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  • I agree: why can't we abort pro-lifers?

  • Listen to this Pro Life Song. Type in "Unborn Angels" into youtube search engine.

  • @321Pots thanks for telling us, really good song

  • if abortion is bad then jerking off and killing sperm cells is bad. Its the persons choice.

  • if only we could abort anti-abortion people in advance.

  • If ur so pro life what am i? huh

  • fur is murder

  • Who am I to decide if she has made the correct decision to have the abortion, I don’t even have a HALO, nor does any other human being on this planet, and the

    CHOICE should be up to the woman, Not a bunch of politicians or a pack of bible toting half-wits.

    You stupid anti-abortion people ought to be hung from the nearest tree..

  • @ZJbull you clearly know nothing about this issue you half wit. go back to your cave.

  • its not about how people look its about people in increadble pain who's life is a living hell you jakass, these people wan't to end their lifes them selves. Why don't you go kill some muslims

  • 1 name....George Carlin

  • alright, so abortion is murder. since when have people been against murder? hello! the roman empire, the HOLY crusades, the colonization of AMERICA, the priveleage to sell crack to school children. come on folks, you don't really have anything against murder.

  • So NOW you want government in the lives of private CITIZEN... seems to me republican, or christian speak with fork tongue

  • LOL

  • Jesus was not a Liberal neither is his Father... Where is Jesus? I am looking for some help. I have been through an awakening of profound intensity and meaning. I speak the truth and can prove what I will expose. If you please, see the information coming out at MercyCal.com. Search videos at mercycal here at YouTube. It is truthful and I can prove it. I am bound only to the truth but can seek advice from the faithful. Peace to all souls.

  • the problem is is that the blacks are preventing the christians from having babies by allowing abortion, only jesus has the right to judge, judge ye not they neighbor lest they be judged (romans 34:70) God loves all of us even those with the homosexual agenda or the blacks... The babies have rights whether or not the black liberal homosexuals want you to believe it or not!!! Women don't have the right to chose they have the right to murdor... I don't think so and neither does the trinity (jes

  • @froggermanyo says:he problem is is that the blacks are preventing the christians from having babies by allowing abortion,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    LOL, thats going in my book of ignorant prolife comments

  • how the fuck can you want every baby ever possible to enter this world? are we not terribly over populated already? how the fuck can this planet sustain every possible unaborted child?!

  • @raynard88666, Now you're telling people not to have kids? Wow you definetly proved you're racist, chavinistic, angry, and psychotic

  • @raynard88666 If u look at statistics, we dont really have an overpopulation. its mostly a lie. God has a plan, and we cannt just try to predict the future like "OMG OVERPOPULATION!!" God doesnt make mistakes, humans do. Im praying for you.

  • Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

  • Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”

  • Abortion saves lives

    Howard Stern

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  • Wonderful Video and very well made. I have great compassion for Terri Schiavo. It makes me sick to think that we continue to kill people and say it's a right that we have given to ourselves because of an inconvenience.

  • We kill people all the time. Whats the difference with abortion? We can kill a grown person, but nonono we can't kill a baby. NEWSFLASH: It is a woman's body. her body. no one should be able to tell her what to do with her body. that's taking away woman's rights. I'm not gonna have a christian telling me I cant have an abortion because its ungodly and I'm going to hell for it. my body, my decision. AND THAT'S THE FUCKING AMERICAN WAY.

  • @MsMailbawx The difference is, when we murder older people, its not legal. its considered to be so bad and so different from abortion. the difference is that abortion IS legal. and its considered a "choice". Our country has convinced some people that fetus' are not humans. FETUS MEANS SMALL PERSON.

    God made us equal, no matter if we are living in a house, apartment, cardboard box, or the womb. Life's sacred.

  • @glitzy48 But god killed fetuses all the time. You think no woman was pregnant when he flooded the world and killed 99% of the population? What chance did those fetuses have?

  • @go8smosh Why are you judging GOD? Have you any idea the difference between the almighty GOD, and some poor sinner!  WE ARE ALL SINNERS! God has a reason for EVERYTHING that goes on in the world!

  • @AngaPanga8888 I'm asking what the difference is. If it is truly so terrible, why does god do it constantly?

  • @MsMailbawx No its a babies body, and just because it is attached to the mother does not mean we can assume its part of the mother. Also, as americans we should have the right to live. No where in the constitution does it give us the right to kill, but it does give us the right to live.

  • @MsMailbawx What the heck? Are you saying...that because the baby is inside it's mother, it is not a living form on it's own? it has it's own DNA it is a living being, that is seperate from the mother. The mother is carrying her child, her child is NOT her! Her child is a living being who HAS VALUES AND RIGHTS!

    It's not ok to kill, or murder, in whatever case!

  • @AngaPanga8888 says: Her child is a living being who HAS VALUES AND RIGHTS!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~ if a fetus had rights, abortion wold be illegal. Why do you lie?

  • @AngaPanga8888 says: t's not ok to kill, or murder

    ~~~~~~~ Youre right and arent we glad abortion isnt murder? (smile)

  • Abortion is empowerment for women. It allows women to take control of their own futures.

  • Are you kidding? Abortion is enslavement for women. It allows planned parenthood to take control of their wallets.

  • Buy providing cheap, safe abortions that will not lead you to have an unwanted child that may cost you $400 000 to raise properly? Abortion is just empowerment for women, and I don't think anyone has the right to make the choice for a woman, let alone male politicians with a christian agenda.

