Late Night League Jan 26, 2012

[XoPticsz]

this was preety god i just wanna see u playing as: ezreal nocturne vayne talon or kog`mow

[Jegpwner]

what the hell, no hextech gunblade as jax at last?

[iCarb0n]

Anyone else having problems loading this video? I keep the video on for about 15 minutes before watching, and it doesn't load very far at all, 25 seconds or so further than it was before.

[123tiril]

where can i go to find your steam? i just been watching them on youtube after you post them

[fran13r]

omg you use abilities for like every freaking minion last hit D:!!

[jewelsftw]

goldfish actually have a 3-month memory. so you're worse than goldfish. :P

[MushromKingdomHeart]

Ciderhelm if I may I'd like to point something out that i noticed in your first game (don't have time to watch the rest). During the laning phase v.s. Teemo you should look at Teemo's items to see if he is AD or AP and let that information help dictate what items you get.

I understand the desire to pick up Wriggle's Lantern as fast as you can, but It probably would have been better to ether pick up Merc Treads if he's AP or Ninja Tabi if he's AD and not a full Wriggle's. Just a suggestion.

[TheRogueSapphire]

I don't think spellvamp is procced by the passive on Jax's ult, is it?

[ethanca22]

@TheRogueSapphire It does work with your ults passive.

[DarkMatter1962]

Ciderhelm, I'm convinced you were a Goldfish in a former life. You regularly state " I need X" Usually vision or some item, and then 2 minutes later port back and forget what you said you needed.

Example in game one. You kept saying you needed vision, and then went back dithered about your item choice and returned to lane with 700 gold and no wards at all (approx 34:30).

Also don't forget you can buy mana buns as well as health buns for lanes - esp if you already had wriggles for health.....

[Ciderhelm]

@DarkMatter1962 My wife is also convinced I am a goldfish, because I do forget everything about 2 minutes later than I say it.

[Hemshring]

@Ciderhelm lol

[ballshok]

Please play rumble, I bought him but suck with him

[ADR3NALINExi]

i have spare time but this is kinda pushing it.

[ThomasGhs]

Ty cider!!:D ty ty ty^^

[ChaosEn3]

I love you but you're horrible at Jax.

[ZuperFlax]

some constructive criticism - I don't think alot of people have the time to watch a whole game, definetely not 4 hrs. You should, (imo) make a little montage of some sort of games you play and show us the highlights. I know it's more effort, but you will attract more people to watch your plays. Im not hating :), just want to give my opinion in how you can grow bigger.

Love your stuff man. Best regards from Sweden

[hotshot3434]

@ZuperFlax but what saves you time takes a lot of time and effort on his part. it would take him over 5 hours to cut down 4 hours into small clips

[hitoallnoobs]

wow your a terrible jax, how did you even let the teemo get close to you.....

[dvem4e]

Ciderhelm can u pls tell me how you stream on youtube and then just upload it idk..... or how u record ....how do u do this !?

[Tonadron]

@dvem4e it´s a fucking recording of a stream it was posted by vazilin4ik for 35 mins

[jnssky]

@Ciderhelm Why? Why didnt you opt for HoN. I would love to watch some HoN vids from ya... Dont rage at me ppl, I like LoL as well...

[pasnew17]

@jnssky Well, it's really Cider's preference. If he likes LoL more than HoN, he should play LoL. The same thing could be said if it was the other way around. I'm not complaining though. I don't play HoN, so I'm glad I have the opportunity to see his gameplay in LoL, as well has his other videos.

[privateCOG]

i know this would be personal and all but what are the odds we would get pictures of the baby?? i know really odd.

[steinrichard]

1st game as solo top Jax [10:18]

2nd game as solo top Jax [1:04:25]

3rd game as jungle Olaf [2:04:18]

4th game as jungle Jax [2:30:11]

5th game as support Gragas [3:26:08]

6th game as jungle Jax [4:03:36]

[hotshot3434]

@steinrichard thanks mate

[dudedkdk]

is this a stream ?

[vazilin4ik]

@dudedkdk it is a recording of a stream

[pasnew17]

Awesome, thanks for replying Cider! Love your streams and videos; keep it up! And thanks so much for doing a DF Jax!

[pkSugarfree]

Later Cuder good stream today

[HuwPuwTheThird]

thanks for the stream cider, great as allways

[ShadowsLastCall]

^___^



[MrEvancorey]

jax*

[MrEvancorey]

how do you counter Jaz as a melee champion?

[Nenzo8989]

lol to that renekton build

[SCREAMProvidence]

what glyphs are best for jungling?

