@washhtsfinest184 if you know the passage let me know I guess I'd be interested if it's new testament. When I get a chance i'll Google this subject more or something and look into it.
@KB9NLL i will tried to find it from you but please get this book choo thomas title heaven is so real and go on google and search testimony of heaven and hell there alot of testimony of jesus taking people to heaven and hell . they seen people in hell my friend :)
@k0smon I think it's that the old and new testaments contradict. Correct me if I'm wrong, I should Google that just out of curiosity. Christians are supposed to follow the new testament. That's why I'm switching from lutheran. The old is important to know but when it takes 90% of services I don't consider that Christian. Jews use the old testament but I don't think they follow it too closely. Specifically some of the contradictions like kill witches.
@washhtsfinest184 maybe something got lost in translation but it say on judgement day god will judge the living and the dead. You can't go to heaven or hell until you get judged on judgement day. Unless your an insider like Jesus. It doesn't say when you die you'll be judged and then on judgement day only the living will be judged.
@KB9NLL when the dead the flesh dies and the soul leaves the body,the soul lives on.so when jesus comes back to pick up his church the dead will rise and be judge first i guess from my understanding that the dead will rise and everyone will be judge by god but read your bible and talk to ur pastor
Is it possible that the bible is wrong? More that possible. Bible scholar Bart Ehrman says the bible is full of contradiction and error. Current investigations into psychic phenomena are more revealing than a 2000 year old book.
I agree that spirits/ghosts/aliens are probably demons or maybe also good angels. However the statements that someone who died is in heaven or hell now is wrong. On judgement day god will judge the living and the dead. Then they'll go to heaven or hell. Until then i think they are in a holding area and the time between death and judgment day is instantaneous.
I used to call myself a satanist but I definitely did most of those things and embraced and welcomed satan in the past. He has never directly tried to harm me since I left the church. The bible was written by men BELEIVING that god was speaking through them. It has been shown that the bible has at least 3 distinct writing styles and the vocabulary changes. Why would god have 3 distinct ways of speaking and writing? I love christians, more power to you, but I can't just take someone's word for it
@caljones Archeology doesn't say, some say aliens built them, but I have seen the Bible proven true countless times; I would rather trust God's truth than the lies of men.
@caljones The Bible was written by the Holy Spirit (GOD) through men. This is why the word is theomatic and connected throughout by readable numerals.(Not found in any other writings). And archeology found them to be volunteers? How strange..
@IslandMystic if you were to look at any of the heirogliphs on the pirimids themselves, you will see them makeing beer and wine AND they wre burid in the shadow of the pirymid. now how many 'slaves' would get that honor? that does not change the fact aht it was writeen by men.
@caljones A person writing or acting under the influence of the Holy Spirit is not acting or writing from their own mind. So even now there are secretaries who actually write for others--but no one says-"this was written by your secretary" It is the same principle. No the slaves were the workers, those celebrating were not slaves. There is no opposition to the fact that Hebrew slaves were indeed there...so what do you think they were building? This is pointless.
@caljones How is your point proven? God was the author of the Bible, theomatics is as an invisible signature and can not be duplicated. The 'men' were taking the dictation. As a mystic, I have had this experience myself. It was not from me but from God. As for slaves, ask any Hebrew, they know their own roots better than those who are opinionated.
Hebrews 9:27 states: It is appointed for man once to die and then after this Judgment! also The Bible states in 2corinthians 5:8: To be absent in the body is to be present with the Lord. When you die your time on earth is over. period. There is no unfinished business that can keep you away from the Judgment of God. think about it.. everyone has unfinished business. I lived in a haunted house that had a boy and a grandmother and a demon.. turned out all to be the demon playing with me.
When Jesus entered into the locked upper room,His disciples thought that He was a spirit,but Jesus said a spirit does not have flesh and bone as they saw He had.Jesus confirmed that spirits are real with His statement.People who hunt Ghosts are just being deceived by these demonic entities,they are causing many to believe that people still walk the Earth after death which is contrary to the Bible.When one dies his body goes to the grave,but his spirit goes to Heaven or Hell.
@washhtsfinest184 if you know the passage let me know I guess I'd be interested if it's new testament. When I get a chance i'll Google this subject more or something and look into it.
KB9NLL 3 months ago
@KB9NLL i will tried to find it from you but please get this book choo thomas title heaven is so real and go on google and search testimony of heaven and hell there alot of testimony of jesus taking people to heaven and hell . they seen people in hell my friend :)
washhtsfinest184 4 hours ago
@KB9NLL go on youtube and put choo thomas
washhtsfinest184 4 hours ago
@k0smon I think it's that the old and new testaments contradict. Correct me if I'm wrong, I should Google that just out of curiosity. Christians are supposed to follow the new testament. That's why I'm switching from lutheran. The old is important to know but when it takes 90% of services I don't consider that Christian. Jews use the old testament but I don't think they follow it too closely. Specifically some of the contradictions like kill witches.