  • You don't have to keep the child. There's this thing called adoption. You can give the kid to someone else who is more than happy to raise it as their own if you don't want to take care of it. Abortion is empowerment for women in the same way that being the DC sniper was empowerment for John Allen Muhammad. So, why is it that Muhammad was sentenced to death for killing 10 people, yet it took a renegade vigilante to bring justice to tiller the baby killer for killing 60,000 people?

  • the DC sniper killed people. the abortion doctor cleaned tiny specks out of vaginas. hardly comparable. think of it this way, because the DC sniper's mother DIDN'T have an abortion, she is indirectly responsible for killing 10 people. i don't think you can judge people who get abortions until you're pregnant with no long term prospects for raising a good home environment.

  • So are little people worth less than big people? Is your worth as a person determined by mass?

    "i don't think you can judge people who get abortions until you're pregnant with no long term prospects for raising a good home environment."

    By the way, my first fiance had an abortion at 8 months pregnant. The bitch did it without my permission and for no reason after she left me because I wasn't a christian like her. ABORTION KILLED MY SON YOU COCKSUCKER.

  • abortion didn't kill your son. your girlfriend did, when she violated the law by having an abortion in the third trimester. if a woman is raped, and thus pregnant, does she not have the right to get an abortion?

  • Whether or not it was a legal abortion is besides the point. My kid is dead buried in a landfill some place and if I ever find the person that killed him ill strangle the fucker with a coat hanger.

  • I guess that means I can judge. I was in this situation and guess what I survived it all. I gave up much but I gained everything. Killing is Killing and you know it is killing or you would not understand what life is all about. Disabled people are people and if I was able I would adopt another child but I now have back problems.

  • oooohhh goodie for you. It gives you power but makes you hearless..hmmm...I don't want that kind of power.

  • We have the technology to identify the male responsible for any pregnancy. Why do we not hear proposals from the pro-life side to identify the father, hold him accountable through wage garnishing or other means of forced financial steps to support his baby? Do pro-lifers threaten the life of a child by NOT holding the father responsible for the support that newborn will need for a fruitful life? Where is the legislation to make this law? It makes the pro-life mssion ring hollow.

  • Brownback wants everyone to think that he opposes abortion. Actually, just the opposite is true. Early in his political career, BROWNBACK SUPPORTED ABORTIONS. There are interviews and newspaper articles that prove this. Furthermore, Brownback has partnered with radical left-wing feminists, who openly support the murder of human fetuses, in sponsoring the VAWA/IMBRA (International Romance Regulation Act).

  • He lost ALL credibility on being against abortion when he voted FOR the Sebelius confirmation.

    Good luck getting votes from the prolife community!

  • The American Medical Association is responsible for the extermination of millions,upon millions,upon millions of human beings.They are doing in under the guise of a medical procedure&they are expoliting women in order to profit from the extermination of these human beings.Any person who says it's a"woman's choice"has bought into the propaganda of blaming women for the extermination of these humans beings.

  • People say \"If it jeapordizes the woman's health\" But if you read the fine print, you'll learn that the governments defines the woman's health as mental health, physical health, spiritual health, emotional health, etc.

    So If she simply sees the baby as an inconvenience, she could claim that it will effect her \"mental health\" and have a partial birth aborition without any further questions.

  • What Motivates Pro-Choice Women? How many pro-choice women in the USA have had abortions? According to the Allan Guttmacher Institute, at least one out of almost every three women, or at least over 3 out of every 10, aged 15 through 65, has had an abortion in the USA. Since, as a rule of thumb, approximately half of the women in the USA are pro-life versus pro-choice; then we estimate that over 3 out of every 5 pro-choice women, aged 15 through 65, has had an abortion in the USA.Hence,,,cont.

  • It is a really funny thing and perhaps you can answer this question for me. Why is it that prodeath ppl don't include photo's of aborted babies to prove that they are not human beings & that this practice of killing babies should be promoted &encouraged? Seems to me the dead baby would be just the proof they need. PLEASE ANSWER!

  • A parasite is defined as an organism of one species living in or on an organism of another species (a heterospecific relationship) and deriving its nourishment from the host (is metabolically dependent on the host). (See Cheng, T.C., General Parasitology, p. 7, 1973.) Key phrase- "another species". The Embryo/fetus? is always human.

    Google "Why the Embryo or Fetus Is Not a Parasite"

    for why your position is inaccurate, educate yourself. The site you want is hosted by libertarians for life

  • It's murder any way you spin it. Abortion's roots are in racism. As far as I know they tried to speed up natural selection to rid the world of black people & it didn't work for obvious reasons.Blacks were never inferior to begin with-but by then it became socially acceptable.Of course the doctors had to make their money. So here we are today with abortion used as birth control.

  • The late Dr. Jerome LeJeune was a professor of genetics at the University of Descartes in Paris.He testified to the Judiciary Subcommittee, "after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being." He stated that this "is no longer a matter of taste or opinion," and "not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence." He added, "Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception." So the answer has already been given about when life begins.

  • STOP campaigning against abortion and use your energy to campaign for better contraception..oh no ...you wouldnt get to hate , kidnap and kill then would you? personally, if i was a foetus and my mother didnt want me then i wouldnt want to be born....youll not stop people fucking...its a natural urge like eating and breathing..... more use of contraception equals less abortion....or is that too logical for you?.....men you dont have babies so you dont know what its like.....