[SCREAMProvidence]

@SCREAMProvidence AD

[dayer90]

Cider, do you like Warwick jungle?

[daret9056]

25/3/7 lol. Jax too strong!!

[pasnew17]

By the way, does anyone know what runes and masteries Cider is using right now for Jax?

[citroenfav]

get hextec thirster lol

[citroenfav]

get trolls amount of lifesteal spell vamp

[Mindhawk]

Rylais? Be truely ridiculous.

[osamasmyhero]

HEX!!!



[MrClaive23]

trust me

[MrClaive23]

sheen

[pasnew17]

The enemy team isn't very good at working together. They're charging 1 by 1 into Cider's whole team.

[4rchf13nd]

yep for me but i think a lot of it is my own internet

[MyPsnBlackArtViper]

renek with hourglass ? now ive seen everything

[cryingwolf77]

This really laggy for anyone else?

[4rchf13nd]

please cider take a sheen just once it will do wonders for your burst :)

[MrClaive23]

i think they only enpowered jax with his change

[pasnew17]

epic escape cider!

[topdog2328]

what kind of build is the Teemo going for?

[MrClaive23]

i take it your loving jax now right?

[lessthantheUK]

that was epic cider :D

[MrClaive23]

ok i see your jungling with jax. i should try that

[pkSugarfree]

Playing Jax like Dyrus well done Ciderhelm ;)

[Mindhawk]

So far you're averaging a kill per minute.

[daret9056]

TEN ap jax too strong!

[demonkillerban]

nice DK gj man



[daret9056]

NINE. jesus

[daret9056]

holy.. make that 7 now

[daret9056]

really great start. 5 kills already

[ShadowsLastCall]

cider use w before you use your q and you wont have to rely on that w auto attack after the leap

[silencioseu]

since when youtube now has streaming?

[topdog2328]

that has been happening to me every game when i play ezreal, he just glides across the map not actually moving

[TuskehTehTroll]

Y'ello again Cider! o/ Kick some butt. how much have you played the new Jax?

[daret9056]

looks like a really good team comp.. i forsee blitz grab into galio ult while talon and corki beat on them.

[Mindhawk]

Didn't you just say you didn't like Olaf jungle setup on Jax?

[ShadowsLastCall]

You've got balls of steel this game

[daret9056]

never seen a more one-sided lol game. wow

[citroenfav]

gragas isnt that good without sustain imo

[Kutujames]

Ez was gliding...>_>

[schwegleryo]

smart casting , normally shift and the corresponding letter, just automattically cast the spell where your curser is

[citroenfav]

if its skill shot it will go to ur mouse if its a target then it will target whoever your mouse is hovered over

[citroenfav]

smartcasting is where you can change your buttons so that you dont have the target thing come up when you click you skill

[Dougyamen]

What is Smartcasting?



[PhunkieProdiG]

I mean the new one... Ive been viewing the previous, but this works well :P still prefer Own3Dtv and Twitch

[PhunkieProdiG]

This is my first time to see this new Live mode

[Dougyamen]

orly?



[ClusterDSA]

Ahh

[simongreve]

They are called Carry because if they get enough farm they can carry their team, usually due to dealing stupid amounts of damage.

[zev359]

OH that was a sexy shot on soroka!

[gombo12345]

whats this champion btw?

[ClusterDSA]

Why are some of the champions called carrys? Support and assassin and tank are obvious but why carry?

[exdakira]

@ClusterDSA cause they can carry a game with their dmg

[gombo12345]

hey you guys



[Varalen89]

also reduces damage taken

[Mindhawk]

Don't forget about the AS reduction from barrel. You might want to save it to use on Graves when he's autoattacking.

[citroenfav]

why dont you buy 1 pink so u can destroy sorakas ward and get some g back + destroy future wards

[citroenfav]

this tris is doing some horrible rocket jumps

[LeapingDodo]

hmm. where are you reading from? (the dota 2 thing) It isn't from this chat.

[citroenfav]

haha i lvoe how fireballazza has been spaming the chat for a while saying to paly with him even after he said he usually doesnt inv streamers. and not only did he get in hes laning with him

[MrWichomix]

dota is hard to play

[Frozenwinter75]

I'm probably not the first to say this, Cider, but your video's and info on this game are really helpful. Keep up the good work :D

[ShadowsLastCall]

btw i made some Mama Ciderhelm's World Famous Mac and Cheese was great :D

[metalcore42]

is the live stream unavailable in EU?

