Juicebox's message

[wlmcgee]

There is nothing better than this video. The deal with it, the gloves still present.

Juicebox ♥

[Cscearcy]

Hes philosophically wrong. There is no way to 100% guess what your opponent is going to do. Just as Napoleon or Hitler made poor strategic decisions.The smart way to play is make high reward+low risk guesses. Footsies, Mixups, flowcharts are all guesses

Look at chess. There are a limited amount of opening moves that chess masters do, because they are the ones that are known to be strongest. They are the ones to minimize risks.

Does a chessmaster know exactly what his opponent is going to do? NO.

[pgame20]

@Cscearcy entire point invalidated when you used Hitler in the same sentence as Napoleon when talking about strategy.

[Cscearcy]

@pgame20 Both were military geniuses. Shut the fuck up. 

[RedBzerkr]

@Cscearcy Hitler was a Political leader not a military mind. He made no strategic guesses, he made wild demands of his generals. Like trying to take the Russian steppes in the dead of winter, which anyone with even a remedial understanding war or history would know is a fool's errand.

[mabans]

I get what he is saying. there is a large portion of the community that allow themselves the delusional thinking of being good just because of a single win. Sadly though that's the nature of the best now a days. Why bother really improving when you are just an anonymous asshole who doesn't really ever have to see you again. In arcade days people talked shit so in person you had to prove it, especially if it was a spot you went to. But it's different now, time to change, if they don't care y u?

[mgmamassian]

What's the song?

[timduncan69]

ahhahahaahah What a cry baby bitch.

Cool gloves bro.

[HughDawson]

This makes me sad :(

[nega90]

props to Juicebox for listening to NieR OST, he should get the tribute album

[countinhallways]

Best soundtrack.

[Natsirt789]

Best video on youtube.. seriously.. couldn't be any closer to the truth.

[vrobsizzle]

s/o's to NIER

[Splurgendii]

someone's salty.

[LaSwagga]

I agree completely with this.

[Psyclone0018]

the new era of fighting game are just dumbed down and new players or just bad players rather play the dumbed down version because its easier to win.

[TheJRo5e]

@JuiceboxAbel: As me being a Juri mainer i want to know how you think she should be played against the rest of the cast to be a serious threat against top tier chars.

[bearsss]

lisp + video game gloves = tons of chicks

[M4st3rM1nd1337]

I agree

[KinetiK001]

I agree that people don't have fundamentals anymore. I got 4th in a KoF tournament recently and I didn't do a single 3+ hit combo besides lk>rekka with Mature. I beat several people that had 40%+ hitconfirms and 100% hd combos because they were being predictable and jumping in like idiots. SF4 is not a terrible fighting game, but it's not the best for teaching you how to play. Every competitive player should start with ST.

The top 2 placers, however, were actually very good.

[minimajs91]

In street fighter you're suppose to win with fundamentals and footsies not 50/50 mixups you can't see and unblockables .. real talk juicebox

[ThaHornett]

Its not that serious if u lose do what's needed to not lose.

[SEALTEAMSPARTA]

@Ryogen

[darkhokage]

That's exactly how I feel, but I most of the time when that's the case it's because there was lag or for some reason an input didn't register.

[Ryogen]

Somebody tell that whiney bitch to shut the hell up.

[Gustave13]

I know who's better by who wins more often in the match, if no cheating was involved it's obvious who's better and even more who won

[CharlieFamFam]

I agree and appreciate this short rant. The trouble is, not everyone is going to think like that and the poor guy who sits down and tries desperately to figure out Mike Ross' strategy, could end up losing to a bunch of "random button presses" that he never anticipated. That's not a stab at Mike or anything, but the mere premise that anyone can change whatever they usually do on the fly, defeats the effort of actually trying to learn the opponent. Your better off learning the character instead.

[THETRUTHOWHY]

sf4 is random and a bad fighting game. I accept this and continue to play

[k4g7]

lol nerd rant

[ColorzBox]

Nigga went full retard

"You didn't win even though you win just not like the way I want you to win"

fucking hell man learn how to punish

[redx1xman]

Also I would like to point out the "consistently beating someone" argument is retarded in a tournament when it's 2 out of 3 matches. Just saying, this rant has alot of questionable excuses for your frustration in it. Still a fan, but that rose player did what worked and it worked, if that was a tourney you would already be eliminated, you need to approach the game different. Don't blame the opponent for winning, blame yourself for losing and fix it.