  • So,not only are children being killed by the American Medical Association,but women are being placed in a situation where they MUST accept the blame because it was"their" choice,not a man's.&if you want to see actual proof that it was a woman's choice all you have to do is refer to the millions upon millions of signatures on the orders of execution - each&every one of them belonging to a woman

  • In a study of teenage abortion patients, half suffered a worsening of psychosocial functioning within 7 months after the abortion. The immediate impact appeared to be greatest on the patients who were under 17 years of age and for those with previous psychosocial problems. Symptoms included: self-reproach, depression, social regression, withdrawal, obsession with need to become pregnant again, and hasty marriages.

  • ContWe estimate that most pro-choice women in the USA have had abortions. So What Motivates Pro-Choice Women? Is it the love of God? Is it the love of humanity? Is it about the welfare of women in Africa? No, what motivates pro-choice women is their need to rationalize and self-justify their crime against nature, their crime against humanity, their crime against self, their crime against their child and their crime against God. Reference: Finer LB

  • Calling pro-choice people who are pro-abortion is a dirty dangerous euphemism. Pro-choice is a way of avoiding to say:"pro-I-kill-my own-son/daugher-when-ever-I-wa­nt", it is as twisted as calling the Holocaust "final solution", or taking Jews to torture and death champs,"re-location",it is a coward, criminal way of hiding the truth.Killing babies because they will be handicaped is also nazi, they did so.Women who "commit" an abortion are selfish criminals.We must start naming things properly.

  • In other words, people don't want to be held accountable for their actions. If this were the case, people shouldn't be given DUI's because they were drinking to have fun, why should they be punished with a DUI? Because it's a decisoin they make knowing full well the consequences if they get caught.Just as with conception,do these women know what causes pregnancy?If so, they must take responsibility for their actions.

  • Pro-lifers aren't telling women what they must do with their body. They are telling women what they can't do to a fetus When I hear this idiotic "woman's body" argument, it's a bit like hearing a landlord saying he has a right to kill tenants, because they're living in his house. There is pure demonic evil in that argument.

  • Life begins: the sad thing is that the beginning of life has been determined by scientists...but that truth isn't being told. For example, the late Dr. Jerome LeJeune (world-famous geneticist and the one that discovered the chromosome pattern of down syndrome) testified before the US Senate and told them that life begins at conception, as well as many other scientists, drs. and professors. The truth has been made available. It's just been shoved under a rug.

  • What of the poor person from a 3rd-World country wanted to sell herself to me.I would pay several $ to her family,my slave would come live in my home&work for me&be taken care of for the rest of her life. You have a problem with that?Well I don't want to hear about it,because,as you said, people should "make up their own minds."Against slavery?Don't own a slave!

    America was a country whose initial purpose was to speak out for those with no voice.

    POPLAR

  • Many pro-aborts see nothing wrong with the barbaric 'partial birth 'abortion method, since the unborn child is 'not really human' anyway. Oh, yeah? Anyone who has ever witnessed a birth will tell you that, in the normal course of events, the baby's head emerges first. Does this mean that only the head is human - and the rest of it isn't? These guys need a reality check.

  • Men can go from woman to woman not caring anything about the individual other than that? they can satisfy their own selfish desires. The ability to carry a child and give birth makes the woman unique among men but when women allow men to pervert this gift for pleasure how can women say they made themselves better through "the right to their own body"?

  • i dont like abortion but if u use contraception sucessfully (women have the amazing gift of growing and bringing forth life and like it or not that brings responsibilities) you dont need abortion. life is not fair and if you are a sensible woman you will look after yourself. of course its the mans fault as well but iam talking about preventing abortion. so yes women, you are the ones left with the mess at theend so you better take care. no woman is forced by a doctor to have an abortion.

  • Sex, Life and Death belong to the individual alone. Not to any god or state. That seems to be what the Christians want . . . our freedom of choice. . . on all fronts. Christianity continues to dig its own grave. . . it really is kinda sad to watch.

  • wow, i think denying abortion is so wrong... but you people are so into your religious beliefs it makes me sick. who are u to decide whats right or wrong! i think every woman who wants to abort her child can find many illegal ways to do it, but is that the right way ????

  • As far as I knew, God gave people free choice regardless. Interfering with someone else's choice is going against the very will that God endowed the human race. Therefore, when you take away this choice, you are literally interfering with God's plan and WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. If God does not take away our choices, imagine how God WILL PUNISH those who constantly work against the very thing that he gave us. I feel sorry for extreme pro-lifers, there's a spot saved in hell for them.

  • if it is a human life, then so r sperm, so every time you kick a guy in the balls, your saying , IM PRO CHOICE!! Take that freedom haters...

  • The constitution also establishes that the US government is a SECULAR institution. Freedom of religion means that you can practice whatever you the hell you want without fear of being persecuted. BUT, when you get religion entangled in government policy, you are talking about a THEOCRACY > Iran is a theocracy. This country was founded ON LIBERAL PRINCIPLES and NOT on religion. THE MOST PRECIOUS LIBERAL PRINCIPLE IS FREEDOM TO CHOOSE> without it, you will not have religious freedom.

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  • yeah wtf was with that guy, from what i see it seems all you pro life people are kinda hypocrital when you say stuff like : pro choice women should be tortured to death and burn in hell... just an observation.

