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  • Women aren't funny...

  • This video neither entertained me nor aroused me...please take this down

  • You're not very funny. You're sexy. Go with that.

  • I know several women who do make me laugh genuinely. I agree with Hitchens about women not needing to be funny on an evolutionary standpoint, but I personally find women far more attractive if they possess charming wit.

  • That being said women are horrible at pratical jokes, it always ends up cruel and just mean... But so it the guy making race and sexy jokes that arnt funny but just insuting. So

  • Funny is an subjective view and and see how he can pass judgment on what makes people laugh, it's an opinion. He entitled to it. But you can tell there are a lot of hitchens followers here and they seem religious on how they worship and protect him, witch is ironic and.. A little funny... we Sould ask the men who think women arnt funny if they are married. Only then will you understand .

  • ive only met about 2 funny women

    lol and th ey werent THAT funny

  • In lieu of a rational explanation maybe you could have told a joke to make your point? Q: How does a blonde's brain cell die? A: Alone. Q: What do you call a black man riding a bike? A: A thief. Q: What do you call two black men riding a bike? A: Organized crime. Sexist and racist jokes are funny to me. Women need to throw off the yoke of political correctness! Humour shall be your reward!

  • It doesn't only have to do with women comedians. I find it rare to find a woman that is funny in life.

  • You're pulling the generalization card like everyone else. "You haven't met that ALL women are not funny." That's not the point he was making.

  • women arent funny

  • I'd hit that.

  • Women aren't funny.

  • ----the point---->

    ----your head-----

  • In this video: boring, unfunny, pseudo-intellectual hipster proving Hitchins’ point.

  • I don't really buy that hollywood as a sample population of women is misleading. Funny people should be most represented in Hollywood regardless of their gender. Even if you used youtube as a sample you would find the same results: women are generally not very funny and when they try to be they can be annoying. If Bridesmaids had an all-male cast it would be considered low-brow toilet humour but because it stars women it is being heralded as the greatest comedy of the decade...

  • @5teampunker That movie was funny. And it was done with an all male cast and that film is known as The Hangover.

  • whats up with the goofy aladdin music?

  • NOT FUNNY!

  • You're missing the point completely. His discussion of the female comedians was in response to his original argument. His first essay on the topic was a discussion as to why women in general are not funny.

    It's as if you think Hitchen's was belittling the ability of the female comedian's discussed to be funny and that's why he thinks women are not funny. He's actually saying the complete opposite...

  • That's not what he did, and you're missing the point. If you want to prove that women can be funny, start a wave and try to be funny yourself. You can't argue with simplle observations about the world we live in, and stating things the way they are, but you can try to change it if you want.

  • he had a life, im sure he know some women to have a bases other than hollywood for messuring this topic

  • at a good looking woman and also men are mostly ugly and it is a mystery what women see in men.

  • I know many women who are co workers, my wife, and her friends and I feel like a have to laugh when they are trying to be funny when it really is not funny. Dont get me wrong they do crack a funny and a gain and I really do laugh. I find female stand up comedians, again not all of them, think its funny to talk about 'their period' or 'PMT'. The funniest female comedian I know is Joe Brand. Its true what Hitchens says about looks and female comedians as I could not laugh as much

  • Cool story bro

  • Christopher hitchens makes a logical argument, you on the other hand just prove his point.

    back to the kitchen, cunt.

  • @Pwnageb0t No need to call her a cunt, what's the matter with you?

  • @Pwnageb0t

    You're an idiot. She was rebutting him, not trying to be funny.

    You know, it's fuckheads like you who make me feel ashamed to agree with certain ideas, because you pretend that you agree and understand, but all you really are is a sexist looking for excuses to hate women.

  • well that wasn't very funny.

  • would all those women comedians who are quite funny, please do a gig, get noticed go mainstream, if not, melissAbovE, would you kindly shut the fuck up. 

  • Melissa, you're so pretty. You also sound like that girl from Regular Show who has a crush on Rigby. And I approve of that.

  • She's so serious!

  • I definitely understand your point Melissa, but Christopher's argument for the evolutionary adeptness required in order for males to increase their chances of procreating is undebatable in my own opinion

  • this wasn't funny.. it wasn't supposed to be funny.. I know. I respect the nice lady in the video trying to make some kind of point..

    What Hitchen said is true.. all men know it (yes we are all pigs). We just don't tell it to nice ladies we wanna mate with (yes we are all pigs). Telling would be like shooting ourselfs in the foot and thats plain stupid.

  • zzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZz

    Women are not funny. Get over it.

    PS: I did not watch the whole video because zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ

  • you need to re watch or re read what he said/wrote

  • Oh come on guys. She's debating a point. Even Hitchens himself would appreciate a rational and reasonable response. All the same though, Hitchens was undoubtedly right. Every now and then I see a female comedian get a good line in, but more often than not it's the male comedians who dominate humour around the world.

  • Well, you helped prove Hitchens point you're about as funny as paint drying.

  • Surprise!!! This wasn't funny...

  • Lucy was one of the most successful women in commedy with a few different sitcom series. The writer for the Cosby show was a female and it had a mostly female cast with more daughters than sons, many commedy movies have a mostly female cast. I don't know why Hitchens thought women weren't funny often Hitchens is insightful but then no one is perfect.

  • @hydrolito It's because you are missing the point, and this proves his.

  • @hydrolito You need to read his actual essay. He never said that no women are funny like you seem to be arguing.

  • u don't have to do anything, but I made the error of thinking that, since you began this exchange, you had at least some desire to communicate. My bad, then.

  • 473 butthurt dudes cried themselves to sleep after watching this video.

  • Thank you for proving Hitchens' point! :)

  • she didn't film this in the kitchen...now THAT'S funny.

  • @kuntyfucstik

    Who told you that you could stop sucking your dogs dick? Get back in there, whore.

  • you're not funny or even intelligent....go make my dinner woman!:)

  • @hempsterism

    I love how you use the most unfunny and tired woman hating insult ever to try to tell someone ELSE that they aren't intelligent or funny.

    You must be really embarrassed.

    You should just go slit your wrists.

  • I don't think you listened to him.

  • This video proves Hitchens' point.

  • Ignorant cow

  • @thevikingmonkey

    You must be incredibly threatened by this woman. Are you even able to leave your house? I mean, she seems quite harmless, yet your fear is so palpable. You should see a doctor about your anxiety.

  • @TFYFWYA

    unlike we, the funny, funny Trolls of ManWorld, your shtick is tired and weak. We are hilarious, you are not. We are legion. We do not forget. We do not forgive. We are Dude-nymous. You should have expected us.

  • @kuntyfucstik

    I'm not a comedian and don't try to be, so telling me I'm not funny just sort of re-enforces a known fact.

    You, on the other hand, throw out 2 bit non-jokes and think it's edgy and funny. It's not and therefore you fail.

  • @TFYFWYA

    so you're just being bitchy and mean, huh? not even trolling? you're actually serious? wow. wot a way to waste an afternoon. lots of afternoons make a lifetime. I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person (I find almost eveyone is) so I'm hoping you'll try to join in the fun, cuz it's FUN and life is short and no-one here, who doesn't want to be, is gettin hurt. Happy trolling and best wishes for your feminist efforts...with you all the way on that one.

  • @kuntyfucstik

    I don't expect you to understand why I do what I do here on youtube. It doesn't matter to me if you do.

  • @TFYFWYA

    so what's the point? is your revolution merely private? - that's okay, by the way, but there's always the risk that a kind of self-reflexive fetishism is being nurtured...something, at least, to guard against if you don't already. BTW My father was a humble, gentle, deeply thougtful man who never warned me about you....he didn't need to...he married an incredibly forceful woman haha. Good luck and keep fighting the good fight fought fair and well.

  • @kuntyfucstik

    I'm not sure what in my responses indicated that I had any desire to answer your questions.

  • @TFYFWYA You're replying to a comment a week old and you think I'm threatened?

    Calm down girly, you're going to blow a tampon. It's the internet, calm down. Take your medicine and a nap.

  • @thevikingmonkey

    wow you ... didn't even understand what I wrote. Dumber than a rock.

  • @TFYFWYA Typical feminazi, all emotional outburst and no sense at all.

    Normally I'm anti-abortion but it should definitely be mandatory in your case. I hope they sew your ignorant c*nt shut.

    Have a nice life =D

  • @thevikingmonkey

    It's not an emotional outburst to note the fact that you didn't understand my post.

    You should learn to look up the meanings of words BEFORE you use them and embarrass yourself on the internet.

  • @thevikingmonkey A comments a week old what does that have to do with anything some people comment a year or more later if you don't want people to reply remove your post. You think everybody reads your particular message the same day?

  • i got somethign you could esasterbate 

  • @Vassild nub

  • @Tsteve08 mispells ftw ;P

  • Jesus Christ, women are allowed to call men anything they want, women say stuff like "All men are the same, they're all dogs", but as soon as a man points out the fact that women aren't funny, women get all butt-hurt. Women just aren't funny, get over it. When women generalize about men all the time and call us perverts and assholes, we usually just take it on the chin, so why can't women handle it when they're told that they are not funny?

  • I think betagamma hit the nail on the head ( and Canada Dan had an excellent point #2). The comedians Hitchens referred to were the exception not the rule .

  • well if you want to elevate this woman onto having the privilege of having sex with any men she wants then that would be sexist. and saying women, any woman has no shortage of men would be sexist also. because you are basing your opinion on their GENDER and thats cool. and there are plenty of women out there who have shortage of men, there are plenty of single women as well as single men, thats why there are datings sites, because there is a shortage on both sexes.

  • @edge2991

    you dont want to acknowledge the advantage that women have when it comes to attracting the opposite sex. Compare an average looking woman with an average looking man. you will realize that the average looking woman can get sex and date men a lot more easily than the other way round. Ever been to bars, the least attractive of women can get fit guys for sex, while there is much greater pressure on men to stand out and be good looking in order to take someone home.

  • @runtodahills i acknowledge both sexes have equal fair advantage DEPENDING ON THE STITUATION

  • @runtodahills if there was a average looking woman in a club full of ripped good looking dudes, trust me she wont be looked at. ;)

  • @edge2991

    Im glad you brought up dating sites. Even on dating sites, women have an advantage. An average looking woman will get her inbox flooded with responses from men and can get dates very easily. While an average looking man can will have much much fewer opportunities, I can assure you of that. I am guessing you are around 20. as you grow older you will realize how much easier it is for women.

  • @runtodahills i am 27, and you can demoralize me as much as you want sir, this the good old redwhitenblue,

  • @edge2991

    See how enthusistic you are about having a date this friday and the possiblity of 'getting laid'. Do you realize that a girl your age could get laid every day of the week on demand just my making a phone call to her male acquaintances in her school, university or workplace or a dozen guys she is talking to on the internet. while you have to wait for the date, take her out make effort and still youre not sure if it will happen because it will be her decision.

  • @runtodahills ummm i know this person sir. and she is older than me. due to our busy lifestyles we have an agreement. a very nice one indeed :)

  • @edge2991

    Women have no shortage of men. they are just very picky and go to dating sites because they want to increase their options. there is really no shortage of men for women, beleive me. I dont want to demoralize you or something. It just the way it is. I have seen women the size of a small car having no dearth of men they could have sex with. ever wondered why only men go to prostitutes but not women ?

  • this chick needs to get a bf

  • @edge2991

    what makes you think women have a shortage of men?

  • @runtodahills i didnt say WOMEN i said THIS CHICK NEEDS A BF, not WOMEN NEED A BF

  • @edge2991

    ok, so what makes you think this woman hasnt got a steady stream of goodlooking men she can date and have sex with? women, any woman has no shortage of men.

    Its only for men - "you need to get laid / get a gf"

  • @runtodahills you are right i do need to get laid, i have a date this coming friday thank you very much!:)

  • He said he was generalizing. He used qualifiers and was very clear about what he was saying and what he was not saying. Why dont you refute direct quotes from what he said rather than painting his argument with a broad--no pun intended--brush? You are creating a straw man argument which you can then easily demolish. Quote him directly then refute his statement.

  • Again, you are ignoring the bulk of the Hitchen's argument by simply contradicting him.

  • what a stupid and ignorant bitch.

  • You said something to the effect of "Hitchens based his argument on comedians", and from what I understand, he did the exact opposite. The "women that can't read" are among us...

  • @betagamma18 LOL. 

  • @betagamma18 Or at the very least, women who can't hear.

  • @betagamma18 I read the same article, and it seemed to me Hitchens based his argument on evolutionary biology, and sociobiology, a ferociously debated field if there ever was one.

  • Well you're "joke" at the start, "it boosts my views" was lame. You should read Hitchens research before claiming to know how big or small it is

  • Were this video funny, I may have actually watched all 55 seconds of it.

  • He's not basing his analysis on a small or remote sample. He's using said sample as an example to illustrate his point that takes on a consideration of women generally.

  • Without trying to be excessively crude, the only time I have ever laughed at a joke told to me by a woman is when I was trying to get into her vagina.

  • He was basing his observation on the women who have risen to be the funniest of the funny…

  • I think Hitchens has known more women than you have, better than you have too. The same can be said about men. Women can make each other laugh, and men will laugh at them simply to get laid, and so they comonly have a reason to believe they are funny, while Men are in the big leagues and many woman challenge us looking for reasons not to laugh, and we must crack them like a safe armed with only our humor. Notice Hitch couldnt help but use some humor in his argment, while your vid was humorless.

  • @MickyG4444 Did you catch the part where he smiled and said how it can be frustrating when "they just don't listen" and smiled? Did you see how he was talking about two different things at once, making a point while poking fun at the same time? Fucking hilarious.

  • Not funny.

  • My daughter is way wittier than I am. She always has our family in stitches, and has a deadpan style of delivering one-liners which she sure didn't inherit from me. Still perhaps Hitch is right that women don't have a NEED to be funny in the way that men do. I've always been jealous of the guys who could make girls laugh.

  • I don't find anyone funny. Go on and take a guess. Am I a boy or a girl?

  • I'm a taxi driver and pick up half-drunk women all the time, out with their friends and having fun. Trust me when I say they can be fucking hilarious and incredibly witty.

  • ".....Hitchens is making a generalization based on a small percentage of the women who proclaim to be comedians......." It would certainly be incorrect to conclude from viewing this video that women can't comprehend what they read or are inarticulate when trying to comment on it. The sample size would just be too small.

    Generally, guys try to be funny more than women & as a result are more successful at it. There are reasons for this. Get over it.

  • so you don't disagree with him. Well where are the female comedians them my dear?

    Women are superior to men in so many ways. Men are more violent, less able to communicate, less physically attractive. Why can't you give them this one obvious advantage. That, in general, men are far funnier than women. The best comedians are all men. This isn't saying men are better. I think they just feel the need to be funny from an early age. Or we are out of the evolutionary race, as Hitchens says.

  • @simonkdunne ---Hitchens makes the point that women correlate humor with intelligence. Clearly a lot of women feel threatened by the idea that men may have an edge when it comes to humor.

    Ssshhhh. Play dumb. Believe me, it'll pay off in the long run.

  • I think you missed what he was getting at. He isn't saying "I don't think Tina Fey (my stand in for "small sample of women in hollywood")s funny, so women aren't funny." He is saying something like, "There are some funny women, like Tina Fey, but in general being funny is not a common strength among women."

    To be perfectly honest, no one can point to anything but personal experience. And my experience leads me to agree with Hitch. I've known plenty of wonderful women, but few truly funny.

  • Shut up and make me a sandwich

  • Yeah, Christopher is careful not to generalize (except in the title of his essay, which is a pretty good attention getter). His actual argument is founded upon evolutionary adaptation, basically that women have less need to be funny. On the other hand, he is rather blunt about it.

  • This is why women aren't funny.

  • RIP. It's sad he died, he was one of the few not afraid of political corectness.

  • wow bitch you actually thought you could fuck with Hitchens? now thats some good female humor.

  • clearly she had just taken a statistics class, as per her psychology major.. oy the readability of human beings.. and yes... especially women.

  • Is it important if women are funny or not? I still try to make myself funny for women and I don't mind if they are not. I still like them. Honestly guys you have too much time on your hands...

  • Most of the girls and women that I know aren't funny, and when they try to be, I cringe.

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  • I'd say most women, AND most men aren't funny. Some are.

  • 1. Hitchens is not making a generalization about all women.

    2. Would you do anal?

    3. This video is not funny, therefore all women are not funny.

  • I think he said in his memoir that he started saying that women aren't funny for a bet. Unless I'm mistaken, he's just teasing all of the women (as well as the male bleeding hearts and pussy whipped) that have chosen to lend their ears to him. Successful troll is successful.

  • He seems like such an asshole

  • I think that there are lots of funny women out there, who are funny in a uniquely female way. My sister for instance is a total goof at times. I notice that many women are goofs around each other, and it can be hilarious to be around them.

  • wtf am i watching

  • you're not funny, and boring as well

    see that's funny

  • if you really want to disprove him, you should try to approach the issue with some HUMOR >,<

  • @zragisha To talk rationally you need to crack jokes? That would only prove that she is either funny or not funny, it would not provide any rational basis for or against the statement that women don't need to be funny.

  • im a woman. and i know that women aren't funny. it's not based on a small minority of women. it's virtually every woman i run into IRL as well as on TV

  • @NiangoChan I agree with you, but there are a lot of men that aren't exactly funny either. How many times have you laughed at Carrot Top, or Jimmy Kimmel? A large portion of "men's humor" isn't funny either, I'm a guy, but I don't find generic "fart jokes" funny in the least.

    Joke telling is masculine by nature, but it is independent of sex (which is what Hitchens was saying). Women can tell jokes: but when they do so, they are "playing a man's game".

  • @BlasphemyWerks0 you do know carrot top is known throught the comedy world as a hack and kimmel isn't a comedian have you ever heard of richard pryer or george carlin they are legends and have influenced great comics like louis ck, patrice oneal, and jim norton. Point being is we are funny women aren't unless they are old or ugly

  • @deathcoresucks1 I'm not sure if you actually read my comment, but you are agreeing with me, I was saying that Carrot Top is not funny. For every George Carlin there is a Carrot Top, that doesn't make men any more "unfunny" overall. Likewise a few unfunny jokes from some women does not allow for discounting of the entire sex from comedy, some women are genuinely funny.

  • did'nt he say, that being funny is not necessarily mean being intelligent ?!

  • Why men in these comments are so butthurt?

  • @derKuntz because we are funnier but women won't admit it

  • Your wrong.

  • I see where every woman come from when it comes to the gender topic on either subtopics. Aspects of inferiority is tough for any gender to take in. Like womans advantages to men is tough on us, like the overbearing gift of childbirth which is extremely overpowered btw.

    So i understand how you feel you need to find something to defend with, i get it.

    But Men and women are not the same and we have a decent selection of good and bad sides. which is uncompareble bcs we are diff for evolu reasons.

  • Most women are not funny.. That's it..

    Humor is part of the male method of seduction, not the girls..

    Girls have a sense of humor.. Otherwise they would never laugh at our jokes.. But they are bad at making people laugh "especially men"

    Every female comedian i see aren't funny at all.. But lot of women seem to find them funny.. I think it would be more accurate to say that most women aren't funny to men ^^

    (I know girls wont agree, you automatically tough.. this guy is sexist.)

    No i'm not..

  • @Mickr4 well considering Bridesmaids grossed $169,106,725 I think some people find them funny

  • @SuperImprovGal You didn't understood my comment...

  • @SuperImprovGal

    This is just a movie ;D

  • @Mickr4 I believe most men THINK they are funny, women simply laugh to fuel male ego.The thing is, humor is subjective. I think Tina Fey, Wanda Sykes, Sarah Silverman are funny females. However, some may disagree. The point is, it's ignorant of Hitchens to make a generalized statement on something which is so subjective.

  • @EffLabels When it's around 90%+ then we can start making generalization i think... As i said in my comment... Women can find other women funny... It's men that doesn't...

    Generalizing is risky and most of the time a bad idea but in this case we still wait to be proven wrong... Hitchens used this as a scientific psychological analysis not as a men vs women fighting ammo..

    Of course some women are funny...

    There's also women with beard...

  • @Mickr4 Just because there are more male comics, doesnt mean they are 'funny'

    If men dont find women funny, then you wouldnt have Lucille Ball, Tina Fey, Amy Poheler, Kristen Wiig,Roseanne Barr, Wanda Sykes, Sarah Silverman etc.. I mean, men pay to see these women. Most TV networks are run by men, thus these men must have found females funny because they financed them

  • @EffLabels It's not because u say so that it's the case ^^

    They dont finance those who are funny.. they finance those who bring back money XD Female comedian mostly have a female audience. As i said.. women find other women funny.. it's just harder for them to make men laugh.. No insult, no chauvinism... Im just saying what can be observed and have been proven by research polls n' stuff.

    Of course.. some women are funny.... But the percentage is less... I'm not doing a anti-women thing here.

  • @Mickr4 I am not saying you are anti-women at all, but Sarah Silverman actually has far more of a male audience then female. In-fact, it's mostly men who attend stand-up shows, not women. I would also beg to differ with Tina Fey, she most certainly has a predominantly male audience. I wouldn't describe 30 Rock as a 'female driven show'

  • @EffLabels Why am i not surprise that those women are quite attractive XDD Trust me.. the fact of being good looking help them in that way. Sad but look like it's the best way for having a male audience when ur a girl :(

  • @Mickr4 Of-course looks help. That goes without saying..and I dont think it's 'sad', i think it's a nice asset and empowering. But if those comedians were good-looking BUT un-funny, they would never work, despite being good-looking.Although, Roseanne Barr was quite fat and ugly and she had a hit show

  • @Mickr4

    Dudester here, seen plenty of hilarious (and attractive) women both in real life and comedy/cinema, thanks.

  • @Mickr4

    That's fucking retarded. Hitchens was joking when he wrote this, also you sound like your advocating eugenics or something stupid like that.

  • @pboisei That comment doesn't show much intelligence either XD

    Frustrated ? Haven't been breast feed ? ^^

    Get ur facts right, Hitchens was dead serious. In fact he is not the only one who said that and there's research papers u can read about it. Difference between male and female seduction patterns. A french paper so dunno if the translation is properly done.

    U simply seem to dont know much about the subject.

  • @Mickr4

    You can't just make broad generalizations based on some vague interpretation of evolutionary theory.

  • @pboisei So.. We can't affirm that most women want childrens ? And that most men are physically stronger than women..? etc. etc. That would be generalizing...

    I know this one can be not fully backed up by scientific studies and that off course women can be funny "there's school teaching humour" and that everything is not black and white.. Im just telling what have been observed.

    It's not bcs men are better in some domain and women in other that one is better than the other. no hate plz

  • @pboisei it's hardly a vague interpretation

  • @Mickr4 Men are funnier than women.And they're also better composers,better architects etc etc---And the reason for this IMO,is rooted in biology.MOST men do what they do to attract women. Also,women can "create life" inside their bodies----men cant!! So as a result,men are constantly trying to "Leave our mark"----To "Prove we were here". Women dont have that need ,because a woman can have a child and say"See what I did?" LOL A man cant do that---so we build bridges,write songs etc.

  • @brianbela ... Anti-men frustrated who haven't followed the discussion at all visibly.. Luckily you are a minority.

  • @Mickr4 Interesting point you make there, that yes, women do laugh amongst themselves and amuse each other....hmmmmn.....

  • U don't need to be funny. That's all he's saying.

  • Sounding like you didn't even listen to him..

    You're attractive as it stands. When was the last time you actually had to put extra effort into being funny to procure a date..?

  • Did you listen to him at all? Small minded much?

  • Where's my sandwhich?

    (Couldn't resist!)

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  • i wanted to listen to your rebuttal but after that bloody music for a minute I turned off

    please have the music lower or better yet not at all

  • It is an unfortunate and deceptively positive consequence of the feminist movement that women now seem to think they need to be more than just a pretty face. You really don't. While it is a nice bonus to discover that the pretty face is joined be a keen intellect it is not necessary. Without the pretty face we wouldn't bother to pay enough attention to learn that you can actually think for yourself.

  • Thank you for proving Chris' point.

  • Women aren't funny. The one reason men talk to women is women have nice naughty bits. The only time a woman makes me laugh is when I watch her getting beat up by her boyfriend. Now that's funny!

  • There's nothing funny about women. If they didn't have nice naughty bits no man would bother speaking with them. The only time a woman makes me laugh is when I watch her getting beat up by her boyfriend. That's funny!

  • The only time women are funny are when they are stupid like in this video. BURN.

  • I know funny women , i know hostlie violent women, i know calm really girly women .... but hey theres loads of men about with these traits also. Why should this even be a topic for discussion , we are all the same.

    Ps. Your a lovely person, dont waste your time on thinking about hitchens, youll find out why in about 15 years ...

  • not funny...