[theamazingidiot]

@redx1xman To defeat the netplay you must use the netplay. Create tactics for the netplay that are superior to you opponent's netplay tactics. You must use the tactics of the netplay until they are second nature to you and you use them even outside of the netplay. Only when you have significantly fucked your offline game, will you have truely mastered the netplay.

[MASTERSHAKE1557]

PJSalt Box

[BlacksonSamuel]

You as a player take the risk of encountering whoever else plays the game when you go online (Trolls, kids, new comers ect) If you don't like the game don't play it. Idk maybe some of his fans like listening to him complain about Street Fighter.

[Chris2086]

I know exactly where you're coming from, people are going to play devils advocates with ya. To me it's min/maxing to the extreme, people find the easiest simplest way to win. Then they perfect that to the point that it really becomes random when they win. Problem is that any good player would expose this in any extended set, plus it hurts the scene because people don't care about improving.

[redx1xman]

The problem with this is who decides what "the right way to play" is? Who are you to say that someone isn't playing the right way just because they don't play how you feel is the ideal way someone who puts in time should play? What you see as "random and pressing buttons" is what others view as playing outside the box. Why would I play how you want me to play just so you can read me like a book? I feel that people need to level themselves up and be prepared for "anything". Stop blaming others...

[BlacksonSamuel]

@redx1xman I agree 100%

[modumadman]

Yo, I'm not good, but I do my best. And because I'm not good, most of my wins are pretty lucky I'd say. I just try to have fun with the game, and winning is pretty darn fun. At least I know where I stand.

[Heat13009]

I don't understand why people think this is stupid. It's true that Capcom games are (for the most part) luck

"Yomi?", yeah, fuck you. That doesn't exist. It's an excuse to be random

[AllusiontoSafety]

Cool story Juice, but that's not how things work in today's community. If one can win by putting in the minimum effort doing so, then why should they care about "thinking" or "playing the right way"? A win is a win, haven't OGs been telling us that forever?

[JuiceboxAbel]

@AllusiontoSafety Yeah, you're right. I wish I could understand the "a win is a win" philosophy but I don't. I guess I'm too much of an idealist.

This is the main reason I'm playing KOF13, by the way. You can't play brainlessly. (No doubt this is one of the reasons it will not be popular)

[BlacksonSamuel]

@JuiceboxAbel That's one of the main reasons it wont be popular? Not because it's not appealing to the new age of gamers visually or open enough so that new comers can pick up the game and have fun with it? KOF13 is a great game that appeals to KOF fans and if they strayed away from the way that game works they would lose fans. They will never bring in new people if you don't change it up and offer them something new.

[theamazingidiot]

@BlacksonSamuel The majority of my (granted fairly small) scene has moved to KOF13, most of whom play the game in lieu of Marvel and SF4. None of them, myself included were people you would consider to be "KOF Fans". Just saying.

[WolfenFilms]

@AllusiontoSafety Doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning -Vin Diesel

[LandOfTheWind]

@WolfenFilms lmfao!!

[laxwithme]

@AllusiontoSafety

i'm not sure what "community" your talking about, but the fighting game community would agree with juice on this.

[mrwootwoot]

@AllusiontoSafety Because it doesnt lead to consistent wins. Otherwise...... where are all these random non-thinking scrubs placing at tourneys?

[Tidusafx]

:( one of my fav juri players making him self look stupid ><!!!!!!!!

[Psyclone0018]

That music fit the rant perfectly lol

[CalBro]

It's a game.

[neon6]

does this apply to viscant's performance at evo 2011

[NatsukeShift]

@neon6 Except Viscant knew everything about the game. IDK where people get this impression that one of the smartest players in the FGC doesn't know anything about MVC3.

[Scapegoat24]

WH- WHA- .....WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAR

[Gstainc]

aw man double post :(

[Gstainc]

Juri is why I hate street fighter 4.

[mickiemoemoe]

@Gstainc DIVE KICK FOR DAYS!!!! :P

[xWAxKarma]

lololol

[0ShinAkuma0]

hahahahahaha, I'm not sure if this was meant to be serious, but I laughed. :)

[klyzTV]

@0ShinAkuma0 it is . i saw the stream live

[InvaderFelix]

@0ShinAkuma0 I laughed too, the salt level was amazing... then I laughed again because someone else did. XD

[xWAxKarma]

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