KB9NLL 3 months ago
@washhtsfinest184 maybe something got lost in translation but it say on judgement day god will judge the living and the dead. You can't go to heaven or hell until you get judged on judgement day. Unless your an insider like Jesus. It doesn't say when you die you'll be judged and then on judgement day only the living will be judged.
KB9NLL 3 months ago
@KB9NLL when the dead the flesh dies and the soul leaves the body,the soul lives on.so when jesus comes back to pick up his church the dead will rise and be judge first i guess from my understanding that the dead will rise and everyone will be judge by god but read your bible and talk to ur pastor
washhtsfinest184 4 hours ago
Is it possible that the bible is wrong? More that possible. Bible scholar Bart Ehrman says the bible is full of contradiction and error. Current investigations into psychic phenomena are more revealing than a 2000 year old book.
k0smon 7 months ago
I agree that spirits/ghosts/aliens are probably demons or maybe also good angels. However the statements that someone who died is in heaven or hell now is wrong. On judgement day god will judge the living and the dead. Then they'll go to heaven or hell. Until then i think they are in a holding area and the time between death and judgment day is instantaneous.
KB9NLL 9 months ago
@KB9NLL well the bible say that the dead will go to heaven or hell no in between.
washhtsfinest184 3 months ago
I used to call myself a satanist but I definitely did most of those things and embraced and welcomed satan in the past. He has never directly tried to harm me since I left the church. The bible was written by men BELEIVING that god was speaking through them. It has been shown that the bible has at least 3 distinct writing styles and the vocabulary changes. Why would god have 3 distinct ways of speaking and writing? I love christians, more power to you, but I can't just take someone's word for it
kleptomc 10 months ago
@kleptomc you should talk to god and he will answer their is a god my friend
washhtsfinest184 4 hours ago
it also talks about the judgement of babylon and world judgment follows in the end times....but...the world hasnt ended yet now has it?
MRguitarguy85 1 year ago
the bible also says that the pyrimids where built by slaves, but archaeology says otheriwse.
caljones 1 year ago
@caljones Archeology doesn't say, some say aliens built them, but I have seen the Bible proven true countless times; I would rather trust God's truth than the lies of men.
IslandMystic 1 year ago 2
@IslandMystic they weren't slaves, but volenteers. and the bible was written by men, not god.
caljones 1 year ago
@caljones The Bible was written by the Holy Spirit (GOD) through men. This is why the word is theomatic and connected throughout by readable numerals.(Not found in any other writings). And archeology found them to be volunteers? How strange..
IslandMystic 1 year ago
@IslandMystic if you were to look at any of the heirogliphs on the pirimids themselves, you will see them makeing beer and wine AND they wre burid in the shadow of the pirymid. now how many 'slaves' would get that honor? that does not change the fact aht it was writeen by men.
caljones 1 year ago
@caljones A person writing or acting under the influence of the Holy Spirit is not acting or writing from their own mind. So even now there are secretaries who actually write for others--but no one says-"this was written by your secretary" It is the same principle. No the slaves were the workers, those celebrating were not slaves. There is no opposition to the fact that Hebrew slaves were indeed there...so what do you think they were building? This is pointless.
IslandMystic 1 year ago
@IslandMystic what? it sounds like you're trying to contradict me, but are actually proving my point
caljones 1 year ago
@caljones How is your point proven? God was the author of the Bible, theomatics is as an invisible signature and can not be duplicated. The 'men' were taking the dictation. As a mystic, I have had this experience myself. It was not from me but from God. As for slaves, ask any Hebrew, they know their own roots better than those who are opinionated.
IslandMystic 1 year ago
@IslandMystic but why would a slave be buried in the shadow of a pyrimid?
caljones 1 year ago
@caljones The same reason some people are buried outside a grave yard.
IslandMystic 1 year ago
@IslandMystic and what reason would that be?
caljones 1 year ago
Hebrews 9:27 states: It is appointed for man once to die and then after this Judgment! also The Bible states in 2corinthians 5:8: To be absent in the body is to be present with the Lord. When you die your time on earth is over. period. There is no unfinished business that can keep you away from the Judgment of God. think about it.. everyone has unfinished business. I lived in a haunted house that had a boy and a grandmother and a demon.. turned out all to be the demon playing with me.
pyrcival 1 year ago
When Jesus entered into the locked upper room,His disciples thought that He was a spirit,but Jesus said a spirit does not have flesh and bone as they saw He had.Jesus confirmed that spirits are real with His statement.People who hunt Ghosts are just being deceived by these demonic entities,they are causing many to believe that people still walk the Earth after death which is contrary to the Bible.When one dies his body goes to the grave,but his spirit goes to Heaven or Hell.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
Alles Käse ....
fritzpresley 2 years ago