[ReplayableContent]

Question, why aren't you playing Dota 2 Ciderhelm?

[zev359]

Dammit watching this is going to cost me sleep

[ReplayableContent]

Live privileges are for Partners, right?

[Layezazn1]

This is pretty awesome to watch.

[bmxguy888]

were friends on lol and i have sent you a message on youtube, ive even played with you before

[ShadowsLastCall]

Alrighty i did that ^_^

[duncanrskinner]

am I able to add you in league? :D

[LeapingDodo]

awww. too bad. it is 12:10 PM here atm XD

dont you have kids at school/work or something?

[rujusu]

late morning here in sweden

[ReplayableContent]

Live privileges are for Partners right?

[ShadowsLastCall]

inv susanox :3

[bmxguy888]

err streamers sorry

[bmxguy888]

damnit cider lemme know next time you start bringing ougs in, ill log in next time

[LeapingDodo]

im on EUW. Cider, what server u on?

[zev359]

Excellent game cider, i'm really enjoying watching you play and listening to the commentary

[shinigami052]

I'll let other people get a chance to play tonight.

[ShadowsLastCall]

can you add me to the list? i pmed you

[LeapingDodo]

what server is cider playing?

[bmxguy888]

toomuchlol

[bmxguy888]

ahhhh

[citroenfav]

everyone was saying galio before. can you play him if hes good cuz i want to see what the fuss is about. are you beast galio or sumting sumting

[yackersPSN]

haha you played fine

[bmxguy888]

just got here how was he trolling besides being bad...

[citroenfav]

gg

[ShadowsLastCall]

gg



[simongreve]

gg

[gameproness]

That Morde is really b*tching hard, he needs to stop complaining and start working with the team. -.-

[ShadowsLastCall]

i think you can win



[pkSugarfree]

Ciderhelm the life saver ;)



[ShadowsLastCall]

oh sorry looked like it maybe from lag

[Bakudan666]

what are your thoughts on jax cider?I still dont know what to make of him since the remake

[ShadowsLastCall]

he bought double potion ~_~

[ShadowsLastCall]

that gold waste

lol

[littlehill12]

sona on his team derp

[4rchf13nd]

sheen is a good item for jax's dmg

[littlehill12]

whats your sona got goin haha, killomatic

[Mindhawk]

Morde's been raging all game. Now it's verging on when I report people for abusive language.

[yackersPSN]

blind since they have 2 sona's

[ShadowsLastCall]

is this draft or blind pick

[Mindhawk]

mallet?

[littlehill12]

use smite more haha

[yackersPSN]

TWITCH MUST DIE

[TechnicallyNotGuilty]

k im gonna go play a game and i'll watch more of the stream later

[schwegleryo]

that was katarina and those arent attacks so no

[ShadowsLastCall]

you need to use your smite lol

[yackersPSN]

infinite stun on katarina 

[simongreve]

Katarina, not caitlin :P

[simongreve]

Can Jax's E dodge Caitlins ult the knives I mean?

[yackersPSN]

@simongreve i dont believe so it dodges things classed as basic attacks (not sure how many have abilities such as this) but Gangplanks Q is dodged

[yackersPSN]

wasn't fast enough on the R proc :/ getting rageblade would be effective if that isnt what you're already planning

[schwegleryo]

idont think it affected your attack speed there

[schwegleryo]

depends on when u move

[yackersPSN]

sounded like you were going to say that

[yackersPSN]

were you going to say you're going to practice what lee sin is useful at (dropping ward and escaping)?

[planktoon90]

its mid day here..

im "sick" :]

[TechnicallyNotGuilty]

Oreo's + Cider's stream = a night well spent

[bobspops]

which game is this?

[YumidaBeast]

gl cider heading to bed gn

[schwegleryo]

next to golems lol

[schwegleryo]

he unstealthed next to you

[schwegleryo]

easy

[yackersPSN]

either multiple screens or alt+tabing?

[TechnicallyNotGuilty]

@yackersPSN multi screen

[schwegleryo]

u can do wolves before

blue

[citroenfav]

has anyone ever told you how sexy you are cider. so happy i found your channel <3

[Skjaldetjald]

how can you asnwer the comments, while you are playing in a game?

[yackersPSN]

ok ill be ready >:)

[yackersPSN]

:3

[citroenfav]

haha fair enough. even though angler jax is boss <3

[citroenfav]

why not temple jax :(

[Forsakenidiot]

Why didn't you go with temple jax skin?

[yackersPSN]

not to be selfish or pushy haha but when do you usually have subscriber games?