  • pro choice is pro death all women should be tortured to death that are pro choice fuck all you pro choice losers die of aids and burn in hell

  • Man. Feel that Christian Love.

    .....'tard o_O;;

  • Fuck off & die you piece of shit. Come around me & I'll shove a hanger so far your ass it will come out of your mouth.

  • All you prolifers are hypocrites. How many of you are actively adopting unwanted babies? Why all the fuss? Dead babies get a free pass to heaven and that's all you care about right? Also, babies grow up to be shit adults. When do precious little babies stop being miracles and start being fucked up adults? And why?

  • You frequently reproach pro-lifers for not being willing to adopt every potential aborted baby. No one person can adopt the millions of infants aborted every year. To throw in hyperbole and then berate their inability to fulfill an unreasonable statement is ridiculous. The moral question of society's responsibility of adoption is immaterial to the debate of abortion itself.? I guess that you are calling yourself a s**t adult then,huh?!?

  • :When the pregnancy is too far along to do a traditional abortion. Labor is induced and the baby's heartbeat is monitored. Then before delivery (yes, you have to deliver the baby), the oxygen is cut off and the baby essentially suffocates. Once no heartbeat is detected, the baby is delivered. You then will be able to see the baby who's life you ended. This would a difficult thing to do and many hospitals will not do it

  • According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, in 2005, 1.21 million abortions took place in the United States. Some 42,350 of these occurred on women who were 16 to 20 weeks pregnant; over 13,310 occurred on women who were 21 weeks or more into their pregnancy. According to CDC government data, over 64,000 abortions in a year are performed on women who had had three or more previous abortions.

  • What is it about humans that separates us from the animal kingdom? I believe it is our superior ability to reason abstractly, come to conclusions, express those conclusions, influence our environment, and also the ability to communicate through language. You are? a human if you have these abilities (older children and adults) or will develop these abilities (infants). By my definition the fetus is human because it will develop these abilities.

  • From single cell organisms to humans,all exist in one of 2 states,alive or deceased.

    from the moment of conception there is life,why is it not murder when a child in the womb,which is alive is killed?Yet people protest the execution of a murderer,yet the baby hasn't done anything wrong & it's o.k to execute him/her.I don't understand. Pro-deathers accuse pro-lifers of supporting the death penalty,I would like to see their stats & sourcesbb on that,something they can never provide.

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  • Spoken like a true Christian. So ironic that you call yourself pro life and you advocate the torturing to death of desperate women. What part about the term, "pro life" don't you understand? Is it the "life" bit that gets you?

  • Bunch of hypocrites "applies to every stage in life" what about the death penalty. You can't have both bible thumpers listen you can't pick you deserves to live or die. Pro-lifers love life unless they feel someone should die.

  • You know my friend, you hit the nail on the head. You are absolutely right. Plus these people are unable to see further their than noses and the talking snake in the bible. Far right Christians always show a complete lack of sound judgement on any matter. But then if you believe in a talking snake you are either a christian or a schizophrenic - sometimes it is hard to the difference between them.

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  • Christians imposing their will on everyone, once again!

    a Christian woman should be able to choose to go ahead and give birth.

    and a non-Christian, or just simply a woman who does not believe in pro-life smuck, can choose to abort her "living child".

    a fetus doesn't care if it's being aborted, and fate decides who lives or dies.

    And the point of "this child could have been something great, but now it can't because it was aborted" is irrelevant.

    Abstinence would have had the same effect.

  • if the baby you saved was gay, would you still fight for its rights?

  • they would....but then they'd spend their whole lives in the gay mans face trying to "save him from the wrath of satan for being a homo sexual"...damn christians

  • abortion is wrong muderers its murdering but i cant change peoples minds christians rock

  • see i'm torn on the abortion issue....

    on one side, i hate babies

    but on the other side, i dont think women deserve any rights to decide anything at all

    but......i LOVE nuttting in vaginas....BUT i hate condoms

    what do you think?

  • hahahaahahahah buhzzing

  • fuck christians theyre so quick and anxious to yell MURDERS and at the same time they are the biggest supporters of the iraq and afganistan wars

    THESE PEOPLE ARE EITHER INCREDIBLY BACKWARDS OR JUST PLAIN FUCKING NUTS

  • Well I'm christian, Pro-life, and anti-war in iraq...well I guess that just fucks up your logic. Have a nice day, and prepare to plead you case to the almighty.

  • may your conciousness evolve

  • ...? What are you implying?

  • you will be judged aswell my friend.

    don't be fake.

    You definitely just contradicted yourself.

    cursing my friend is no way to be a disciple of jesus christ

  • I agree - most far right Christians support the war in Iraq and the raping and killing of innocent Iraqis. This scientifically advanced world of ours has no place for simple minded rhetoric such as the "blood of Christ" and vague concepts like "sin", when not even Christians themselves can come to complete agreement of what represents a sinful act. The bible was written during a barbaric time in our history and yet it still holds so much sway over a large part of the population. Scary!!!!

  • To make absolutely sure that future generations have proof that women are the ones responsible for all of the killing they demand that a woman(ONLY a woman) sign the order of execution before a member of the AMA will perform the killing.That is to say that every child that is killed by a member of the American Medical Association has a woman's signature associated with the killing.Without this "mandatory" signature of a woman(the mother),the child gets to live.

  • Google "Kansas abortion statistics" and read the stats on abortion published online by the Kansas Dept of Health &Environment

    Between 04 and 08 Tiller performed 1928 late term abortions.

    99% had no birth defects

    99% posed no risk of death? to mother

    99% involved no medical emergency

    According to the LA Times, Tiller made $6000 for each late term (22+weeks old) abortion

    1928 x $6000 = $11,568,000 for 5 yrs (04--08)

    & that does not include the $ from the 1000s of his early term abortions

  • "...The abortion-rights folks know it, the anti-abortion folks know it, and so probably, does everyone else. One of the facts of abortion is that women enter abortion clinics to kill their fetuses. It is a form of killing ...you're ending a life." Ron Fitzsimmons, Executive Director, National Coalition of Abortion Providers, New York Times, 26 February 1997

  • RACISM Abortion is a vehicle of racism and sexism.Obama,by exporting abortions to the third world,is actively supporting the extermination of the African people with who he clams to identify. He is a liar!Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood was a Nazi sympathizer. Her aim was the reduction of the African American population by abortion. Someone as erudite as Obama should know that.If he does,then he's a hypocrite. If he does not,then he is a fool.

  • Like the word toddler and adolescent, the terms embryo and fetus do not refer to nonhumans, but to humans at a particular stages of development. The word embryo is used of any living creature at an eraly stage of development. Fetus is a Latin word meaning "young one" or "litte child" It is scientifically in accurate to say an? embroy or a fetus is not a human being simply because he is at an earlier stage of development than a born infant

  • This is like saying that a toddler is not a human being - or less of a human being - because he is not yet an adolescent. Or, that an adolescent is not a human being because he is not yet an adult. Stage of development has nothing to do with human worth. If my daughter is two years older than the other. Does this mean she is two years better? Is a two-year old child more precious now than he was a year ago? Is a child more worthy to live after birth than before birth?

  • Human Embryologists,the scientists who study human embryonic development prior to fertilization,through the first eight week,Post Fertilization,& beyond,the specialists-experts in the field,have told us for more than 100 years ago that a new human being's life begins at fertilization-in sexual reproduction,&in twinning.

    RoevWade&DoevBolton,&other abortion promoting cases are based on scientific ignorance,erring on the side of death,rather than on the side of life

  • .It reveals ignorance on those seen as"Educated,"such as Supreme Court Justices, politicians, Hollywood celebrities, media journalists and their bias, etc.

    In an astonishing admission, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she was under the impression that legalizing abortion with the 1973 Roe. v. Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, or as she put it "populations that we don't want to have too many of."

  • Many pro-aborts see nothing wrong with the barbaric 'partial birth 'abortion method, since the unborn child is 'not really human' anyway. Oh, yeah? Anyone who has ever witnessed a birth will tell you that, in the normal course of events, the baby's head emerges first. Does this mean that only the head is human - and the rest of it isn't? These guys need a reality check.

  • The right to abortion came about in the fight for women's rights. So they can have as many rights as men have and not be belittled by men. But if you ask me the right of abortion hasn't boosted women as a whole but has allowed men to degrade them even more than ever before. Men treat women more like objects of desire as a result, rather than human beings because they know? that the consequences of sex are null and void with contraceptives and abortion.

  • It almost seems as though you believe that children should die so you&the others on this earth can have a more comfortable life.

  • If we just say.'let's make it legal because it will happen anyway'..why not extend this to child-molesting, drunk driving - or any other evil and destructive folly? There will always be those who disobey the law of the land, but this is no excuse for making a bad practice legal.

  • I find no non-arbitrary reason to abridge the pre-existing rights of the embryo. It is scientifically demonstrably a Living Human Individual (it's not dead or inert and operates on its environment therefore it is alive, the DNA sequence is Human, and it's DNA pattern is distinctive from it's parents), I can not find a non-arbitrary reason (such as it doesn't have friends yet, it isn't productive yet, it depends on others) to abridge it's rights.

  • All I ask, and a position many I think could get behind, is that the rights of this human be considered equally in the balance with other humans, and that their rights not be thrown out by wishy washy terms such as "personhood", which have been used to abridge people's rights to life (jews, africans, others) over and over throughout history by various groups for various reasons, often leading to justification for slavery or death.

  • My friend wants to kill his girlfriend and he figures the easiest way, both physically and emotionally, is to kill her while she's sleeping. I'm really concerned about the whole situation, but she'll have no awareness of what happened so it's ok. Right?

    C'mon, many people die "unaware". To justify killing something based on its awareness of it is not valid.

  • tTe NATURE OF the mothers "SAY", the unborn loses its say,it also loses its LIFE!The right we are campaigning to remove from its mother is much less fundamental than her right to life.Most of us don't have a problem with abortion when her life actually is in danger.When an independent doctor who has no financial stake in whether or not that abortion is performed can clearly state in his/her expert medical opinion that the mother would likely not survive ifshe had to carry the pregnancy to term.

  • I never said the unborn has the right to life at the expense of another's LIFE--we're not dealing with that. I'm talking about cases where the woman's life is not in danger.I'm more than willing to condone forced organ donation IF you caused the circumstances that led to the person needing the organ in the first place. (Which in case you don't realize, is the case with pregnancy)The baby had no way of avoiding his/her circumstances.

  • SENTIENCEAny of those characteristics you use to label that unborn child unworthy of protection put you down a very dangerous path. If you really want to go down that road, ok--thinking, feeling, aware; what about a person in a coma. ? You also haven't addressed the fact that I said that I was willing to condone forced organ donations if the person being forced was responsible for the organ being needed in the first place. That's a pretty fair comparison.

