abtw just ask rion gracie benny beat him in his garage in torrance ca.grappling. he was a master martial artist who would have mastered jtzz. in todats mma game
look guys i sparred with benny he was complete boxing- judo-karate- master kicker. & yes he could wrestle.if he were in mma in his prime make no mistake heads would fall
As much as I appreciate the kind words about Benny, a "real trained boxer" has little more than a puncher's chance (on average, assuming same weight division, etc) against a mixed-martial artist. While boxing plus grappling is a magic combination, boxing only (no matter how good your boxing is) will not be effective against a grappler.
First, I grew up in the town that Benny grew up in, in the SFV. Let me say that Benny is just one fuckin' bad ass mother fucker. In his prime, Benny could beat any of the paluckas you through at him. In fact, any real trained boxer can whip any of these brawling UFC fighters.
If UFC fighters had talent they be fighting for the WBF.
Why would they? Boxing is a dying sport, the popularity of the sport has delined massively over the last few years, whereas MMA is the fastest growing sport in the World.
(Hence the fact you hear the likes of Wayweather talking about fighting MMA)
I grew up training with Benny I know first hand the effectiveness of his system and exactly how boxing can be used in a fight but sir the fact is that the fights you see in today's ufc are much roes evolved and effective than boxing they are by no means brawling they are highly trained, skilled fighters and martial artists. Sir it really is better no joke
sorry to tell you sir that the grappling in his system was simlpy not there, it was elementry at best very robotic and on real way to transfer the movements to fighting I have trained with sensei my entire life and that part was a missing element. I am the first one of the urquidez system to study grappling now I have a black belt in brazilian jiu jitsu sorry to tell you but that is true. And sir I love sensei, I just want you to know the truth....
He is officially undefeated, and there are no fights he "clearly lost". There are certainly fights that Thai fanboys wish that he lost, but that's another story. See Wikipedia. The Thais were not in a different league. As you can see, Urquidez' answer to the Thai clinch was a judo throw. The Thai fighters had better knees and clinch work. The Jet was better at EVERYTHING else.
That being said, in MMA "Chuck and Tito" would beat him easily. Urquidez was only 140lbs.
@goddeloos what a retarded statment chuck & tito. dude its 35 years later in a differant sport & urquidez was a light WT.theres always dicks watching & compairing KICK BOXING- POINT KARATE- TO MMA , there all totally differant sports
he wasn,t undefeated he has a few no-contest fights against thais were he clearly lost im not taking anything from him he was way ahead of his time but thailand will always be in a different league
haha..benny was a great fighter..but come one, there is no way he can handle himslef in the UFC..i think u better do some research bud before u state ur opinion..UFC is MMA (mixed martial arts) a lot of the fighters are skilled in all fighting techiniques which includes grappling..benny would get killed
gotta be one of the best executed throws of all time, flawless
gd01902 1 year ago 3
and besides all that i said benny was super tough & could take a hard shot & keep coming maricano style
willieraye 1 year ago
abtw just ask rion gracie benny beat him in his garage in torrance ca.grappling. he was a master martial artist who would have mastered jtzz. in todats mma game
willieraye 1 year ago
look guys i sparred with benny he was complete boxing- judo-karate- master kicker. & yes he could wrestle.if he were in mma in his prime make no mistake heads would fall
willieraye 1 year ago
whoa
number0017 2 years ago
fuck - Benny was freakin' insane. He fucked that guy up with pure timing.
shue3303 2 years ago 2
I was looking for this fight ! somebody remember the name from the second fighter?
SoulTiger15 2 years ago
As much as I appreciate the kind words about Benny, a "real trained boxer" has little more than a puncher's chance (on average, assuming same weight division, etc) against a mixed-martial artist. While boxing plus grappling is a magic combination, boxing only (no matter how good your boxing is) will not be effective against a grappler.
goddeloos 4 years ago
@goddeloos
depends on the grappler depends on the boxer
mazilin2 1 year ago
First, I grew up in the town that Benny grew up in, in the SFV. Let me say that Benny is just one fuckin' bad ass mother fucker. In his prime, Benny could beat any of the paluckas you through at him. In fact, any real trained boxer can whip any of these brawling UFC fighters.