[dragoez2]

Twitch jungle- tell em to get Wards!!

[citroenfav]

why dont you play temple jax

[planktoon90]

hate the fact i cant jump forward, to where the game gets interesting

[citroenfav]

yackers he doesnt inv people to his streams but he does have subscribers games

[yackersPSN]

@citroenfav oh ok

[simongreve]

So I return, high on painkillers from the dentist, time to watch some LoL

[NeedsCitation]

ad kennen go

[SayHiToTheHag]

try an attack spd crit ap build XD

[ageeksperspective]

Do you prefer the Jax pre changes or the Jax now?

[citroenfav]

:D

[Nastreo]

There is another Ciderhelm in Nordic servers

[schwegleryo]

flash over ghost?

[phantomxstrike]

what do u think of nidalee good or ?

[citroenfav]

jungle jax?

[yackersPSN]

oh okay thats cool

[yackersPSN]

invite: fireballazza i have you added (:

[citroenfav]

no lol

[yackersPSN]

can you invite me please cider <3

[YumidaBeast]

i never see u go to the bathroom lol ...well hear u say ur gunna :)

[Skjaldetjald]

olaf jungle or top, sejuani jungle or top, avivia mid, ashe ad carry, support nunu. i approve that setup :)

[Mindhawk]

Ah caffeine free diet soda. I've found a cheaper alternative that tastes better. I call it water.

[yackersPSN]

hey cider, can i join you next game possibly? fireballazza is my LoL name

[schwegleryo]

missing so many bindings lol

[kevinbearne]

what do you think of the new champ ?

[schwegleryo]

ithink hes focused on the game

lol

[dragoez2]

is it time to do Dragon or are you gona leave it be??

[sinasfles]

He's so happy..

[yackersPSN]

can i join you next game possibly? :3

[Skjaldetjald]

what runes do you run for jungling?

[yackersPSN]

cider do you think i could play a game with you? :D ill pm name etc if you want

[citroenfav]

haha i thought you were trying to do a df vlad for ages

[YuriDSC]

Do you think Olaf is good for new junglers and if not which would you recommend ?

[Mindhawk]

That is what I like to call Singed Solo top vs. stupid people.

[citroenfav]

i dont like the sound of ziggs. been way to much ap lately. but he does look cool

[hookah777]

olaf is nice in jungle

[phantomxstrike]

play nidalee next ??

// what do u think of her?

[dragoez2]

NEVER CHASE SINGED!!! gj

[ArokhX]

LMAO

[Jericho0092]

wtf??



[Besyrr]

@SCREAMProvidence I am excited for Ziggs!

[SCREAMProvidence]

@Besyrr SAME he looks like a little crazy cat

[kevinbearne]

what do you think of the new champ ?



[SCREAMProvidence]

Are you planning on getting Hexplosive ziggs? :D

[YuriDSC]

Oh you got him o.O? my bad xD

[Besyrr]

Lol Ciderhelm and Cindered... Similar names :D

[YuriDSC]

When are you planing to get Lee?

[Jericho0092]

their vlad will mid, sivir and sona bot, and blitz and fate top



[Omagadin12]

BROLAF FTW!!!

[Nastreo]

First time watchin a live stream :D

[YuriDSC]

Is Olaf Your Fav Pick?

[JonobeNinja]

Coke Vanilla Zero!?!?!?!?

Man Canada doesn't get shit for pop.

[SCREAMProvidence]

@JonobeNinja CVZ sounds delicious 0.0

[o0MrBump0o2]

lock in n00b ;D

[dragoez2]

they are troling you in the select section.. imagine what would it be in the game...

[sameo1000]

Malphite tank is good if built right

[YuriDSC]

Olaf again o.O awesome xP was waiting for this =) best norm class jungler if you want to have fun ^_^

[Jericho0092]

what's with those leavers?

[ArunVevo]

shut up fags...xD...no champ is OP, they are all equal :p

[ArokhX]

Scarner is a pretty good jungler

[boysold1er]

be miss fortune (:

[dragoez2]

ya play Shaco- he is op xD

[Jericho0092]

a man's best friend is a brolaf!

[YumidaBeast]

@Jericho0092 lol

[SCREAMProvidence]

JUNGLE SHACO!

[Jericho0092]

:DD

[dragoez2]

my team got 43/1 kat- try her xD/// nah go with what you want

[firewhisp1]

Would love if you played Kennen some time. Dont have to, just a suggestion. :) Do what you want breh.

[sameo1000]

Malphite!