  • Because your "personal beliefs" on life are directly contradicted by biological and logical facts. I have no reading problems, I have comprehension problems when someone ostensibly lacks logic. It's grasping at straws because the seed vs. tree has FAR less to do with unborn child vs. born person than use of two very illegitimate criteria to justify two very wrong practices have to do with each other

  • implantation to the uterine wall. That's where scientifically we need to draw the line. Because before that point, left alone it will not be born, because it's not in the environment it needs to be in for any development to take place. Once development has begun, it's only a matter of degree, and left alone it will most likely be born.

  • I am most certainly NOT talking about "forced" pregnancies. I am not "forcing" anyone to GET pregnant. There's COMPLETE freedom to "choose" on that point. Just once you've actually CREATED that life, you don't have the right to end it. Yes, psychological damage means something to me, but no legal statute permits one to kill in order to avoid it, only to protect your life, particularly when the circumstances causing the psychological damage were avoidable in the first place.

  • Allowing something to die is different from actively taking its life. That condition does not allow the child to live more than a few days? anyway. VERY different from a healthy unborn whose mother just can't be bothered with allowing it to run its natural course that she could have avoided in the first place.And you have? every right to "choose" death for yourself. But not for someone else

  • Dr Bernard Nathanson,founder of NARAL,admitted he LIED about the number of women who died from illegal abortions when he testified before the Supreme Court in 1972."We spoke of 5,000-10,000 deaths a year.I confess that I knew the numbers were totally false". According to Bureau of Vital Statistics,only 39 women died from illegal abortions in 1972. & most of the "illegal" abortions were performed by PHYSICIANS,the SAME Dr's who perform the legal abortions, not "back-alley butchers".Cont..

  • A women is never more degraded than when she agrees to destroy her own child. Demand full funding for non-violent crisis pregnancy programs. Abortion is a cheap and disrespectful solution. Help your pregnant sisters in? any way you can

  • Kill the starving or those with lousy personal lives or the depressed while they suffer (for now at any rate), does this mean that their lives our valueless?Should they not be the ones to decide that?Do you not support law enforcement or prisons for hardened criminals? If you do, are these not the most blatant forms of pressing your beliefs onto others? You will find that to have any moral code at all involves imposing your beliefs onto others.

  • You can't do that without committing murder.. killing children to "protect" them from a life of hell necessarily implies that we should also kill everyone else in the world who is ALREADY living a life of hell. if you are so eager to kill unwanted babies out of misplaced compassion, why are you not also eager to kill the masses of starved and diseased people in the world? isn't killing them a necessary evil? see the contradiction? it's very important

  • I was unaware that American law was an unquestionable and divine authority. My apologies for being so ignorant & if I'm ever in the mood to kill someone, I'll make sure to feel real good about him first before taking him out. Because that's the trick isn't it? You can take hostile action against someone, as long as you don't FEEL hostile towards him. & this assuming that your interpretation of law is accurate, but it's not. No law book says "no malice, no murder"

  • Murder is wrong, agreed? Living things grow, agreed? Murder is the intentional or unintentional act of ending a life, agreed? Abortion is an act of ending a life. A fetus is a group of GROWING cells, which indicates life since dead things do not grow.The theory of hair and nails growing after death is a myth. Your skin shrinks bc your body is dehydrating. This forces the hair and nails away from the skin - making it APPEAR to be growing. As I said, dead things do not grow.

  • Everytime I hear someone defend slaughter by bringing up population I'm reminded of this quote by Charles Dickens, "Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor child. Oh God. to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust." He's right, who are you to live and others to die or simply not exist?

  • If birthmothers were aware that when placing for adoption, they would receive assistance during pregnancy and they can select the family that they place their child with. Birthmothers and couples can choose a plan that works for them.

    "1% of the? Helpline's annual 40,000 clients inquire about adoption."

  • Becky Bell died of a deadly&fast-acting form of pneumonia, similar to that which killed Muppets creator Jim Henson,which had neither originated in nor had affected the reproductive system.She had contracted this especially lethal form of pneumonia at about the same time that she had a miscarriage

  • They never seem to link their Malthusian perspective with their support of abortion "rights."Quotas on the # of children per family seem tyrannical.Its better to glorify"abortion rights" &get the people worried about overpopulation.Better to distribute the kool-aid.Can you not see that if euthanasia becomes 'voluntary', this is only one step away from when it is made COMPULSORY. Once we embark upon that slippery slope, where will it all end?

  • The permission for the baby to use the womans uterus is granted by the decision of the woman to have sex. As mammals and as human beings, the act of sex is designed to create new life. This is not to say that sex was meant to be used always as a means of procreation, but the possibility of creating a new life IS there every time we have sex.

    She invited the baby into her womb.

  • The woman might attempt to deny this fact of nature, but nevertheless, the act of sex is allowing the possibility of pregnancy (even? if not intended), and that in itself, is giving the baby (another person), permission to use her body or organs. Since women are intelligent human beings (and thus realize this), if a new life should be created, she does not then have the right to kill that new, separate, living person.

