pdk. human error played a major role in this test...

[xavcrack]

Manual gearbox :DDDD

[massdestruction97]

Semi-automatics are the best, they are used in F1 and are the fastest, easiest and most precise.

[21Rushisaband12]

@massdestruction97 easiest means most boring, and less control, stick shift is so much better, if your gonna get semi-automatics to feign being a good driver just get an automatic

[XxENovaxX]

@massdestruction97 Technically yes, but wouldn't you want something with feedback? Something which bites? Manual is much more fun in my opinion.

[massdestruction97]

@XxENovaxX Of course, it depends whether you have got used to it. Semi is not that widely distributed, but manages to combine both feel and facility. If you ask me, semi>manu>auto

[crzygutrsnobrdr]

tip-tronic/pdk/dsg is faster than a manual. But there is nothing like getting a car for the first couple times and getting a conection with it with a stick

[FukYurAss]

The pdk was slower due to driver error. Manuals are more fun but pdk is definetly faster.

[nissan7201985]

anyone who thinks auto sucks go look at ferrari fxx

[nissan7201985]

automatics far outperform manuals now. dual sequentials are faster. and soon ferrari will have triple sequential. its a sad truth. i was very dissapointed when i had to accept this truth.

[seri267]

Dual clutch is faster without a doubt.. this guy doesn't know how to use it... still Manuel all the way for life. these days it's a question of do you want fun or speed. and i'm pretty sure heal and toe is harder than figuring out how to work a dual clutch system.

[Luciferminusone]

And it doesn't matter what speed these distractions occur as speed does not kill. It's only when you look away from the road you get killed.

I applaud those who CAN shift gears without looking away from the road for even a second! but don't let pride overcome you or you will pay the hard way. :)

[noxis93]

@Luciferminusone Just a heads up: looking at the gearbox while driving makes you fail the driving exam in Croatia. In fact, looking at the gearbox is only a matter of a few driving lessons, a habit you tend to loose very fast. A good driver doesn't even think of the gear he's in. A good driver FEELS the car and changes gear accordingly to the engine.

[Luciferminusone]

Seems to me that manual transmissons would lead into front end collisions more due to having to be distracted by figuring out which gear you need to shift in.

The more distractions the more likely you will get wrecked and cars are complicated as it is.

[psychoticflow1]

@Luciferminusone if you really need to look away constantly to "figure out what gear you're in" then you really can't drive stick shift. Also, the ease of automatics would and does cause people to text \ talk and drive more, and as we all know that leads to way more accidents than split second "figuring out which gear you need to shift in."

[v6greenfbird95]

@Luciferminusone regular manual is better because the driver is paying more attention to driving the car and gives you more control vs a automatic where for one requires less attention and you are at the whim of a computer which may not know what you are thinking. I had a auto trans am, my wife recked it because the auto transmission shifted at the wrong time while changing lanes on the interstate she's lucky to be alive. Manual that would not have happend

[nissan7201985]

@v6greenfbird95 ok your comparing a single sequential 5 speed at best cheap american auto to a foreign tuned dual sequential six speed auto. if it really was a bad shift that caused your wife to wreck then you should be happy to see dual sequintials becoming more popular because that would have never happened

[nissan7201985]

@Luciferminusone thats a terribly incorrect statement. i drove a manual for three years and text and drove just as much. shifting takes a split second of your attention and you sould never have to look to see the gear if you do then you shouldnt be driving a manual or automatic at all.

[heartlessvietboy]

Stop Lights and stop signs is one of the reason why stopping and accelerating with an Automatic vehicle feels much less tiring. Traffic Also. Even professionals after years and years of driving still shut down their engine from poor timing.

[v6greenfbird95]

@heartlessvietboy i drive a manual daily on one of the worst roads in florida, i4 in orlando its seccond nature. Safer because I have control over the car not hoping the computer changes to the appropriate gear.

[heartlessvietboy]

I know what you're trying to say, I can relate because I was once in your world. I'm in the realm of natural.

[krazyA916]

the guy doesnt even know how too use semi auto. so honestly if any viewer bases

there knowledge on this video than they are very ignorant. this "test" is very ill-advised its stupid and should be removed so that stupid people dont go out and buy a manual car because they think its faster...its the same thing as semi auto in speed wise just semi auto is alot more easy and more comfortable. so you do the math. whats better?

