Sami Zaatari VS Keith Thompson Debate: Is Christianity a religion of peace? 6/7

[luciddreamer241]

"Constantine corrupted and perverted Christianity more than he aided it. He was an ambitious and superstitious Emperor who murdered his own kindred (his wife and son) while promoting Christianity. He paganized Christianity while using it as a political tool to solidify his Empire."-Paganism Surviving in Christianity By Abram Herbert

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[luciddreamer241]

"The opening of the Fourth Century marks a new era in the process by which paganism poisoned Christianity. Constantine turned Christianity into a piece of political machinery." -Paganism Surviving in Christianity By Abram Herbert Lewis

[luciddreamer241]

Constantine wasnt a Christian

[MrKillacrash]

to god and kill all the evil of the planet.. i care not if this offends anyone or if they think im a murderer.. this is the battle of armagedon and i pray for every1 to find the true god lord and savior before this happens

[MrKillacrash]

what sami is doing is continuing to say that because of 1 rotten emperor of rome was rotten then all christians are and that is hog wash.....i dont do what other christans do i do what i feel in my heart is right and i mix that with what the bible teaches... further more if 1 rotten emperor of rome was a homosexual does that mean all christian are no it does not... it means that the 1 man had twisted views... and agian about the murder yes sami when the end of our time comes i will stand next

[ThingsThatVexMe]

Who cares what this guy Eddie Munster says. Please deport him.

[darkodamir]

Look at islamic states and tell who's killing people who don't want to convert, i don't know any christian state that does that!

[ThingsThatVexMe]

ATTACK OF EDDIE MUNSTER!!!

[Vikuulin]

Wow and Muhammed Killed all of those who didnt want Islam? He is pointing butter fingers at christianity.

[greywing81]

is sami throwing up the satanic hand sign??

[clairelesley1983]

Yes

[Decenium]

@greywing81

Why do you think Keith who uploaded this put Sami in that position?

Sad little butt hurt Christian tries to do whatever he can to get people on his side.

This is honestly FOX news type of shit.

[Shadowlooker12]

@Decenium So that butt hurt remark is just childlike, and the state of mind has to do with far more than making a logic decision about Sami's side of the debate. it can also flip over and display why you disagree with Keith's side of the debate. He could have not put Sami in that pose agreeable, but it's up to you to decide, not the pictures stated above.Look for the validity in the argument, one does not have to be Christian or Muslim to agree with either side, or be bias just because they are.

[Mkvine]

Sami should provide documented evidence that Constantine used certain verses in the bible for violence. Good Luck :)

[prince4king7]

@Mkvine well sami will not b able to do it!

[darpachief]

looooool >>>> Constantine a christian

[Ramohog]

Roman 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

[darpachief]

yep...and Christ's judgment is swift and righteous.

[rocker3223]

dude sami's very voice is quite annoying in itself

[Sephiros888]

Sami is just grasping at air, it seems he was completely at a loss of words and very angry after Keith debunked his first attack on the old testament. I feel sadness for Sami, and pray that he receives the light eventually. Public humiliation like this strengthens Christians but at the same time can have a backfire effect on the non believer, but the data is staring him in the face so... Good job Keith =D

[eccoodamo]

Keith, another way to also look at Luke 9

27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

John before he died had the vision of Kingdom of God and witnessed the things in Revelation. John saw the second coming of Christ!

If the Kingdom of God comes then they shouldn't taste death but the verse says that after they see, they will taste death, so it has to be a vision. We don't know if any other had this vision.

[eccoodamo]

Keith I love the way you got the last truth in at the end. LOL seriously they are pathetic.

[patrickandrebeine]

Constantine was not a Christian, Sami. You should study some history. Constantine fused pagan beliefs with Christian beliefs and therefore is rejected by any true Christian and the Bible itself. Taking him as an example is lame and is like saying that the Nazis show that all Buddhists and Hindus are for their actions because of the swastika being used.

[spicenut]

Amen LuxAuterna. As far as I'm concerned, Sami Zaatari had NOTHING to debate. It was perhaps his worst performance ever.

[spicenut]

I think he already is in his own little way.

[PhoenixChampion]

LOL...now that was humorous Spicenut...he is a crowd pleaser, definitely. Like I said before, he aims to satisfy his own belly...Islam, if you want to get technical, aim to wipe Israel and anyone who follows them off the face of the earth....Jesus does not say that will happen until His return, the End Times, The Day of the Lord. Everyone...be blessed...God ease...know the commandments of the Lord your God that you may live accordingly through Jesus...

~Champion

[spicenut]

Ladies and gentlemen, it is abundantly clear, that I as a Muslim have no idea how to win this debate because ladies and gentlemen, the apostles did teach peace and Jesus did teach peace but ladies and gentlement that is besides the point because ladies and gentlemen there will be killing in the end times which my own religion teaches so ladies and gentlemen I have refuted myself completely and there's nothing that Keith needs to say because I have done all the work for him.

[megawolf7]

Ha! Good one. Thumbs up!

[SpikeZantren]

The second Sami opens his mouth, I just have to roll my eyes.

[Decenium]

@SpikeZantren

That is because you are probably a Christian, thus are convinced that Sami is wrong and will not even listen to what he says.

It really says more about your state of mind then about Sami.

[Shadowlooker12]

@Decenium Go to part 5/7 and read the comments I've put, I'm not Christian, and can easily see that Sami is using assertions and his own claims. He had a better stance using the Old Testament as a basis for "why is there violence" the whole Constantine thing peace to murder aspect when in power, is idiotic, and I don't like to call people fools or anything but honestly, could you believe that, sit there, think about what he's saying, it's not logical debating, it's possible claims, not facts.

[Shadowlooker12]

@Decenium And it's only possible claims if your not following bible principality or understand it. If Christianity taught peace, that is all, anyone using it for anything else is wrong, period, you might use a bobby pin to pick a lock but the generalized object is for hair, so your usage of it is wrong, period. You can't pick and choose people whoa re not following the principles of it and say "Hey look see what they do" in that case all religions are not peaceful because they were all used>>

[Shadowlooker12]

@Decenium One way or another to kill or to deceive, gain followers etc, and then if your the type to agree and say "Hey all religions are bad" well people deceive and gain follower by other means, Atheism is a combatant of religious principles lacking a God or "superstition" or controlling aspect and yet still some of them are violent or have killed people, even some official and leader have been Atheist, so you cannot just make claims with no backing or historic accuracy.

[Shadowlooker12]

@Decenium to top it off, it's a historical fact that Constantine mixed Paganism with Christianity before claiming conversion to Christianity to please his rule and stance. This is why I think he issued the Edict of Milan in 313, which proclaimed religious tolerance of all religions throughout the empire. ALL, that includes Paganism, any magic based or idol worship which Christians would not tolerate at all and Jesus spoke against. So if he isn't even a true Christian, this is more irrelevant.

[Shadowlooker12]

@Decenium And you can see Sami did not even mention that Constantine may have not or is factual, not a Christian, because it ruins his argument. He claims to be well informed yet fails to mention a known fact? why is that? does he not believe even though it's proven, does he not mention it because it hurts his peace to murder claim or does he not know. This shows that Sami can be FOX news-ish as well, they fail to mention anything in opposition to their claims or he needs to research more.