  • During WWII, many pregnant women in concentration camps had their babies forcibly aborted. The 'method' was a Nazi officer's jackboot stamped upon the abdomen, with the inevitable results. The fiends who did this were convicted of 'crimes against humanity' at the Nuremberg trials. Some 25 years later we had Roe v Wade - and the deliberate killing of unborn human life suddenly became a 'choice' and a 'women's right'. We need to make up our minds about abortion. Human wrong or human right?

  • When the UK's 1967 Abortion Act was passed, its instigator (David Steel) said that it 'would not open the floodgates to abortion'. What a load of crap that turned out to be! Others argued that making contraception freely available would 'reduce the number of abortions' - another load of bull. Let no-one be deluded about this, there are more abortions now than ever before, thanks to our know-all politicians for making 'contraception' and abortion so freely available.

  • Our society is selfish. It is really sad that a child must die so that we can live the way we want to.The solution to unwanted pregnancy is NOT HAVING SEX!Unless you are willing to be responsible &accept the consequences of sex then you shouldn't be having it! It is as simple as that!Unfortunately we have a society filled with people who believe in selflessness.If we can accept that a mother can kill her own child,how can we tell other people not to kill one another?

  • The other point I would now like to make is that mother Earth is currently producing enough food to sustain 13 billion human inhabitants - and this on a mere fraction of the available rain-fed arable land. Ignore the trendy media spin-misers and concentrate instead on the FACTS. In the days of horse and cart, doomsayers were predicting that the streets of Manhattan would soon be '3 feet deep in horse manure', such was the rate of development. Then along came the motor car.

  • Dehumanization...that is sad my friend.Such thinking leads to all sorts of disaster.How do you think Nazis were able to guiltlessly kill of so many people?--Dehumanization. Look at history.The easiest way for people to make war, create genocide, etc. was by dehumanizing enemies and opposing forces. Now, in order to advance abortion people make the argument that a fetus is not a human, in doing so they try to suppress the emotional factor attached with abortion, so it is more likely to happen

  • Now for those who don't believe in God, surely they can understand what he's getting at, that human rights are not granted by other humans, but something each human has naturally.

  • Indeed, in my view we currently live with a status quo of Embryonic Apartheid, were embryo's aren't just considered less than full human, but not even considered humans at all. Suggestions of carving up embryos to insert their tissues into other people's bodies as medicine is nothing short of Embryonic Slavery.

  • Cont..Even though they will almost certainly be able to recover to full function in time?I think a majority of people would find slaying that person unjust,&insist that care be provided.Certainly when someone is found unconscious there is no reason to regard their human rights impaired,even though for a period they are not"Sentient",neither should the rights of the unborn be abridged for this reason.

  • Why does a women have the right to have an abortion?Yet the man who fertilized her egg with his sperm making her pregnant.has no right to stop the girl from having that abortion?Her choice?What about the daddys(mans)choice. I dont think a man should ever be able to make a girl have an abortion. But i do feel he has a right to PROTECT his unborn offspring!I believe a womens right to do with her body as she pleases.Thats fine but when she becomes pregnant she has a duty to protect that child.

  • Mens rights have been ignored too long.Men do not have a choice to walk out on their responsibilities.If they impregnate a women they must legally share the responsibility of that child. Whether they want it or not.(and rightfully so)A women can abort& walk away.leaving the man childless,even if he agrees to raise child alone.He cant stop it.You cant tell pro choice people this.They just label men chauvinist pigs.

  • Removing a kidney causes permanent loss of a vital organ--pregnancy does not.

    Many people didn't think black people were considered "people" either. Ability, stage, size, awareness, or any of the other characteristics you use are just as arbitrary and invalid as color in making that determination. Also, the point with a tumor is that it will kill you if you don't remove it--if that is the case with an unborn

  • I've already said there's no problem with that. I never said "blueprints" were worth more than the "actual person." I said certain rights precede other rights

  • Value of fetus less than mother?I'm not questioning that when we're comparing the same rights. (Unborn's LIFE vs. mother's LIFE) but not when it's the unborn's life vs. mother's anything other than life. It's not about WHOSE rights are more important, it's about WHAT rights are more important, and life trumps all other rights

  • The baby is not a "potential" human being, it IS a human being.A "potential" human being is before any actual development begins. Once there is development, it is a human being. It depends what you mean by "force someone to give birth." I say you can & should force someone to not kill the human being inside of them. Human beings do have a right to an existence, at least they have the right not to have their existence taken at the mercy of another.

  • No, because she still had the choice NOT to do what caused her death. We didn't force her. Our decision had to do with protecting other lives, and if she makes a decision she didn't have to make because of that, that is not our problem. I never advocated trying to solve the problem only by banning it, but that is still one step that must be taken if we intend to call ourselves a civilized society.

  • Because one more time every characteristic you use to declare this to be nothing but a "potential" are no more valid than the use of skin color. Once it begins development, it is no longer just "potential" because left alone to its natural course, it WILL be a born human being. Not so with sperm and egg--when that's all it? is, becoming an unborn child is simply one of many courses, not the single natural one

  • Cont..either being raped or being irresponsible? It's really mostly used by elites 2 kill off those unwanted by elites (they tell the "useful idiots" it's 4 their freedom)&those who are a menace 2 the woman's bling life. What kind of mother decides 4 her safety? over her baby's, anyway (yes, scientifically, it's human)? Fetus&nigger R dehumanizing

