#98 is still running. I am a volunteer at OERM and I have recently ridden in 98. It runs like a brand new locomotive and in fact is the only one if its kind in existence still in operation in America. We take very extra special care of it. #98 is scheduled for body work and a new paint job this year.
Is the FP-45 a carbody version of the EMD SD-45 freight locomotive? I read somewhere where the rocking motion of the FP's was related to the water in steam generators sloshing around when they hit a harmonic balance point.
I do know that the FP45's and SD45's both have twenty cylinders so I'd say yes. There was also the F45, SDFP45, SDF40-2, the Canadian SD40-2F, and I think SD40F-2. I think that's all of them but I may have missed some, LOL.
The F45 is an SD45 with a carbody. The longer FP45 is an SDP45 with a carbody. Santa Fe Re-designated the FP45 as SDFP45. The 18 Santa Fe SDF40-2s were the former Amtrak SDP40fs acquired by Santa Fe. Basically an SD40-2 with a carbody Only one SDP40f survives today (MAERSK unit). The METRA F40C is also a carbody SD40-2. The carbodies on the above were similar. However, the carbodies on the Canadian units are completely different from the bodies on the above mentioned units.
It's nice to go out to the museum and be next to such a great locomotive. I went inside that covered wagon once in the engineroom. It was fun! Thx for posting.
Your welcome. Love that locomotive. The only thing is that the mars light on it just makes it look not right. But it being an FP45 beats that by a long shot.
I should have added more info. Yes they were geared for 110 but while they did hit 100 mph+ at times, they generally stayed just below the speed in the 90+ range. They did have an odd problem that scared engine crews. Between 71-74 mph they would rock wildly, but become stable once they went above or below that speed range. It was theorized later that it was a combination of harmonic motion / vibration at just the right frequency along with the track's plastic memory..
Wow, interesting. I talked to a UP conductor once and I was telling him how I love EMD, hate GE, exept for one engine. I told him the U50. He told me he used to be the engineer on them, and said that they would sway at just the slightest bump.
I agree. They did their duty well. Downside for today is that with the modern standards that we have on today's locomotives (higher fuel efficiency, less polluting, smaller prime movers), the FP45s with their behemoth 20 cylinder diesels are basically obsolete. Ironically a number of their cousins, the SD45 and SD45-2s and at least 1 F45, are still running but are being retired as time moves on.
That wide car body just screemed POWER to me. I used to see them as a little tike as trailing power, but when I saw one patched for BNSF the first time, it broke my heart. :-(
98 is in wichita ks gptm on e douglas in wichita
777bnsf 3 weeks ago
Where is OERM? I would like to know so I could get a picture!!!!!
Pugsleytrainlover106 3 months ago
@Pugsleytrainlover106 All I can tell you is that it is in Paris California. I don't know the street name or adress though. Sorry. God bless!
TrainTrackTrav 3 months ago
#98 is still running. I am a volunteer at OERM and I have recently ridden in 98. It runs like a brand new locomotive and in fact is the only one if its kind in existence still in operation in America. We take very extra special care of it. #98 is scheduled for body work and a new paint job this year.
charbilly2005 5 months ago
fp45's are almost exactly the same as an f40c
frankthetank961 1 year ago
wait i could have swore santa fe #98 was still running r there two locomotivves with number 98 or am i just confused
Barricade360 1 year ago
hey tell me when ur going back to oerm im 14 and im a member and i caqn give u alot of facts on the whole oerm area
trainkid0616 2 years ago
SWEET! I will for sure, and thanks!
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
That is my favorite locomotive at the museum. I was happy when the museum got to keep it for all timesake.
luvtrns4evr 2 years ago
Yeah, The FP45s were loved by all rail fans and deserve to be preserved.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
huge couplor
bnsftim 2 years ago
The amazine part is that all the weight it pulls all comes down to one small single steel coupler pin.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
y dose the pin do not go in sometimes?
bnsftim 2 years ago
Ya know, I'm not sure.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
im thinking they dont go fast of they dont tug on them
bnsftim 2 years ago
were you alowed to enter the engine?
trainman122 2 years ago
They do give cab rides on weekends but on weekdays when they're not operating, no.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
I so want to go there.
trainman122 2 years ago
It is a fun place.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
Pritty Pritty.
trainman122 2 years ago
She sure is.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
Is the FP-45 a carbody version of the EMD SD-45 freight locomotive? I read somewhere where the rocking motion of the FP's was related to the water in steam generators sloshing around when they hit a harmonic balance point.
epistte 2 years ago
I do know that the FP45's and SD45's both have twenty cylinders so I'd say yes. There was also the F45, SDFP45, SDF40-2, the Canadian SD40-2F, and I think SD40F-2. I think that's all of them but I may have missed some, LOL.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
The F45 is an SD45 with a carbody. The longer FP45 is an SDP45 with a carbody. Santa Fe Re-designated the FP45 as SDFP45. The 18 Santa Fe SDF40-2s were the former Amtrak SDP40fs acquired by Santa Fe. Basically an SD40-2 with a carbody Only one SDP40f survives today (MAERSK unit). The METRA F40C is also a carbody SD40-2. The carbodies on the above were similar. However, the carbodies on the Canadian units are completely different from the bodies on the above mentioned units.
ACLTony 2 years ago
It's nice to go out to the museum and be next to such a great locomotive. I went inside that covered wagon once in the engineroom. It was fun! Thx for posting.
luvtrns4evr 2 years ago
Your welcome. Love that locomotive. The only thing is that the mars light on it just makes it look not right. But it being an FP45 beats that by a long shot.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
I should have added more info. Yes they were geared for 110 but while they did hit 100 mph+ at times, they generally stayed just below the speed in the 90+ range. They did have an odd problem that scared engine crews. Between 71-74 mph they would rock wildly, but become stable once they went above or below that speed range. It was theorized later that it was a combination of harmonic motion / vibration at just the right frequency along with the track's plastic memory..
ACLTony 2 years ago
Wow, interesting. I talked to a UP conductor once and I was telling him how I love EMD, hate GE, exept for one engine. I told him the U50. He told me he used to be the engineer on them, and said that they would sway at just the slightest bump.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago
I agree. They did their duty well. Downside for today is that with the modern standards that we have on today's locomotives (higher fuel efficiency, less polluting, smaller prime movers), the FP45s with their behemoth 20 cylinder diesels are basically obsolete. Ironically a number of their cousins, the SD45 and SD45-2s and at least 1 F45, are still running but are being retired as time moves on.
ACLTony 3 years ago
That wide car body just screemed POWER to me. I used to see them as a little tike as trailing power, but when I saw one patched for BNSF the first time, it broke my heart. :-(
TrainTrackTrav 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing. The Santa Fe FP45s were graceful units that were originally geared for 90+ mph operation when introduced in 1967.
ACLTony 3 years ago
They were beautiful engines. It's good to know that she still operates. What I would give to see one pointing a BNSF train.
TrainTrackTrav 3 years ago
They were geared for 110MPH too.
wirerail 2 years ago
Yeah, that's what I thought. Weren't the ones geared for 110 used on passenger trains. The ones geared for 90 must've been used on the Super C.
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago