Why does everybody including the media keep saying they were convicted for shooting a drug smuggler...INCORRECT... they were convicted for lying about it , covering the evidence... disposing of the empty shells.. and filing a false report
.... those are the facts...... they we not convicted on the smugglers evidence.. they were convicted based on the facts
This is another spit in our faces by this Bush (thing) to piss us off! Pure evil! Why did this happen; this 3rd world, kangaroo court, Bush appointed henchmen, railroad job? Why does Bush kiss the asses of Mexican drug cartels? If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck; it's a duck.
Google: Bush Brownsville Texas satanic cult murders 1984. DEA video of Jeb and George trafficking cocaine in 1985. Bush Zapata Oil laundering drug money. Bush crime family. Into the wilderness. Poppy Bush 1960.
GEORGE ''EL PRESIDENTE'' BUSH has a mssg. to the family of Mr. Ramos, lets listen to Our beloved leader
" I want you to know your Racist Traitor Family Member is being tortured , raped and brutalized in Prison by my Orders. It gives me great satisfaction and joy to Know this. Mrs. Ramos i dont care bout you or your Son. In fact, i say FUCK HIM . I own His Body, heart and soul and i want him to feel as much Pain as humanly possible. I have Power over him and you, GET ON YOUR KNEES BITCH !
SamFisher4017, are you a drug smuggler planning on smuggle drugs into the US? Are you going to wear a T-shirt with pictures of Johhny Sutton on front and back as a bullet proof vest against law enforcement.If you are, I can understand why you say Johnny Sutton is a good man.
The world would have been a better place if the agents had killed him. Do you not know about all the drugs that this person has brought to this country? How about good ol Johnny lieing in court if you support johnny thats your opinion.... I hope that Americans wake up and take back this country from the mindless liberals in which you seem to support.
Ignore the lefty STUPID fucks. They've been eating their own shit now all their lives, from having their heads stuck permanently up their ASSES. FREE RAMOS AND COMPEAN NOW!!!!!
I heard someone predicted a second civil war in the USA. I hope it won't come true, but if it does, this perversion of justice against the border agents and the pro-illegal immigrant stance of the administration could be the triggers.
We don't a civil war, we need politicians in office who aren't scared to do what is right. We need to start putting guys into office who won't lie to us and aren't afraid to stand for Americans and tell the rest of the world to just fuck off.
I haven't heard anything out of them. It would be nice if more Americans in power would start standing up for themselves, their country, and their country's honest citizens instead of pulling something like this.
The US politicians behave apathetically towards the case because the American's are not standing strong enough to demand for justice.
Imagine what if all the police officers involved in shooting the unarmed man Sean Bell to death were sentenced to more than ten years in jail, do you think the other police officer's would take it? NO WAY! The might even hold a strike to protest it. But if the border agents hold a strike to protest, I don't think Bush and the Mexican government would care.
You're correct. Neither would care because it's like they don't really want the border patrol there in the first place. The big companies that require some jobs to be manual labor (where there's not any skilled labor required, and making the job automated would be costly) are loving this. They have a river of never ending cheap labor which = more profit for them. Take for instance the company that made kosher meat in Iowa I believe. You might have heard about it.
gchand7, I understand your rage and frustration over this perversion of justice that put the two border agents instead of the drug smuggler in jail. However, I disagree with your wish of violence. I would rather see that they be impeached and tried.
Border agents Compean and Ramos were wilfully and wrongfully charged under the United States Code Title 18 Section 924(c)(1)(a)(iii), which was enacted to punish criminals using firearms to commit crimes of violence or drug trafficking crimes. The statute was not enacted to punish law enforcement officers who have made procedural errors or misjudgment in carrying out their duties. Their convictions must be overturned to preserve the integrity of the judicial system.
No presidential candidate who keeps silent about the Compean and Ramos case deserves to be the next President.
No presidential candidate who sees nothing wrong with the cruel and unusual punishment imposed on the two border agents under the wrong statute of the law deserves to be the next President.
We want a wise and brave leader, not a coward, to be the next President of the United States of America.
one thing that i've noticed, the trial against the agents should never have taken place, the 11th Ammendment states that "The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State."
The deeper I look at America, the more disgusted I become with the emerging leadership. The bastards are leading us into third world status. I am truly ashamed to be an American.
Free Ramos, Compean, and Hernandez!!!! Our BP agents and sheriffs, or anyone in law enforcement, in particualr, do not deserve to be treated in such a unjust fashion. The ones who actually deserve to be in jail are none other than the prosecution, their scumbag leader Johnny Sutton, and that illegal alien drug smuggling bastard. Justice now!!!
Unjust? They violated the 4th and 11th amendments. The fact that he was a drug dealer was not revealed until after the incident. It may suck, but we can't let people get away with breaking laws based on the stigma of the "victim"
The 4th amendment forbids "unreasonable" searches and seizures. Searching a person and the van he drove that "had entered the US border illegally" was reasonable search and confiscating the drugs in the van was reasonable seizure.
When the person in the van resisted arrest, there was reasonable cause to believe that he was smuggling drugs in the van. The judgment of the agents from experience turned out to be correct.The criminal Davila was shot while committing the felony of drug smuggling. He was not shot based on a stigma.
The 11th amendment states "The Judicial power of the United States shall NOT be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commence or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or SUBJECTS OF ANY FOREIGN STATES." Obviously,the one who violated the 11 amendment were Davila and Johnny Sutton.
Of course there could have been illegal immigrant in the vain as well. But the agents did not shoot at the van. They shot at the man who had put up a fight then tried to escape.He was shot not from the back but at an angle from the side, which corroborated with the testimony that he was turning around with what appeared to be a gun.
Yes, the drug smuggle was on foot when he was shot. He was on foot trying to escape "after a scuffle". Agent Compean fired at him but missed. Agent Ramos arrived trying to help out and fired only one short and hit him.Ramos motive was to assist a fellow agent. He also reported Davila turning back with what appeared to be a gun in his hand.
Why does everybody including the media keep saying they were convicted for shooting a drug smuggler...INCORRECT... they were convicted for lying about it , covering the evidence... disposing of the empty shells.. and filing a false report
.... those are the facts...... they we not convicted on the smugglers evidence.. they were convicted based on the facts
jxqrto 1 year ago
Border Patrol agents are even dumber and more violent than normal pigs
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
God Bless you guys. I;m sorry you were wronged by the justice system. I have been following this for a long time now, and still been supporting you.
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Jorge
GeoForce 3 years ago
What a bunch of horse shit.
druha10304 3 years ago
I am glad that I am a Chinese Canadian living in Canada !
BobbytheCanadiankid 3 years ago
This is another spit in our faces by this Bush (thing) to piss us off! Pure evil! Why did this happen; this 3rd world, kangaroo court, Bush appointed henchmen, railroad job? Why does Bush kiss the asses of Mexican drug cartels? If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck; it's a duck.
Google: Bush Brownsville Texas satanic cult murders 1984. DEA video of Jeb and George trafficking cocaine in 1985. Bush Zapata Oil laundering drug money. Bush crime family. Into the wilderness. Poppy Bush 1960.
tonyqs2 3 years ago
I am glad that I am a Chinese Canadian living in Canada !
BobbytheCanadiankid 3 years ago
Free Ramos and Compean
protectingfreedoms 3 years ago
GEORGE ''EL PRESIDENTE'' BUSH has a mssg. to the family of Mr. Ramos, lets listen to Our beloved leader
" I want you to know your Racist Traitor Family Member is being tortured , raped and brutalized in Prison by my Orders. It gives me great satisfaction and joy to Know this. Mrs. Ramos i dont care bout you or your Son. In fact, i say FUCK HIM . I own His Body, heart and soul and i want him to feel as much Pain as humanly possible. I have Power over him and you, GET ON YOUR KNEES BITCH !
McCaintheLIBERAL 3 years ago
I am glad that I am a Chinese Canadian living in Canada !
BobbytheCanadiankid 3 years ago
SamFisher4017, are you a drug smuggler planning on smuggle drugs into the US? Are you going to wear a T-shirt with pictures of Johhny Sutton on front and back as a bullet proof vest against law enforcement.If you are, I can understand why you say Johnny Sutton is a good man.
simon6071 4 years ago
The world would have been a better place if the agents had killed him. Do you not know about all the drugs that this person has brought to this country? How about good ol Johnny lieing in court if you support johnny thats your opinion.... I hope that Americans wake up and take back this country from the mindless liberals in which you seem to support.
gchand7 4 years ago 2
Ignore the lefty STUPID fucks. They've been eating their own shit now all their lives, from having their heads stuck permanently up their ASSES. FREE RAMOS AND COMPEAN NOW!!!!!
AnBon74 4 years ago
I heard someone predicted a second civil war in the USA. I hope it won't come true, but if it does, this perversion of justice against the border agents and the pro-illegal immigrant stance of the administration could be the triggers.
simon6071 4 years ago
We don't a civil war, we need politicians in office who aren't scared to do what is right. We need to start putting guys into office who won't lie to us and aren't afraid to stand for Americans and tell the rest of the world to just fuck off.
km31545 3 years ago
To bad both McCain and Obama have been silent about the Ramos and Compean case.
simon6071 3 years ago
I haven't heard anything out of them. It would be nice if more Americans in power would start standing up for themselves, their country, and their country's honest citizens instead of pulling something like this.
km31545 3 years ago
The US politicians behave apathetically towards the case because the American's are not standing strong enough to demand for justice.
Imagine what if all the police officers involved in shooting the unarmed man Sean Bell to death were sentenced to more than ten years in jail, do you think the other police officer's would take it? NO WAY! The might even hold a strike to protest it. But if the border agents hold a strike to protest, I don't think Bush and the Mexican government would care.
simon6071 3 years ago
You're correct. Neither would care because it's like they don't really want the border patrol there in the first place. The big companies that require some jobs to be manual labor (where there's not any skilled labor required, and making the job automated would be costly) are loving this. They have a river of never ending cheap labor which = more profit for them. Take for instance the company that made kosher meat in Iowa I believe. You might have heard about it.
km31545 3 years ago
I just wish someone would shoot BUSH and SUTTON in the butt. These two don't need to reproduce and need to be banished from America.
gchand7 4 years ago
gchand7, I understand your rage and frustration over this perversion of justice that put the two border agents instead of the drug smuggler in jail. However, I disagree with your wish of violence. I would rather see that they be impeached and tried.
simon6071 4 years ago
That is the lady from the movie Border War
schmuckarelly 4 years ago
Border agents Compean and Ramos were wilfully and wrongfully charged under the United States Code Title 18 Section 924(c)(1)(a)(iii), which was enacted to punish criminals using firearms to commit crimes of violence or drug trafficking crimes. The statute was not enacted to punish law enforcement officers who have made procedural errors or misjudgment in carrying out their duties. Their convictions must be overturned to preserve the integrity of the judicial system.
simon6071 4 years ago
No presidential candidate who keeps silent about the Compean and Ramos case deserves to be the next President.
No presidential candidate who sees nothing wrong with the cruel and unusual punishment imposed on the two border agents under the wrong statute of the law deserves to be the next President.
We want a wise and brave leader, not a coward, to be the next President of the United States of America.
simon6071 4 years ago
the trail was illegal, possibly more illegal than the drug dealer in the US.
GhostRecon117 4 years ago
one thing that i've noticed, the trial against the agents should never have taken place, the 11th Ammendment states that "The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State."
GhostRecon117 4 years ago
The deeper I look at America, the more disgusted I become with the emerging leadership. The bastards are leading us into third world status. I am truly ashamed to be an American.
LongIslandEddie 4 years ago
FREE Ramos and Compean - FIRE JOHNNY SUTTON!!!
Robinhvidston 4 years ago
AMEN
kats9livesfive 4 years ago
Free Ramos, Compean, and Hernandez!!!! Our BP agents and sheriffs, or anyone in law enforcement, in particualr, do not deserve to be treated in such a unjust fashion. The ones who actually deserve to be in jail are none other than the prosecution, their scumbag leader Johnny Sutton, and that illegal alien drug smuggling bastard. Justice now!!!
MissHollywood23 4 years ago
Unjust? They violated the 4th and 11th amendments. The fact that he was a drug dealer was not revealed until after the incident. It may suck, but we can't let people get away with breaking laws based on the stigma of the "victim"
pissed7off 4 years ago
The 4th amendment forbids "unreasonable" searches and seizures. Searching a person and the van he drove that "had entered the US border illegally" was reasonable search and confiscating the drugs in the van was reasonable seizure.
simon6071 4 years ago
When the person in the van resisted arrest, there was reasonable cause to believe that he was smuggling drugs in the van. The judgment of the agents from experience turned out to be correct.The criminal Davila was shot while committing the felony of drug smuggling. He was not shot based on a stigma.
simon6071 4 years ago
The 11th amendment states "The Judicial power of the United States shall NOT be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commence or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or SUBJECTS OF ANY FOREIGN STATES." Obviously,the one who violated the 11 amendment were Davila and Johnny Sutton.
simon6071 4 years ago
From what I've been told, he was on foot when he was shot. Is what I've been told accurate? (Please note sources to support claims).
Construe (according to the dictionary) means: to deduce by inference or interpretation.
pissed7off 4 years ago
(Sorry to continue, but there are no edit buttons on youtube)
"When the person in the van resisted arrest, there was reasonable cause to believe that he was smuggling drugs in the van"
Isn't it also expected (geographically) that there could have been illegal immigrants in the van?
pissed7off 4 years ago
Of course there could have been illegal immigrant in the vain as well. But the agents did not shoot at the van. They shot at the man who had put up a fight then tried to escape.He was shot not from the back but at an angle from the side, which corroborated with the testimony that he was turning around with what appeared to be a gun.
simon6071 4 years ago
Yes, the drug smuggle was on foot when he was shot. He was on foot trying to escape "after a scuffle". Agent Compean fired at him but missed. Agent Ramos arrived trying to help out and fired only one short and hit him.Ramos motive was to assist a fellow agent. He also reported Davila turning back with what appeared to be a gun in his hand.
simon6071 4 years ago
Very good rally...touching piece. Free the agents...jail the drug dealer -- And the GD prosecutor.
hbomb696999 4 years ago 2