[nissan7201985]

@krazyA916 ha thank od someone knows autos are genuinly faster. that guy was a terrible driver

[xboxice2005]

because your not using it properly. 

[ZR1Terror]

I finally bought a manual sports car after driving an automatic sports car for 10 years. I love it.

[alanvalentinus]

@ZR1Terror the term automatic sports car is oxymorronic.

[hasher22]

Thats an inacurate test... he even said it he doesnt like it, he is not used to it... so he is still a noob at driving the semi-auto.

Why doesnt he drive manual and someone else who can drive a semi-auto drives the car. I bet the outcome will be different.

[MistaX8]

@hasher22

But then that test wouldn't work either, because now you'd have two drivers who's skill level would vary slightly. You'd need a driver who is good with both.

[PIMPL0RD1]

cos he dosnt know how to drive it

[EngNaruSuks]

I don't even have my license yet, but I know I want a manual.

[AntDX316]

It's because the SMG gearbox shifts way faster than the Clutch Manual gearbox. The time it takes to shift with a Clutch Manual give you the ability to control the engine braking, it's delay, and clutch force applied. With SMG there is none of those extra abilities. It shifts and grips instantaniously. I think those extra abilities in Clutch Manual, when used properly, allows the driver to take corners steadier with less laps. The learning curve is faster but with more laps SMG would out perform.

[mastertracuer]

I hate porches.

[bukakee1]

I hate people who dont know how to drive manual, drive a paddle shift sports car and claim they "know how to drive"

[mastertracuer]

@bukakee1 you sir are a twat. i never had the chance to learn manual. think i like that?

[heartlessvietboy]

I am speaking because I want to let you guys know how Relaxing and Fresh Air it Feels to be Driving an Automatic after you've driven a Stick Shift for the rest of your life because somebody sold it to the Millions as something Masculine and Cool to drive. From my experience, It's tiring and old technology.

[alernest]

@heartlessvietboy

Speaking strictly from a personal point of view: It doesn't stress me AT ALL to drive manual, I don't think or plan while shifting, it's completely instinctive. It is moreover much more relaxing and especially GRATIFYING, REWARDING to merge sensorially with the machine and be in relaxed synergy with the machine, not thinking, with the machine as an extension of your organism, controling every single function of the entity.

I am sorry that you cannot drive/enjoy manual.

[heartlessvietboy]

Once in a while you enjoy stick shift driving. But that's just choice. Doing what you have to do then going back to shifting then back to doing what youre doing somehow is quite cool. On a daily commute its a hassle. I don't know if there are people who can relate to the feeling of how relaxing it feels to drive an automatic after driving a stick-shift for some time. I've converted to automatic after using my own mind. Don't let people influence you.

[nissan7201985]

@alernest its very true that it feels amazing bu its a proven fact that manuals are now better than automatics its sad i kno but true

[XDarkR3aperX]

@alernest some cars are cool in manual .. like sports - classics.. but everyday driving i prefer automatic..

[jipi0001]

launching from 0 is the hardest part but seriously, shifting from gear to gear is just pulling of pushing the lever. a lil kick on the clutch pedal at the same time and youre on a different gear. especially 1-2, 3-4 changes are very fast. it all becomes instinctive with a short period of driving.

some excuses to say manuals are not good make no sense. unless youre very weak or got no leg, operating the clutch pedal in traffic doesnt take much efforts. people who say that never experienced it.

[phillyfan0000]

@hamemax what he is trying to get at is that the buttons are counter intuitive where as the paddles arent. i had the same problem with my 135i. there is only one paddle and you push it to upshift and pull it to downshift. it just feels really weird.

[quatroportte]

so let me get this straight,he hates auto,loves manual,doesnt know how to shfit on PDK and he gets a slower time???? WHAT A SURPRISE...not.

Interesting how car and driver got 0-60 in 2.7sec with pdk turbo and thios guy cant even drive it.

[1337gam3r07]

The only excuse to driving an automatic should be if you have a bum leg.

[quatroportte]

@1337gam3r07

the only reason u want a manual is cause u dont have enough money to buy auto

[1337gam3r07]

@quatroportte Well, I can assure you money is no issue there. But why would I pay money to downgrade my car? How about while I'm at it, work on my car for a few hours and lose a couple horse power?

[quatroportte]

@1337gam3r07

Fact of the matter is that most of us will never be able to shift as efficient or as fast as these guys on a manula,but we can always shift perfectly every time in a automatic.

