We found the Valley of Lemuel in IDAHO

[wubie87]

Your an idiot. Do your research next time before posting a video trying to discredit the BOM No evidence was found that the Book of Mormon was Solomon Spalding's original written works. All the hype about this is due to a bunch of people who testified that the Book Of Mormon was copied from his works, but when a court was held no evidence was was found and the accusers were left to state that there had to be a second manuscript of Solomons out there that was lost or something.

[utahpirateradio]

There is no doubt that Joseph Smith's novel, was not the first on this subject, both Ethan Smith and Solomon Spalding wrote very similar works a decade and more before Joseph Smith was even a twinkle in his fathers eye.

This valley of Lemuel is just more proof of how dogmatic some people are. Get a life!

[wubie87]

@utahpirateradio You're also an idiot. DO SOME research. How about you quote me anything written by Etahn Smith or Somomon Spalding that is published in the Book Of Mormon. Can you?

[utahpirateradio]

@wubie87, when I say Joseph's story isn't original, what I am saying is that Ethan Smith and Solomon Spaulding both had this same idea way before Joseph Smith. Joseph's fiction was made into a religion, just like scientology. Joseph Smith was the L. Ron Hubbard of his day.

[wubie87]

@utahpirateradio Joseph Smith claimed that The Book of Mormon was not written by him at all, but translated. You ignorantly state that it's mere fiction but have obviously not done the research into historicity of the Book Of Mormon. Have you actually ever read the book fully through?

[utahpirateradio]

@wubie87 Like I said, he was the L. Ron Hubbard of his day. L. Ron Hubbard also claimed his writings were of a divine and supernatural nature.

Joseph Smith's story is not unique, his is one of many of his day. His fictional work came behind many many others just like it.

Also, yes I have read the Book of Mormon cover to cover and I grew up LDS my entire life.

[awolLDSasap]

@utahpirateradio always a joy to watch again.

I believe FAIR brought up this corny lemuel stuff to soften the DNA blow.

[tritonops]

First of all, it's not a Canyon. It's a Valley and they are completely different. Second, every point this person made is ridiculous. It's not a matter of "Finding a random valley" it's a matter of following the path laid out in the BOM and finding exactly what is described. As for all these other "manuscripts", they might have been similar, but they were no where close to the same.

[slu2com]

I am just saying, rivers/streams that empty into a larger body of water is VERY common.

What would be uncommon, and SUBSTANTIAL is The city of Zarahemla.

This alleged huge city from the Book of Mormon times, in ancient America, with huge structures, huge temples, huge wars, huge farms, etc..

If they found Zarahemla, that would be something interesting.

Finding a stream somewhere is not impressive.

[MySweetSelf]

Mr. Omiolo,

What you just said is 1 of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul" Billy of Madison

[beeblequix]

omiolo1,

Blurting out "you'll never see the truth!!" doesn't make ur side true, it just turns it from an empirical argument 2 an emotional 1. Ur emotional reasons for "knowing" the BOM/Boa/D&C/etc. is "true" is a little childish, misguided, lazy & a bit arrogant. Do u use these feeling 2 "know" mathematics? Grammar? Yor prob: u begin w/the assumption that ur rite & all others r wrong. Then when the FARMers and FAIRies find something like a canyon(!)u buy into it w.out considering coincidence.

[chacabenchaca]

well you are just lucky that omiolo did not call you a "whore" for satan &the cause of antiMormonism, because that is what omiolo likes to do to those who attack Mormonism, so you are lucky that omiolo did not hit you with his potent "whore" calling shot. best of all after omiolo calls you a "whore" you are not allowed to mention it or omi runs to Youtube admin,cries& cries until your account is sanctioned.thats the way MORmONISM works!

thats THE light of THE gospel!

[omiolo1]

Matthew 13:13

"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. "

you will NEVER see the truth!!

[muncastro]

Aha! So, BOM is a PARABLE! A parable may be defined as follows: "A fICTIONAL story told to illustrate one or more moral points."

So there you have it . . . from the keyboard of omiolo1, no less. BOM is a work of FICTION, which was exactly the point that slu2com was trying to make. Praise the Heavenly Father! Looks like omiolo1 is coming around!

Remember: There is none so blind as he who will not see.

[slu2com]

True. I think it's funny all of the things that Mormons try to pass off as truth, and "the holy grail" of archeology.

Show me Zarahemla!

[divinegoddessartemis]

That's right, you will NEVER see the truth unless you have the *peep stones!*

[slu2com]

ROFL!!!

[MySweetSelf]

I hope I NEVER see what you see.

[testskriftene]

I look forward to backyardprofessor find all of the millions of bodies, steel swords and shields... he would be a millionaire..

[slu2com]

I'll be watching out for this amazing discovery too. =0

[testskriftene]

read solomon spalding and "view of the hebrews"...

God bless

[slu2com]

Ethan Smith, View of the Hebrews (I have that available for download at behindzioncurtain. com), and Solomon Spaulding "A Manuscript Written".. Both are preludes to Joseph's epic novel "The Book of Mormon". All 3 are 19th century religious fiction.