[YumidaBeast]

jungle noct ^^

[massstigma]

Galio

[YumidaBeast]

do noct! :D

[Jericho0092]

go jungle olaf

[SCREAMProvidence]

iS ROMULUS WATCHING 0.0

[Belerophus]

play Fizz :)

[gumburgobek]

gogo rumble



[Jericho0092]

play olaf

[Belerophus]

wow Cider, kudos to your friends :P. Got you carried like a small baby :D

[massstigma]

Go Go Galio

[Devil717]

rumble did terrible job not getting survi at the end, that's why they lost

[littlehill12]

ahh super wtf got it thanks haha

[CaiusTSR]

Exciting game. Very back and forth.

[littlehill12]

ahh super wtf got it thanks haha

[MrWichomix]

Guinsoo's Rageblade is useful

[Kronikwookie]

ok go add sciophile nao.

[YumidaBeast]

LOVE how u guys turned that game around xD gz cider :) rumble was a pain in the bum >:(

[alexmkul]

yeah)

[ardee2001]

cant believe you won

[alexmkul]

yeah)

[Devil717]

nice, gg

[Devil717]

nice, gg

[Jericho0092]

geegeee



[Kronikwookie]

see how important it is to focus? such a game changer

[MrWichomix]

Guinsoo's Rageblade is useful

[CaiusTSR]

Exciting game. Very back and forth.

[CaiusTSR]

Exciting game.

[MrWichomix]

plez buy a Guinsoo's Rageblade is u can

[MrWichomix]

see trinity force is good

[Jericho0092]

is this ranked or normal?

[SCREAMProvidence]

@Jericho0092 normal draft

[Varalen89]

nooooo, you shoulda bought the pickaxe and got a gunblade!

[littlehill12]

what's corkis build this game?

[aup299]

i thought it was my pc

[LeMoNPoWaH]

its lags...

[phantomxstrike]

much better with the ult that team fight

[Devil717]

You're suffering from lack of tank

[phantomxstrike]

ult right after ur leap in



[wilcuss]

You playing at same times during weekends? Would love to play with you some day, but being GMT+1, this is during the day for me. :)

[phantomxstrike]

ur still hitting ur ult late

[Besyrr]

nevermind Xin is there...

[MrWichomix]

Guinsoo's Rageblade buy it



[Besyrr]

Don't forget you can tele bot :D It is pushing!!

[MrWichomix]

Guinsoo's Rageblade is helpful

[Devil717]

core mid build imo should be wriggle's, hextech revolver and guindoo's rageblade

[citroenfav]

yea if i build trin i get the sheen then finish later cuz imp its not that great of an item on its own so early and at that cost.

[phantomxstrike]

yea might be nice to have some game where u get fed as jax for ur dont feed :) lol jk

[littlehill12]

haha play jungle rammus

[massstigma]

Galio Plz

[Devil717]

i also think triforce that early is a bad idea

[massstigma]

I get sheen ealier and finish trin late game

[Jericho0092]

top has 2 towers left

[Jericho0092]

push bot

[Besyrr]

Now you're getting good fights :D

[Mindhawk]

The most useful part of triforce for Jax is Sheen. If you buil triforce first (which I personally think is a bad plan) try building sheen first.

[Besyrr]

You could try teleporting bot and pushing it

[Jericho0092]

backdoor bot

[100yuxi]

wow no offense but ur failing terribly this game

[Devil717]

Also there's trick when harrasing, after lvl 6, you wait for 3rd atack to get bonus dmg, then jump and use W

[OmgOrgasmiko]

i cant listen your teammates enough :(

[YumidaBeast]

wow watching this game is pissing me off lol ....i have a head ache x.x

[SuperShiningSun]

audio's good

[themallee]

It's fine, maybe the ingame sounds are a bit to high?

[dragoez2]

the perfect baron steal...

[Deathrocker95]

ya there good

[MrKfadrat]

your team mates don't talk too much ;)

[100yuxi]

yea its good

[CaiusTSR]

Which is fine. You can't be god mode all the time and that lane was just undesirable.

[nactros]

how many subs do you need to make livestream on youtube?



[TechnicallyNotGuilty]

YEP! audio is great

[Jericho0092]

Yes, its good

[littlehill12]

yes, all good

[Besyrr]

I wanted to say that as well.. his boots weren't upgraded

So... has anyone seen Ziggs yet?

[Devil717]

Ryze isn't realy fed, he doesn't need so many items to do such dmg

[Varalen89]

Try using your E before you Q , it will make stunning easier.