If UFC fighters had talent they be fighting for the WBF.
ElHuapango 4 years ago
Why would they? Boxing is a dying sport, the popularity of the sport has delined massively over the last few years, whereas MMA is the fastest growing sport in the World.
(Hence the fact you hear the likes of Wayweather talking about fighting MMA)
tillerbear 3 years ago
I grew up training with Benny I know first hand the effectiveness of his system and exactly how boxing can be used in a fight but sir the fact is that the fights you see in today's ufc are much roes evolved and effective than boxing they are by no means brawling they are highly trained, skilled fighters and martial artists. Sir it really is better no joke
senseilouie6 2 years ago
You're definately right.
54living 2 years ago
lol
miktimrob 2 years ago
who say the jet has no grappling,he knows judo and jiu jitsu.
shotokan723 4 years ago
benny knows judo,and it is grappling.
shotokan723 4 years ago
sorry to tell you sir that the grappling in his system was simlpy not there, it was elementry at best very robotic and on real way to transfer the movements to fighting I have trained with sensei my entire life and that part was a missing element. I am the first one of the urquidez system to study grappling now I have a black belt in brazilian jiu jitsu sorry to tell you but that is true. And sir I love sensei, I just want you to know the truth....
senseilouie6 2 years ago
undefeated in US kickboxing maybe but not full MT rules.
He lost that bout vs the thai but the US authorities " ruled " it a no contest .
KLguy133 4 years ago
He is officially undefeated, and there are no fights he "clearly lost". There are certainly fights that Thai fanboys wish that he lost, but that's another story. See Wikipedia. The Thais were not in a different league. As you can see, Urquidez' answer to the Thai clinch was a judo throw. The Thai fighters had better knees and clinch work. The Jet was better at EVERYTHING else.
That being said, in MMA "Chuck and Tito" would beat him easily. Urquidez was only 140lbs.
goddeloos 5 years ago
@goddeloos what a retarded statment chuck & tito. dude its 35 years later in a differant sport & urquidez was a light WT.theres always dicks watching & compairing KICK BOXING- POINT KARATE- TO MMA , there all totally differant sports
willieraye 1 year ago
@goddeloos Your comments are naught but an 'apple vs orange' comparison. Pointless.
aznkwonboa 1 year ago
he wasn,t undefeated he has a few no-contest fights against thais were he clearly lost im not taking anything from him he was way ahead of his time but thailand will always be in a different league
sboyle2 5 years ago
but if benny were to take part in MMA, he would naturally adapt to it and fight more agrressively himself.
he is undefated kickboxer. thats not somehting to disregard.
kingfbi 5 years ago
haha..benny was a great fighter..but come one, there is no way he can handle himslef in the UFC..i think u better do some research bud before u state ur opinion..UFC is MMA (mixed martial arts) a lot of the fighters are skilled in all fighting techiniques which includes grappling..benny would get killed
waikiki87 5 years ago
your wrong matey benny is a tough cookie and h will fight under any rules therefore he might not be as good at MMA but he wud still whup some ASS
MrJeetKune93 4 years ago
Its ashame this guy is'nt still fighting now he had 200 fights and NO losses. He would destroy the current UFC Guys (lidell, tito etc.)
tillerbear 5 years ago
LOL!!
Take your head out your ass.
B0l0joe 5 years ago
That's what happens when you are old school. You happen to be worth a damn. Red neck athletes don't interest me like they should I guess.
ozthepowerful 5 years ago
Get real. First of all Chuck and Tito are 205 lbs. and Benny has no grappling to his name.
presatito 5 years ago
What the fuck? Benny has a black belt in ju jitsu.
But yeah, the weight thing renders the question a bit pointless.
sifusocky 4 years ago