I drive a 900cc engine fiat seicento and i have to shift 3 times to hit 60kmh,

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CAR

ALLdiesel engines have a 4000rpm limit,so u shift basically every 2 seconds.

Normal cars are not R8s or Porsches.

Manual sucks in normal cars,and in extremely powefull cars, but in sports cars,they are OK

[xixas15]

@quatroportte manual sucks? seriously take the train, you dont belong near any car. even if it is a fiat 600

[quatroportte]

@xixas15

you obviously havent driven a high powered automatic car.

I own 5 different manual cars,a 318i,CR-V,2x Corolla,fiat 600 all manual...just one automatic car,mazda MPV

And may i say,manual is overated and pointless.Manual sucks in normal cars! (read what i say before you coment)

Manual is nice in more powerful cars ,ex.porsche,lamborghini.

[conorJones]

@quatroportte Manual transmissions are generally regarded as more efficient, in terms of gas mileage, and reliability. There's less for a car's computer to think about when you have a manual transmission, because you're the one doing the work! I've driven a BMW 330i that was an automatic. It was underwhelming. However, when I drove a friend's audi TT that was a manual, it was so much more engaging and fun. It comes down to personal preference. Also, why do you need 6 cars?

[poomzeed]

@quatroportte thx for your good suggestion because i was really confused which one between manual and auto is better when you drive a powerful car

[jipi0001]

@poomzeed actually a normal economy car like a corolla is much better with a manual transmission. do you really think this guy would own 5 manuals and find them pointless? anyway good for him. the automatic transmisions in entry level cars have a weird clutch system that reduces power to the wheels. automatic variants also often have a lower bhp engine for some reason. automatic tranny cost more to maintain and fix. just learn to drive a stick, youll save money and itll be fun.

[qutip14]

1:55  thats what she said ahaha!

[jemp12]

the benefit manual that has great acceleration and great fuel economy, but if you do not pay a lot for gas like that I recommend buying a bike is the same rule of automatic driving, the only thing that changes is the style and hand movement and the extra foot. sorry i use google.

[jimmyrx8]

i hate the automatic car

clutch is for real drive and for real driver

[GoWxAddict781]

omg half a sec? who gives

[LancerMRWong]

AT sucks !

[wootness3000]

These guys are tools. Just because he can't operate the gearbox properly doesn't mean it isn't as fast/faster. It's a well known fact that DSG transmissions shift faster than any human can.

[Konformation07]

@wootness3000 but you will look like an idiot driving it

[wootness3000]

@Konformation07 Doesn't make it slower.

[Konformation07]

@wootness3000 never said it did

[belgvr]

ha, it was his first time driving that kind of transmission... that's better than manual... he got confused...

[highway955]

obvioulsy the dude was biased from the get-go, you could hear it in his voice. he didnt even give the buttons a chance. typical dude with a stick car thinking he's the shit.

[rania3830]

i live in the city and there is a lot of traffic. so i can't be bothered with driving a manual. automatic for me. maybe if i lived in the country side i would enjoy a manual.

[SalvadoreanKOV]

@rania3830 Thats what im trying to figure out many of these people might live in the country side where there is room, and space for manual but for a city person theres many stops, hills, and traffic. !and thats not easy

[scottland100]

i prefer manual 100%

[redeyes99]

Touch to shift! lol.

[occckid123]

lol he was messing up with the buttons lol

[eddiechairez]

AHAHA FAG 0:18

[brianrulesman]

manual is better then auto in every way.. except on rush hour traffic.. such a bitch to drive

[roger767]

not a real test, its obvious the driver wasn't as well know with the buttons of the automatic vs the clutch.

[DjIbeo]

@roger767 very good point, this guys a horrible shifter lmfao. personally, i believe they're equivalent. though shift will always feel better no matter what:)

[alernest]

Yes, thanks for the argumented opinions but let us please refrain from saying things that offend, especially if there is no reason to do so.

If not, as I said before, I'm forced to remove your entries, ok?

Thanks...

[ahmedkibaba]

manual is betterrrr than anything else.. but then again.. i always mess up when i drive one

[Guitarnoob99]

whel again , it depends where are you going to use the car ...if its a city with lots of traffic jams than manual will be frustrating so full automatic is better ... if its a race track or a vilage with open roads probably manual would be better

and for racing hmm if i was a pro i would like manual but since im not i would rather have semi automatic gear box (steptronic)