  • Abortion is disrespectful of women, we deserve better then abortion. Mostly men perform abortions, mostly men legalized abortion. Feminists use these arguments to alleviate the guilt they have for the abortion they have had, misery loves company!?! Or perhaps they really do enjoy being abused and used by male dominated abortion culture. We women are not stupid, have some self respect and worth. Do you really think these prodeath men care, of course they do, they make a killing off us& our babies

  • Abortion is not a belief, it's the murder of a baby and the injury; emotional, physical and even sometimes spiritual, to the mother. Please DO NOT FORGET, MOST women do not want abortion...they are threatened with violence, abandonment and no support and 'forced with no CHOICEyou can't kill a child just to save your own skin. that's pretty self evident for those already born, but when we're talking about people we can't readily see without ultrasound, it's easy to rationalize

  • And take the easy way out when in a tight spot, even, as in this case, if it kills somebody?!? The point you have been conveying is that, if a child is likely to undergo pain and suffering in his life, he should be exterminated for his own good before he is born. or, if a girl is going to suffer for her pregnancy, she should exterminate her child before he is born. the whole point of this argument has been to show that, whatever the circumstances surrounding a human's conception,

  • How on earth can we consider&support our own mother killing us because we were the product of rape?Does this mean anyone is superior to someone who is the product of rape?I cannot exchange one tragic event(rape)with one ten times worse(murder)!RAPE IS HORRIBLE.The solution to rape is to stop it from happening,not let it go unpunished.The act is inhuman & the penalty under law isn't severe enough.Rapists need to know that there is no room for their existence in

  • It is self-evident that a mother who comes to regret her choice to abort must struggle with grief more anguished and sorrow more profound when she learns,only after the event,what she once did not know:that she allowed a doctor to pierce the skull & vacuum the fast-developing brain of her unborn child.The United States has one of the highest abortion rates in the developed world, with women from every socioeconomic, racial,ethnic,religious & age-group obtaining abortions,"says Lawrence Finer,

  • If healthy young people out of their own lack of responsibility get pregnant nowadays, the life they created is a responsibility they have to take. The moment you start categorizing life you immediately devalue it. I am sorry to bring it up, but that's how the holocaust happened. The difference between Germans, Jews, Gays and so on led to murder and that's what abortion is. Life is precious.

  • There Are Up To 36 Couples Waiting For Every One Baby Placed For Adoption.

    ~54,500 unrelated domestic adoptions occur each year.- 23,500 infant adoptions take place annually.~16,000 international adoptions take place each year.

    adoption(dot)org thehelpline org

    Yes.Some babies don't get adopted.Some grow up to become adults & as you say "grow out".Growing out is something aborted babies will never get to do.

  • Medical privacy? Abortion has nothing to do with medicine. Until the 1970s the Hippocratic oath all physicians took specifically promised *not* to induce abortion. Pregnancy is a perfectly normal, natural condition. It may be that a pregnant mother decides that she wishes *not* to be pregnant, and secures the services of a physician who is willing to poison or burn the infant within her so that it dies slowly & cruelly. Still, this? is *not* "health care. It is an abortion, and an abomination

  • AND as for what the baby would think about his/her father? It is up to loving. People need to support the child & explain to him that his father gave us a great gift in him & that no matter who the man was or what his intentions were,that we would never think of taking the boy's life for he did nothing wrong but make the world brighter!!

    AND as for what the baby would think about his/her father? It is up to loving. Peo

  • The fact is that ProLife stands for the promotion of life. We believe that when steps are taken to stop, interfere and end the full development and creation of life for convenience (as what most abortions are done for), including abortions from the moment of conception, is an act that deprives the unborn to it's right to life. The depravation of one's right to life is wrong and unjust

  • Availability I know people who've had abortions who really would not have if they had to break the law. The clinics also spit on bills requiring that they show women their baby on ultrasound and tell them that it's a person. The clinics prey on the woman's fears (according to former abortionists)? like childcare expenses and uncertainty of college and career. They sell abortions, and in a hurry.

  • Abortion is legal because we let it be.We live in the richest country,a land flowing of milk&honey,but immediate gratification&selfishness seems to be our anthem.Abortion is a multi-million $ business.What price is human life? $500-$5000.That is what your life is worth if you havent passed through the birth canal!We talk of human rights,we talk of animal rights,while the entire time we allow fellow Americans to slaughter&be slaughtered.We have no respect for women,we have no respect for life!

  • OK,,,so what you are saying is the instant the baby peeks its head out of the vagina,a lightening bolt strikes, a thunderbolt claps, a Supreme Court Justice pounds a gavel & the baby is proclaimed a human being!?! Fairytale, fantasy!! You can't really believe that?! What was the baby 9 minutes,9 hours, 9 weeks and 9 months prior to that earth shaking moment in history??

  • You are pro-death,you not only condone it,you support&defend abortion.You even encourage a mother hiring a hit man to forcibly enter her womb with the sole intention of dismembering,tearing,ripping her little baby into pieces.Then with his cold,hard tools of his trade,suctioning out the tiny body parts into a stainless steel colander to be reassembled.FOR MONEY!When you say pro-choice,you are pro-death.

  • This has to be the worst ever case of double standards in human history, when abortion is 'all wrong' if it doesn't suit us, yet 'alright' if it does. If it is not a 'crime against humanity', it follows that those convicted at Nuremberg ought to be officially pardoned, their surviving relatives awarded $millions in compensation. Abortion is either a human wrong or a human right, but it cannot be BOTH. As somebody once said...'man has an infinite capacity to deceive himself'...